In Bat Cave, a tight-knit NC community deeply divided after Helene

[@richardhannemann9198]

I was going to ashville from florida...GODs will took me to this community and old fort....i worked 4 days with other vollenters. ...THESE PEOPLE ARE AWSOME ..they worked together to help one another ...I WAS HONOURED TO SEE TRUE AMERICAN SPIRIT....UNITED WE STAND...

[@caseyquinn6458]

My son's house was flooded with 4 feet of water in 2018 from hurricane Florence on the east coast of NC. It was the same. Volunteers like you came from all over to help. The communities really came together and supporter each other.

[@bartosullivan8050]

PTSD is going to be a problem for everyone in Bat Cave. Was there three weeks ago and was amazed at the destruction, heartbreaking is putting it mildly. It's a great community and my wife and myself pray for them everyday.

[@7owlfthr]

Ffffema

[@elperro3683]

BS! These are mountain people; not candy ass city folks.

[@hscamzhscam177]

This report is worse than a game of chinese telephone with preschoolers. 😮

[@Allisillusion-z3f]

Exactly! It says nothing.

[@garylancaster3995]

I am 73 years old. I was raised up in this area. Owned property on Lake Lure. My family sold out during the early 70s, Back then there was just about 20 young people from us say from 16 to mid 20s. People that was born there. The closest police station was in Rutherfordton better than 20 miles away. Then all the big money and outsiders started buying everything and taking over the local politics. That's when we sold out. Couldn't afford to live or put up with the bullcrap. I feel for the people that live there. I live probably 40 miles from there now and haven't been there in the last 25 years.

[@papasmurfron7339]

That's what's happening all over this country. It's sad! They come in and we have to leave!

[@Flash3-22]

The disparity of wealth is a common story across this country. The rich are getting richer. Bet it will get worse under DJT.

[@JadyGrudd]

I thought I was going to get an accurate picture... I got very little information and the official statement on "misinformation."

[@hime273]

WBTV: "We asked the Government, and they told us that they did great, they saved everybody in no time at all, and they don't understand why anybody would ever say they did otherwise."🙄 WV coal miners build 10 mile long new road in a river bed, faster than the DOT can build 1 bridge. Good job, Government.

[@sabinereynaudsf]

Looks like they built a dirt road. The bridge looks like an actual trucks can drive over it. Both did a part. Rebuilding regular roads the government will still be needed.

[@colinhuff8591]

The citizens built that road and that bridge

[@colinhuff8591]

The government isn’t helping these people. They’re helping each other

[@xyz12345457]

The government isn't helping them? Do you think Elon is going to recommend FEMA immediately paying out $750 to anyone who looks like they need it? Here's a hint - NO! I am so sick of you morons making claims about things you know nothing about. Go back to your barstool.

[@leocatz]

Are you here? There's been a lot help from of both. Government (from local - to federal) has been awesome. So have neighbors. Amazing how much a disaster like this can cut through the red vs blue B.S.

[@idamcneill8005]

Who the hell you think was flying those helicopters? The governments, federal, state, local..

[@paulherring8959]

You and your fellow "gubmint" hating conservo aholes can knock it off with the BS lies and conspiracy theories now. You got your orange clown in place for another 4 years of lying so you've accomplished your mission. Pat yourself on the back and STFU while well meaning people and ,yes, government agencies do their jobs. These regions are going to recover over a period of years, not days.

[@kaythegardener]

Most of the local relief is the responsibility of the local & state govts. The Federal govt deals mainly with the infrasturcture-- bridges, highways, hospitals, schools ect. Why didn't each county beforehand make sure county emergency headquarters with generators would be around right after the storm??

[@kennymartin379]

Praying for you guys and everyone involved GOD bless you and everyone involved

[@vha3742171]

Thanks for this story.

[@joeyshover6574]

I lived in that area for 3yrs and nothing is ever what it seems at face value! Don't judge a book by it's cover! There is definitely a very dark side to the hills and it involves the government, law enforcement and people with clout!

[@warmsunnytoday4535]

Tell us more. Are they child. traffic ing there? Is there underground things going one between the Vanderbilt owned resort and Billy Graham church?

[@warmsunnytoday4535]

What dark stuff? Child harm stuff?

[@kaythegardener]

​@@warmsunnytoday4535 Appalachia has low education, low health services, high poverty rates & terrible opoid & other drug epidemics in the USA!! And don't forget the looters were local, preying on their neighbors!!

