Pixel 8, Pixel Watch 2, and a lot of AI

[@charlesdamien5849]

Oh trauma? "fix it in post" Bad letter grade? "Fix it in post" tax evasion? "Fix it in post"

[@dragonite4242]

Lol technically yes cuz you send it tax then u get audited if wrong

[@singular9]

Murder? Fix it in post!

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

I'm not there in the podcast to understand what your comment means, but I had to give you the 69th like

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

tax evasion is worse than murder in this society@@singular9

[@FirestormX9]

CLIMATE CHANGE?! FIX IT IN...... or... maybe its still bugged..

[@tanakamawere]

Marques' intro greeting of "People of the internet" should be "People of the internet, bots and AI scraping this episode. We are your hosts..."

[@quackerdeezles]

Genius

[@Atmatan]

I have a 'prove you're human' role in my discord server that's just a middle finger emote.

[@davidrochester]

I watch this in the background of my morning routine and I feel like this is the only news I care about

[@bentley625]

& Wanshow & Flagrant for laughs lol my weekly schedule... that is what 6-7 hours a week of content

[@bentley625]

Also ordered pixel 2 watch and 8pro for wife she's got 6pro and samsung watch currently

[@vz3_]

jfc this is cringe. I love this channel too but non-tech news matters too. go read a newspaper.

[@tysak4]

Same

[@bentley625]

​@@vz3_that's for BreakingPoints

[@chillinJohnny]

Assistant with Bard Is the most overdue feature They've advertised Google assistant being able to respond all of your questions when they made it

[@bashbifaananyi3136]

I guess calling Assistant bard would be better

[@arghyabiswas5078]

Here’s my tech update for the week! Friday is such a genius day to release these! Love and respect for the whole WVFRM team!

[@eomoran]

It’s actually a terrible day as they have to compete with wan Show

[@PrestoJacobson]

Why is it genius?

[@randolphwashington7265]

18:13 lol MKBHD face after he said “you can go to jail!” lol did I just hear him ask for for an ankle bracelet 😂

[@timothychinye6008]

The meaning genius is very quickly not meaning genius anymore

[@97mico]

Hi guys, just to be clear i think the "clear calling" feature was already there for the pixel 7, now it works also while using the buds

[@daboross2]

Oh interesting, I didn't know that wasn't already working

[@TheSdCardGuy]

Yes it launched with Pixel 7

[@DevWithPedro]

You guys have no ideia how much I've been binge watching your episodes while working. I love seeing the notification of a new episode! :D

[@rubenelvas6571]

you seem to work a lot then lol

[@cryptoafc7655]

ahhhahahahahahaahha@@rubenelvas6571

[@agspr]

you guys didn't discuss how they're giving you a free Pixel Watch 2 if you buy the Pro in order to make it an easier sell. i think that will sway a lot of people, it certainly swayed me!!

[@VonDarko]

Me too

[@videoz97]

Call screening has always been fantastic in my experience. Rarely have someone hang up on the assistant. Being able to see what they're saying to the assistant instantly is a game changer for screening robo calls. I'm very excited for the new improved screening.

[@heavydmcd]

Same. I love Call screen. I don't have to listen to these companies trying to peddle credit cards and no more scam calls. If they hang up I figure it wasn't that important. Also it is kind of funny to send my wifes calls to the screener every now and again lmao😅

[@Wha2les]

People always hang up, but probably spam anyways

[@claudiabailey5302]

As a person who uses Pixel and iPhone I can confirm the amount spam calls are way lower to virtually nothing on my pixel. I have to laugh that there seems some horror with you guys around pixel photo abilities but strapping Apples goggles on your face is somehow cool.

[@alexisaguirrevideos]

I’m from Atlanta, and I’ve never heard of people taking their earbuds out while talking to people. That used to happen back in the day with wired headphones, but ever since AirPods came out, everywhere I go everyone has them on all the time.

[@hazem_khalil]

I love how even though you guys are professional tech guys, you still somehow always maintain an unbiased view about new tech. Instead, you look at things holistically like social implications of new AI features or not taking earbuds out as being rude. It's what I've always enjoyed MKBHD videos. You're not blindly behind innovation.

[@eShok]

Blown away by Google's AI advancements! 🚀 I genuinely believe they're on track to outpace iPhone in disruptive ways. Can you imagine Tensor chips processing features like video boosts locally in just 2-3 years? I'm rocking a 5-year-old P20 Pro (with buttons falling out 😅) and thinking of getting the Samsung A54 as a bridge until AI matures even more. Pixel 8 Pro's tempting, but that price tag... 💸 The A54 will still have great resale value by then!

