Xiaomi has never claimed that their upcoming car model can achieve a range of 1200 km. If you've watched their launch event, they only mentioned that their platform theoretically allows for a maximum battery capacity of 150 kWh, which is equivalent to a 1200 km range. However, this 1200 km figure is purely hypothetical. Specifically for the Su7 model, it currently offers versions with a 73.6 kWh battery providing a range of 668 km and a 101 kWh battery offering an 800 km range. Moreover, these are figures for the single-motor version; if it's the dual-motor version, the range would be reduced to 628 km and 750 km. Regarding the motor, the mentioned 35,000 RPM is only a peak value obtained in a lab setting without considering durability, and it has never been a focal point of Xiaomi's promotion. For the upcoming car models, Xiaomi provides options with 27,200 RPM, 578 PS (referred to as v8s, expected to launch in 2025), and 21,000 RPM, 374 PS (referred to as v6s, expected to launch this year). These figures sound much more reasonable. I bet they haven't actually watched Xiaomi's launch event or reviewed official posters and content. Instead, they seem to rely on exaggerated rumors for attention. If you have watched the event, you wouldn't confuse these imaginary data with production cars; it's quite funny. The Su7 has already been approved by China's Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT). MIIT approval is a stringent criterion in China, and all approved models inevitably go into production because it signifies passing range tests, collision tests, compliance with emission regulations, and high costs-things that concept cars don't need to bother with. Xiaomi Su7's launch in 2024 is a 100% certainty. If you're genuinely interested in Chinese EVs and not just venting on KZbin, I recommend following a KZbinr called "Telescope望远镜" He provides a lot of genuine information about cutting-edge Chinese EVs, caters to international audiences by explaining in English, and emphasizes key points with international cognitive differences.
@hyderabadutube8 ай бұрын
100% agree with you. They haven't watched launch event for sure. They don't even know Xiaomi already said it will support apple car play. They just relied on false rumors and made 13 min conversation around it They keep saying standard range 500 Mi where as RWD Xiaomi quotes 668 KM.. Completely misleading information by hosts. Typical American ignorance
@fyp12018 ай бұрын
What do you expect from American media though?. Every time Chinese stuff come up they'll be like "yeah, it's chaayyynnnaaaahhhh". What they don't understand, it's always start like that and suddenly it's coming and is good and they'll act like nothing happened in the past they just go on.
@wcsun50508 ай бұрын
this is ture
8 ай бұрын
Yeah, Marques based his entire argument on the mileage.
@ethanlinderman88338 ай бұрын
Stuff like this always happens when these guys try to talk about cars. I hate to be a gate keeper, but it cringes me out every single time. Either get some knowledge about the automotive space before you talk about it, or don't bring it up at all on the podcast. The quasi-car talk is half hearted at best and frustratingly bad at worst. Also, daily reminder for Marques that Taycan rhymes with Icon. Its literally on Porsche's own KZbin.
@Guerreropowerr8 ай бұрын
so good to see mariah behind the controls. well-deserved break for ellis and adam. love you guys
@Kevon4208 ай бұрын
yeah mariah is based as hell.
@PerveensinghPerveensingh-lw3pt8 ай бұрын
Like❤🎉😂😢😮😅😊
@keyser19758 ай бұрын
She a bit stricter than the men which is good
@Extra_Extra_8 ай бұрын
Keep her on the show permanently
@enchantedplays78608 ай бұрын
@@keyser1975?
@barylmandrillen8 ай бұрын
Remember to quote and link your source "Telescope" when you use his material. Quite a number of factual errors, suggest to redo your show - or at least upload layover corrections! Next time maybe watch the Xiaomi press event?
@barylmandrillen8 ай бұрын
Link to Telescope: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4SVnYt4qpqJkJIsi=8GdK--mGOMiVQzKz
@Abdullah_Talha5 ай бұрын
im quite surprised by this mistake from MKBHD. didn't expect him to be this unprofessional.
@hakuhyo1748 ай бұрын
Xiaomi SU7’s range is CLTC number and times that by 0.7 you will get EPA number. So it’s not 500mi but 350mi-ish for 74kWh which is doable with structural battery / CTB tech. Zeekr 007 has similar spec - 75kWh battery, ~340 converted EPA mi, starting price of $29k and is ALREADY SHIPPING. So yeah, it’s like 99% coming out but spec isn’t as ridiculous as you guys think it is.