[@noosphericaltarzan]

The only reason they could run this report from Bat Cave was that WV coal miners built an expedient road to allow regular vehicles to travel in and out of there. The government abandoned those people for the most part. I live in Fletcher right above the airport. I am a USAF veteran. They didn't send any logistical, civil engineering, or medical units here. Not even a single C-17. This never happened since the founding of FEMA. Similar hurricanes like Katrina and Maria resulted in 10,000 - 15,000 troops, especially the civil engineering and medical units we never had. This is why everything is still broken and there is still debris everywhere. I don't know how to tell you all this without getting censored or gaslighted by Harris supporters. This is the biggest crime I ever saw in my life and I can't figure out for the life of me why they did it when they had to know it would cost them the election. Forget the woo woo theories. They withheld the very military units we needed and American citizens died waiting for rescue that was never sent. Most rescues were effected by veterans in civilian helicopters at great private expense that FEMA has made no effort to repay. And don't forget FEMA is still sitting on over 70 billion dollars in illegal slush fund money according to a DHS OIG report issued just last August. They have the ability to at least pay for civilian contractors to do what Biden admin refused to deploy the military to do (which was Biden's constitutional duty). Also note that the democrats defending FEMA here got their $750. I am registered independent: denied: So are most conservatives as I understand it. The truth is buried right there in your bs story.

[@myradioon]

The State deploys the National Guard. Not FEMA. And the State Republicans stalled on declaring a disaster area after the Dem Governor asked them. Also they stalled for a week to declare funds and just passed the third funding last week. You were in the Military and still don't understand how things work? And that woman said a Blackhawk evacuated her day after storm - Government Helicopter.

[@Allisillusion-z3f]

Well, that clears things up, not

[@moniqueengleman873]

Still up in the air. So sad

[@deborahhopkinson5243]

Nothing about this issue is confusing to real people. The American people are on their own.

[@stevenkirby7478]

Poor reporting, what happened to true investigation reporting?

[@moniqueengleman873]

I have really been concerned about this story. So many rumors. So little help. Where is FEMA????

[@fedupamerican296]

Sucking ill eagles.

[@deborahhopkinson5243]

There are plenty of disasters going on now; it seems like a new one is hitting every week (or less.) Volunteer for one of these disasters, with a church or something, BEFORE the government takes over. You'll experience first hand how real relief efforts are stopped by government agencies and corporations, they steal everything, allow volunteers to do the work for them under their control (and volunteers get completely frustrated that they can't really help anyone anymore,) and then take all the credit for any help the people do receive. They just want their money, and they will make sure that only the bare minimum is done to keep the funding rolling in. "Disaster relief" is a massive business, with insane profits; they will not waste those profits helping people. You don't have to stress about "rumors;" you'll see it for yourself.

[@MrMcgooOG]

SB Loans are not funded. But we give 20 B to Ukraine. The country's priorities are wrong.

[@mdh2362]

It's the GOP in control of congress that is holding up funding. Learn the facts.

[@xyz12345457]

@@MrMcgooOG You need to stop watching Fox News. Mr Magoo is right. There are none so blind as those who will not see.

[@user-SahmJuanElse]

There is an online list of over 400 missing. It would be great if we could get to the bottom of this.

[@junesecrist6719]

Bad communication, lack of knowledge of what disaster agencies do and who does what, plus a general anti government bias made things worse. Usually, there aren't a bunch of groups with little or no contact wirh the state created confusion and conflict by lack of clearance and cobtact.

[@jeweltee69]

Those KZbinrs are the real media ! that’s also where so much monies are coming in. If not for them I wouldn’t have even known, no one I know knew about this and if they did they did not understand what and why it’s so catastrophic. The only misinformation is that fema is there to help. They manage it. They’ll send you a bill.

[@tammyh.8454]

misinformation definition is truth

[@Catnyp2828]

You obviously don't own an actual dictionary, do you?

[@tammyh.8454]

@ why did I get 4 thumbs up, you ZERO!! keep watching cnn, fox , cbs, etc,

[@thomasjsanford4369]

People who disliked the government previously, found even more reasons to make up wild, untrue stories because of Helene... More rational people acknowledge that dealing with one of the worst storms in history has been difficult, especially in mountainous terrain, but that both government and private charities are doing their best to help....

[@BlueBirdJay-n2l]

damage control from government employees ...lmfao

[@cjayers9760]

Look how much only friends and help volunteers have done.

[@lolagoetz561]

The ONLY testimony Ive heard of someone receiving $ from FEMA. Ive heard many saying they were denied, didnt receive anything yet, ocodidnt have the means, at that time to apply. Never heard anyone say they got a dime.

[@myradioon]

I got my initial $750 hardship payment. I was initially denied because I didn't check "Do you need food?" box. After week with no power I did. So I called and they checked the box for me. Was approved that day.

