Watercooling for Beginners 2018

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[@dom]

Thickness vs length. A debate that spans the human existence. 😂

[@TheChamp3n]

it is not the size but the performance..... right.. ?

[@0nex_681]

Thicc

[@PatrikTothMaster]

the girth...

[@iu7860]

size is less important than the performance

[@Boeb95]

A 560mm monsta rad from alphacool with 8 3000 rpm noctua 140mm fans has both length and girth.

[@LunchBXcrue]

Tips for building a PC in 2018: -Shop around for lowest price -Realize GPU and ram prices are astronomically high -Sell left arm and liver to afford a 1080 -whops to late in the time it took you to wake up from the surgery prices have already quadrupled so now you'll need to sell your left testicle as well -At least it has rgb

[@yeldah824]

Bring me Peter pan 1080 = $549

[@bunta6734]

pc's are cheap. building a high end worth 10k dollars is cheap.

[@RufflezRevolution]

more like: find a r280x on FB for $50 (out preformed a gtx 1050 higher TDP and footprint tho) find an old i5 2500 on the side of the road or from a cheap AIO buisness machine and overclock it to 4ghz. or even a old xeon server selling for $50 add a $3-4 cheap water block from ebay, and a $9 radiator and your good to go with decent enough power, GPU block and reservoir optional XD.

[@cod3368]

Just download ram and a graphics card lmao

[@krzych3114]

Why do you people embarrass yourself like that... In places where a liver or a kidney is worth $549 nobody is building PCs, because there people live in a cave and eat ants. Any average working man from at least a semi civilized region can spend few hundred dollars on his hobby once per 2 or 3 years.

[@Gogargoat]

Can I use holy water for my Christian build, or would I need to distill it first?

[@srdjandamjanovic4625]

Sure, God is keeping an eye on corrosion, flora growth etc.

[@marcun666]

Yes but you have to boil the hell out of it.

[@C.Church]

Holy Water is known to have feces in it. Use distilled.

[@TheContentStudios]

The power of Christ computes you!

[@chrisscott7990]

God: Let there be life You: Damn, I need to clean out the loop again

[@NeimEchsemm]

1:29 radiators 4:22 Fan, static pressure vs airflow 6:18 push, pull, push and pull 7:11 cleaning your rad 8:07 fluids 10:15 mixing metals 12:00 tubing

[@reimon5410]

Thx

[@mohammeded-dahbi7603]

Thank you

[@the_Wolf_directly]

The real mvp

[@Astfgl]

"It's science, you can't deny it." That doesn't stop people from trying.

[@h0lyhandgrenade]

people like Trump you mean

[@gwynbleiddroach2589]

h0lyhandgrenade had to bring politics into it? Jesus.

[@tobiasschafer3778]

#flatearther

[@h0lyhandgrenade]

Brian I’m pretty sure you’re confused about what my comment even meant based on your response. #overyourhead

[@420f37]

@@h0lyhandgrenade trump? the guy that gave nasa a nice budget raise? oh no, he possibly couldnt believe in science

[@Barnacules]

These tips suck, everyone knows the best way to do a water cooling loop is to use garden hose from home depot, a bucket full of Prestone anti-freeze and a water block made out of a kids sippy cup sealed to the CPU with bathtub caulk. #DropsMic #ProTip

[@fhernandez25]

why not use antifreeze? lol

[@SolDust-vy3cw]

The most epic use of a hash tag.

[@kingdekastle6330]

That was so janky that even Linus might be proud

[@remipicard162]

Barnacules Nerdgasm I built my pc in a bath tub, works like a sharm

[@Nick-hn4gb]

@@remipicard162 my PC *is* the bathtub. Literally.

[@Barnacules]

I had problems with my soft tubing breaking down using the Fesser 1 solution, just make sure you use coolant that works with the tubing you have because that gummed everything up and kind of scared me away from liquid cooling after that. Jay's builds are legit though, the hard tubing stuff looks amazing and seems like you almost never have to flush it.

[@dustinjames1268]

Yeah, hardline tubing is far superior It's a bitch to deal with, because you have to bend it yourself and get the angles just right, but the feeling when you finish what you've done, and see that it works aswell as being low-maintenance, it's worth the effort It looks sexy, you can do fancy custom designs, and even accomodate GPU's into your loop, that you might not be able to do with an AIO or an air cooler

[@SOU6900]

Dustin James Or if you just want to be lazy you can just cut the acrylic to the length you need and just use fitting instead of bending it. Or I at least assume you can do that, I've honestly never touched water cooling of any kind. But now that my FX-6300 is sitting collecting dust since I switched to the R5 1600 I might use my old as a test bed for practicing water cooling.