[@cosisthebest]

Feels like fantastic tech is always 2-3 years away but sometimes its nice to treat yourself and have great things now. If you're gonna have this phone for 5 more years (with software support) the price tag isn't as big of an issue

[@raycheshire5581]

7a????

[@jasco5232]

When I was rocking my Pixel 4 XL, I never saw another pixel user in my state. Then suddenly now I see so many pixel 7's. You guys are 100% correct on the surge in Pixels

[@kaylah9206]

David cracked me up today. His Heath ledger mix up and then the Google Fibonacci overconfidence

[@sachinraj126]

I think there should be a keyword trigger for the transparency mode to turn on. Maybe "hold on". I mean Google already does that with Assistant

[@ericschwartz100]

Show me my manually toggle between transparency, no cancellation mode on my AirPod Pro twos my biggest problem is that if someone starts talking to me at the gym or anywhere, adaptive audio doesn’t automatically kick in which I suppose is not designed to. However, it’s just easier for me to fully toggle all two different modes. Also, when I get really loud at my gym, Adaptive audio doesn’t fully kick in noise cancellation mode so I still hear some of the background noise. That does annoy me still. Just my two cents here.

[@e39lwd]

Google's looks to finally have momentum with this Pixel launch. I literally had a non tech person at work ask me about it and she ended up pre ordering an 8 Pro. As someone who's never seen a Pixel in the wild (in the Netherlands) that seems like a huge deal to me.

[@StigguLePetit]

Same here in Switzerland! And Pixels are just now the first time officially sold by gogle here.

[@posthumanlife]

Haha same in the Netherlands, collegue asked and just bought the 7 (that I have) I pre-ordered the 8 pro because I shattered this one 😅

[@MusicMonkey5555]

18:04 David, look into Oura ring. I love mine. I use it more for sleep tracking than fitness, but it's minimal, great battery life. I love it. It's picked up bike rides and jumping on the trampoline with my kids as well as helping with soccer practice/scrimmage for my son. And their stats on fitness seem accurate.

[@CaseyDarwin]

With the 7 years of updates, one thing that I haven't heard discussed yet is how it will affect resale value. I think this is one of the reasons that iPhones hold their value so well is because they have a reputation for such long support windows.

[@whatsgoodmyguy4391]

No it's because iPhones software is limited so the hardware doesn't matter

[@nikhildevani5938]

Or maybe because Iphones held the reputation of being the goto premium devices , their phones don't get a massive discount after a year of release plus the hardware holds better (except titanium ones).

[@eomoran]

No. Support is a huge aspect of it. Them never going on sale is another aspect. Them being the only ones to do iOS is kinda meaningless. A crappy phone with no support that does iOS wouldn’t have any resale value, and wouldn’t undercut the market for iPhones either.

[@whatsgoodmyguy4391]

@@eomoran Dude they are on sale all the time free iPhone with service which proves they are struggling to sell these phones..people are tired of paying for incremental upgrades

[@whatsgoodmyguy4391]

@@nikhildevani5938 No it doesn't. That's up to the user. They don't hold value either go ahead and trade last years iPhone for this year and see what Apple gives you for it.

[@Joey-dl6nm]

Please never stop making waveform I love this

[@jkid323]

@2:48 Oh you mean the feature the Galaxy Buds had before Apple cool story ...

[@A7ZATRU]

32:59 I want to know what was funny when Marques started the ad read, managed to get through it like a pro🤣

[@hemanthreddy4765]

“Horse in a room full of henry fords” my new fav line😂

[@don.wall_E]

Always looking forward to Fridays just to watch this lovely podcast!

[@XMorbius]

The WVFRM theme makes my Friday mornings!

[@danieldwiggins4225]

PetaPixel uploaded a video/podcast where they speak to Isaac Reynolds, the guy who David mentioned. Really cool info on the new camera systems, including video boost and night sight for video for anyone interested!

[@RomitHeerani]

The Google summary thing actually works similar to the arc browser thing sometimes unless this new feature is somehow different from the insights feature in the Google app

[@comfysage]

probably the biggest difference is that google summary uses Bard to summarise the article into concise sections making it easier to scan

[@AndrewKarstaedt]

The big determination between smartwatch and activity trackers (a la Fitbit) is battery life. Looked into the Sense vs Pixel Watch 1 last year for my wife, and the feature set of the watch vs the sense was wildly out of proportion, and the Sense had a multi-day battery life. It was a no-brainer.

