More Customization is Coming to the iPhone!

[@nazbond8851]

Im with Andrew. A) it's on someone else's phone so why would I care and B) Isn't this exactly what we've been asking for collectively?

[@thekinkshamer1177]

Right! Like coming from an android user who switched to IOS. Customization is extremely overrated. Android’s customization most time need a launcher. It’s so mind blowing that Apple is able to just change colors without the need of it

[@PSy84]

unfortunately there are few apps not following the colors and theme set in android😢.

[@Olivertm11]

No, that’s not what we asked for. What we want is the ability to install themes/icons packs, not a f*cking color tinting thing.

[@James-lw3gi]

@@thekinkshamer1177100% agree. Android UI gets out of control very quickly - it ends up feeling so disjointed and messy. Seems like you’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t. I was kinda surprised at the general negativity expressed in this video.

[@thekinkshamer1177]

@@Olivertm11 boohoo you’ll live

[@Shambley1]

It’s crazy to me that I see people whining about being able to customize the phone. If you don’t like the customization then don’t do it. You still have that option. It’s ALWAYS better to have the option and not use it than want an option and not have it. I’m always going to choose having the choice over not.

[@b3naqua]

The colorizing of app icons in 18 feels very MySpace 2002 aesthetics

[@ArquelCudia_xAMTCx]

That means iPhone are REALLY BEHIND 😂😂😂

[@b3naqua]

@@ArquelCudia_xAMTCx lol depends on how you look at it. Some ppl love fugly lol

[@DebF124]

Gotta bring back pasting html code

[@No1SlapFIGHTFan]

People still have custom app icons. Myself included.

[@b3naqua]

@@DebF124 & accidentally installing like 20 viruses onto your computer

[@Theinspirationalrogue]

That hiding apps and locking them will end relationships. Im calling it now… 😂

[@TheJerknoid]

The hidden photos section of the photos app already does a little bit of this. I can only imagine how much worse it would get when it comes to apps.

[@marvinrhodesjr]

I had that thought too, but ultimately it always boils down to the person/people. Honest, upright people will still be who they are. This update only makes it easier for people who are already sneaky and dishonest to continue down that path.

[@yoshikinanami7434]

Why is everyone immediately jumping to cheating? This is genuinely a good feature for people living in a really abusive relationship or household.

[@Theinspirationalrogue]

@@yoshikinanami7434 yeah that was the second thing I thought about. but that topic isn’t as important and interesting as the first one

[@HulkVanMychen]

Texts have been doing that since the era the pyramids were built! 😶‍🌫

[@mamiya.apricot]

Andrew is the heart of this show.

[@David-gs9vw]

The option to select transparent apps would be nice.

[@BryonLetterman]

Everyone always says that Apple waits to do something until it can do it best, but why did it wait till 18th version of iOS to offer something as simple as being able to place icons where you want them?

[@limbeboy7]

If you buy any apple product you're a clown 🤡. They make NOTHING you can't find better anywhere else. Only thing holding them now is walled garden

[@SimonLYW]

@@limbeboy7 You calling Marques a clown?

[@Yellow-channell]

@@limbeboy7PROUD CLOWN

[@Dantastic123]

They wanted to make sure they got it right. And did it better than Android. Hahaha, oh wait, they messed it up. Text blends in.

[@garrettblackard8893]

@@limbeboy7caring what another individual buys is wild

[@somethingsomethingsomethingdar]

It needs the primary and secondary colors. Tinting to just one does not allow you to make it look good.

[@marvinrhodesjr]

If you have the design and/or creative prowess, you can absolutely make this feature worthwhile. I'm excited about the possibilities. Also, the feature will undoubtedly get better and more refined before the public release of the app.

[@rogerbravo3783]

I got you what you are saying about the control centre. Honestly once you sort and organise it, it’s a charm. One cool thing is that you can bring the shortcuts with actions on the control centre! That’s a game changer for me. Try it out..

[@lost7123]

I still can’t wrap my mind around the fact, that Apple has some of the coolest features, but at the same time lacks the most basic stuff, that android had for years.

[@sheesh9050]

its a sacrifice i made when i swtiched to iphone this year

[@jclif77]

Apple could learn from Android but it the midst of "differentiating" they coin it the Apple way and sometimes they miss. Then there are times they really miss.