@yucao67428 ай бұрын
@TomXander6 ай бұрын
Funny how the Xiaomi EV turned out to be quite real and a major game changer in the industry in all senses. They gave us what they promised. I love how Marcus is so set on not considering anything other than Tesla and Porche as competition or even good EVs. Maybe his friendship with Elon is a bit too, marketing related and don't wanna cut that up by saying anything good about Xiaomi I guess lol
@zy4208061436 ай бұрын
this car is officially released
@pttzty8 ай бұрын
Clarify: the 750 mi is for the to-be-released 150kwh from CATL (NIO already uses that), and the 500 mi one is the 101kwh that they are shipping this year. There would be a base version as well for ~75kwh. All those numbers are Chinese CLTC based numbers, which would be 15% higher than EAP or WLTP used in EU or US. So when they say 500 mi, they mean 420 mi in EAP in the US. (China has a different mix of highway and local). The thing is the price, the current consensus is $30k for 75kwh one, $35K for 100kwh one. no where near $55k, it's impossible to sell that price in China with the segment of customers they are targeting. The charging is legit as there are already car companies in China (Li auto) with the actual video showing 520kw peak charging for more than 7 minutes, but yeah you need specialized super charging stations as regulars are still 350 or 250kw. Either way, way more choices in China compared to US where the only viable option is Tesla and they haven't really refreshed for 4 years.
@Mor_timer8 ай бұрын
Mariah being the producer is the highlight of this episode ❤
@exempli6468 ай бұрын
really?
@JoeOklahoma8 ай бұрын
She rocked it
@ChristianAntley8 ай бұрын
Agreed ❤
@weipei27215 ай бұрын
Hello boys, I just want to tell you, THE car was officailly released.🤗
@weipei27215 ай бұрын
@WVFRM Podcast see here!!
@もりさまー-g8i5 ай бұрын
It's absolutely hilarious to look back on what he said lmao
@ericmackey138 ай бұрын
Mariah behind the controls! Love to see it
@simonvutov75758 ай бұрын
Women ☕️
@Rockardo_8 ай бұрын
@@simonvutov7575 losers ☕
@StaticOz_8 ай бұрын
@@simonvutov7575 cringe
@stpr168 ай бұрын
@@simonvutov7575grow up and change as a person lil bro
@mosgnz8 ай бұрын
If you're wondering about the crawfish fact, here's something to solve your confusion. When it says double the size, It probably means double in volume. Which means approximately cube root of 2 (or 1.26 ) times the original length. Because the length is directly proportional to the cube root of volume. So a 1cm crawfish could grow to 40cm by calculation.
@piraka_mistika8 ай бұрын
32 cm, no?
@christianurban8 ай бұрын
Hey guys, one hint regarding the range of Chinese EV. Their range is measured using the NEDC (a test procedure). This procedure has a very low average speed and only requires very weak acceleration. Therefore the values for the electric consumption (and the resulting range) are really good. If you‘d test any European or American EV with this test cycle, the range based on that test cycle would also be much higher than the EPA range. To sum it up, if a EV is announced in China for the Chinese market, don’t compare that range figure to the EPA ranges you are used to, since they are based on to completely different test procedures. It would be like comparing you phones battery life in a processor benchmark test to the phones battery life playing on-device 30 fps video.
@ydorni59238 ай бұрын
Honestly Maria is the perfect fit whenever one of the other five isn’t present. Her voice is a really nice switch up
@evynfife76038 ай бұрын
Great idea I second this
@bluedinnerbox13708 ай бұрын
The reason why the range looks very long is probably xiaomi uses China’s CLTC standard for testing, which tends to have higher numbers than epa. For example, on Tesla China’s website, the model s shown in the podcast has 715km/444 mi CLTC range instead of 405 in EPA
@charlesdamien58498 ай бұрын
I love what Ellis did what his hair this week.
@Idefilms8 ай бұрын
Nothing like them throwing to trivia and you see that there's still 14 minutes left in the podcast 😄 Loved it
@galihmukti8 ай бұрын
34:12 You don't know about BYD, do you?
