Google: Breaking Laws and Killing Chromecasts

[@josekuriakosemanathara]

How to check if it's a Friday? - check the calendar ❌ - waveform just dropped a video ✅

[@just_mdd4]

🧠💯

[@araputrevor5103]

Yeah, i just keep checking everyday

[@mjmikaelson]

🔥🔥🔥

[@jangamnaveen154]

Big brains broa🛐

[@The_Silver_Lurker]

Except for when they drop a video on a Tuesday?

[@karankedia1413]

David: Hates on podcasts what put ads in between... Marques: Here's an ad.

[@fredrikjohansson]

I would definitely pay for a mkbhd membership if I could listen to the podcast ad free. I want to support them, and I don’t like ads.

[@renofumi28]

Andrew: Use chapter boys!

[@comfybaguette]

​@@fredrikjohansson If you don't care about video, Apple Podcasts is ad free and doesn't require a subscription

[@sherluk_homs]

@@renofumi28 Well, if you're out, listening to the podcast on headphones with ur phone in the pockets, its just an inconvenient annoyance to skip 3 minutes of ads.

[@ados8064]

I don't know why MKBHD doesn't join Floatplane!

[@tobeess]

David forgetting what AMD is should be top 10 best moments of the year. 🤣🤣

[@ClayMann]

Maybe he thought people were saying Intel and nvidia. Imagine finding out there's a whole other leading chip manufacturer that also services every major console... amd you're a tech journalist.

[@courtneykeeps]

Andrew turning to look at David was gold haha

[@coquequique250600]

​@@ClayMannit's even funnier if you consider AMD it's way bigger compared to intel now

[@Anthraxxxxx]

I have no clue what happened there, is he on drugs 😂

[@Kwezi_42]

“It’s crazy to talk to people who live in houses” 47:30

[@ErikWithakay]

The true millenial/Gen Z experience haha

[@the_crypter]

Just like me frfr 😭

[@Leanzazzy]

I've lived in a flat all my life

[@DiamondMaster115]

I wouldn't skip the integrations if they weren't Meta AI ads...

[@Osaaamaaa]

Ok buddy

[@chillandrelaxation2314]

They wouldn't keep the Mera ads if they weren't paying too much😂

[@just_mdd4]

@@chillandrelaxation2314 😝💯

[@Archeteo]

They also may be under contractual obligation to continue those advertisements.

[@JustyceGaming]

I don't even like basil

[@OldManGeezuz]

Happy Friday! Fyi but Arc/eArc is different from cec. eArc is for soundbar features like better lip syncing and higher bandwidth. It’s usually only on one labeled port. Cec is for controlling hdmi devices. Usually on all ports. Cheers!

[@xirxes]

ARC is literally just "Audio Return Channel" and it essentially is just that port is wired up to both send and receive S/PDIF audio signals, instead of just receive. HDMI audio is basically the same as coaxial/optical audio, with the exception of higher possible bandwidth.

[@GimmeTaxShelter]

Ellis would have know this 😂

[@esaedvik]

eARC is just more bandwidth, allowing support for uncompressed audio formats and Atmos. A newer version of ARC. Lipsync (or soundbars, since it also works with receivers) has nothing to do with it per se.

[@jeepdog5]

This was painful watching the stumble through this

[@just_mdd4]

- I think about the Waveform Podcast - I get a notification on my phone - 🤯

[@JustXavier]

So Meta 😅

[@saloksingh7]

mkbhd is in your walls

[@tomanicodin]

Pavlov's dog you are?

[@GimmeTaxShelter]

eARC and ARC are about controlling the sending the sound through HDMI (and lets you control it with your TV). Y’all are thinking of HDMI CEC (Consumer Electronics Control) which isn’t exclusive to ARC. Also some remotes (Fire TV for example) have an IR blaster that controls the TV, working essentially as a universal remote.

[@MrRyankellogg]

This! You can still have one remote and have a soundbar.

[@mattjgraham]

So happy to see the notification alert for the waveform! It's the weekend starter in the UK guys!! And of course, it starts with the awesome waveform :)

[@bjojosimpson]

Matt!!!

[@MichelBouman]

Netherlands here, so we’re in the same boat! Happy weekend

[@burnhamrobertp]

"Using a video to train an AI" and "watching the video" aren't even fundamentally the same thing. The commercial use of a video without license is a problem as old as time, the issue is that this is a new problem not yet well defined by the law.