[@ffamilyff]

You mean, had since its inception ? 😅

[@iSowelu]

Apple should have implemented an easy ‘long press’ over icon option to reveal a library of icons, similar to emoji menus, so that the user can just quickly select an alternative icon, then tap on home screen to confirm the change. This should have applied to any and all icons - both system and 3rd party. It would’ve be simple, clean and easy process while staying true to Apple’s iOS language and overall aesthetic.

[@gowthamrajasekar]

One of them is wearing a watch in each wrist😂😂😂

[@thecapone45]

We got home screen customization before GTA VI 💀

[@michaelchen2718]

8:50 INCORRECT!!!!!!!! IT WAS THE SAME WAY IN IOS 17.

[@thomasbarrett9888]

Not true. You can press and hold the WiFi logo in 17 straight from control centre.

[@lajawi.]

11:11 If you look closely, there's a split second where you can't see the hidden app, until the FaceID recognizes you, then you see it.

[@michaelchen2718]

17:50 you have no idea how many times Ive needed this, when its 1am and my parents think Im already asleep so I cant text them

[@aj-1700]

The photos app got a little bit of redesign?! You do not seem you have taken the time to review the new features

[@rest0re871]

They rather complain about things they don’t fully understand yet. Like the redundancy in the control center being fixable in 4 seconds. Or the 5 taps for WiFi being more like 1 long swipe and 2 taps

[@lajawi.]

I once scheduled a message using shortcut automations. I just made an automation that sends a specific text to a specific contact at a specific time. You'll have to remember to remove it once the message was sent, though.

[@CritLoren]

funny how iphone users used to make fun of android homescreens for looking ugly, and now it's all balanced lol

[@diskrisks]

Never seen any iPhone user say that.

[@bbcringegaming]

So much bs in what you say, as a long time iphone user it’s one of the future me and my friends wanted.

[@Brad-fo8dz]

@@diskrisks people who have apple products tend to be very cultish

[@georgefloydtv.]

We don't even think about you

[@enzmondo]

People keep forgetting that iMessage is a messaging over IP service. Think WhatsApp and Telegram. At this point, cellular messaging is only incidental. SMS, MMS, and RCS are low in their priority because they’re still low capacity and lacks many of IP messaging features. The difference is just that iMessage is built together with cellular messaging. That allows it to be built into the system itself. It’s not technically their fault RCS can’t support many of IP messaging features and that Android doesn’t have a similar service that’s built into the system together with cellular messaging.

[@EggTamago7]

So personally... like 90% of all icon packs I've seen on Android look terrible. Most examples I've seen of tinted icons on Android look terrible. Most harder-core attempts at iPhone customization... I think the icons look terrible. The tinted icons in the keynote demo, to me, also looked terrible. Looking through posts on Reddit, I started to see a few examples where it actually looked decent, but they were in the minority. There's an extremely low chance I'll actually use this particular feature, because... best case, it looks decent. Not amazing or better, just decent. Even so, this is clearly what the people want. People, who generally have zero design sense (not a diss, just gotta be real) want to make their phone more personal, and this will achieve that. While probably also looking terrible. My other beef: Having all icons the exact same colour seriously makes it way harder to quickly differentiate between them. When I'm looking for WhatsApp, I'm not looking for the icon that looks like a chat bubble, I'm looking for that shade of green. All that aside: The dark-mode icons are awesome and I will probably use those.

[@mjjones1045]

Lol, you're an Apple fan boy. Stop perping

[@DONQUIIIXOTE]

That’s cap lmao

[@davidnnamani1715]

@@mjjones1045why yall always hating on 📱 android fanboys always mad at Apple

[@Ayussh_1]

Give us a option to use the current control centre, not a big fan of the new one

[@RichnessReimaginedChris]

A lot of the reason why I switched back to iOS was because of the blue bubble and music but now that that’s going away …. I’m really thinking of returning back to my android cupcake days.

[@Nattodayy]

I just search for the app I need and keep nothing on the Home Screen. It feels cleaner not having apps cover up my wallpaper.

[@DatTruckinGuy]

Hopefully in the next updates for iOS 18, there will be even more icon styles. That would greatly improve on customization. Transparent Widgets, too.