[@dustinjames1268]

With acrylic you have to be careful with the bends or you'll kink/crack the tube, both can cause problems for obvious reasons My point isn't not to watercool, just that if you do, know the risks, and make sure you're going in prepared so you don't destroy anything

[@SOU6900]

Dustin James I get what you are saying. To a complete novice at it like me using fittings instead of actually bending the tubing sounds better. I mean you don't have to use fittings instead of bending. It just depends on what someone it comfortable with. If and when I do my first water cooled build I may just use flexible tubing since my goal is for it to be more functional than stylish.

[@hookhandtech5567]

Damn, Jay got to it...lol Jerry, sounds like you have PVC tubing and not the tubes without plasticizer...this will gum up stuff quick fast in a hurry no matter what solution you put through it. Loads of explination can be found here: www.overclock.net/forum/61-water-cooling/1380775-what-plasticizer.html#post19720009 Swap your soft tubing out for Tygon or maybe Primochill Advanced LRT. They are DEHP free and shouldnt gum up and dissolve with any fluids in them.

[@brendanloy9468]

'and this is where the thickness vs length argument comes in'

[@TacticalReloadGaming]

My Wife said size doesnt really matter, that there is nothing i should worry about :(

[@drunknpublic9506]

ohhh poor guy...its OK!!! some chicks actually dig little ones...in fact from what i have read/heard/seen..they are usually pretty damn hot 2....buuuuuut they might want to try to stick things in your rear....

[@evaluna122]

drunkNpublic nigga what!

[@TheManinBlack9054]

drunkNpublic where's the downside?

[@JoeNokers]

*sitting in 35 degree australian heat* soon summer will be upon us.... cries internally

[@falk2009]

Oof

[@uss-dh7909]

It's the middle of winter up here in the US, isn't that heat already upon you?

[@mattygee1402]

Jake Townend *cries harder looking at Australian tech prices*

[@phiphedude7684]

its 38 in south africa rn

[@Ghost456ify]

Try *40 degree* South African heat in the boland

[@The_Robot_Youtuber]

I read Waterboarding for beginners so disappointed.

[@ajuanmanband3446]

Robot KZbinr x4dduaaf

[@user-ch4pk3dg8z]

Top 10 saddest anime moments

[@gennadyreshetnikov5948]

Use distilled water with anti-corrosive agent when watterboarding.

[@unaccessibIe]

top 10 nigga oof moments

[@zach5505]

I mean some people think bondage is cool I guess

[@shogunharvey]

Jay is without a doubt the coolest tech KZbinr. You don't need no self improvement books!

[@jeneralgod]

that's a bit ironic since everyone learns how to build a custom watercool from a guide made by a self taught professional

[@NoJokesPlz]

This is not watercooling for beginners, but the introduction to radiators.

[@drewbin101]

Hey Jay, just wanted to comment that these types of videos in my opinion are some of your best when you give not only good tips but practical practices for all types of builders! I myself am not into overclocking my components at all, I usually just buy components that are far above my highest demand and try to future proof my system that way instead! With that, watching your channel and all your great looking builds, I thought, i would never need that at all for myself but then I started to see a trend of needing to replace my AIO's about once every other year or so as they would either decrease in performance over time or components would fail! I want to build a custom loop now basically just to have the freedom of being able to service the system and the individual components separately! And I thought why not do it "right" from the beginning and make it look nice and use quality parts as well! I'm sure for you, building these systems is a breeze, but I'm pretty good at building and I have most if not all the tooling already! My question is how often do you break your system down as a rule for maintenance? And what is the benefits/drawbacks of cooling multiple components in a single loop like you do? I'm pretty certain that I will be going in this direction and I'm willing to take the time to learn, but I'm not sure if you moved up from AIO's over time or if you were always a custom type of guy? Thanks in advance for any feedback! This video came along at the perfect time for me as I'm looking to maybe go with a high core count CPU, maybe looking at coffee lake that might hit the sweet spot if the overclocking is decent! Anyways thanks again! Great video! Cheers!

[@morph200]

Great! Thanks Jay! I would really like to see a whole 2018 guide for watercooling. I already learned a lot from you. The basics. But i am interested in stuff like, filling and draining the loop. Fill ports. Where and how to install drain ports and how to use them. What is the most easy way to measure tubing for cutting and bending angles ect. That would be great! Grettings from Austria!

[@devong1838]

2018: when you can't buy a graphics card cheap enough to also buy water tubing

[@morph200]

i was lucky getting one before the prices exploded.

[@Obiter3]

I'm going with a smaller, complete self enclosed system for my little rig, but I love watching these over the top water cooling systems get put together.

[@nickroth1906]

Regarding anti-growth agents, I think the better explanation is "Life, uh, finds a way."

[@toyhos609]

That was a Jurassic joke

[@AquaticSCP]

@@toyhos609 wow really?!?!?

[@phill80]

As a beginner in water-cooling, I took in about 12% of what you were talking about Jay. This was definitely more of a Watercooling for intermediaries.

