WATERCOOL ANY GPU for $72!?!? | NZXT G12 Review

[@AirBearGaming]

NOTI GANG!!! Love you guys and hope you enjoyed! Stay awesome everyone!

[@Omarillo]

Interesting video broski

[@ImDembe]

You should have tried the AMD mounts they fit the holes closest to the DIE.Nice placement of the radiator...i can't because i have a aircooler but my card is under 60c load and close to silent with it very overclocked and near silent fancurve in Afterburner.

[@NichlasYT]

I have the Asus phoenix GeForce RTX 2060 it only has one big fan but do you think I'm still able to buy and install this without a problem or?...

[@ImDembe]

@@NichlasYT RTX2060 isnt listed as compatible so its a risk.

[@NichlasYT]

@@ImDembe I just really want to, because my GPU gets around 83 C when I play and it doesn't matter what game. So my room gets extremely hot extremely fast. xD

[@meltingzero3853]

"80°C to 47°C - We just dropped our temps in half almost!" Mister Kelvin would like to have a word with you.

[@adityaaurora9869]

I was actually planning on doing this when I first built my pc, good to see that someone else thought of spending less on parts to get increased performance. Good video as always bear! BTW: If you plan on doing this to your card but don't want to just have the naked PCB of your gpu you can use an acrylic backplate to cover it up while also adding some rgb flare if you choose.

[@Verzula]

How can you make an acrylic backplate? And with RGB?

[@Disonant]

I wanna see that shit

[@ClownMoney]

They sell those acrylic backplate on V1tech Google that and you will find it. I got a acrylic back plate rgb 1060

[@r32juan]

@@Verzula u buy them

[@loui828]

I had seen other videos but this one documents and explains how to get this to work on any card. Did this with my Vega 64 it went from 85 degrees to 40-45 on heavy load and idle temps are in the 20s! I did pair it with the kraken x62 tho. Thank you!!

[@Gr8dane85]

Thanks man, my 2070 itx build never gets hotter then 43 degrees now. Using Corsair H105.

[@Great.Username]

What case do you have? I have a Silverstone sg13 and am considering doing this with my blower 1080ti

[@Gr8dane85]

@@Great.Username i have the Fractal Design Era.

[@Great.Username]

@@Gr8dane85 ok thank you!

[@Eryk702]

What cpu bracket did you end up using? or did you have to modify anything? (In terms of just the liquid cooled GPU setup)

[@mother_chucker12]

@@Great.Username Did you do it? I'm thinking of doing it as well to turbo 1080ti

[@arthuradinolfi8185]

I did the same thing before I ended up doing a full custom loop

[@andersonkhotzecheng1084]

For RTX card u need to use AMD bracket

[@testosaurusrex3356]

No this is a short PCB, won´t work either

[@zephyrgaming9642]

@@testosaurusrex3356 this isnt true I've tried it and it works not perfectly but well enough with the AMD bracket

[@sanace2788]

@@testosaurusrex3356 it's work, I've tried on my 2060s using amd bracket, it fit perfectly

[@cub862001]

@@sanace2788 i have a 2060 super, still work?

[@sanace2788]

@@cub862001 it is

[@Brazi187]

Quick and “easy”. Nice vid bro, see u next video or stream!

[@ja001son]

Ive got one of these on the way for my 2080Ti, this video confirms I should be able to get it working. Big thanks, subbed.

[@dj4972]

You can use the AMD bracket on alot of the rtx cards for the g12, give it a try with your 2080 TI

[@motulautech4680]

Sir could u tell me which materials did you used?

[@jake20479]

my 1660ti XC Ultra (original air cooler) - 72Cmax temp before liquid metal 48C max after liquid metal +135 stable on core- comes out to 2130 +1250 on memory ::update accelero 3 cooler installed.. max temp of 45c. core stable at 2,145 and memory stable at +1,500. on all games and benchmarks. custom heatsinks were used that I salvaged from northbridges. I used thermal glue instead of pads.

[@furynotes]

I remember when I was 14 years old. I had two 7600gs cards. But I bought two zalman gpu coolers. So mad drilled into the pcb! Yes drill into the cards. Guess what. Well. both can boot. One had artifacts when running battlefield 2142. But the other. Completely worked! I tried to sli them up back 2006. Before trying them individually. Note: These were. XFX fanless cards. Just wanted to share that story. Considering the risky content involving drilling into things.

