Every Cancelled Valve Game

[@Lkbk0509KK]

cant imagine what its like to work at valve, you spent the past year making a game thats about to be finished and you wake up one day to it getting cancelled

[@hedwig7s]

Valve was a disorganized mess in the past so anything could happen

[@osparav]

not really how it works but believe whatever you want kid

[@Toastyisburning]

Valve has a "do what you want" type of culture. So when a game has been canceled it's because no one wanted to do all the annoying work, or they went to work on something that they think will give them better pay, like the steam deck. This is only based on what I know, and I'm not a valve employee, nor do I know any. So take this with a grain of salt.

[@GuilhermeSantos-sd5uw]

@@osparav it is u mron

[@nicholassternon5857]

It’s nothing compared to the years you can spend on a project that’s so boring, spending 5-10 years on something no one even sees like the back end to an automated answering machine

[@Netbug]

Let's hope Valve stays a private company forever.

[@Voqf]

Can you explain why? I’m very interested why.

[@supermcbrian]

@@Voqf If valve is controlled by publishers and share holders and investors, they would be pressured into pushing out games more regularly for profits, as well as dictate what would be in those games. but they wouldn't be able to explore and develop the games and tech they are famous for... like real time moss.

[@ThisUsernameSystemF-ckingSucks]

​@@Voqfinfinite growth isn't sustainable and they would look for it.

[@n9ne]

@@Voqf because valve being private means they can't slack and have investors save them meaning they really need to do their best. ANY developer can reach valve's heights it's just that most people are greedy and end up taking investor money for multiple reasons. lack of confidence being a huge one. investors also expect you to release a product in time leaving developers no room for improvements. the entire idea of a stock market is just bad it's the worst thing to have ever happened in this world. investing promotes bad behavior.. whilst being an individual and private doesn't. no one is going to save you at the end of the day. the stock market destroyed most artisan craftsmanship and that's a fact.

[@jeixs]

​@@VoqfShare holders ruin companies because they want short term investments before dipping out of the mess they made because they are paranoid rich assholes

[@ljmack20]

"or will Valve have more cancelled games in the future?" that's like asking if the sky is blue or if grass is green

[@slumbersky]

it’s crazy how many valve games that were cancelled

[@rosskuhlman]

TBH most studios do this, they just don't get as much attention as Valve does. When its time to make a new game, a bunch of developers split off into small teams to brainstorm and develop a quick proof of concept that showcases the basics of their concept. A handful of the best ones get selected to go further into development., and enter a prototype stage where the gameplay concepts get further refined, concept art gets drawn, etc. Eventually one of these prototypes gets selected to move forward into a full game, or multiple prototypes get smushed together into a new concept. I suspect a lot of these cancelled games were part of that process, and were only ever worked on for a couple months by a smaller team before being dropped

[@jozsef98]

Some ideas are just bad

[@salsamancer]

@@rosskuhlman not just game studios. Pretty much every organization that sells something is likely to start and can projects that just dont go well or end up being unrealistic. People make a big deal about Valve because when they DO release something it tends to be extremely polished and popular

[@dfunnyitc2]

yep that’s the sum of the video

[@Twiddle_things]

You wouldn't believe how many paintings, animations, stories, characters, concepts, sketches, etc get scrapped by a single artist. Now imagine that its a metric ton of artists

[@megahalo]

If ADHD was a company

[@kg8622]

Funny but valve likes to make games perfect if the idea and game isn’t perfect they will scrap or improve it that’s why they have alot of good games even if the ideas aren’t from them. Who knows the new projects they were working on could be the next generation of good valve games

[@KSA-iwnl-]

@@kg8622 "perfect" all of their games are mid

[@spinalchief96]

​@@KSA-iwnl- obvious rage bait

[@kenandjojosplayhouse4592]

@@spinalchief96 Ture, but i hated playing HL1 after BM.

[@spinalchief96]

@@kenandjojosplayhouse4592 BM is too much HL2, i personally preffer the classic for this campaingn

[@vincentthe1st]

Valve games are like Spartans. They really go through the wringer but when or if they make it out the other side they're god damn magnificent

[@superchris111evolved]

Artifact.

[@evagineer9165]

Artifact.

[@othello.]

Artifact.

[@vincentthe1st]

Artifact.

[@hatman3445]

Artifact is that disfigured guy that snitched on Spartans to Xerxes

[@kotikbr9395]

1:07 Greg Coomer

[@cac_deadlyrang]

Craig Gooner

[@RayLilith]

a real man

[@bishan_8617]

Hello Gordon

[@NaxTheGuy]

Greg cumer

[@BeeCaver]

Look Gordon Ropes!

