WC3 | WB Final | [UD] Happy vs Starbuck [HU] | Dolphin Warcraft Championship Cup Western QLF

[@adon473]

love that u guys extend video duration to avoid spoilers. keep up the excellent work

[@Fluffypwoto]

@@adon473 sometimes they dont unfortunately but really good when they do !

[@lichking1362]

How can i see the full match ?

[@RobinOnTour]

Agreed

[@gor818]

For a happy game, this statement is usually the biggest spoiler 😂😂😂

[@phoenixlich]

One of the best series i've seen in years!

[@Biobin123]

@@phoenixlich did you watched bucky vs happy on betbom? If not, That was great too + lan. And “ walk” from buckky at the end epic

[@HiddenWen]

Starbuck's paly rifle micro is something to behold. Knows exactly which units to heal, when to drain mana, etc. Must be a nightmare to play against that.

[@tak08810]

@@HiddenWen yeah happy on the other hand still seems a little off. This is a lot better than last time they played but I think happy needs to do purely offensive coils on rifles. A lot of wasted damage on Bloodmage

[@HiddenWen]

​@@tak08810 Think he's afraid of getting coil/nova baited into a heal from paly. Though his decision making does feel a bit off.

[@FelixHirche]

Must also be a nightmare to play this. I get stressed out just from watching was Starbuck needs to do, lol.

[@stainie]

Always love hearing Carson's insight!

[@yrag89]

The additional of a co-caster was a great addition to this cast

[@alexanderschwenk8228]

Thank you so much for the spoiler shield - cant tell u how much i appreciate ur great work! GG - whar a series!

[@arnulfschnitzler4695]

We Love Back2Warcraft !!!

[@maxg9357]

Humans are the strongest race in Warcraft right now. 3 elementals are just imba. A whole army, consider it at the beginning of the game. You can cancel Undead on easy expansion. But you can't cancel Human. He builds a base in 20 seconds with 7 peasants, consider it an instant base.

[@BlunderStruckAgain]

What about CL's beetles (5, or is it 6 max?) and rod of necro? Also a whole army 😊

[@nightyonetwothree]

@@BlunderStruckAgain 3 we > 6 beetles. Also am get level 3 in seconds due to militia calls. Basically, level 2 we vs useless beetles level 1. And ranged 320ms hero vs mellee slow cl with low armor. Add militia and footies (which are stronger than ghouls)... And imba arcane tower buthering both summons and heroes. And powerbuild on top of a cake.

[@Алексей_Миронкин]

нужно добавить время перезарядки стафа, как минимум, можно увеличить немного стоимость стафа. 3 стафа-имба, имхо. даём коил+нова+фокус коня=1 конопка стафа на базу😅 и так 3!! раза. +хил паладина... гг

[@diyano2]

近期战绩：forti 3:2lyn, blade2:1 lyn， blade 2:1 120，starbuck 2:0 happy ，starbuck 3：1 happy，infi 3:0 kaho, infi 3:1 colorful .Congratulations to HU players for becoming much better players.

[@aristokrat8467]

pala rifles is crazyyyy

[@Biobin123]

@@aristokrat8467 and casters dissing pala rifle players was great too. “ slow like pala rifle players.” :)

[@theJuggler07]

Casters acting like pala rifle is an inferior strategy against UD it isn’t it’s painfully OP against ud. There’s not a single window which UD has advantage.

[@aristokrat8467]

@@theJuggler07 it just feels like a meme strat, u know

[@theJuggler07]

@@aristokrat8467 maybe in the past yeah but it’s been perfected now by so many people. Holy light always reaches the target (unlike coil which can miss). Holy light also costs less mana than coil. Add to that a bloodmage 2nd which takes all UD hero’s mana effortlessly and hands it to the pala for unlimited heals (which again can never miss) on already very tanky riflemen. You come close to killing a single unit or hero as UD? No problem, here let me banish you and save you since the UD hero’s have no mana so can’t use magic to kill you. It just honestly feels like it’s a very unbeatable strategy for UD. if you have any viable solutions come at me I’d love to hear them as a frustrated UD player

[@uioup7453]

​@@theJuggler07 If you are losing as an UD player then you genuinely shouldn't even play this game to begin with. Just admit that Happy played worse, it's not that difficult.

[@abdulkadir1990]

comment for the algorythm and big big thanks for the blackscreen. much love for you guys.