[@RyanReevesM]

What about fittings for the rookie? Literally have the parts from one of your builds but see a lot of different fittings used so unsure.

[@darkrevenger04]

Speaking from experience of my current build being my first watercooled, compression fittings for petg is the way to go

[@loyalitiy]

Use that one that fits your build or you like. Expensive fittings does not mean that they are better. Got some EK for petg they are really shitty. Very sharp edges and bad threaded even though they were expensive.

[@HeadHunterDV81]

Plan your waterloop before getting fittings and decide if you want to use fittings for bends or if you want to bend the tubing, if you decide to bend the tubing you will need less fittings which saves you money and i personally think it looks alot cleaner, compression fittings are the way to go for hard tubing, once youve planned your loop you can then decide where you want your fittings and which fittings you want to use My current build has 2 straight fitting to the cpu, 2 straight and 90 degree fittings that go to my radiators and reservoir and 2 straight fittings to my gpu as well as some fittings for fill and drain ports but you can skip those if you dont mind the extra hassle of filling and draining your loop when you need to flush it also if you choose to bend your tubing be sure to practice bending some before you make the bends for your rig as making a mistake can look quiet nasty or result in leaks, i tend to run distilled water through my tubes to check for leaks before putting them in the rig and then leak testing them in the rig as it can be a pain to empty and take apart the loop if a tube has a leak

[@velinion1]

Depends on your tubing (or vis versa). Pick your tubing type, then look up compatible fittings, and pick one you like the look of that's in your price range. I just overhauled my 5 year old water loop, replacing the old clouded soft tubing, and put in new fittings too since I was in there. Stayed with soft tubing, since it's easier to work around and I swap PC components a lot) Got the PrimoChill FlexSX fittings since I liked the look, but used to use barb and clip fittings from XSPC which worked fine, but didn't look nearly as good.

[@hookhandtech5567]

He covered fittings quite a bit over his older videos. I agree, that he should revisit this annually, just a quick and dirty for what is on the market for us noobs at the given time.

[@lawrencedalimonte4420]

Jay, just wanted to say thanks for posting these kinds of videos. I built my 4th PC recently and thanks to some of your videos I decided to go with a custom water loop. Even though setting one up the first time was a lot more work than usual, I felt confident after doing research that I could make it happen. It has been running smoothly for about a month now and its the best running/looking PC I have assembled yet. I appreciate all your hard work and look forward to enjoying future content from this channel.

[@brkbtjunkie]

Your audio is so much better than a lot of review channels. Thank you!

[@alexanderohman1707]

Jay: "That's where the debate of thickness vs length comes in" Me: Are you still talking about radiators?

[@SapphicNeko]

Small nitpick, Deionized water and distilled water are not the same. Distilled water still have certain mineral contaminants left, but is pH neutral. Deionized water will absorb CO2 when in contact with air, and makes H+ and HCO3- which causes the pH of deionized water to drop down to about 5.5-5.6 making it corrosive.

[@SapphicNeko]

This is a picture a work colleauge of mine sent from a system which ran deionized instead of distilled water for about two years. The green stuff is copper corrosion and in the inlet tube on the left, you can see it becoming completly blocked off with particles from the corrosion. orig00.deviantart.net/20d6/f/2018/028/c/f/20170425_113940_by_sapphicneko-dc1in2e.jpg

[@perkele1989]

Your consistence on telling people to just go for it and overclock finally got to me, and I just want to say THANK YOU JAY! BF5 from 90 FPS to 150+, which is perfect for my 144hz monitor, and on stock cooling with stable temps!

[@NicolasTasche]

Well dog, after having watched hours of your videos spanning back 4 years, I'd say you earned a sub. Thanks for all the WC help thus far!

[@avim2578]

Nick Tasche 4 years to press one button. You’re lazy

[@Psittac20]

I'd love to see a video themed around maintenance. Fill port's drain port's loop cleaning etc

[@masondotnet]

+1 seems like a great video idea.

[@LadybugAdventures]

Thickness vs length. This vid might get demonitized!

[@tommyboy054]

Ha!

[@ryanchase6194]

I'm sorry, I can't like this comment, there are 69 likes already. P.S. I do like it however

[@ethanvg2392]

@@ryanchase6194 Reporting in from 7 Months later, I cannot like it because it's at 169.

[@TeeJayParkour]

Guess ill be 269.

[@obamaamongus5618]

6969?? Anybody???

[@seanclark8250]

This helped me a ton... about to tackle a Thermaltake P7 Ryzen 9 3950x build and I have never done anything close to this scope or size. Setting this bad boy into a desk tabletop, because I also do woodworking with fractal burning and epoxy as a hobby. Appreciate the treasure trove of lessons learned.