[@tomorrowisyesterday3215]

Remember ppl crying when valve released left 4 dead 2 to fast. But they fine with cod clones every years, we could have left 4 dead 4-5 by now...

[@user-ne9sd4ow1o]

Valve fanboys are on the opposite end of the spectrum to Cod fanboys. It's like comparing a child to a full grown adult 😅

[@delusionalnoodles]

it was also a different time, where standards generally weren’t as low as they are now

[@KidneyStealer02]

Left 4 Dead 2 is better than the original and wished got more games than Cod. Surprised how the boycott Steam group is still up and people said they haven’t bought the second game yet.

[@rosskuhlman]

Man that version of Half Life 3 doesn't sound even remotely similar to what I would want. Glad they didn't go that way. I want a handcrafted linear campaign, save the randomization for L4D

[@a-ug9yk]

we got half-life threewave before half-life 3

[@4storyboss]

99% of valve devs quit before making another half life 3 game

[@nildzrecastellanos]

Every Cancelled Valve Game we know about FTFY, who knows how many others were started and canned in secret.

[@ionisation4448]

I will never forgive Valve for fumbling their deal with Adult Swim, this truly is the worst possible timeline

[@NicCrimson]

What deal?

[@GoldKillerLewis]

The Crossing was definitely an early build of what would be Dishonored both being worked on by Arkane

[@somerandombozoonline8580]

Bro the Teebo and Kai one is crazy, imagine working with a big game company to make a new game and then they cancel it to work on a port of a different game that also got canceled

[@verebellus]

Expiration Date is probably my favourite short film almost ever

[@DUKEHadToDoItToEm]

A better title would've been "7 cancelled Valve games and 33 cancelled Half Life mods/total conversion projects"

[@Japixx]

This whole VR gimic took Valve to hibernation for whole 10years. No way normal gamer paying 500-1000€ VR headset to play couple of indie titles, when ppl struggle to buy even normal consoles. 😂

[@theofficialbruhfish8094]

I mean there was also source 2 that they were perfectionists about that slowed them down

[@cj-3810]

Actually most of that time was for source 2, which is still in development… but ok.

[@cj-3810]

Mind you the headsets have been very successful as well. You can’t keep saying “no one will buy headsets” when they’re cheaper than an Xbox.

[@extraordinaryrock2013]

No clue what you’re talking about. A lot of these projects were pc, not VR, and the ones that were didn’t make it very far. There were a number of factors that caused Valve to hibernate. Also, the quest 2 was like 300$, even cheaper secondhand.

[@salsamancer]

@@Japixx "hibernation" my ass that whole time they were maintaining and improving Steam and even putting it some experimental hardware like Steam Boxes and the Steam Controller. Yeah they weren't publishing games but they were still working

[@ryngobrody1627]

Prospero could absolutely be done today really well, the multiplayer component sounds similar to what Dark Souls has.

[@bigusdicus9004]

Stanning for valve because they do what they want, not what makes the most money.

[@Skeletons_Riding_Ostriches]

Not doing what makes you the most money is the bare minimum of human decency nowadays.

[@Piix4r]

In the Valley of Gods will always be in my heart. I was so excited for the game since Firewatch was such an amazing experience. Tyler Mcvicker stated recently that most of the people from the original Firewatch studio is no longer working at Valve as they mostly helped with the development of Alyx and quit or got released soon after Alyx was out so the chances of this game ever releasing are basically 0.

[@pilsnerd420]

"Hired at I.D." *pukes*

[@icravedeath.1200]

That pronunciation was weird

[@atgcar231]

Would be nice to get more experimental valve games

[@Ha1oMiner]

I need this experimental games

[@FORCEELITE-]

Finally half life 3 is not cancelled

[@lollermann]

VALVE, MAKE THE TF2 ANIMATED SERIES A REALITY AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

[@peacemaster8117]

Almost everything Valve has released has been fantastic, and I'm sure that almost everything that ends up getting cancelled was probably dropped for good reason. That said, I can't help but be fascinated by these projects and the what-could-have-been of it all.

[@White927]

Deadlock, CSGO and Dota 2? No, Half Life alyx is meh.

[@White927]

HL alyx meh, CSGO, Dota 2, Deadlock no.

[@insertsomethin]

Love the long form content outside of cs news. Please don’t abandon reporting cuz I need you to tell me what’s going on with cs2 lol… but cool to see your creativity outside of reporting

[@rebbit2362]

There is a game series like that 0:30 named Aquanox with three games, Aquanox 1, Aquanox 2 and an remake Aquanox .