@dragsteraa8 ай бұрын
They don't know $hit about anything outside of US I guess 😀
@galihmukti8 ай бұрын
@@dragsteraa well, I guess so
@ritik_ghanshani8 ай бұрын
20:10 Missed opportunity to call it Galaxy brain
@stefanconstantinescu15768 ай бұрын
Do your homework Say the source
@Idefilms8 ай бұрын
If the crawfish was 1 cm across in its first iteration, it would actually be 320 metres, which is even more wild 😄
@ExclamationMarx8 ай бұрын
Marques not knowing how the metric system works lmao
@ToppyTree8 ай бұрын
unless it's doubling in volume and would only be 32 cm long
@Idefilms8 ай бұрын
@@ToppyTree Oh, of course! That must be it. Well realized.
@Sb9008 ай бұрын
Americans struggling with the metric system... But it's cute that they tried😁
@MusicFillsTheQuiet8 ай бұрын
"it's exponential growth!" Yes, but volume increases cubicly. So, not so scary
@azizaja82558 ай бұрын
Just watched the original response video from Telescope about the Xiaomi car, I know and totally understand you guys Americans don't get much exposure to Chinese or asian gadget/car brands which is totally not your fault, but I think you guys are just perpetuating the stereotype that Americans are just a bunch of ignorants with this comments. Like the lack of research is just surprising... from something big channel like MKBHD... like guys I expect more from you and the most mind-blowing thing is you guys don't even bother to give the original source of the video you're using, no caption or link at the description at all (29 Jan at 00:44 AM in GMT+7)... I can say I'm really disappointed with you all
@jmunt8 ай бұрын
the "doubling" is probably doubling mass/volume. Any shape (if remaining to scale) only needs to grow about 26% in length in order to double in volume (a 1x1x1 cube has a volume of 1, whereas 1.26x1.26x1.26 is ~2). SO, that means if you multiply your length by 32.5, your volume will multiply by a bit over 34,000. Babies only around 3-5 mm after the larvae stage, so that means you only need to get to a length of 10-16 cm to be 34,000x bigger in total volume
@ErikWithakay8 ай бұрын
Mariah killed it as producer this week! Another great episode :)
@tomgong63498 ай бұрын
Xiaomi SU7 range is in the standard of CLTC testing, for example Tesla Model Y long range awd on China's website states the range as 688km in CLTC standard which is equal to 427 miles.
@nakshatratyagi1548 ай бұрын
nothing makes me more happier than a wvfrm podcast.
@pr0adam8 ай бұрын
sus
@XeaLStorm8 ай бұрын
Carl Pei is so happy now :D
@nakshatratyagi1548 ай бұрын
@@pr0adamI'm secretly in love with David 😼.
@robinn71838 ай бұрын
The urge to hit like when count says 99....uhh make it a 100 please.
@yanniklemm41088 ай бұрын
Apteras trick is efficency. If your car uses very little energy in total, you can make the battery small and light and still achieve range. And because the battery pack is so small, the solar panels can actually give you 40 Miles a day of range just from parking in the sun. That is more than the average person in the US drives a day. All of that on 100% free energy from the sun. And you can still plug it in if you want to. It's a brilliant vehicle concept if you think about it.
@kevinscott86428 ай бұрын
Exactly. And I’m very much looking forward to driving mine when it hits the market later this year!
@Shawn_5065 ай бұрын
Why didn't you give credit to the original KZbin channel? Such a unprofessional move
@benjamin62618 ай бұрын
Thank you guys for the consistent uploads and dedication to covering such a variety of things. I’ve been having a horrible week and it’s so nice to have an hour of entertainment while also feeling the productivity of learning. ACTUALLY 2 HOURS!! Amazing
@hanwenxiong91775 ай бұрын
As a big blogger with more than a million followers, it is unacceptable that there will be information errors every time in the video, and the fact is that Su7 is not being delivered in a year or so, but has already begun to be delivered
@Stephen_Lafferty8 ай бұрын
Great to see Mariah on the podcast!
@64Audio8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the shout out 🙌 so glad you're enjoying Volür!
@lybeeeeei8 ай бұрын
29:39 There're some errors in the parameters of Xiaomi SU7. The 35000 RPM motor is still in the lab validation stage while the maximum speed of the V6s motor on the SU7 is 21000 rpm. And the range of 1200km is the upper limit of SU7's platform, I haven't heard any news about mass production.