[@erickonassis5023]

I've been searching for 2 days for this exact video, as the Kracken 12 isn't made for the 2070. Thank you you for preventing early hair loss😂 *subbed*

[@EXPERIMENTONGOD]

Guys don't know if anybody noticed but the reason you need to cut the mounting brackets when putting the G12 on ZOTAC cards is because they use those "PoS" capacitors which are too tall and obstruct mounting bracket placement. Look at the Zotac 3080 PCB, same issue. Avoid those PoS cards if you want an easy time mounting a G12. Cards that use HQ "flat" capacitors don't have this problem (virtually every other AIB that's not Zotac).

[@elshizz]

Dope. Love the interaction with Dan the Man! Keep it up guys, 65k in no time

[@happyotakumanmike]

I love this, It simplifies the need to heavily regulate airflow in your case when you liquid cool even with an AIO as long as its both your cpu and gpu. If you have them both intaking you need a couple good exhausts, if you have the exhausting then you need a couple good intakes. if you run them intaking and exhausting then you need a little bit of intake to cool the air before it hits the exhausting rad. It becomes less about air pathway and regulation so much as just making sure that the radiator isn't sucking warm or hot temperature air and that its getting enough pressure, which is way easier. I just put a kraken X53 on my processor and next i have some spare cash I'm probably gonna put an M22 on my gpu cause I'm a little snooty about my parts

[@Georgecruz91]

I'm using a custom WC on my "old" 1060 for 3 years, it stays in 25-35 º C, in full load 45ºC in 20% oc the max is 60º C. Watercooler a GPU really worth.

[@howmahaga1]

Using this set up for a RTX 2070 (Palit) Running at 50C max on bf V with ultra settings. Was running at 85C on stock. OC is 140 Core and 750 Memory

[@cameronharvey4746]

I acutally really like what the bracket does visually to a card, especially when paired with an nzxt 120mm AIO. I think it looks cleaner and fits my white and black build better than the blower cooler shroud that i usually think is ugly. Makes the card take up less space in my micro atx case and looks a little cleaner when set up right.

[@nohjuan6355]

Does it fit? The nzxt page of g12 doesnt list the 120mm (m22) as compatible. I had an M22, but swapped it to the x72 because the m22's pump is prone to fail

[@cameronharvey4746]

@@nohjuan6355 I'm actually not sure the m22 fits but I'm probably going to go with the 140mm pump anyways. They are nearly the same price but it's dodgy right now. A lot of nzxt products are sold out in december.

[@nohjuan6355]

@@cameronharvey4746 hmm, alright. Well I live outside the US, and although NZXT comes here late, the demand is meh, so supply even in december is fine. I'm planning to do vertical gpu + aio cooling anyway. Thanks for the info

[@erickrayos]

I went with air cooling used Raijintek Morpheus II and it fits my RTX 2070 using the AMD mounting point. GPU core temp goes max of 61C at 23C ambient temp. on my normal 21C ambient temp it stays around 50C or lower. I've seen this NZXT bracket work w/o cutting on reddit, they used the same AMD bracket instead of Nvidia's.

[@alvaroaugustomeridio]

Hi! Did you add any disipators on your mosfets, RAM memory and capacitors? Would you recomend it? Any temp readings on them running full throttle?

[@timmordragon1847]

For Aesthetics just get a GPU Backplate form 'V1 Tech' or similar Vendor.

[@WatchMysh]

Thanks for the review! I just linked to it under my latest review of the G12 along with the Fractal Celsius S24!

[@deeppurplefan]

They recommend these things all the time over on the EVGA forums, they are directly compatible with the 2080 Ti, 2080S, 2080 and 2070S. Nice job on the setup here, push pull fans are key on a 120mm rad.

[@ajk6656]

It's amazing on my GTX 1080, wish I learned about it sooner. I'm moving to the NXZT H1 case for the 3000 series GPUs though so I won't be able to use it :( Got very used to running intensive games at 40% fan speed and not going above 50C

[@porschet5898]

Is it compatible with the 2060S strix?

[@genxgamerdad141]

Was using this on my 1080GTX. Bought a 2080 Super, it does by using the AMD brackets. Asus 2080 Super OC never goes above 50C now and stays on max boost which is over 2GHz.