[@danger2635]

The power of habit. One of my first audibles ever. Very recommend. Will make you really rethink/how you see things.

[@benkernstine9678]

Could you do a video on how to properly plan a loop out and find all of the parts that work together online?

[@Jeremy-Biggers]

EKWB has a configurator to select all the parts you need for you

[@TheBrokenEclipse]

Would be amazing to see a thorough comparison of the newest air and water cooling solutions

[@Bitt3rh0lz]

Just watched this. Jace there is a Tip for Acrylic Pipes that you can use to finish them, which is very very shortly grazing them with a non smoking flame. Typically one from a burner. This trues up the surface immediately and makes the Acrylic look shiny and snazzy like glass.

[@doubledragon2074]

I am a computer tech and am building my first water cooled gaming pc today. Thank you for this video sir and I hope to get more water cooled jobs in the future.

[@WoodWorkLIFE]

About to start my build, glass tube, hopefully SLI ugh, it is going to be nerve racking...

[@TheBackyardChemist]

I wish you talked more about really cheap stuff from ebay/aliexpress, like the 19$ water block you tested on the 8700k with great success.

[@seppalastname4574]

The problem is, it can be good in the first couple days/weeks but the chance for leaks is higher, due to bad QC etc

[@ellonysman]

This is great! Not only sound information for noob builders but also for us who might buy slightly used. And the fact that some manufacturers show display photo's with it mounted in not a preferred location position, which can cause whinning, this will help us all not start whinning! Thanks Jay, youre the bomb. NOTE FBI: Bomb as in being great, not destructive substances!

[@user-ji6ze9pb2w]

In Norway right now it's very cold and much snow... Ugh. Listen to JayZ. P.S. And use a DCS, (a spray duster.) to clean your went and radiator to clean it. That is the best choice. Remember to turn off your system. If you use a vacuum cleaner you can make static or destroy the went.

[@pseudonymity0000]

##!! WARNING !!## ##!! BAD ADVICE !!## NO JAY! deionized water is not the same as distilled! deionized water is not used in situations involving long-term contact with metals. It is reactive and corrosive, as the water desperately wants to get them Ion's back. This means that in your loop, it will attack the copper to get it. also, the process to make deionized water does not remove uncharged organics. This means that there is no guarantee that it will be sterile. Distilled however has some ion's contained, enough so that the water will not be as aggressive on your metal parts. also, because of the process, it is sterilized.

[@England91]

But don't drink a lot of either of them as it tries to grab onto the salt/sodium in your body

[@xXEPIKgamerXx]

hmm usually its the other way around for normal water.

[@England91]

@@UnluckyBro- no idea

[@joshuaschonberger2675]

You know the best cooling fluid is Vodka

[@philkism]

Never heard this before. Just mixed my car engine coolant with deionized water. Rip.

[@VadimDee]

Jay, please, record "how to..." video including: 1) Tips how to locate pump/radiator in case, to avoid air bubbles stuck in loop; 2) How to expel air from loop.

[@AnduNinicu]

3) How to clean the radiator

[@MatthewPerry94]

4) How to set-up a drain port. Those kits don't come with extra fittings for that

[@superman97879]

Just finished my first water-cooled pc. Have watched a few of your videos on water-cooling, all very good. Took me a while to build and had a few problems. The second radiator ended up on the front of the case. I've had to modify my case a bit to fit the tubbing and still need to modify the front panel for the case. Now Running Windows 10 pro, overclocked at 27% at idle CPU temp is about 27c. If anyone is new to water-cooling I would recommend flushing the radiator(s) out first with distilled water, get a decent case and allow plenty of room for the cooling loop and fans, and take your time. Motherboard: Asus X299 Prime Deluxe - EKWB RGB Nickel + Plexi Water Block RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16GB Kit DDR4 3600MHz Graphics Cards: Asus GeForce GTX 1070Ti Strix 8192MB Watercooler: EK A240 Bundel with an additional EK-CoolStream SE 240 Radiator. Case: Corsair C70 Vengeance Power Supply: Corsair RM850X 850W

[@TheBigCarp321]

I had no idea that my tubes kept getting cloudy all those years ago because I was using the cheap flexibend tubing. Thanks!

[@JalapenoCheetohz]

I'd really like to see a video about accessories, controllers, temp sensors, flow meters, etc. I want to be able to build my machine, boot it up and start playing. Not spend 5 minutes every day checking for leaks, making sure the pump is still pumping, etc. Something that monitors and alarms me if my loop fails is nice.

[@KaptainKerl]

I mean all of that is basically build in. the reserviour is not completly full all of a sudden? you got a leak. cpu overheats all of a sudden? you got a bad pump. cpu has build in temp sensors, remember? :D

[@JP-uk9uc]

Yet another reason why I'm sticking with air cooling.