[@xliquidflames]

13:37 Now, if someone could just do something about having to accept or reject cookies every single website I visit, we might have a somewhat usable web again.

[@world_machine]

In the meantime, there’s a Safari extension called Hush and an extension everywhere else called I Don’t Care About Cookies that removes the prompts (They only auto-accept though)

[@djvaatwasser]

You can install the 'I don't care about cookies ' extension for that.

[@mrabduh]

I'm glad that what artist suffer for few years from scraping their arts finally happening to other people so other people understand the struggle and the fights

[@jpk.mp3]

bro robert downey jr is 59 😂

[@Flor-ian]

Can’t wait till the AI hallucinates that my house got broken into while I’m at work

[@hikarikun42]

9:49 need a soundboard for this

[@MrBaskins2010]

31:45 THAT face is why we need marquees to learn about news stories in real time. he cant do his usual PR friendly reaction. and yes we listen to every integrated segment on waveform because fans love to hear yall talk. and the only thing you misplace in the studio (aside from lens caps) is time

[@Absquatulationist]

"Most of it has zero views" i feel personally attacked 😂

[@Tosin_Yusuf]

😂😂fr

[@chillandrelaxation2314]

Marquez is brutal lol😂😂

[@Tosin_Yusuf]

@@chillandrelaxation2314 istg😂

[@MichalBrat]

Guys, there are browser extensions that skip the integrated ads for you. They are free and work like magic. Parts that are to be skipped are crowdsourced, no AI needed.

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

*Laughs in KZbin ReVanced Extended with Sponsor Block* 🤣🤣🤣

[@jamesvella]

Came here to say the same thing, It already skipped the ads and sponsor sections in this video :D

[@Leanzazzy]

SponsorBlock

[@svgerd]

i really enjoyed that shopify ad segment! which i watch just like every ad segment on waveform! companies sure do make a smart decision when they sponsor waveform!

[@Waveform]

🫶

[@augustonunes6960]

Except for Meta Ai...

[@fostertomer4630]

To address the concerns about 2 remotes, the chromecast with Google TV and I believe the new Google TV streamer has IR in the remote, and you can have it set to directly control the volume of your soundbar. So you can have a set where the volume controls the soundbar, and the power controls the tv. No matter if your hdmi tv or cables support it

[@darknesswithin0]

This is first time we are have THREE ads in a row. Genius for a massive meta pun and this episode.

[@Mr.Fishward]

Libraries are “publicly available” but these companies aren’t scraping 80 books a day. Just because something is available to the public doesn’t make it free.

[@Fibonacci620]

have you heard of google books?

[@Mr.Fishward]

@@Fibonacci620 I’m confused what your point is? Google Books isn’t scraping hundreds of copyright material and posting them online for free. I imagine the texts that are available on their for free are public domain, have permission, or some other deal with the publisher. I don’t think Stephen King would be fine with having his novels put on the internet for free with no compensation.

[@gsm3gsm3]

Best way to listen to pods without inserted ads (not the integrated ones). Set your VPN to a country where Spotify is not successfully selling ads, play your pods and enjoy. I live in Peru and never listen to ads.

[@Scooby_Rogue]

David needs to have an MRI STAT

[@MichaelBTech]

Watching the Olympics or Playoff sports in multiview is the best experience. It makes it so much better than switching between channels on Google TV.

[@NerdSyncProductions]

Thank you for addressing the “what’s the difference between me watching videos and a company scraping data from those videos” bad faith argument people keep throwing out there.

[@srikanthsusarla3494]

Damnn!! You put 3 back to back ads after all that talk😂😂 Anyway I skipped those 3 and got to google 😅

[@sarahjulianne2954]

@30:00 - I do watch multiple things at once. I watch live video on the main TV, like the bears fishing at Katmai Park on KZbin, split with live video from the ISS on the ISS app. Then on a tablet I'll watch whatever else.

[@Arsalan_2210]

Heck I really don't skip the waveform ads cause they are actually interesting and useful and engaging. Feels like I'm listening to an extended version of the podcast anyway :D. And yeah I agree with David AI should help in skipping ads in podcasts lol. The irony was very funny! Love from India. My Fav Podcast!