@marioh56818 ай бұрын
I always liked Ellis and Adam but Honestly Mariah especially this being her first time that I can remember. She's a natural and amazing at producing I hope she does it a lot more
@djberzerk8 ай бұрын
Sounds like there's an unused live mic picking up the audio from everyone else's mic...or the gain on everyone's mic is set too high, picking up the audio from the person next to each mic. Probably knew this already and couldn't resolve this if the mics are all going to 1 input from a mixer...then again even if each mic was on its own input, if the gain was recorded too high from jump, it would be hard to get rid of that... especially when people are talking simultaneously. Used to deal with this issue all the time.
@kunchen32787 ай бұрын
its a tech vid. at least get you stats checked and quote your sources in the description
@KaleyDuke8 ай бұрын
great hosting Mariah! love those big ass headphones. also the audio was a little weird this ep
@IanZainea19908 ай бұрын
Mariah brings a good energy to the show. I think it might just be that the normal 5 of you have like... the same pitch of voice. So having a different pitch is refreshing lol
@joshua-staples8 ай бұрын
With the whole CarPlay thing, I think one thing that wasn’t discussed that’s pretty important is Siri support. Siri’s not great at everything, but home (and car?) automation it does a pretty good job with. If I don’t need to use digital or even physical buttons because I can have Siri change climate, or heated seats, or even open the garage door with Home integration….sign me up!
@keerthan75588 ай бұрын
You know it is kinda believable if Xiaomi announces an EV with 700miles of range. They were one of the first companies to come up with over 100w fast charging for smartphones smartphones , they probably have a decent knowledge and infrastructure for battery tech. They might pull off atleast 600miles imo
@asion098 ай бұрын
Ev batteries aren’t even close to phone batteries, if they were every phone company would be making ev’s. The difference between a phone batter and ev battery is just as big as the difference between a phone and a car.
@Robert-iu2ou8 ай бұрын
Tom scott’s “the greatest title sequence I’ve ever seen” is one of the most heartfelt tributes to media production i have ever seen. Hard to recommend enough!
@djgabedamoda8 ай бұрын
Keep Mariah on the show, her voice makes a balance to the podcast. Great way to start the year 🎉
@kashanasif94558 ай бұрын
It’s weird how there is sometimes audio errors, can someone please fix it?
@SterlingSanders8 ай бұрын
I have a 12” iPad Pro, iPhone 15” Pro Max, Samsung Flip4, M3 MacBook Pro, AMD Threadripper 32 Core Workstation, and a ton of other smart devices, and I think Tesla Software is on par with ALL of those. I do not understand this “Tesla has worse software ideology,” do these people not use Tesla’s regularly? Everything about the software in my Model X Plaid is top notch, error/glitch free, smooth, has most of the apps I would use in a car (except maybe Waze?), is fast, plays steam games, and integrates perfectly with the car hardware, iPhone app, and android app. I truely would love to hear them explain *exactly* what makes android or iOS better than Tesla’s OS. Very confusing.
@AWritersHusband8 ай бұрын
I'm interested to know what you guys don't like about One UI have you guys tried it recently? I feel like there are so many settings you can really make it whatever you want. I don't miss any of the features of Nova Launcher.
@aliciagilman4288 ай бұрын
I agree, one UI has gotten a lot better in recent years and you have a decent amount of customization, especially with Good Lock.
@hp6r8 ай бұрын
With Good Lock I feel every little aspect of it can be tailor maid to anybody's preference. I now have the 6x7 icons' drawer because display feels too large for less. Camera Assistant also allows me to force the use of the other lenses instead of the phone deciding to go to main camera if lightning is not perfect.
@waynemorton61208 ай бұрын
And they haven't got a clue what Bixby is used for. For routines and on-phone automation, it is fantastic!! As an Assistant (Siri/Google Assistant) it's meh, but it does so much more and isn't going anywhere despite what the panel states. Clueless on Samsung's OneUI software.
@onalethatarampogo3858 ай бұрын
Understanding what you guys were talking about on the intro is always intriguing and confusing, like a movie starting with the final act.
@Shocker998 ай бұрын
1:34:00 David, actually depending on where you are in the world depends on what is considered as a continent and therefore varies how many continents there are. If i remember correctly the range is something like 7-10. It's just like how some countries don't recognise another country as a separate country to some other country. So there is a varied number of countries in the world depending on where you're based too.