[@benjaminingold7980]

Im planning to install it on my 1080 like you did. Is there any additional equiment i need or anything I need to pay attention to?

[@miltonduarte889]

Surprised that you upped your knowledge on PC parts. I'm happy for you man.

[@EcksGamer]

Nice video but i tend to wonder if this would work for something like a 3060/3060 Ti as well since NZXT hasn't really updated its compatibility with its GPU's.

[@sohampramanik561]

True I am also searching some video regarding this, cause I have a 3070 ti, so do not know if this method will be compatible

[@me_and_me_]

not a good option if you can only watercool the GPU, because when installing it on the VGA, you'll realize that the brackets won't allow you to install a sepparated heatsink for the VRAM, but only the VRM's if you are capable of installing it

[@chazpr]

What about the vram heat dissipation? I saw that you took out the thermal pads and your vram chips are going to overheat 😳

[@notunder8738]

Exactly my thoughts, at least a heat spreader should be applied

[@cipero9246]

at 3:15 u can see some small copper heatsinks to the right, he may have used those

[@restive81]

I changed EVGA 1080 ti FTW3 Hybrid to Kraken X53 + G12 + Noctua NF-B9 GPU max temps dropped 14-17 C, but what's more important noise level is much more pleasant and case temps all in all dropped a few degrees Celsius. P.s. backplate of this original Hybrid EVGA 1080ti FTW3 fits perfectly with this new NZXT setup.

[@billdawgtv2348]

Love the vid liked and subscribed I would one day love to water cool my nvidia rtx 2070 cause it constantly runs on about 82-75 degrees when playing games

[@Loooooooooooooooool]

I've looked into using this on my Zotac 1070ti mini. I've found that its incompatible because the VRM is before the GPU so the fan would not cool them at all.

[@manarallego3745]

Those slight mods to "make it work" are so much fun :D I don't have enough time (and will) yet to do full custom mods, but stuff like this is really enjoyable.

[@NK-qn6pq]

I watercooled my RTX 2070 (the exact same one!) blower with Cooler Master MasterLiquid Lite 240....WITHOUT a bracket. I used a combination of Intel 1151 and 2066 mounting screws and the Intel mounting bracket(I did not have to resort to zip ties). Temps to 40s from 80s.

[@992BlackShadow]

Pretty sure the amd brackets fits the rtx series cards

[@thatguy3836]

Justice League217 confirmed. Used it on my rtx 2080. No cutting or any of that bullshit

[@jacobplyler3470]

I need to readjust my cooler I think. I get 27-32 C idle depending on ambient temp, but my load Temps can get around 65 C, but will stay closer to 60. Using a Thermaltake 3.0 120mm with an RTX 2070 Super.

[@blackasthesky]

"We dropped our temperatures in half" *Cries in Gamer's Nexus*

[@thatonezeldafan5275]

I dont understand

[@blackasthesky]

@@thatonezeldafan5275 in the video he used Celsius scale, which does start at -273°C absolute zero. The 0°C is just an arbitrary point on the scale someone decided is a good 0° point for daily use (freezing point of water, of course). So when you go from 70°C to 35°C, you did not really drop temperature in half.

[@thatonezeldafan5275]

@@blackastheskyOh lol

[@PeterPauls]

For RTX 2080 it is working perfectly without any modification.

[@AirBearGaming]

What them temps like?

[@PeterPauls]

@@AirBearGaming I'm using a Corsair H55 120mm AiO and in Idle it's 28 °C and under heavy load (after 2 hours of gaming) it's 62 °C without OC. I'm using a NZXT Manta mini ITX Case so I really needed that mod, because the double-fan cooler choked in that case, the GPU was 85-90 °C under load, so it helped a lot!

[@lulufolds]

@@PeterPauls I got mines full load at 72c, no water cooling, just good airflow and using a aggressive

[@Laikmuay]

Do you have to remove the thermal pads on the pcb or just leave them on? I have a 2080 super I was thinking on trying with the g12

[@PeterPauls]

Tuf I sold the card, I kept the original cooler. I had to sell it because I had financial problems. There was no problem to sell it. I said the guy who bought it, that it was disassebled. I gave him the warrenty letter too. The shop where I usually buy my videocards, has no problem if the costumer removes the cooler. You just have to put it back properly.