[@alihani7231]

New waveform episode=instantly improving my day ❤🔥

[@abdulsharif9081]

I suggest you randomly make special episodes specifically for scrapers but in these videos you teach how to download ram from browser, hack nasa with html and more meme related misinformation

[@_Makanko_]

Deliberately spreading misinformation? Not the solution though but just making the web a worse place.

[@djejnyc]

at 2:26, this is the EXACT question MKB asked last week about music, what's the difference between people being learning from music that came before them and an AI? An AI can't be inspired, it can only copy and assemble.

[@mikedproducer]

I’m almost exclusively an audio listener (Thank you Adam for always thinking about ME listening in my car. All about the audio). Anyway, I came here to comment that you guys all need Ecobee in your life. The new Nest looks beautiful but most of those features have been in Ecobee since the beginning. And the temp sensors have worked flawlessly for years. I have 4 of them. The Canadians already perfected it the thermostat. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Thank you. I love the show. I will disappear back into AudioWorld now. 😊

[@elcosoccer26]

For the section about TVs and HDMI eARC, you wouldn’t have to plug the Google TV, or any streaming device for that matter, into the eARC. Any HDMI will work just fine to power the TV on using the streaming box remote so long as the TV has HDMI-CEC, which most if not all modern TVs do. Hope this helps, love your videos and this team!!!!!

[@The_Durrs]

30:04 I personally try to watch multiple games at once but it’s only for football when my home team isn’t playing. I also tend to pick one of the games to full screen view until commercial. Then I go back to multiview to only pick the next best looking game until commercial so for the average homeowner I thinks it is not beneficial, but for sports bars and restaurants, it benefits them having multiple games on so people out of state can see their game if it’s only on a 1/4 screen. I think this is where the AR or glasses that show a screen to a specific pair of glasses might work. New tech but I love this podcast and this episode so much for some reason haha 😂

[@nicknorthcutt7680]

19:43 David, idk if you were being sarcastic but I feel like you guys would know about an app that ends with anced and starts with an R. It makes life so much easier.

[@GumbyLikeMe]

36:14 David that's EXACTLY why I'm getting one lololol

[@The-Great-Misha]

Me screaming Nvidia at David during the first Trivia question

[@The_Durrs]

Everyone else screaming how do you not know AMD! 😂 total brain fart moment

[@Leanzazzy]

Adam actually gave it away when he revealed that Xbox used a GPU from this company. Which major company other than AMD makes GPUs?

[@mastmar221]

Watched the entire Olympics with 4 streams going on YOutube tv. Was fantastic to jump back and forth to what was most active in the moment.

[@wes397]

Yes Marques is right! I've also got the Google TV and it turns the TV on/off and controls the soundbar volume all from the Google TV remote. Honestly, it's pretty great!

[@em1tulsa]

Love the chaotic cast; keep it up! Getting the Google TV Streamer on day 1. Have had nothing but Chromecast with Google TV since launch, and the remotes are the weak link. I was just about to buy a replacement C-GTV just to get a new remote. Yes, the remote does control TV power with the power button, and I programmed the extra button to control TV input. I am looking forward to the new features of the TV streamer, such as Google Home integration. Google Home isn't the best, definitely not reliable. But still helpful and useful.

[@tehphoebus]

Thanks gents for another great podcast. Legit my favorite part of Fridays.

[@zappynaruto]

Honestly would love a podcast of just tech stuff the guys use for their houses. As a homeowner it was one of the most interesting things I've heard 😂

[@pklungel]

Thanks for the podcast! Looking forward to having Ellis back!

[@Pokebilities]

Was not expecting blacktail studio to also be scraped but Scott is a great videographer 😂

[@tutacat]

It doesn't use less energy to trickle heat home, it saves the grid from being overwhelmed if you stagger heating times.

[@leeroyjenkins0]

37:00 you don't need EARC to control a device via another over HDMI, you just need CEC which has existed since HDMI 1.0 Wiring is mandatory in all connectors but the feature is optional. But most modern TVs should support it.

[@mitchbeachfun]

This is one of my favorite episodes! You all were super funny! I LOL’d a bunch of times! Good energy in this one too! This is one of my favorite KZbin channels!

[@chetstriker]

I'm personally excited about the google tv streamer because having the network jack along with extra ram and better processor would make gaming through NVidia GeForce now potentially worthwhile. Let alone the addition of Dolby Atmos is a nice addon for those who have a sound system and want to take advantage of it,

[@thomasemery7035]

David has been replaced by an alternate universe version, that is the only explanation of why he doesn't know things that the real David would know.