[@markreif1]

the problem with the tint is that you can't make out what the icons(apps) are in folders. they need to allow limited colors within those tints.

[@solomongabriel9743]

The photos on the widget also get tinted, which looks really bad.

[@jayritchie7284]

I downloaded the beta to try the Home Screen customization and after 5 minutes of playing around I left the apps in their default state. The tinting looked terrible! The comment of having a primary and secondary colours was on the money. I like the changes to control centre especially 2 x 1 widgets. I would appreciate 2 x 1 apps/widgets on the homescreen too.

[@garrettblackard8893]

You can Tapback with stickers too

[@qcharles1991]

I don’t like the connectivity cluster in the control center either. I feel like each one should be independent

[@diskrisks]

So a few people have horrible taste in colour... but it's somehow Apple's fault and Apple's the one being made fun of? I've seen millions of disgusting Android homescreens and nobody has given Google any hate for that.

[@HackinTec]

Google optimised the material u to its limit but apple just wrote a code to color all the icons, tthe comfortablity matters

[@C.SchitzPopinov]

You know what would really make App' customization cool? If, instead of dark mode, and solid colours for the App' icons. An option for semi-transparent-frosted look for that 'sense of hierarchy' effect🤷🏼‍♂️

[@filmboxstudios3655]

Can't save the photos from Files they have to fix this official version

[@arbetbenjaminkwashi9324]

Apple gives you want you want, customise as you wish, I’m with Andrew. I trust myself to not make an ugly Home Screen

[@mjjones1045]

Since when have Apple given you all what you want?

[@arbetbenjaminkwashi9324]

@@mjjones1045 THIS!!!! this is exactly what I want. Customization, a stable OS and 6yrs of updates without forced obsolescence, yes I’m not that hard to please. If I make it ugly, it’s my phone.

[@yoshikinanami7434]

I haven’t felt this “forced obsolescence” thing since iOS 9 on the iPhone 4S. What are ya’ll doing to your phones? The iPhone 7 on the last version is still pretty snappy. Currently on the 12 pro iOS 18 beta 1 and it still feels snappy. In terms of stability yeah iOS is very hit or miss, no version so far apart from 12 could top iOS 6.

[@michaelchen2718]

14:12 ah yes, the messages war goes on.

[@Dwolf-nv8sb]

I noticed most of these features were already in the facebook messenger app

[@JustNel]

You guys hit all the gripes I’ve had with this beta.. and lack of customization.. this is the first iPhone I’ve own since the 3G.. Hopefully they fix a lot of this stuff but android has been light years ahead with features

[@michaelchen2718]

13:20 I AGREE WITH ELLIS 100%%%%%

[@mirza.]

One scenario that I imagine is if I have to use someone else’s phone in an emergency situation, I know for example what the phone app looks like, and I can quickly access it. I know it’s a really rare use case but that could be the difference in those moments.

[@michaelchen2718]

14:52 not an unfair point.

[@daledevernon56]

Instead of having to change each element in the customisation process on iPhone, why doesn't apple just make a themes feature similar to Samsung.

[@bruxi78230]

C'mon. You know how this works. Apple likes to do new features every year. In 2025 it will be complimentary colors. In 2026 it will be icon packs. In one of those years you'll just ask Siri to generate a particular look, and it will do so artistically and you won't be embarrassed to show off your home screen as if you were using an Android.

[@Change-1820]

I don't feel so old now because I use the word pagination all the time. 😂

[@michaelchen2718]

4:13 you can't handle two colors!

[@MyDogSteppedOnaBeee]

I don’t know about anyone else, but my AirPods Pro 2. They don’t sound as loud as they did an iOS 17. I even forgot the device and repaired them still sounds the same, but I haven’t tried the beta yet for AirPods Pro. Anyone else having the same issue? The music just doesn’t sound as loud. I have to turn the volume up more to hear it better the music it’s much less louder than iOS 17 🤷‍♂

[@shankars195]

At least they did this. Couple of years back the biggest change that was assumed is to change the icons shapes in iPhone 😂. Android had built a big feature list which iPhone can pick up and implement for next few years. Android getting saturated? They need to now generate more features so that apple can use it 10 years down the line.