@godakartik81108 ай бұрын
im happy we have so many mariah fans here. se shd be on the panel or appear more often atleast in studio
@IamYuto8 ай бұрын
Mariah was such a great addition. But damn the first shot of her was so funny - she looks so small in this big wide shot 😂 I am a fan of her!
@AlexSchendel8 ай бұрын
Aptera is supposedly legally classified as an "autocycle". Supposedly that gives it all the benefits of a motorcycle (reduced insurance cost, only a license plate in the rear, etc.) but none of the drawbacks (required to wear a helmet, safety?, etc.) And on the topic of shipping, at least they have production intent builds rolling off the line, with volume manufacturing of their "BinC" (Body in Carbon).
@kevinscott86428 ай бұрын
Soon. They’re in the process of building the production-intent vehicles, which will be used for validation and testing over the next few months. At this point, there’s not much doubt they’ll make it to production, likely hitting the market later this year. To be clear, though it’s technically classified as an autocycle, the Aptera will for all intents and purposes function as a car. A two seater car with an exceptionally large cargo area in the back. I’m planning to get one and it’s going to be the perfect road trip car for me.
@AlexSchendel8 ай бұрын
@@kevinscott8642 Yeah... I already included everything you just said in my original comment.
@SpaceG958 ай бұрын
Is it just me or does Mariah have a excellent NPR /podcast voice. More Mariah Please
@yourstarlight8 ай бұрын
Hey @mkbhd just a correction on the bonus trivia question. You can actually find crayfish along the coast of South Africa in Cape Town. Cape Town is known for their crayfish industry. BTW love the podcast and loved seeing Mariah❤
@adit.ajikumar8 ай бұрын
Adam and Ellis look different today.
@Garythefireman668 ай бұрын
Shout out to Mariah for holding down the fort. Happy New Year!🎉
@rishi_sk8 ай бұрын
The 1200km variant is coming later as per Xiaomi's press release. It seems the 100kWH is rated for 800km of range. So it is possible.
@huohuasysu67098 ай бұрын
Xiaomi has never claimed that their upcoming car model can achieve a range of 1200 km. If you've watched their launch event, they only mentioned that their platform theoretically allows for a maximum battery capacity of 150 kWh, which is equivalent to a 1200 km range. However, this 1200 km figure is purely hypothetical. Specifically for the Su7 model, it currently offers versions with a 73.6 kWh battery providing a range of 668 km and a 101 kWh battery offering an 800 km range. Moreover, these are figures for the single-motor version; if it's the dual-motor version, the range would be reduced to 628 km and 750 km. Regarding the motor, the mentioned 35,000 RPM is only a peak value obtained in a lab setting without considering durability, and it has never been a focal point of Xiaomi's promotion. For the upcoming car models, Xiaomi provides options with 27,200 RPM, 578 PS (referred to as v8s, expected to launch in 2025), and 21,000 RPM, 374 PS (referred to as v6s, expected to launch this year). These figures sound much more reasonable. I bet they haven't actually watched Xiaomi's launch event or reviewed official posters and content. Instead, they seem to rely on exaggerated rumors for attention. If they have watched the event, they wiil find out that Su7 ACTUALLY SUPPORT CARPLAY; it's quite funny. The Su7 has already been approved by China's Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT). MIIT approval is a stringent criterion in China, and all approved models inevitably go into production because it signifies passing range tests, collision tests, compliance with emission regulations, and high costs-things that concept cars don't need to bother with. Xiaomi Su7's launch in 2024 is a 100% certainty. If you're genuinely interested in Chinese EVs and not just venting on KZbin, I recommend following a KZbinr called "Telescope." He provides a lot of genuine information about cutting-edge Chinese EVs, caters to international audiences by explaining in English, and emphasizes key points with international cognitive differences.
@DC-yh2oy8 ай бұрын
Regarding Xiaomi car range, it's stating range using the unrealistic CLTC standard which is about 35% higher than an EPA rating. So the Model 3 CLTC rating would be about 452 (333x1.35) miles. If the SU7 has slow acceleration I think it could reach 500 miles of range but it would be similar to a Model 3 driven gently.
@hakuhyo1748 ай бұрын
Underlying in-lab drive cycle measurement is pretty similar between EPA, CLTC, NEDC and WLTP… but EPA literally ask OEMs to multiply that number by 0.7 and then weighted for highway (55%) and city (45%) 😑
@DC-yh2oy8 ай бұрын
So in the end, basically what I said.