[@darwinpclarkjr7898]

The C wire is the ”common” on newer systems. Standard thermostats don't require thiwire and Google has found a way to get around this hurdle

[@pauloclemente238]

What is used to control the volume and power of the TV from external devices is HDMI-CEC (Consumer Electronics Control) and not HDMI-ARC.

[@JOELY713]

Zoom in on Marques during nest Convo was hilarious

[@middler5212]

In the middle of them saying “recognize an advertisement” while talking about an AI who could skip ads for you, an ad came on in my video. And THEN as soon as the ad was over, KZbin started playing a DIFFERENT video instead of resuming the episode. 😳

[@Brandon37_]

Guys you can rest assured that I definitely watched all the integrated ads in this one, absolutely no skipping.

[@garrettord]

the podcasters talking about skipping ads. one of us. one of us

[@TheShadowySquirrel]

I absolutely would use the multiview a lot for different sport streams. The NCAA app has a fantastic multi-view feature for when March madness is in full swing.

[@BlacMacLabs]

I am one of those people that watch more than one video at the same time! I watch full length reactions. So I sync up the reaction video with the content. This is actually why I switched to the Z Fold. In split screen with Sound Assistant I can watch both on one device. It used to be that I had to use my iPad and iPhone.

[@jasonoliveira2149]

idk why, but I loved the google tv convo and problem-solving

[@kacper746]

When setting up Chromecast you can select TV brand, and the remote will send the brand-specific signals to the TV to turn it on/off

[@JakeJAZ]

Wait you guys have been fast forwarding integrated Ads? That’s crazy to me. If i like the channel i basically always watch every second

[@Hiram27]

College Football Saturdays would be the best use case for myself using multiple pictures from different apps.

[@revirdkcalb]

38:00 I have the Chromecast as well and I only use that one remote (since I only watch streams). The Chromecast remote can turn my TV on and off, also immediately turns on/off my soundbar (and obviously controls Android TV). Only thing it can't do for me is select different sources to say put on a different HDMI for my Xbox. So, for that I still need my TV remote.

[@TylerJReed0]

The Podcasts app in iOS 18 has a chapters feature like KZbin does. Would you guys be able to duplicate the chapters you do on KZbin in the Podcasts app? Would be a great way to “fix” the podcast ad problem you guys discussed lol.

[@cadenniday1560]

We need an episode every day.

[@lucassatie]

@54:50, actually the subscription features of the Wyze cameras enable some basic algorithm filtering that surprisingly worked fairly well. It had an option to only alert for humans and, if memory serves, it was pretty darn accurate. I remember the day my free trial of the subscription ended and my notifications went from like 4 each day to 40 (or 1,000 if it's raining or windy).

[@seaneyo]

Thermostat placement: think interior walls vs exterior walls, can be a 20deg swing. Also, most houses have a basement, main floor and 2nd floor. Average 10deg difference per floor, less if circulation is “always on”. If your nursery is on the 2nd floor, temp set to 72, thermostat on main floor, AC may only cool the nursery to 78deg on a hot day before the thermostat on main floor reads 72.

[@antonshynkaretskyi4077]

Lol guys, in the context of skipping the in-video ads, with all due respect, but there's an extension called "sponsor block for youtube", which already does it all.

[@SHAD3Y1331]

Marquez saying "Hell yeah, I did" in trivia should be a sound bite

[@JYou27R1]

I would like to say I subconsciously listened to all the ads without realizing and didn’t skip them

[@brandanl7780]

It's Friday ❌ It's Waveform Day! ✅

[@mcduffchannel]

My setup seems to function the same as Marques. Both Samsung: my soundbar goes into my TVs eArc and my Google TV goes into the soundbars HDMI, and the 1 remote controls it all including power and volume.

[@mfadetoblack]

Nest thermostat: doesn't this just sound like all the features Ecobee has had for many years?!

[@HimanshuTark]

@Marques: You can plug Google TV Dongle in the soundbar and then soundbar to TV. Your soundbar generally is able to send Google TV Stream to the TV.

[@nickhughes1131]

loved the 2 out of 3 segment!

[@mjmikaelson]

Another fantastic episode gentlemen!