[@NapFloridian]

Jay, I don't care what everybody else says about you... You rock Watercooling, great video buddy Jokes aside, thanks for sharing this

[@romangeneral23]

Building my new RIG, first time using water cool. Thank You Jayz

[@kaoswylie5928]

Great video, helps me feel a bit less overwhelmed with the idea of doing a custom loop. A topic I would like to see in the next video would be keeping the rad clean of dust etc and what methods are good to clean them.

[@Albatrox]

i will put fiji water in my water cooling

[@johnsmiths256]

Oooo fancy

[@kennya5165]

I'd rather use Smart water, it's a computer after all...

[@xxxxxx5868]

bibibobo baba Bruh you don't wanna freeze your PC, Fiji water is too overkill tbh

[@honeyglazeham9621]

Thank god Amazon Prime ships 55 gallon drums for free.

[@sailorbobbyhill]

Evian 🤣

[@Thewickedjon]

Jay, I think you should have spreaded out the material. do one video for each topic, and go more in depth. (hard line 101) ep 1- hardline cuttingh ep2- hardline bending ep3- when to use hardline or fittings ep4- buld examples (b-roll footage for builds as a fan service (radiators & fans101) ep1- radiator sizes ep2 - fan sizes ep3- types of fans

[@devong1838]

Thewickedjon I mean he basically already has videos for all of those. There's a very in depth video that covers hardline bending as well as cutting (bc cutting isn't that complicated) and the fans are already covered pretty thoroughly in this video.

[@devong1838]

And I'm pretty sure he already has a fittings video

[@miikaeatsbagels7320]

Starting my first custom loop this spring! Jayz Videos all the way!

[@CSharkBytes]

The one warning I have is watercooling is life, except on 24/7 machines where you are not always around to take care if something goes ary. My sister's 24/7 Watercooled setup (running a 24/7 homebuilt router) one day decided to have pump failure. The D5 just gave up the ghost. Thankfully it was on a weekend and she was home. That machine is now air cooled and so now is my 24/7 Esxi host for my VM's which used to be under water. I think a lot of folks just starting would like to know about fittings since there are a glut of them. Plus the angle types and purpose of the different kinds of fittings.

[@NanuNanu14]

I'm confused about cleaning out the loop. Would you be willing to make a video about that? Maybe show how to use that Mayhems Blitz thing?

[@nitekroller]

Seconded. I would love an in depth video explaining cleaning, and even draining a loop!

[@TTfche]

Here is one that might help You out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/faK8gmCOo7SDhqs

[@TheLord-ce5wf]

So.... When are you going to produce "I Digress" t-shirts?

[@PetrSzturc]

Just for goot matter: con of hard tubing is you have to dissasemble everything (and bleed it) if you need to upgrade/change components - you can avoid that to a degree with soft tubing. Thanks for the video!

[@lynns0802]

This video came at a perfect time. I am thinking about doing my first loop and have been going through your older videos gathering information. Having this video to refer to is perfect. Thank You.

[@derks0]

you know what you should do man, is get a separate loop with mixed metals at let it run over time and you can show us corrosion in action :) maybe we can see what gets affected more, where it may build up or whatever ... also xD totally digging the jayz nonsense haha too funny lol

[@joneren1xD]

But Jay, you never told us what fluid to use for mixed metal loops. If anyone would kindly recommend any coolant for refilling my aio that I fixed a leak in, it would have been greatly appreciated. Edit: I ended up using EK CryoFuel clear, works perfectly so far. I'm using a Corsair H75.

[@joneren1xD]

I will most likely end up using EK-CryoFuel clear :/

[@SKYL1N3]

I am using the coolant that there is in refrigirators and A/Cs. Good temps with max graphics and no problems in corrosion etc... CPU got 24°C idle and 38°C under load. GPU got 21°C idle and 36°C under load

[@Humbus]

You hit the freaking jackpot

[@Poisoned2010]

Actually read that book, Power of Habit, very good. So glad you made a new video for into to WC

[@Bobzillaaaful]

can you do a video showing the temp difference between a 120 and a 240 mm water cooler?

[@venomfall]

Thank you so much Jay! I asked for this a while ago honestly not expecting much but you came through for all of us! Thanks so much!!

[@michaelw6015]

I have white flextubing in my build. I like the flexibility when i have to work on it and change components like mainboard and cpu. No need to drain the loop like with hardtubes. Plus the white tubes stay white for very long.

[@countmorbid3187]

I always used car coolant. Worked like a charm. And if you're a fan of funny colors ... they have them too. Did my first water cooling with the legendary 300A. Added a peltier lateron.

[@harrisonhawkins3310]

You should do a cheap water cooling video from parts on eBay they're abundant.... It might be pretty interesting. Either way great video as always

[@ryansrandomshop]

Harrison Hawkins I second this

[@Shah_creates]

I third this.