[@Itsmeagain828]

I got denied. But some people I work with got the $750. My basement had a foot of water in it. They said they would come inspect, and 3 weeks later, they denied us without an inspection. That's been my experience. I just spent out of pocket per usual. What's new. We could have had it a whole lot worse. I can appeal but I am only out a couple thousand. I don't want the hassle, and a church gave us $500, and that helped a lot. There are plenty who need housing, though now. I wish they would help them.

[@myradioon]

@@Itsmeagain828 Just a heads up. I initially didn't check the box that asked if I needed food. That was one of the main factors deciding immediate aid. After two weeks no power I then needed food. I called back after getting denied and woman on the phone went back and checked the box for me in system. I was approved that day. Follow up.

[@myradioon]

@@Itsmeagain828 Make sure you checked off the box for "Do you need food?" I didn't initially but after getting denied I called and FEMA agent checked the box. I was approved that day. $750 Emergency Payment.

[@myradioon]

@@Itsmeagain828 You needed to check "Do you need food?" box to qualify for initial Emergency $750. Heads up. Main reason denied. We all lost food. You can call back and they can go in and check the box for you. I got approved after I did this.

[@papasmurfron7339]

5:56 The most important statement of the whole video! 👏 👍🏻🙏🏼

[@softhotty]

The misinformation on social media, the "bad" actors, are there folks motivated by profit coming down there to profit? With the platforms the "content" creators use to profit could there be lawsuits in the works? I guess we'll see. Praise to all the people helping people in these affected areas post Helene. Good on you folks. Bravo!

[@rogerglasco5941]

So sad. We have visited this area on vacation. Many many years to get it back to normal to say the least. So so sad.

[@stuartbuckley6113]

Bottom line is they are getting help. The rumor mill always runs and understandably emotions are running high. God bless those folks and everyone who is helping in anyway they can!

[@noosphericaltarzan]

But not from the government. That's the problem. We were left to die for four days, man.

[@TnTBikingAdventures]

Where do you live. I'm guessing not from around here. FEMA and DHS is doing nothing but completely complicating everything. The LOCALS are helping each other.

[@account2292]

As with most government activities, the wrongdoers have checked themselves for wrongdoing and determined there was nothing done wrong.

[@KJamesMellick]

Remember that narcissists will always make a crisis about them selves.

[@carolyngreen5458]

So RUDE..maybe you’re sitting high and dry!

[@robynrowan2371]

It’s not misinformation when some people are getting helped and others aren’t. It’s a fact there are people there who are not getting help and there’s people there who are so it ain’t got anything to do with any misinformation.

[@dougg8166]

I can see this was a very difficult article to do and hard to understand but I think most people get the picture. Reality is the huge variation in levels of loss. Some will never recover. Lost everything and some not so much and young enough to handle it. So sad.

[@thudtrades1850]

You can't dispute some elses truth..

[@bigredneck789]

IDK, I think I'll trust the plentiful eyewitness accounts over a corporate mouthpiece.

[@ryanmoss9940]

Unfortunately true, 10 min from

[@PollyT.Pocket22]

WHERE IS NATIONAL GUARD & FEMA TO GIVE HELP NOT LOANS & WHERE IS OUR GOVERNMENT?.

[@dottiebaker6623]

When I drove up Rt. 26 yesterday, I stopped in a hotel in Morganton, NC. I got one of the last rooms available.The hotel was full of National Guard, Fema and Linesmen from other states. In the morning, they were all going out to do more work in the area, not checking out. The woman at the front desk said they'd been there for weeks. I saw them with my own eyes.

[@susanndrake3838]

Gossip does make more problems than help

[@TheTishy44]

It’s idiots like that dude, who did the TikTok‘s that tear America apart.

[@warmsunnytoday4535]

What about the woman filming a sheriff in Bat Cave with the sheriff ready to take her kids. I would like to know name of the deputy. He had a red hair short beard and mustache and wears glasses.

[@DeborahHilson]

This saddens me. Rebuilding requires community for the success and prosperity. Your nation is behind you. Please let’s not focus on what didn’t happen but on progress being made. I live on the hurricane prone east coast of NC. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼✝️

[@devastatn]

This is the perfect example of social media reporting. But I would say this. Even without social media and computers for that matter there were news teams (journalist) that instead of reporting an unbiased product would sensationalize and ask leading questions to fit their narrative. So things haven't changed that much in the last 40 years. It's just 24/7 regurgitation of the worst kind. Mountain people help each other.

[@christinerobertson9596]

Uh they did not help my husband and I after three tries - we gave up

[@eamonnmckeown6770]

The phrase ' anti govt narrative ' is the only narrative here. The corporate media is pathetic.