@chaosjunks18 ай бұрын
A “change this smartphone setting” competition would make a fun studio video.
@themikereda8 ай бұрын
RIP Tom Scott. He's still alive, but at least he gets to rest now.
@DJReflect8 ай бұрын
26:35 Andrew, did I hear a "supposively" in there? You need to reel that in my guy.
@kelex128 ай бұрын
My favorite tech of 2023 by far is the Meta Quest 3. It may even be my favorite tech of all time. It's my first VR headset and I'm absolutely blown away by the experience. It's not perfect and could use some minor improvements but overall I think it is amazing.
@texa8 ай бұрын
That mattress topper sounded cool(hehe) then you shared the price...and then the fact that it's got a subscription model...and my money cowered back into my wallet.
@robertt98258 ай бұрын
2500 dollars plus a subscription is just nutty
@SachinInderSharma8 ай бұрын
We acting like Marques won't drop the "I've been using the S24 Ultra for a couple weeks now" on Jan 17 😂
@antononononon8 ай бұрын
We need more Mariah! She def brought a really nice pace to the pod
@mattjgraham8 ай бұрын
Happy New Year guys. Looking forward to all the great content in 2024
@none_the_less8 ай бұрын
Matt!
@PlayShorts38 ай бұрын
I wish one of you guys watched the Xiaomi SU7 launch, they never said it will have a 1200km range. I think you should watch part of the launch if you can't watch all of it. This conversation was like just shooting in the water hoping to hit some fish.
@CrazyBillization5 ай бұрын
The xiaomi car is real man,wake up.
@BrianOstrovsky18 ай бұрын
Thinking about your comments about car play and physical buttons. How interesting would it be for the manufacturer to put the equivalent of a stream deck button matrix so you can map functions to physical buttons? You could remap on your phone and the manufacturer could control the degree of "mod-ability" available. Might be a good middle ground.
@AnantMall8 ай бұрын
Great idea!
@jacobperez89218 ай бұрын
Who else is excited for the S24 series? As someone who is seeing almost everyone in my family upgrading to an iphone 14 or 15 series, i am one of the very few who actually uses an Android especially a Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra. I can't wait to see how the S24 Ultra turns out. Flat screens would be amazing this year.
@brando34248 ай бұрын
i still have my s22 ultra. im unsure about the s24 ultra because of that flat display
@experimental_av8 ай бұрын
US based takes on EVs are missing out on so much, it's pretty comical. If you don't have someone based in Asia on board then what are you even doing? There is os much more then Rivian and Tesla and if you don't understand that you have no clue what's coming.
@GeorgeWilkins8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the added visuals during trivia! Super helpful to have all the answers on screen after the question has been asked to then go back to the others and have a think about them. Really helped me play along.
@danseymour42218 ай бұрын
This desk is more used in the music community, but the Output Platform desk is one of the best purchases I've made. The desk is super sturdy, looks dope to me, and has nice cable management. They also have all of their specs online for anyone who would want to save money and make their own.
@FraxVisuals8 ай бұрын
Audio issues?
@20motu088 ай бұрын
This is crazy, I commented just a few days ago that it would be great to see new faces on the show, for example Mariah - and here she is! ✌️😀
@SLiX-thatguy11m-8 ай бұрын
Reason I went for the S23+ over the S23U was the flatter screen. Hopefully the S24U really does go full flat. I'd also never buy a new car without Android Auto and Apple Carplay, or at the very least an Android Head Unit.
@nickhalman978 ай бұрын
Marques talking about s24 ultra leaks, we know damn well he has one in his pocket already
@Dk-qf8dd8 ай бұрын
Bed sounds cool but I will stick with my Tempurpedic. Love that mattress and sleep is awesome. No matter when I crash 😂
@vigneshsuresh25748 ай бұрын
Ok, I really like that you guys had a discussion about software for autos but I must say couple of things were missed in my opinion. As someone that works in automotive you need to understand what the majority of auto manufacturers do - it’s called catalog engineering. Here the company like ford will go to different vendors for different parts and assemble a car. Since there is no communication between those manufacturers, all the parts run different control software that don’t talk to each other. So for someone like apple to come in and do a software that would basically be better than the best out there is extremely difficult. Tesla in my opinion has the best software today and it is because they make the hardware and the software in house i.e. vertically integrated. This is exactly like android vs iOS, Tesla software is iOS where it runs on one piece of hardware and CarPlay 2 will be android that will have to run on 100 different hardwares. I think if you really need the absolute best integration with apple, apple needs to make their own car.