[@Berserkir79]

Just bought a EVGA 1080Ti FTW3, just so i can get a EKWB waterblock for it, and then slowly start doing my first custom loop! :)

[@snip931]

There is a small screw under the sticker. Remember that.

[@Berserkir79]

Thanks for the headsup, havent got the card in my hands just yet, but i'll be sure to remember that!

[@oscarmontoya2342]

How did it turn out?

[@Berserkir79]

It went well, if you're on EKWB's Discord server, you will see my build up in the Hall Of Fame voting channel later today i believe. But yeah, super excited over the build, dont regret doing it at all. The GPU is chilling at 45c celcius under regular gaming loads, and the CPU at 65c (delidded 7700k 4.8ghz), cooled down by 2x EK 360mm rads, all packaged in a Define R6 with black and grey stealthy components, with white lights. :)

[@Audzys]

Berserkir 79 wow that is crazy similar to my build. I happen to have a 1080 zotac mini ( finding a water block was nearly impossible ) but do you have tips for building in the r6?

[@widerfov]

Great now we are are forced to watch a full 15 sec commercial with no skip, and then we get another "in-video" ad by Jay, which I don't mind because it's usually somewhat relevant, or I can skip it if I've seen it. It reminds me of the "commercial to watch a commercial" brilliance. On a more serious note...love your videos Jay, keep them coming as I learn a ton from you!

[@SunderMecha]

Holy crap, concise and informative. I learned a ton! Great video Jay, Thank you!

[@Fregatte86]

Just watercooled my 4x 1070ti farm. Two 360 rads. Quiet room mining is amazing on 47-48 degrees

[@bacaestrife3615]

The biggest difference between push/pull in my opinion is that pull is easier to clean. Just go in and wipe off the radiator, where as push or push and pull you need to remove the fan before you can clean the radiator. So it's matter of personal preference and how lazy you are.

[@quickflik3980]

Bacae Strife Is he saying 2x120mm for not oc and 2x140 for oc ?? Cus he is saying 2x240 so ?????????????

[@Ryan.Anderson80]

This was cool. Didn't know where to start with liquid cooling, but now I'm thinking, start with that kit.

[@TheLordNugget]

A problem that I had with soft tubing, which eventually led me to try rigid tubing, was that over time the tubing would expand where barbs stressed it. I had a pump very similar to the Koolance PMP-450. It has those connections that really stretch out the tubing. Initially it's great as it pretty much guarantees that there will not be any leaks, but over time the tubing expands to fit and it develops leaks since the tubing no longer can regain its original shape. Also hard tubing allows you to fully control where your tubing is. Soft tubing just is. The only control you have over where your tubing is with soft tubing is on the order of connections.

[@toastymallow-gaming8382]

what about cleaning aluminum rads? how would you go about that? Mayhems cleaning solution says not to use it on aluminum kits.

[@jarede3403]

Compare 10/12 vs 12/16 mm PETG tubing. My friend and I built our computers with each one and it’s a different bending experience. Thanks for the video Jay!

[@LifeofAedan]

My stomach was tingling this whole video with a big smile! lol, I'm almost saved up for a whole watercooling loop!!!!!!

[@charlesfortnerii7632]

I'm so glad you made this. I just got the parts for my new build that I want to do a custom loop for. Definitely using this to pick out water cooling parts. Thanks Jay!

[@webfactorysolutions]

Can you please make a video on how to properly clean the radiator?

[@phishphood423]

Yo JAY. Please help beginning hardliners figure out how to properly measure the lengths required.

[@JosephArata]

Point though Jay, the AIO coolers are running anti-corrosive treated automotive class coolants in them, that's why they don't corrode and start leaking everywhere.

[@matthewhoffman7082]

The Green Hornet settles it. If I have enough money for my next build, hard line tubing. Won't do glass, but I'll do PETG tubing in all straights. While being bendable (with a heat gun) is a perk, the glass tubing shows that there's nothing wrong with some additional hardware taking care of the bends!

[@Xantosh82]

JayzTwoCents used thickness vs length and didn't use puns, he has matured!

[@ollep9142]

1. You got the "pressure drop" thing presented wrong. It's quite straight forward: For a given radiator the drop in air pressure is a function of air flow. A fan designed for pressure will be able to maintain a higher pressure and thus flow through the radiator. It's also by no means a new thing. Pabst, for example, has had plenty of high pressure fan designs for several decades. 2. Galvanic corrosion. Barely an issue. I've been running a test with a bit of aluminium and a bit of brass with a metal connection between them, sitting in a cup of pure mineral water for months now (with more water added every week to make up for evaporisation). On the aluminium surface there's plenty of calcification but no corrosion. On the brass there's some oxide at the top where it's been in and out of water. No sign of galvanic corrosion at all! 3. Soft vs hard tube. Soft tube is typically cheaper! Clouding can't be much of a *problem* when using opac fluids or having the system in a case with no windows. And even if clouding occur it's *cheap* and simple to just replace the tube at each maintenance...