[@ryanphillips4123]

Or Subnautica

[@TSLlol]

I'm so glad they cancelled Teebo & Kai, what a horrendous feverdream, or rather nightmare..

[@ChesterManfred]

IT'S SO UGLY

[@naqdimuhammad]

I like the fact that the guy in 3:40 is completely clueless. 😂

[@connormatthews9674]

That Neon Prime footage makes me wish they had kept that style for Deadlock 😍

[@Windy7258]

Prospero genuinely sounds like a REALLY cool game if it did get made (as a narrative-driven singleplayer adventure game, that is.) I feel like the concept of facing the many versions of your yourself that are different in unique ways both good and bad is really interesting because us as players are all different in our thoughts, where we come from, our relationships, our worldviews, etc. and so the concept of facing the different you's throughout the game (to me at least) is really fascinating because you can tap into / make the game more relatable to more than just one player who is experiencing it.

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

14:00 "Time" sounds a lot like some elements of The Talos Principle

[@sauceman2885]

I think it’s important to remember that plenty of half life concepts and ideas have not made it past paper, I wouldn’t get my hopes up on leaks from something that hasn’t even been confirmed to be released

[@four-en-tee]

I figure the main reason Brotherhood was cancelled was because of Counter Strike. It would've been more of the same, which is very anti-thetical to Valve as a company. They're way too experimental, sometimes to a fault. And that's reflected in their diverse line-up of IPs.

[@belusbrontes]

NOBODY CARES IF YOU ARE FIRST‼️

[@Geeler]

⬇️ First reply button

[@Mandy-Lane]

i seen GORDON FREEMAN in a HOSPITAL.i wonder what HE DID THERE

[@KogureDevilchan]

I'm still waiting for them to make an MMO called Prospero. (in VR).

[@edom41]

Cancelation of Return to Ravenholm is a huge loss

[@myx8296]

Thanks for your efforts.

[@ArachnoPyro]

In a alternative universe we got these

[@Shrek_es_mi_pastor]

The submarine game sounds pretty cool

[@unamelable256]

This is kinda ironic that valve started to work with Counter-Strike 2 in 2000s. And still use this title for GO version because they are not able to create different name for new version of CS.

[@Plurmple_]

lets hope white sands/HLX doesnt get scrapped

[@TSLlol]

I'm still a bit sad that The Crossing got cancelled it looked very interesting

[@villings]

great video _!!_

[@emirziyad4488]

Nice vid! :D

[@TheGankuskhan]

So they scrapped more than produced? Smart. The money is in distribution, not creation.

[@PoweredByFlow]

Is this the Ghost of Kiev in the thumbnail?

[@System-ly6de]

bbroo right

[@nidango9466]

Why is Sam Hyde in the thumbnail?

[@System-ly6de]

cuz he's Gordon

[@NFelinë]

seems like they tried revisiting the dark n gritty concept for 2015 build of hl3 with the whole harsher combine rule and being set in a american city

[@thedylansang]

Of course they can count to any number!

[@WilhelmLyons]

Can't wait for new Half-Life XWay

[@Mariuspersem]

Deadlock should have been in the HL universe to be honest, combine villians vs resistance heroes

[@battyriderr]

no, valve knows better not to dilute half life/portal lore

[@Triannosaurus]

Wait…. So are you saying deadlock originally looked like ps2 ratchet deadlock??? My favorite game as a kid lol

[@NicCrimson]

F stop reminds me of Superliminal

[@Metrocop2023]

If hlx is half life wouldnt it be called Half-life: Xen

[@lesbianfurrysex]

codenames are not reflective of the final name

[@AnonymouseVR]

I would be so angry lol

[@BobDavidsons]

@@AnonymouseVR why though?

[@DemopanwithDoommusic]

why saul goodman is in the video's mini picture?

[@kadaver1n]

Sam Hyde looks hard in the thumbnail

[@System-ly6de]

my thoughts exactly

[@macrocosm2778]

so many missed opportunities

[@lepaul_Official]

better to get 1 game in a decade than a bad game like the rest of the studios

[@ivyswhatever2869]

so you're telling me that THE RABBIDS are canon to THE HALF LIFE UNIVERSE????

[@LiberusVEC]

I thought Valley of the Gods had been cancelled. glad it's still in development. probably...

[@butter_capzombie3581]

you deserve more views fr

[@lgscteam]

All those games were cancelled because of their multilayer games aka milkcows

[@theicepickthatkilledtrotsk658]

This is better and more detailed than Tylor Mcvicker's video about this topic.