[@edflifestyle6583]

Not skipping ads anymore, for y’all.

[@SageLegacy]

It's okay David, I'm a teacher and certain words or basic acronyms don't sound familiar sometimes despite me struggling without doubting the word STEM

[@seaneyo]

Anecdotal experience: i have bought a brand new nest thermostat three times for under $50 over the last 10 years by utilizing utility company rebates. They are motivated by gaining the ability to sign you up for programs which offload peak time energy use (particularly on several of the hottest days of the year) for meaningful credit (i think up to $75/yr flat credit in addition to the electricity saved)

[@lamp007]

If you have an E~ARC soundbar with multiple HDMI inputs you can control everything with one remote. I do this with my JBL soundbar.

[@algrst]

I got the jump ahead from KZbin during the ads 😂

[@milkmanchannel1]

David shouting "its the one thing I want from AI!!" Would be a good sound bite

[@monog0n]

57:32 Basically (as of now anyway,) the assistant for everything home-related is the Google Assistant (likely thanks to stuff like Voice Match), but the assistant for personal devices is Gemini. So to try simplifying things a bit: Nest devices: Google Assistant, Pixel devices: Gemini. Although they also love to use the Gemini branding everywhere that's barely related to AI, even on Nest devices, so it's pretty complicated

[@jediparker]

Love Fridays. Friday = Waveform day

[@8obby]

42:00 Please make this a new sound bite. 😂

[@visheshhiremath9030]

My Chromecast also controls the sound bar. But it doesn't do it through the TV, it actually has the traditional IR blaster in front of the remote and it just does the volume very well. It can't do anything else with the sound bar, can't change eq / sound modes / etc. But it can do volume! The sound bar comes on automatically anyway, and goes to sleep after some time of not using it.

[@iAkashPaul]

Content put onto KZbin goes with an expectation of payment later depending on whether the creator gets paid by KZbin or has sponsored content to begin with. There was no guarantee of payment by KZbin anyway, all streaming services are different in this regard for monetization.

[@lawnboi81]

Samsung frame and Samsung sound bar with Chromecast with Google TV. I can use the Samsung remote for controlling the TV or Google TV and sound. Google TV remote can modify sound, turn on and off and interact with Google TV obviously.

[@Shirley36]

I actually do watch all the ad reads all the way through... except when it's the Meta AI one where they just slap their audio spot straight in... I prefer the ads where you guys read them out even if they don't really apply to me as a non-business owner

[@607AAG]

For the first time I feel far superior in knowledge on a subject. You all talking about thermostats was wild 🤣

[@Artofcarissa]

Marques not knowing anything Meatloaf was in was so freaking funny 😂😂😂

[@Lidelse]

So as someone who plugs my Chromecast w Google tv 4k into a USB hub for more storage. I already preordered the Google tv streamer. This has a lot more storage without needing to use a USB hub which is great. And the ram bump is also good.

[@lennartadriano6980]

37:16 if the new remote is like the old one, it probably has an ir sensor and should be able to turn the tv on and off, i think. Im not sure because i have the google tv on a monitor

[@theluxbehindthecamera6689]

It would be really cool to see you guys do a live interactive show.

[@revirdkcalb]

Also my Nest thermostat always reads the temperature in the room 1-1.5 degreec Celcius warmer than it actually is. I guess that's a good way to help clients save energy, by making them think there house is actually warmer than it actually is (during the winter).

[@bumblewyn]

The multiple streams of sports would be great for Formula 1, I always have the main broadcast up on my TV but on my laptop I have 4 additional windows of driver cams and timings and radio replays. I would still prefer to keep that on my laptop and not _also_ on the TV taking up screen space next to the race, but I can see why people would use it.

[@jangamnaveen154]

21:00. David was definitely short circuting (I knew that it was nvidia right away😶‍🌫️)

[@PrajwalDSouza]

Relatable David : It's weird to talk to people with houses

[@price.gaines]

I recently got my first nest thermostat, and I definitely agree that the scheduling UI is stupid, but the geolocation features work great for my wife and I. You can manually adjust the Eco temperatures that it sets when you leave the house, so I just have mine a couple of degrees away from the normal temps. And I found that I had to manually go into the app settings to enable geofencing on both mine and my wife's phones. But it always works now.

[@midnight_yota]

This is the only podcast I don’t skip the integrations.