[@vyor8837]

brass and aluminum are compatible, copper and aluminum are not.

[@ollep9142]

Brass, copper and nickel are very close in the lists, which is why you typically find all of these used for fittings. Aluminium is a notable bit further less "noble". (Measured 0.4V galvanic at the start of my test.)

[@ThePeters2010]

great vid Jay. Only ever used distilled water in my loop and on copper/brass/nickel. Never cleaned it, or flushed it and it's been running for 6 years solid pushing 4.7 out of my 3930k and triple 580's. Have silver in res. and it's still crystal clear.

[@TehSiets]

I would like a deeper breakdown on how the flow of the liquid is supposed to work in a watercooled system? Where should the liquid "start" and "end" in a system? Is the flow automatically established by the tubing and location of the components, or is there some kind of pump inside that you need to install to keep things moving? A full parts shopping list in an example build would also be helpful for visualizing a project and breaking down cost expectations if I ever wanted to upgrade my standard medium case + fans setup.

[@lchulo4nyc]

Hey Jay, Your amazon link doesnt seem to work anymore. Anyway you can get it back up?

[@JeremyHansenblue2kid3]

So first thank you for finally doing this video I see you as the god of water cooling. My question is say I have just my cpu water cooled with over clocking and I mount to the front of the case to I blow the hot air out the front or bring that air in the case? Or do I mount to the top of the case to blow the hot air out the top? Just thinking of the best way to keep my gpu temps down while cooling cpu with little to no effect of gpu thanks buddy!!

[@darkrevenger04]

Best to mount to top to assist the fans in blowing air out as heat wants to rise and cold air falls.

[@nottheengineer4957]

Bitwit tested this with an AiO. The results where overwhelming, front mount is a whole lot better.

[@JeremyHansenblue2kid3]

That's why I want someone else to test it because gamer nexus (who does more controlled scientific thermal testing with cases) wasn't clear on if bitwit was correct or not but just simply said his testing was flawed but that it was okay that it was flawed lol then talked about how to control the variables in the future.Also bitwit didn't touch upon the fact you need to maintain positive air pressure really and what is the best way to maintain that with liquid cooling

[@VileLasagna]

Right.. so for ideal performance of your rad, you always want to be pushing cold air through the rad, which means you want it as intake whenever possible. That said, not only is that not always possible, that also means that your air cooled components will be taking in air that's already been warmed by the rad. You mention GN and they've done quite a bit of testing on how temps affected, say, GPU performance, as they fluctuated clocks to keep their thermal target, so that's something you probably want to keep in mind. With all that, each situation's a bit different. I'd say think about the air flow on your case, and the path you're setting with your intake and exhaust fans.... Don't worry about things like "but hot air rises" and similar... you have mechanical force working on your pressure, instead. But you want to make sure that you get air flowing through where you want (so if you decide to intake from the top, you want to make sure you have exhausts on the bottom and/or the front, etc...). Usually front intake is good because it's easy to blow air in the general direction of your components and top exhaust is useful to try and keep dust out a bit. Sorry for not a definite answer but ultimately, each build ends up being a bit unique, these are some of the things to be considering though.

[@MageThief]

Thanks Jay, it was really informative and erased a bunch of question marks for me. I would like to see a detailed similar guide for water cooling with all the "putting it together" steps and know hows. Also, a detailed step by step with lots of information with overclocking would also be helpful.

[@4thhorsemen404]

I'm new to building a P.C I'm preparing for it ...thanks Jay I appreciate all your videos you go the route of what best works for that person. It just amazes me no matter the subject or where the comments are there filled with all the experts. Their the experts and everybody else is wrong...then 5 others experts move up to take that one's place.

[@FNorberto92]

EK-Phoenix review?

[@Tac_3403]

Can you do some budget build soon? Poor students like me can't afford all this!!

[@Tac_3403]

Rik Dusk true, but I was thinking more along the lines of used parts found on eBay/Craigslist etc. trying to build my first pc and managed to find a 1050ti on eBay for around $100

[@joshberman1848]

I think hes working on a amd fx series budget build

[@Tac_3403]

Josh Berman hmm, I'm (trying) to build a ryzen 3 build currently, just waiting for the summer so I can buy all the parts

[@Labolas2Glasya]

i also heard that some fluids should only be used for showcase reasons and should be removed after 14 days. the mayhems aurora ws one of them i think

[@IAmYakYakTV]

id like to think I'm pretty seasoned at liquid cooling...both soft and rigid, but I still find myself watching your video's for refreshment knowledge...and its entertaining

[@RichsModelingTrains]

With AIOs what is there life span. Lets say after so many years should they be replaced

[@carpemkarzi]

lockon38 that is exactly what I need to know. My AIO is almost 1 year old.