[@System-ly6de]

is that Gordon Freeman or Sam Hyde in the thumbnail

[@insane7718]

Alyx & dog wouldve been so cool

[@thequeanie9829]

dude left4dead 3 map looks so much like a dust2 or mirage in cs2

[@shutupliam_]

The original dust 2 source 2 remake from like 2012? Uses assets from l4d3

[@denifnaf5874]

The list needs to be longer in the fugure😂

[@MclovinGrub]

wish sum of these games came out

[@joefortnite5]

I’m the biggest valve fan

[@phiality9070]

No, I am

[@novaswankd]

NO! NO , NO , I AM!

[@codenameh27]

No, I AM

[@Moon-lt1dl]

Who do you think you are? I am!

[@user-ne9sd4ow1o]

Are you a valve or a fan? You can't be both. - A conservative probably

[@IIIIIACE]

valve really are doing everything they can to not release any games

[@Aysentaro]

Greg Coomer

[@grubby55]

neon prime looks VERY generic, deadlock is super unique with its occult theme

[@deadfool179]

Tf2 invasion wasnt completely canned, the classes, team system, modes and the general cartoony artstyle remains identical. In fact, the footage in the video shows an early version of 2fort, showing they clearly wanted to reuse tfc maps. Even the invasion concept later got reused for the seasonal events and some maps

[@sap6661]

1:06 Greg what?

[@Razyizhere]

Coomer is just a normal name

[@coffin7904]

Coomer

[@fredsifyable]

Cooooooooooomeeeer

[@calmfog312]

Can valve finish a game?

[@unfa00]

C'mon Valve! You can still cancel Deadlock! Do it! You know you want to!

[@MogoMojo-50]

ANYTHING but three

[@insane7718]

Dayum

[@KalkuehlGaming]

27:26 you mean paris 2024

[@AN7HROSwift]

V O W L V

[@insertsomethin]

Why does the thumbnail look oddly similar to Sam Hyde lol

[@ventibaiter]

gary who now???????

[@xalener]

I love hearing about Vove's exploits in game dev

[@nempk1817]

?

[@okai7er]

vove

[@hexandcube]

3:10 Not "copyrighted". That's not what copyright is. They registered a trademark for it.

[@SonicMasterLB]

Are you Water CS2 or Water VALVᴇ? I used to immediately watch your videos when I received a notification because that usually meant a new CS update. Nowadays, videos are about everything except CS updates. I understand that there is no content for CS in the last month, and I understand that you want to expand your viewer demographic, but I'd prefer to see only CS2 updates. Now, whenever I receive a notification about this channel, I know it won't be about CS2 updates, so I don't even bother. Just my two cents.

[@AymanBruh]

crazy

[@endergamerxp5530]

1:39 I have he theory, maybe they make some add for echo during he indie fest because some similarity between those games

[@gerorgewarshington]

gordong freeman has a gyatt

[@X61djdj]

Gorgeous freeman

[@Nabashy]

Gyattus Freakman

[@goodboi6540]

Never use that word again

[@gerorgewarshington]

​@@goodboi6540 gyatton freakman

[@jibes7609]

me when i find a video with a decent headline but the creator has the most annoying voice possible

[@user-ne9sd4ow1o]

It's your average white guy voice.. How have you not gotten used to it yet? Most KZbinrs are average white guys 🤪

[@Kingstantin]

If the next Half Life game isn't VR, I'm not interested.

[@T--kq3pj]

ше it isn't VR, VR is done

[@timfondiggle2582]

Man I'm still trying to learn the real life lore let alone this and halo

[@hawyadoin1175]

I’m still salty that they cancelled the original TF2

[@Mandy-Lane]

never ever destroy a game with cartoonish graphics

[@strafelogical1174]

bungus

[@peacemaster8117]

Yeah, that's why TF2 was such a disaster and nobody played it and it made no money. Because it was "destroyed" with cartoonish graphics.

[@Mandy-Lane]

@@peacemaster8117 i tried it my opinion its really bad

[@theofficialbruhfish8094]

@@Mandy-Lanebait used to be believable

[@FrenchFryCheese04]

🤦‍♂️

[@randomcrap7682]

"hired by eye dee" wtf it's just id all you say is id wtf

[@gocasgeebok]

hlx is gonna be cancelled

[@onuruysal9649]

Nonono eyyy speak about good things boi, lets just hope its not getting cancelled

[@bethanywhite247]

it wont

[@EL1TEHD1]

No

[@attractivegd9531]

They should have canceled Deadlock, game is ultra trash.

[@bethanywhite247]

womp womp

[@EL1TEHD1]

Nah, it's just not your type of game

[@theofficialbruhfish8094]

It’s really fun actually

[@user-ne9sd4ow1o]

People are still playing League.. Some people's trash is another's treasure