@canotfind_7 ай бұрын
SU in xiaomi SU7 refers to 粟/sù/ which is the Chinese charater of Xiaomi in short (refering to the "millet and rice")
@JoshuaOlujide8 ай бұрын
Samsung could low-key one-up Google by having a bunch of new AI photo features process on device, since the latest pixels need to have the photos backed up to the cloud and connected to the Internet for some of their features
@themisfire18 ай бұрын
A little diaapointed with this one. Aptera is one of the few electric car companies that might actually make it. F1 style body (modular), self repairable, long range, ultra lightweight, etc etc. and reasonable claims for the solar (40 miles of range per day which sounds liek alot but not if its only a few KW needed for that 40 miles
@kevinscott86428 ай бұрын
Agreed - I really like these guys but they clearly haven’t taken the time yet to seriously look at Aptera. I’m hoping they’ll keep an open mind because I think when they do they’ll be blown away by it. I would *really* love to see Marquez do a review when the production-intent vehicles are built in a few months.
@shilvock228 ай бұрын
@@kevinscott8642 couldn't agree more, can't believe how dismissive and ignorant all three of the gentlemen showed themselves to be about the most innovative auto company since Tesla. I might understand if it was some random company from China, but when it's in our own back yard it's rather inexcusable.
@godminnette28 ай бұрын
There's an odd reverb to Marques' voice this week. Edit: It's everyone! Just the most noticeable with Marques.
@benwilliams12678 ай бұрын
I’m guessing Adam and Ellis need to show Mariah the exact settings they tend to use, (assuming it’s something to do with the live setup and not post production or KZbin changing their audio compression)
@Fronic-r2e8 ай бұрын
I love Arc browser as well. Tried switching to other browser, keep coming back to Arc.
@mrmariusi8 ай бұрын
Regarding physical versus touchscreen buttons: the smarter the car, the fewer physical buttons are needed. Examples from the Tesla I drive: when I'm changing lanes, the turn signal turns off automatically after I finish the maneuver; automatic long/short lights, which initially drove me mad, now work more than decent, and so on. Reliable vocal commands are also helpful: "Set passenger temperature to 22" while pressing the scroll wheel, while taking a bit longer, is more comfortable to me than looking and rotating the knobs in the other cars I drive. The intuitiveness of the interface is also extremely important. To me, the Tesla interface, while not perfect, it's the best I used, it improved a lot with the frequent software updates and I guess the improvements will continue. There are some things that I'm still unhappy with, like a Chill/Sport button, because even though I can now long-press the scroll wheel to change, it takes too long for my taste. I might buy the S E X Y buttons kit after all.🙂
@mrmariusi8 ай бұрын
@@GH0STST4RSCR34M Smarter is very relevant. I take my eyes off the road less with my Tesla than with my ice car. And, when I have to take my eyes off the road, for example searching on Spotify, the Tesla autopilot gives me enough trust to do it. You're absolutely right about "the button behind multiple pages". In Tesla the interface is not only intuitive, it's fast and anything you want is easily accessible. When, occasionally, I drive a VW, if I want to put adaptive cruise control, I have to take my eyes off the road even if the buttons are physical🙂. "People hate Tesla's software" Are you sure? If true, how come the Tesla Model Y was the most sold car in the world in 2023?
@rabtecho8 ай бұрын
Happy New Year everyone! Hi Mariah, finally on the podcast 🙌
@mattc39228 ай бұрын
Moriah was my office favorite because of her OSRS desk mat. Then I got hyped when I saw the Sea Shanty 2 shirt. Then she hit them with a Runescape trivia question. Best episode yet!
@Arsalan_22108 ай бұрын
I downloaded the arc browser after listening to this podcast. I absolutely love it omg... it helps me manage and stay organise so easilyy!!
@chenyikuan_official6 ай бұрын
I thought Marques was professional... until he talks about something I'm familiar with. Terrible preparation for such a "casual" talk. Didn't seem to have done any homework for it.