[@carpemkarzi]

Pascal Dornfeld thank god its an exact science. Hehehe. I looked into BeQuiets AIO. I run the same benchmark every month to track CPU and GPU temp. If I start seeing an significant increase on the CPU (full load it maxes at 74c right now) I’ll switch out the AIO.

[@Snoopi25]

It really depends. One way to sort of eye-ball a component's life expectancy is to look at manufacturer warranties. Does that mean it will die if warranty expires in 1 year? No, definitely not, but the longer the warranty, the more quality the product might be, since companies are basically backing up their products. The EVGA AIO that I have has 3 year warranty. It should be good for at LEAST 3 years. That is not to say it will not be good for 6 years or more. Also, Carpe, fam, 74C is way too high for a CPU. You may want to consider a good air cooler if AIO is too expensive. The best bang for your buck on the market is the Hyper 212 EVO.

[@carpemkarzi]

Snoopy25 good rule of thumb

[@gauchetpierric7635]

lockon38 II

[@thefirsted]

0:42 Stopped paying attention to Jay. Distracted by pretty computer.

[@TheKamakaziChimp]

Been wanting to do a custom loop for years and now that the Corsair Slate seems less concept more product... Seeing that glass tubing gives me a plethora of ideas as well seeing as a buddy does custom glass work.

[@mattesmaschmeier]

I build my system with more 30mm rads instead of fewer thicker rads. I personally think, that having slim rads with more surface area (more fans) gives you an advantage if you use slower or sometimes not spinning fans and use the bigger surface area for passive cooling when they do not spin. I THINK thicker radiator are nearly equal to slimmer rads when it comes to no airflow passive cooling because the air only touches the outer fin layer. I just assume that this is the case, but I could be wrong. What have you experienced guys? I never owned a thicker rad than 35mm...

[@potatofieldsforever4089]

Is it worth it to watercool your gpu? It seems to me to be more useful for the gpu rather than the cpu what is your take on that?

[@EVPointMaster]

watercooling can actually increase you GPU performance a little, since they boost to higher frequencies when cooler. However watercooling your GPU is more expensive than watercooling a CPU

[@Skrixm]

Usually, you would watercool a GPU if you wanted to overclock a lot. Watercooling a CPU would improve temps slightly with a custom loop but not with an AIO. Linus did a vid on AIOs vs Big aircoolers. So it's more for aesthetics and I wouldn't recommend water cooling if you have a budget under 1.5k since a full loop could cost 250 dollars.

[@Sazyario]

Jay STOP RECOMMENDING KILL COILS! Silver will react with Nickle and cause galvanic corrosion ruining your typical EK Blocks. I ruined a $800 Loop following your recommendation of using a coil 2 years ago.

[@BenWillock]

Also stop recommending Mayhems stuff, its low quality crap and the guy who owns the company is obnoxious.

[@osho5996]

5:53 "that's why u hear the constant debate about airflow fans vs static pressure" 😂😂 first time i hear that

[@PsychoNeko011]

JAY! if you see this can you make a video or a list for the best budget custom water-cooled pc, I've been looking at the EK-A120, being just a few bucks more than most others CPU coolers, I wanted to use this for my next build. but my older brothers friends have been telling me "you should wait before you get into water-cooling" because this is my second time am going to build a computer, the first time am going to try to do it by myself and not have my dad do all the work. but if I never start doing water cooling, how will I know what to do and be prepared, and than If first time water-coolers start their build thats like nearly $2000 and than we mess up. We need a list or a build guide video for a budget test computer, something thats gonna be fairly cheap, and that we can just give away to like a family member, my dad works with designs and building projects on auto-cad, at home he mostly uses a Dell XPS (it came with windows 8) at work I don't know what he uses, but I figure since I wanna test build a custom water-cooled pc, what better way than give it to some one who needs it, that way I also don't risk destroying a $500 dollar gpu. Hopefully some one can answer this if not you but a video would be great!

[@HasXXXInCrocs]

Cheapest loop you can build for one CPU and one GPU using nae brand parts? I would watch it.

[@randomware8653]

yeees

[@andrewmp6]

600 to 800 depending brand and parts

[@genericfakename8197]

Can you use a car's radiator?

[@nekron75]

Similar size as a car radiator... thermalbench.com/2016/09/12/watercool-heatkiller-mo-ra3-420-pro-radiator/

[@MohamedHassan-lb5hx]

Yes

[@NinjaInTheFirstDegree]

Don't use a used one. Make sure its is new and clean.

[@NotAverageAfro]

Perfect way to start off my research into water cooling!

[@lllusionized]

Learned something new today, had no idea about the fact that most AIO's are mixed metals. Good to know, cheers for the tips!