Waterproofing Membranes for Showers | Schluter vs GURU

Schluter or GURU?? That's been a question of mine ever since I saw ‪@WINNI.Designs‬ using the GURU system. So I tried it out 😊 Let me know your thoughts in comments 👊. For more help with bathroom remodeling 👇👇
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0:00 Intro
0:44 Hanging Drywall around a tub surround
2:22 Thinset mixture
4:23 GURU
6:43 Important area to waterproof around a tub
7:29 Trowel size
8:16 Sealing against tub
9:11 Setting first row of membrane
12:28 Checking thinset coverage
15:26 I hate setting sheet membranes 😆
16:59 Valve seal
17:43 Pipe seal for tub spout
18:22 Pipe seal for handheld sprayer
19:13 Schluter vs GURU Test
22:26 Second row of membrane install
23:50 Pipe seal for shower head
24:28 Sealing around a shower valve
25:20 Like & Subscribe 😊
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[@MaMa-qh4dy]

Thank you for your candidness in recommending the waterproofing board rather than the membrane.

[@jaythefit8817]

I like this mixer made in Germany. I clicked your link and decided to purchase the next model up (Xo4R) so I can use it for concrete as well. I have a bunch of backyard projects when winter breakup is over.

[@catblue6393]

I think going the extra mile with waterproofing is the way to go. 👍🏻 That bathroom ends up looking very nice.

[@orlandoo4552]

Have you ever used something like Redgard which is a membrane you roll on like paint?

[@sal8575]

Love the content you provide! I've watched a ton of your videos and seen you use a bunch of waterproofing methods. If you had to stick with just 1 or 2 of the waterproofing options for the rest of your career, which route would you go?

[@showtime95667]

I am looking for the curb less shower demo.. not seeing it on your channel. Can you send a link? Want to show it to my husband. Thanks

[@showtime95667]

Do you tile on it or still add Surovik sheets.

[@stevevoyer827]

Could you not use red guard instead of membrane?

[@alexashreejohnson3368]

Where can you buy the guru system?

[@mikeww2010]

What kind of thinset do u use

[@Ticonderoga12]

I use red guard

[@eo8513]

Curious if this is way better than Durock with Redguard or personal preference. I haven’t used these systems yet for my DIY job. My Durock w Redguard turned out amazing but there must be a reason for using these systems. Love the channel. Thanks.

[@BathroomRemodelingTeacher]

Mostly a time factor. Not necessarily the time to install….because this took a couple hours to do, but the time it takes to move on with tiling Durock with redguard probably cost you another day before you could start tiling. My experience with redguard was it was very thin and required multiple (3) coats to get to the recommended mil thickness by custom I do plan on doing a liquid membrane on my next project. Most likely hydroban or aqua defense. A better liquid membrane in my opinion 👍

[@j.johnson8360]

It’s 2023 lol. Durock is a thing if the past.

[@tonygoshive785]

I’ve only used foam board and sealant to be honest, never been a fan of applying adhesive and sheet membrane and all kinds of flattening work to be honest 😂 how do you view roll on membranes, they seem like a less popular choice these days?

[@BathroomRemodelingTeacher]

Liquid waterproofing is an excellent way. I’m actually going to be doing that on my next shower build. It’ll take a little more time to be able to tile over. But it’s on the cheaper end of ways to do it and available everywhere 👍

[@MAJIN_MAGIC]

Question. Why did you not waterproof the ceiling? Should you?

[@CyborgNation]

alot of splashing happens on the walls, the ceiling gets very little splashing. and even if it gets some it's alright it can dry that away before any damage. You'd only really have a problem if you were holding your shower nozzel and aiming it at the ceiling which hopefully no one would do lol.

[@albion50258]

I had to buy XPS board from Home Depot when schluter could not be obtained, using with a schluter pan. Should I put schluter membrane over the XPS or is this overkill?

[@BathroomRemodelingTeacher]

Interesting…just looked that up and it’s sold locally at my depot too 😆 shows how much I shop for tiling products there. I wouldn’t membrane over. Just do the standard kerdi band wrap in shower pan transitions. Not much different than using go board (which many guys I know have now switched over to after having the big kerdi board shortage last year) Obviously Schluter will not approve of this method 😆 but it works just fine 👍

[@CyborgNation]

So I sell XPS Board, It's from Dural, they also use a fabric on their boards. So schluter membrane would probably work. but you wouldn't have any warranties

[@dirtychevyful]

I’ve read from internet know it alls that you aren’t supposed to put membranes over mold resistant drywall. Just supposed to use regular old white drywall…. Is there any truth to that?

[@AlLaRiviere]

Great job as usual, Steve! The Guru membrane isn't available in my neck of the woods yet, but I see the price is just slightly less than Schluter anyway.

[@BathroomRemodelingTeacher]

Yeah price is really the same. I personally probably won’t do anymore sheet membrane installs 😆 always disliked this process

[@marcelomedeiros9879]

Why not use Kerdi boards instead of drywall with membrane?

[@goldfishman2]

price mainly, he talks about it in another video

[@sean2280]

do you prefer waterproof board or this stuff?

[@BathroomRemodelingTeacher]

Absolutely 👍

[@sean2280]

@@BathroomRemodelingTeacher i mean do you prefer that water proof board you use or this membrane stuff?

[@BathroomRemodelingTeacher]

@@sean2280 waterproof foam board. Wedi, go board, hydroban board, hydroblock board. All easier overall

[@sean2280]

@@BathroomRemodelingTeacher roger that thank you sir.

[@brandonharris1420]

Who sells the guru system?

[@BathroomRemodelingTeacher]

Winni 😆 it only online I believe thetoollocker.com/products/guru-usa-water-stop-waterproofing-membrane

[@CyborgNation]

We sell it here in Panama City FL

[@Tacompton425]

Slack time is 10-mintues.

[@BathroomRemodelingTeacher]

Yep 👍

[@joedean9834]

In less than a minute we can see problems. You do not sit drywall on the tub itself. Water will collect on the top edge of the tub. Then the drywall will Wick up into the drywall. The drywall is moisture resistant, not waterproof. In under a year there will be mold on the back of this tub. In under 5 years the bottom of this drywall will be weak. Between 5 to 10 you will find loose tiles. Leave a 1/4 to 3/8 gap between the top of the tub and bottom of the drywall. Wrap the waterproofing membrane around the edge of the drywall. 2nd, tape your corners to add strength. Use the thinset to set the tape this will help strengthen the wall, reducing the chance of tile cracking later

[@BathroomRemodelingTeacher]

You might be visually impaired. Drywall is sitting on upper flange of tub. Not resting on tub deck where moister could be wicked. Plus if you watch, you’ll see sealant and membrane transitioning the tub to drywall gap

[@erichealey9923]

I thought you couldn't use the membrane on mold resistant drywall, it has to be regular drywall, no? Or it has to be primed

[@BathroomRemodelingTeacher]

Never heard of that? What would be the difference?

[@briand8380]

I heard this too on the J bridges forum I believe. Some experiences with poor adhesion they said. No personal experience though.

[@erichealey9923]

@@briand8380 I could see it being true. That paper rips off so easily on the mold resistant stuff. Even when it is primed and painted