@tylernpc8 ай бұрын
51:15 to be fair Mercedes has a surprisingly good UI. I would genuinely take the Mercedes UI over CarPlay.
@MrRantotthus8 ай бұрын
Working for Mercedes (focused on apps and head units, comm modules) I’d go for CarPlay😂
@tylernpc8 ай бұрын
@@MrRantotthus I mean to each their own I have a 2023 GLC and have access to both but CarPlay has never really done it for me honestly.
@nicoli84378 ай бұрын
Xiaomi claims the range figures based on the China Light-duty Vehicle Test Cycle (CLTC). CLTC Testing is usually more optimistic than the EPA and WLTP tests that are used in the US and Europe, respectively. This means that the CLTC range figures are often higher than the real-world range, As a rule of thumb, anticipate approximately 10-25% less range in real-world driving compared to CLTC figures.
@Dk-qf8dd8 ай бұрын
If a car manufacturer currently messes up the in car software, the biggest risk is it wont start. If Car Play ran the entire car, the biggest risk is a bug would kill you. Hmmm…..
@MaxBiragnet8 ай бұрын
Sound changed this time... 🤔.. thanks for another great episode!
@Franco-yo6vn8 ай бұрын
Love that you have an amazing backup as a producer! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@prestonlee73218 ай бұрын
actually Xiaomiev has already built their own factory and got ready for mass production. the 750-mile range model has a 150kwh battery pack, which has not been released yet.
@JordanBrinkman8 ай бұрын
I think it’s really interesting that car companies are on board with apple’s car play plans given the increasing importance of ux in the driving experience as a brand differentiator. If every car UX experience is the same, the manufacturer is losing a really important way to communicate their brand identity to their audience. Especially interested to see what traditional auto manufacturers do compared to newer ev companies, and how they integrate more niche features like performance suspension settings, seat massage settings, etc.
@masononemine17026 ай бұрын
Idiotic take on the car again. Do maybe 10 minutes of research again? The fact you dont know about Conversion rates for different country standards shows you know nothing about the automative industry.
@Todunsoetan8 ай бұрын
@55:07 One great possibility with having a greater integration with Android Auto or Apple Car Play and electric cars. Is now the navigation has real time battery SOC data, maybe even the ability to precondition the car. If Apple/Google Maps really tried with Trip planning for road trips. It means that most people don't have to use the rubbish trip planners than come on most non-tesla EVs. On top of that the maps will probably have the greatest source of charge station utilization, with public data + the data it gets from cars its connected to and knowing their plans etc. You would think Google maps has something like this in the works, atm I can search charging stations on google maps and it shows me how many people are there etc, but it would be perfect for it to be aware of my SOC and plan/change my route accordingly.
@jackham25498 ай бұрын
I think the issue with Software for cars is salary and level of interest for the programmer. Software companies pay better and include more interesting work than automotive can supply. I work in an industry that struggles getting good software programmers because of what salaries can be offered and work will be done.
@malterichert29278 ай бұрын
Take it from a German that there's actually loads of guys who'd love to work on something that's gonna be in a car, even in the IT industry. The salary point is probably closer to the truth and just reflects the lack of willingness to invest in good software that they already talked about
@yiweitan23818 ай бұрын
Xiaomi has already built their own factory to manufacture the SU7, the premium version they will sell this year is the SU7 Max with 500 miles range and 2.8 seconds for 0-100km/h acceleration. All Chinese medias believe it will start to sell around mid 2024. The predicted price is around 50k dollars, at this price you can get a cool design excellent performance and nice interior design, especially it still keep the physical bottoms for some common functions. Also you can find all the top configuration you want in this car like the air suspension and electric tail. For me it’s the best non-SUV car at this price in the Chinese market. I would call it the first Taycan for Chinese young people😊.
@neoqe6lb8 ай бұрын
Mariah needs to be a regular on this show. Good to hear her on the podcast!
@PhobiaDubstep8 ай бұрын
There’s some interesting phasing going on with your guys voices. Was this recorded in stereo then squished to mono in post?
@pleasantcrew8 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Their voices sound like someone pushed the fast forward button
@gagedesormeaux11498 ай бұрын
As someone who was born and raised in south Louisiana, it was pretty neat hearing y’all talk about crawfish on the podcast as it’s a staple of Cajun food where I am from. Fun fact: We measure how much crawfish we eat by pounds and not by the number of crawfish consumed.