[@godminnette2]

I am a tech enthusiast that uses a fitness band, the versa 3, instead of a smartwatch. I used to have a smartwatch. But I found that they usually just offered me features I never used while having worse battery life. The versa 3 can straight up last me a week without charging. Even if I just charge it during 10-15m showers, it will never run out of battery, meaning I can have it track all of my steps and my sleep. It serves as my alarm in the morning by vibrating my wrist when I'm in the lightest phase of sleep, it gives me very select notifications (too many is annoying and distracting, and answering anything on a watch is silly because it will always be quicker and easier to pull out my phone), and has Google Assistant still.

[@RangerGSD]

Agreed on all points - battery, charge in shower, sleep alarm, only notifications I have is for phone calls. I really like the Versa but every Fitbit I've had only last 1 year and 1 week, just outside the warranty. And customer service is no help.

[@CaseyDarwin]

The pro also has UWB which will be a more significant differentiator when Google's new find network debuts.

[@kentaro2121]

Contribution to the initial headphone topic: I often wear my AirPods Pro 2 at work to listen to music and audiobooks. One additional reason I started using them is to mitigate the high-pitched noise emitted by fluorescent lights. There are moments when I'm not actively listening to anything, but I keep them on solely for this purpose. The transparency mode is incredibly useful since it allows me to remain aware of my surroundings. Even when someone approaches me and starts a conversation, I can respond without any issues. and idk if people are annoyed, but lot of people around me are doing too that I think it is becoming normal. lol

[@shayy__]

glad to see marques's ai programming improve, he's so much more human!

[@carlosmiguel4756]

@36:12 No, the Oppo Find X6 Pro does 2500nits and Xiaomi 13 Ultra does 2600nits.

[@leri7222]

I actually didn’t like this pod when it first started but it’s really grown on me lol I think the video definitely helped 👍🏾

[@brianbigley4643]

1:08

[@IILORIMERII]

Fridays made ever better with a new waveform podcast - thanks to all you guys for making such great episodes!

[@PinchOfLuck]

You forgot in the differences between 8 and 8 PRO, that 8 PRO screen has LTPO 1 - 120 Hz, and the 8 does not. On top of being 400 nits brighter and bigger. I mean, its a worthwhile upgrade.

[@ffrreeaakk]

What are you talking about at 1:06:26? I couldn't find it on youtube.

[@ChloeC664]

I could literally listen to you guys all day!

[@DE0BIZONE]

i just cackled so loud at david saying "it was like, heath ledger.....wait is he dead?"

[@andrewlivermont5702]

I’m listening to this on the day of my wedding to help calm my nerves love you guys from the podcast to the videos!

[@M4Kx3]

I noticed when David talks about Bluetooth distortion his voice also went mermermermer 8:26 cool touch!

[@godminnette2]

A very tiny issue with changing from "Hey Google" is that, IIRC, their original generation smarthome speakers were advertised as having one low-power chip that just listens for "Hey Google," and this chip activates the main listening chip of the board. They advertised this first chip as not being able to have its firmware changed via internet, so it will always only listen for "Hey Google," and can't like, spy on you. I don't know if they still do that; I mean, we all have phones now that don't have dedicated chips to only listen for keywords, and those mics could just be recording whenever. But if they did that for multiple generations of smarthome speakers, then people who want to change it will still have to resort to "Hey Google" for their Google Homes and whatever.

[@dirgeofthedawn]

Very much appreciating the censor at 21:50ish lol, thank you for not activating all my google services 😂

[@mattrickey2222]

I got the official Pixel Buds Pro update and I was actually shocked how quickly it could detect my voice. I was under the impression it would take some time to activate, but it was really fast.

[@mattrickey2222]

Just tested this feature. Not scientific, but with a stop watch it was .80 of a second to switch. Less than one second makes this very useful.

[@hassanalusi3]

The photo face swap was a BlackBerry camera feature, and it worked really well.

[@better.better]

re: Bard/AI improving usability, lowering the barrier to entry. I remember sitting in a Dunkin once, and there was this guy comes in trying to use voice commands to get directions to whatever business he was trying to go to, and he kept repeating the SAME EXACT phrase, like 20 times, and he wasn't even like he was changing his tonality or inflection hoping it would interpret it different or hearing it wrong, he was saying the same words the same exact way, as if somehow Google Assistant was going to magically figure out what he meant.