[@drb5003]

You can never win... Damn if you do, Damn if you don't...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@yoshikinanami7434]

If Apple released an iOS 6 theme pack and even if it was paid, I’d buy it. I love iOS 6 so much.

[@zebonautsmith1541]

iPhone needs a shortcut to go directly to the app library; especially if you want to access the hidden folder.

[@ImThePepper]

I feel like eventually we're going in a widget focused, iconless, direction. I only use widgets on my homescreens, and for the ones I don't have useful widgets for, I have a quick access way to get them. Everything else I get in the organized app drawer on the occasion I might need them. The problem with this theory is how slow the development of the widget ecosystem is happening. We'll see though...

[@Linnier1]

I want Apple intelligence on my phone but it’s only on 15 pro and 16

[@droidfan17]

I think the thing that confuses me the most is, even though it's a beta and the theme engine will probably get better.... Google didn't implement Material You until a few betas into Android 12 and I feel like it had worked out most of the kinks at the time? It was a while ago so maybe I'm not remembering correctly but it's surprising to see Apple implement it so early and for it to look so rough...

[@NichtderMuller]

Why not make a video about Apple not giving the EU AI on iOS18 as a payback for the USB-C Standard ?

[@petilee1]

Why they don’t using true tone coloring inside the iphone? Imagine a wallpaper like a sun and sky with green grass and icons on the green would feed in green tone and icons on sky gotten blue and yellow tones

[@milpatel83]

This discussion is a bit dumb as the icon colour changes aren’t available for all Android skins/OS (its all the same), only some. The funny thing is, once Apple actually release this feature, more iOS users will have this ability than Android users - now thats funny.

[@thundersandhu]

its first time everyone felt like completely wrong, first used to cry that apple dont allow us and now criticising that it can make people’s phone horrible (which should never be concern) and even MKBHD saying same is sad. not a valid point at all. only andrew is right.

[@andrewdavidson665]

This is so weird. You're collectively (barring Andrew) having a go at Apple for letting people customise when it's been cried about for years because you don't like what people will do when they customise?

[@dakotamurphy225]

That’s exactly what I’m saying. People cry just to cry. They act like they are forced to get iPhones

[@andrewdavidson665]

@@dakotamurphy225 thing is I've got an iPhone and likely will get another one sometime (this one is 3 years old) and I am quite looking forward to having a look at the new customisations on it but this seems to be just crying for the sake of it just like you said. Odd and a little bit sad.

[@brianmartinez5091]

"The...Page-ination" 😂🤣

[@giomari4246]

Problem is, since Google doesn't make it mandatory, some app developers still has not supported the Material You theme. Some app developers are just making excuses like, "We like to be different." I'm like, different as in annoying?

[@ItsJustMeStevie]

Apple, give me the ability to desaturate the icons to look like the 70s

[@Coollsmalls4kTechArtist]

I see him getting the iOS 18 beta 1 on his iPhone

[@brianwoodcox9878]

I want light mode icons but dark mode widgets, why can’t I just be happy???

[@jpmvids]

All I want out of Apple is a volume slider on the lock screen.

[@michaelchen2718]

16:25 trust me, it could be worse.

[@brianfontenot8264]

apple needs to give a theme store where they can buy different icon packs, wallpapers and themes. make some free and some paid. Depending on the preference.

[@lajawi.]

12:07 Genmoji feels like a blatant ripoff of Newji, an app developed and published a mere half year earlier, roughly.

[@Marc.Google]

The theme engine is my least favourite update on iOS 18.

[@jakesiu7773]

Android with Window launcher is the best!

[@growviralwithlends6858]

Love this alot particularly

[@LordMizukage_]

This really sounded like no matter what people are never satisfied, why would you care if that stranger customized his phone and looks ugly? That just seems like a weird thing to make a negative

[@paulwilson3759]

Love the video boys, think I'll give iOS a miss though. Thanks anyway 😮

[@marinangelov]

I wish the weather app icon wouldn’t just turn black when the iPhone is in dark mode, but that the sun 🌞 would get replaced with the moon 🌙 as well.