[@HerbOldenburg]

Your fearless mod is great - thanks for sharing

[@tonkatoytruck]

So what are the VRM temperatures and what is cooling them now that you removed the thermal tape and cooling plate?

[@burntwaffles640]

Love your vids keep it up Air Bear!

[@DAZEOFFICIAL]

I'm running a Gigabyte Windforce OC 3X 8G RTX 2070 SUPER and AMD brackets were the closest to fitting perfectly but I still had to cut the brackets in order to fit properly. I was also able to retain my original backplate.

[@jaysin1982stud]

Very innovative and smart. I think most people that are watching your videos are going to be more prone to trying to save money opposed to cosmetics. As far as I'm concerned your PC looks dope and is unique. Thank you for another awesome video, keep up the hard work.

[@reinaldo1504]

how about the vrm, do we need another heatsink for them ? or we can just leave them be

[@hadouken008]

I got a 1080 ti gaming x, with this setup and i have just the fan that came with the nzxt, blowing on the vrm, the card is overclocked, its barely warm to the touch on full load.

[@GunsNScoop]

Heatsink if nothing else to cool

[@lipe1393]

2:47 Man, I laugh at this! You're a genius sir!

[@jackbaxter443]

Question... Why have they used a fan to cool the RAM? Why not have a aluminium plate that covers the whole GPU? Using heat pads on the RAM to make contact with the plate and the NZXT cooler directly on the plate?

[@diegobahena1274]

Woah!! was thinking of getting a 240mm rad and a waterblock for my 5700XT and kinda make a frankenstein; but it seems this kit with a 120mm rad is enough. On idle it hits 45 deg C, under 100% load it reaches 75!!

[@WhyyElev8]

That is normal temps for stock cooling

[@oneplus_one1]

Criticism: Can you please link everything? And maybe put you're PC list, too. Either the list or the link to PC Part Picker. Also, would it be possible to vertically mount it so the ugly backplate wouldn't be seen?

[@Darkaleexz]

Geez that so much work to do! Thumbs up for you

[@pnizzlefoshizzle9529]

Wow just what I was looking for! My 2060 blower style gpu is only 7 months old and I don't want to upgrade yet. It's fine for MMOS, 65C, but for COD it goes up to 85C. I'm definitely going to try this. Thank you!

[@eatyourcarbs]

Did you do it how was it ?

[@pnizzlefoshizzle9529]

@@eatyourcarbs no I have not not really using computer anymore

[@alexsyandis3794]

Where did you plug the mini fan that came with the next g12?

[@RoundHouseSlap]

Did this to my MSI 2080S Ventus XS OC with evga clc 240mm didn't have to drill a thing. Thank you.

[@chino852456]

This was pretty much awesome to watch... make more custom job videos!

[@farka7789]

The Miners join the chat

[@burntwaffles640]

Nice job on 60k!

[@spnxie]

You deserve more man!

[@wrippley103]

I think it looks badass as it is but if you bought a gpu riser and turned the card 45 deg and purchased an aio with LCD, you could still add some bling.

[@Paladin_Zero]

can you do this for a 3090? I'm kinda scared to try this on a $1800 gpu.

[@laxmannate07]

Set RGB to blue for increased cooling. Red for more fps

[@robertthomson1994]

i was literally thinking of getting this exact thing for my gpu instead of doing a full loop even a cheaper loop. only thing is i dont think itll fit a rx 580. i kinda want to try though cuz i play pubg a bit now and anytime i run it it ramps the thing up like crazy. around 60c. id still like to keep it as cool as possible

[@gonzomonzo1000]

How did it go ? Did it fit I want to try with RX 590

[@ICCUWANSIUT]

60c is perfectly fine... my RX 580 hits 81c and it’s still running a year after.

[@ZeldaLord1]

Can it fit?

[@awesomstuff]

Nice Mod at a superb-price. Gonna try to make this on my RTX 2070 Gaming Z happen. Thanks.

[@stovkysaint-albord3294]

Did you ever try it ?

[@khaloof.m]

Dude how do you still have 60k subs ? Your vids Are so good

[@AirBearGaming]

Dunno bro, but were on the way. Thanks for the support!

[@khaloof.m]

AIR BEAR no problem keep them PC vids coming :)

[@COddietsch]

Well done! Im on my first build and not quite there yet. I dont have the confidence to do that but would sure love too.