[@dalast1woke]

Did he try the feature on the bud2pro??? U can trigger the delay 3:44

[@BatoolZainabSuleman]

Is the four panel display at the slow clap scene on purpose? 1:07:05

[@efficientapp]

23:32 - Arc Max AI feature callout, woop woop! Marques warming up more and more to Arc 🔥

[@Sbrnsandy]

my fridays don’t start till the pod is uploaded

[@mommyofceos]

I just want this podcast out by 9 am. That's it. That's all. ❤

[@Manganellia1]

It's always available in audio format by 4am EST!

[@shmchuck]

Google said 7 years of software updates and then announced that they will release the update "when it's ready" and not based on regular schedule.

[@benochibenocho]

Not everyone who has the pixel buds pro gets the new updates. I didn't get them yet. I'm not sure if that's a normal delay or if they are only available to pixel 6, 6p, 7, and 7p like spatial audio. Mine is 6a.

[@Czurnabog]

Between the gaps in memory and his 80s sensibilities about what it means to use tech in the modern age, Andrew still manages to be the boomer of the WVFRM crew

[@xjourner]

Haha Daad!

[@EricDejuanOOO]

The Pixel no longer capture photos, it makes them.

[@kevinkarthik3329]

haha putting this in the background while working or running on a treadmill is such a good pass time !!

[@Tdevelops]

Friday has officially begun 🔥

[@RangerGSD]

Macro was added to the 8 this year. 8 pro is supposed to have improved macro.

[@simplemindedmoron]

Pixel 15 won't have a camera... It'll generate images... with bard.....

[@griegomas]

8 pro ultra wide is a larger sensor with a faster lens - we'll see how it shakes out, but it should produce much better images than the 8. Tele lens also went from f3.5 to f2.8 - will still be diffraction limited with a 1/2.5 sensor, but images should be sharper.

[@price.gaines]

I’ve been using the WF1000XM4s and just upgraded to the XM5s. A while back they added a speak to chat feature where it will pause your media and turn transparency mode all the way up in Voice priority mode immediately when you start talking, and it works great. I like it bc I can program the left earbud tap to toggle a less aggressive transparency mode but still have the full on voice priority mode when I start talking.

[@midnight_yota]

I too have that conundrum where I wanna wear my analog automatic watch cuz I love the way it looks but then I miss the fitness info and also the quick notifications, and Google assistant sometimes.

[@marcorl100]

Since I got my first (and hopefully last) iphone (14 pro Max), I can't wait to go back to Android. And for some reason this Pixel is making me so hyped. I'm probably going to wait for the Galaxy S24 ultra just to make sure, but the Pixel 8 Pro seems to sum up really well what I miss the most on an Android phone.

[@ace0341]

Google started clear calling (noise cancelation with the Pixel 7 last year not the pixel 8. I thought Apple only added their version of clear calling with the phone 15 series or iOS 17

[@PinchOfLuck]

Regrading Google going AI mode and OK hardware. I would say "Work smarter, Not harder" is in effect. And Google Pixel is smart indeed.

[@Digmans]

Thanks guys

[@jeffer1101]

I ordered a couple of Pixel Pro units after watching Marques' initial look video. I'm not one to buy the latest and greatest phones and buying an expensive phone like this was tough for me to swallow, but I think I will be happy with it. I'm not interesting in the "best camera" or "best gaming phone", etc. I just want something that works well, gets updates for a long time (since I like to keep my products for a long time), has a nice screen and isn't plagued with issues. The new Pixel line up seems do all of that.

[@gavinmoss3653]

I use call screening all the time. I find robo calls hang up after the assistant is done, but business calling stay on.

[@bashbifaananyi3136]

Almost missed the post-credits😂😂😂. Congs David on that mix n match

[@fecorekasi]

I'm buying the PRO because of telephoto, but I would like to have the SMALLER one

[@Junker_God]

I'm in highschool and I love listening to the waveform podcast while I do my homework at home

[@bobenchorben]

Nice one on muting 'Hey google'. Very thoughtful.

[@zoide-777]

When is your full review of the Pixel 8 Pro coming out?

[@BigBallBearingturBo]

These episodes coming out are my most productive work days. Adaptive nice cancellation never works right. It activates when you don't want it to; Takes to long to activate when you need it; and with Samsung it only works if you're talking. So it'll start music back up in the middle of a conversation just because you haven't had a chance to respond

[@temjenwapang6243]

Will the new camera software be available for the older models?