[@AdvMedic2010]

What about Asheville?

[@KcPenguins]

Video is difficult to hear 😢

[@joefrisco]

People heading to WNC chasing online clout.

[@bryantsnider3908]

Do people have working phones

[@7owlfthr]

If they do, it's not from fema!

[@dottiebaker6623]

The hurricane took down some cell phone towers, but not all of them. So some people have working cell phones and some don't.

[@skipstalforce]

Plausible denile is plausible, except for all the people saying otherwise.

[@PETER-rj4he]

Jesus said, Labor not for perishing things, but labor for eternal life..⚘️

[@bcarol2484]

With what we now know about FEMA and the fed admin-check the online voting registrations to see what party they helped.

[@Catnyp2828]

What??

[@myradioon]

You are definitely part of the problem.

[@williamtherambling3334]

Hick ups lmao

[@Catnyp2828]

If you are so ignorant to listen to misinformation, then Im gonna say you get what you deserve.

[@warmsunnytoday4535]

If the sheriff is intimidating people and threatening the helpers to go and not help (as described by the man in the video) is that not crimes against humanity? Especially when the people had no food and water and they need help (like donated food and water) to live but sheriff is bullying the helpers to leave.

[@JL-fx2cd]

A perfect example... the meme said, "those that earn $700 an hour have convinced those that earn $25 an hour that the problem is all of "those" that earn $7.50 an hour... FREEDUMB loving MAGAts.

[@Iwillnotbepushed]

Everybody needs help there. Everybody needs help there now! That’s not being selfish. That’s just the truth. The problem is is they just isn’t enough manpower to help everybody immediately. Should there be? Probably. We have to remember what kind of incompetent buffoons have been running this country for the last four years though. Are there some politics that play here? Absolutely. Is there somewhat of a government land grab maybe going on here? Many people in the area affected seem to think there is. Too many people are reporting this for there not to be something to it.Remember the rule if you think someone is out to get you, they are.

[@deniseellenburg649]

Let's cover for the uncoverable, FEMA...

[@xyz12345457]

Clicked on this video and KZbin immediately started recommending every weirdo video produced by backwoods conspiracy theorists.

[@notlisted-cl5ls]

shout out to curtis mccart there from californiastan.

[@laurakilmer8652]

I dont think our Fed. Govt has done anything to help. Fema has done more to hurt. thank God for these local people and others that have helped. all I can do in fl. is sent money to some organizations that help. ( Sams purse ) God Bless you all.

[@RayAllen1776]

FEMA has done nothing on the ground. Rumors about dead and missing are disgusting. Every soul here in Yancey County was accounted for by our local government and the NC National guard early on. That said in a county with 18,000 people 2,000 homes and businesses were lost and roads are destroyed. It’s costing us $25k to have our road and driveway replaced. Hopefully this week. ❤️✝️🇺🇸

[@TnTBikingAdventures]

Ok, given this reporting. Let me pose this question and maybe you guys can shed some light. If the river is being located back to its original location in Chimney Rock. WHY? On one valley over, in the Green River Gorge are the land owners property's being condemned??? kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2rRcnauYseFjdk

[@marthavineyards7525]

Who owns this Network? Scripps-Howard? Sept 24th, That mining company in Charlotte, NC filed for a permit to mine in that area. After tje disaster, Kamala, whose husband owns stock in that company, reportedly, signed the paoers for the company to mine that area. Coincidence

[@carolyngreen5458]

PLAN

[@gloriasykes9464]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoa0eouLfaamgacsi=yJEdl1LUi-nwNJJz

[@PollyT.Pocket22]

WHY IS NOT FEMA GETTING THE WORD OUT

[@JK-vu6hl]

Why mention it was a conservative xhannel. Havent learnt much have you.

[@earnesthillsdale9218]

People love to fight and complain because they are spoiled

[@mb2888]

Lying news!

[@leiag201]

Don’t worry, everyone will get new homes once Trump is in office 👌🏿

[@avlkush]

😂 Another cultist who believes he helps anyone other than himself, the delusion in you is strong I see.

[@LibertynFreedom]

Most importantly...JESUS SAVES SOULS. Many went off into eternity without the .Saviour...

[@bbrcummins1984]

Stay in Maine

[@Mitchpdx123]

Don’t worry, Trump will save everybody.

[@avlkush]

😂😂😂🙄 Keep dreaming bud

[@brookingsbeachcomber]

we know the lady that got money must of had a camallla sign in her yard...

[@Arkansasfestus]

Is batman helpin

[@scottmalek3482]

It was God's will