[@tofu.delivery.]

I'm worried about the cooling for the vram though?

[@filonin2]

Add some stick on ram coolers.

[@minepose98]

The fan is enough, but you can always get some mini heatsinks for them.

[@johnpaulbacon8320]

Thanks for this well done and informative video

[@PositivePressureYT]

if they can get an aesthetically pleasing model going, then this shit's gonna be selling f a s t

[@bombagent6774]

amazing tips and test sir !!!

[@Fromchaostheory]

Have you tried this with the 3070?

[@orbids]

You are sooooooooooooo underated

[@astnla]

so i’ve been reading, i have a nvidia gtx 1070 fe card, and a lot of people are saying that you should transfer the heat sink pads, or the thermal tape? whatever it is, the yellow cushiony thing on the board of the gpu before mounting the g12. i guess they say that the fan isn’t gonna keep it cool and without the pads cooling the vrm or vram, it could kill your gpu. is this true?

[@Gamen4Bros]

this is sick!

[@yo_its_gingey5329]

I just used the AMD GPU mounting brackets on my 3060 12gb and it works perfectly

[@solidwire]

Really sweet job and you proved a theory I had... This card runs cool stock and when OCing on air... When OCing It hits a wall with voltage which is not adjustable. Since voltage has a cap on it's control I had a theory... If water cooled then the voltage used to run those fans would be pushed to the chip giving it a boost... How much a boost??? 1%, 10%. What are the IRL overall average FPS improvements? Any chance you might do a video and run those for us? This is definitely something no one else is doing... Yet...

[@janbarta6562]

did this on my rtx2080 founders edition with kraken x53 temps before : idle- 44c , full load- 85c after modification : idle- 29c , full load- 48c . works great

[@diktiw9172]

Thanks alot for the idea. Now I can watercool my vega 64.

[@edy6722]

I used to get like 40C ambient and like 80C on my 2060S with it's annoyingly loud blower type cooler. Ever since I installed this, ambient temps are at the 20s and even at max OC and max settings on a game like Cyberpunk, i get 47C. Insaaaane performance upgrade. It voids your warranty and very very risky if you have no experience. So tread carefully.

[@gonzoguy2424]

Just wondering, are the VRMs better or worse cooled now that they just have a fan blowing on them vs. the contact with the large heat sink that used to be in contact with them?

[@AirBearGaming]

I was worried about this as well, bought copper mosfets just incase. VRM temps are cooler than stock when air cooled. Also air cooled beat the mosfets. I believe Jays2cents had the same results to the vrms when he did this to a 1080ti but he was on a benchmark setup. I did all testing in a coolermaster h500p mesh, great airflow case. Thanks for the great question!

[@runninggames771]

@@AirBearGaming MOSFETs are not heatsinks, MOSFET stands for metal-oxide-semiconductor field-effect transistor. You will have hotter vrm's and memory chips if they do not have a heatsink on them.

[@runninggames771]

@Cut Comedy Just buy those little vrm and memory heatsinks and use thermal tape or thermal glue. There are guides on how to do this, search up vrm cooling.

[@headerahelix]

@@runninggames771 lol was also thinking wtf is he talking about

[@MrSirrr13]

if you have a blower cars i recommend it but my strix 2070 gets 27° idle and max i’ve ever seen is 70° and that was overclocking to 1996 mhz. (in a h500i case) normal load is 55°

[@drholidayinn5810]

Hi, a question. How do I connect the cables? You mention a cable converter. Currently I have three connections on the motherboard: cpu fan, cha fan 1 and cha fan 2. 1 and 2 are being used by my current AIO fans, the other by the pump. So for the new AIO, what do I need? Split cables? Please instruct me on what to buy and how to connect. Thanks.

[@ExySmexy]

He already mentioned this. You need a vga to cpu fan header. You stick the vga in the gpu and the cords from the cooler go into it.

[@RoyAugustine]

wow... this is what i looking for... thanks for the video..

[@lukasthrelkeld5676]

ace-i-tech not ars-attack

[@hys.inzomnia]

more like aye-sa--tech

[@kiefferwebb142]

$70 id-cooling version on amazon that comes with a pump 👌 Works INCREDIBLY on my 1080.