[@auroragb]

I hope they can customize the "google assistant" to something more human feeling like "Marquez's assitant". It can be a setting where it defaults to "google assistant" but gives you some options that you can opt in

[@sinnwalker]

I mean eventually we're all gonna have our own personalized assistants/companions. But still some time before that, not too long tho.

[@MylesKillis]

You should watch the black mirror episode like this

[@sinnwalker]

@@MylesKillis Most black mirror episodes are more alternate realities than possible futures, they aren't very plausible in this reality.

[@wininhearts]

On Pixel 8, the ultrawide camera is updated to include autofocus, which brings Macro Focus outside our Pro series for the first time. Pixel 8 does it have macro as Google claims

[@jaqenhghar6996]

This is the best podcast regardless of subject matter covered!

[@Habitual_mufn]

Will any of the new pixelbuds additions mean anything if you're using them on an iPhone?

[@dolphin7961]

For someone who's "not good at sarcasm", you've nailed it for the last several intros

[@pforpramit]

What about the under-display fingerprint sensor this time? Is it ultrasonic now or still that same old optical one?

[@mirzarizwanbaig9449]

37:12 *Small Correction* Standard Pixel 8 can do Macro now ❤

[@Sok.mp4]

Pixel 7 disappointed me so much that I won't buy the Pixel 8. I couldn't pick up calls sometimes and it sometimes disconnect to the Internet. I switched to the S23 and all the problems went away.

[@JosefTorkelsen]

For the photo, my problem is if you don’t hand the phone to a stranger to take a photo but a family member takes a photo and then hands it to another member to take a photo to get the missing member. I wish we can paste in the missing person from the other photo.

[@Chris1511]

27:42 I assume the delayed release of features is also partly to create another wave of hype months after the release

[@jamesdials13]

Will super wide band Bluetooth work on Sony headphones or only pixel buds ?? How about clear calling etc other features they mentioned on pixel buds if I have m4/m5 do those features still help?

[@manavmodi3696]

22:35 why did you guys bleep hey google?

[@charleslaferriere2282]

David's T-shirt is gonna be my sun in this cloudy day haha

[@xxgg]

What if you actually want to hear the background noise? To figure out where the other person may be at? Hope there is a ON/OFF trigger with option to set which is default.

[@VaalkinTheOnly]

Does it feel like more and more software companies are making hardware to compete?

[@xsmockjrx]

I'm definitely getting the 8pro, I feel like the added features are worth and plus bigger is better to an extent

[@joesaysstuff5802]

What brand of shirts does marques wear? The black one?

[@amshashankk.design]

For video boost, Google is uploading it to cloud because they want to train their model more and more so that they can later bring this in their next phone with offline service.

[@Bibbatron]

They will of course do that but the actual reason is it's too CPU intensive right now. A 30 minute 4k60fps videos will take like a day to process. If I were to guess 2025 would be the year we get on device Video boost. CPU will be a lot faster and the HDR+ algorithm will be more efficient.

[@wavesnowaves]

Concentrating on software AI and fixing in post, allows them to have more control and less dependency on hardware suppliers.

[@ioriflameheart3744]

so for video boost, I would need to transfer huge files over data? sounds expensive.... unless they allow storing temporarily like the updates (where you can tell the phone to only update via wifi)

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

36:30 Don't confuse HDR peak brightness with HBM (High Brightness Mode) which kicks in when you turn on Auto Brightness and go outside in bright sunlight. Pixel 8 Pro has a HBM of 1600 nits outdoors in bright sunlight and 2400 nits of peak brightness for HDR videos. Oppo Find X6 Pro has a HBM of 1500 nits outdoors in bright sunlight and 2500 nits of peak brightness for HDR videos.

[@monochrome.flourish]

5:09 i guess the best feature would be that the headphones automatically pause the music when you take it off. i dont know if headphones already have that, it feels like they should have

[@aaroncheatwood1]

The telephoto is the thing I really wanted, over several years of use, the cost will be worth it to me to see my kids better during their activities. Macro, a plus. 12GB, another plus. 7 years updates, huge.

[@ChilledVersion]

18:22 You can see Andrew's nasty ass mind work after David's sentence

[@prathisahrudh]

I wish OS makers just ship AI improvements just as a DLC pack for free instead of adding it to hardware like bloatware

[@hellofranky99]

I'm completely confused why there is a temperature sensor on the 8Pro.