[@TheMainCal]

Now now making apps disappear due to a bug is a feature 😂

[@stephencooper3583]

So in short... some people suck at customization. They've been ruining Androids the same way for years. Some people just have zero artistic talent. Even with the shortcuts... some people were making some horrendous looking iphone screens. But at the same time, some people with a bit of skill made some that looked amazing. But the bottom line is that you don't have to look at other people's phone anyway. So who cares if someone makes an ugly screen? It's not Apple's (or Android's or Samsung's) fault. So that said, I think it is a welcome addition.

[@TheMainCal]

It won’t be lawnmower 2.0 but it really should be

[@lvseka]

Paginated… Marques explains… Oh… (I can relate)

[@christhomas86]

Wow! iPhones are just now getting this regular ass feature 😂😂 years, years, and more years Behind

[@katreythompson]

They hating this is hella cool really it’s not that bad

[@Rygulas]

100% damned if they do and damned if they don’t. B*ched for years that it wasn’t there, and now that it is, they balk at only the worst designs that people have been showing. And let’s be clear, you don’t have to use it!

[@michaelchen2718]

6:47 everyone know that word

[@TheRealMafoo]

How can people this steeped in tech, not know pagination?

[@johanneskorenhage5090]

CONSPIRACY THEORY: Apple purposely made the icon theming bad because they knew people would compare it to Android. If the theming looks bad, it makes Android seem less appealing

[@Yellow-channell]

You are on to something dead ass

[@shahriartanvir977]

You can now move your apps to wherever you want. WOW! What an invention. Why did no one think of that before...? oh, nvm..

[@mordecaiKamanga4]

The fact of the matter is Andrew doesn't like Apple

[@crescentdave]

This episode was just great. My first "smartphones" were apple and then I got the customization bug and moved to android. Then it was a move to pixel. Having the iphone give me the ability to customize is huge and they keep moving forward in this area. Add apple's greater commitment to security and I think there's a near-compelling reason to switch back. I'm in IT, I'm an old bird, I could really care less about texting embroidery per se, I run a 70% apple/20% windows/10% linux shop. I guess my point is apple is moving in the right direction with customization on top of more important (to me) security and privacy issues. Great episode.

[@DerangedScout]

Welp, seems like I'm sticking with apple (After 12 years with Android)

[@michaelchen2718]

2:22 hahahahah

[@Erikadub]

Would've been nice to see some iPhone screens after so much talking for those but on iPhone

[@StKildaFan]

People have always had the ability to run their home screens by choosing terrible background photos

[@michaelchen2718]

11:17 HA

[@TopOfThePopsRedubbed]

No more massive innovation from Apple, just tinkering around the edges. This may excite the people who feel the colour of their laptop is as important as its performance but I'd suggest that to most other people this is just another indicator of Apple's decline.

[@AceFord-gv9lc]

Did he just call Nas "Nos"? Or is Nos a different person? Please tell me it's a different person😂

[@HulkVanMychen]

What any user chooses to do with their screen though does not need to pass any creativity or art test! If it works for the user, the talk stops there!

[@geoshock1]

When Apple finally gets a feature that’s been on Android forever why is that presented as a negative thing? So now that Apple finally gets it suddenly it’s a “but Android had it first!” response? Sorta childish, no? And yes I do know it goes both ways…

[@jeanchindeko5477]

Visual art is something subjective. What might be terrible will for sure be great or at least good for the one who make it! That your point of view that people homescreen are terrible, but the good thing is 1. it's their phone home screen, 2. you don't have to look at it, and 3. that definitely not your dam business!

[@chrisneves2030]

Guy doesn’t know what pagination is, but then says ‘Symantec segmentation’ for removing an image from the background.

[@goodvibestv5380]

The thing about the majority of Apple users is that they’re so uncreative that they’ll just rely on KZbinr curated setups to make their home screens and control centers look aesthetically pleasing

[@ScreamsPenguin]

Everyone made fun of Andriod for years because the customization let people make ugly shit. Who the hell sets their font to comic sans??? Now Apple lets the users make ugly decisions and it's a problem? Bizarre

[@dereka5310]

Bro pronounced Nas' name as "noss"😭😭

[@dereka5310]

And why would they change the color of the green in the green bubbles?😭😭 bro is definitely high

[@jasonp.edouard2307]

Apple needs to remove all hidden apps in spotlight when we search for them because if we can find them in spotlight therefore they are not hidden.