[@tomeplay1288]

I’m not going to lie your very under rated

[@dhkdts7834]

Great ! and Thanks ..im sure will buy dis one

[@Sino_89]

did you put heatsinks on memory and vrms? planning to put it on the 2080ti

[@Luchingador]

the fan on top should be enough

[@stuffy-on-youtube2830]

So does the kranken x62 come with it

[@bloomfield295]

In the end of the video you mentioned, you were able to run your 9900k at just 49c under full load using the kraken x62 cooler. I am sorry to say but I don’t believe that is possible. It is only possible when ambient room temperature is under 10c. Personally I am running a 9900k direct die using liquid metal with the kraken x62 and with ambient temperature of 32c, my 9900k runs as hot as 70c under adobe premiere 4K render.

[@AirBearGaming]

I showed my temps during testing. Hopping between 48c and 50c. I too render 4k footage but the stress tests were done with Furmark. Also tested with the main MSI benchmarking standard on repeat. Maybe I'm lucky..maybe my install is perfect..but those are my temps

[@astnla]

also, what did you use to spread the thermal paste? im getting ready to do this assembly in a couple days and hoping i know everything there is to know!

[@jsweetser2]

lots of retail thermal paste purchases come with a spatula spreader now

[@Addeatt]

I too was thinking about doing this but decided to wait, as I was unsure where to plug the pump into. I currently have my pump header used by my Kraken Z63 which is cooling my CPU. With the PWM fan adapter does that then plug into the pump on the aio? Would that mean that the pump speed wouldn't be constant and/or even off/on at certain times regarding the load on the GPU? I'm just curious on how to run 2 AIO's without having to enter the realm of a custom loop. Any feedback is much appreciated as the tips here in this video have got me interested again in moving forward with cooling my GPU as well! Thanks!

[@wolf.breeze]

I have a question, so where do you plug in the radiator fan? I know you plug in the bracket's fan into the gpu fan slot, but I'm a little confused about the aio's fan. Would it go in the pump fan slot or a pwm system fan slot? Thanks and very helpful video

[@randomv3iwer]

Hi there. How did you config our RADs airflow? exhaust or intake? How did you set your GPU AIO Fan/Pump speed? preset or through GPU when connected to its Fan header?

[@JohnDoe-kl8cd]

Friendly tip, if you dont want CAM sending your personal information back to there server. Use windows firewall and block CAM.exe in the Outbound.

[@lahlux6995]

I cant believe u started getting in the pc game i wish i had money then id get some ram to play csgo and and some other easy to run games cause i have a i5 650 and a nividia gt 210

[@TheJewadbashir]

I used the exact same products to use on a 2080ti. It works great

[@Vibezz_0790]

For the temp cooling, performance increase on the OC and low cost, im willing to probably forgo the rgb msi dragon lol

[@hunterkingfishing6253]

Wondering if you’re planning on doing a review of the Xbox scuf prestige?

[@AirBearGaming]

Fine I'll do it 😁

[@danielemba8693]

hey man, nice video. congrats. I have a External gpu , (pci, and a Nvidia gtx1080) I wanna know if its possible to connect this kraken to my pci so It can work. or is necessary to connect to the mother board? the EGPU works on a thunderbolt 2 to a MacBook Pro earlier 2013.

[@soumyadeepghosh7815]

Hello, I am kinda late to the video here. I have a MSI GTX 1660 Super Ventus XS OC. Now, as for the current GPU market I can't upgrade to a 3060/ti. My temps generally go way over 80 sometimes at full loads and it starts to drop performance(I clean my gpu every week , changed thermal paste 2 times now, also the thermal pads.) Nothing simply works out. I live in a hot & humid climate (generally 40+ C). So I was looking for ways to watercool my gpu(it obviously worked good on my ryzen 3600) and came accross your video. I have seen some people use amd brackets for this, but I really liked your method. Now the issue is, should I do it as per the current GPU market? (it seems like it will stay like this till 2023). Really hoping for a reply btw. Need help!

[@fashiontotallyrox]

Hi! I am interested in watercooling my Gigabyte 2080 super... any suggestions for blocks? where is a good place to look?

[@MarigoldAW]

Would that small bracket modification work for the Nvidia RTX 2060 Super as well?

[@Hihihihiririri]

Did you guys run it for more than an hour? Because the water will get hot slower but likely to reach the same temp as the fan. Also can you do one that is not a blower model buy a normal two or three fan?