[@rafaortwein6646]

Wow, what a game. Sarbuck giving Happy so hard time, amazing to watch!

[@thewonderfulworld1445]

Starbuck just goes into a GOAT mode while playing versus Happy

[@maxg9357]

Humans are the strongest race in Warcraft right now. 3 elementals are just imba. A whole army, consider it at the beginning of the game. You can cancel Undead on easy expansion. But you can't cancel Human. He builds a base in 20 seconds with 7 peasants, consider it an instant base.

[@llllIIlIlI]

i just started playing warcraft 3 after the 2.0 update for the first time.. ever!! using these pro vods as guides, thank you

[@jraz6102]

Def don’t try to play like a pro, you need simple lower skill builds and later on when you are higher mmr copy the pros

[@jraz6102]

Regarding bnet. Don’t hold your breath

[@zinithin-8208]

Play on war3champions, bnet still sucks.

[@Looking-for-today]

Keep it up with the extended video. Truly appreciated for us

[@RappingManualYT]

Carson can think quite strategically, very adept in the subtlety of adversarial choice trees - honestly, pretty impressive! : ) : )

[@rcheezy7501]

Wow what an impressive win by Starbuck. It’s crazy how strong he’s looked lately

[@李华-p7r7h]

Is there anyone noticing that happy cancelled his base upgrade at 1:10:24, when it was almost done. This mistake is dumb and unacceptable and causes lich to death, cuz he couldn’t train dk

[@Karnor00]

Good spot.

[@Konatawins]

very high coefficient for starbuck victory. more profitable for happy to bet against himself and get x8 multiplier, also he gets qualified anyway

[@unix144]

Thanks a lot for black screen it makes watching much more enjoyable when I can't deduce who wins in the middle of the video!

[@Ken-fw7ue]

Holly cow I am so glad that there is competition for happy after the last year.

[@cameronhoss4039]

You always want happy to lose when he's on a win streak, but when he is losing you end up rooting for him.

[@llllIIlIlI]

who is the co caster with Neo? He is great!

[@Biobin123]

Carson is co caster.

[@SulthanMuhammad]

holy crazy starbuck is the dark horse of wc3

[@JustAnotherStar1990]

i love it that fortitude decides "i`m not part of this game" and goes drinking a coke somewhere in china on a chair in the sun

[@ImmortalityDenied]

Probably Lyn Happy and all ne players suddenly lost their skill, so good to see all humans get so good all together!

[@Biobin123]

Lyn won vs forty quite a few games and vs starbuck. Ne is in rough place

[@Peter-ir5fg]

@@ImmortalityDenied THIS IS INDEED A COINCIDENCE 🤣🙃🫠

[@GieV18]

I love when happy feeding Starbuck with his milions ghouls spam 🥰

[@mikek1402]

Super impressed by Starbuck, love watching him play!

[@Zach-sq1gs]

“No resources lost, just time” But time is our most important resource ☠️

[@ego1993]

Best fight what am ever watch , congratulations Starbuck 🎉🎉🎉

[@MortredMaul]

I love Carson as a Co-Caster. I hope I will meet you guys one day if I ever make it to RaRa.

[@kyrios0307]

All the games were full of action - quality!

[@rageburst]

I wonder what Happy will do in the coming games after everyone has seen this series. I think there was some pretty convincing domination.

[@teslation]

Wow game 1 happy defended rly rly good when he was about to lose

[@bisestile88]

Great performance

[@hassanhaddad3739]

For people who says it's only forti who became stronger suddenly

[@123pa1n]

Imagine losing with knights to ghouls, how cringe that would be, specialy when coil nova kills all of them

[@TheDeathlyG]

Game 3 was actually insane wtf

[@edgarkretschmann4753]

Where's the follow up?

[@AlexTalsma]

Thanks for the spoiler preventer!

[@josuepereira9782]

As a bronze rank player, I approve of pali rifle.

[@arhael3594]

So many cries about HU being OP, when outcome of the game has been decided by far better decision making on Buck combined with many mistakes from Happy.

[@Back2Warcraft]

I appreciate you

[@zukunftverstehen]

The sane were about undead when Happy won, yet this didn't prevent people from crying, flooding the comments with whines about "imba UD". The difference is that Neo (or whoever from the team) didn't like and comment these posts, but I'm glad he (or whoever from the team) did, cause this reveals the bias.

[@lieek]

Who won? It stoppet at 1hour 30mins too me

[@magusto627]

Insane games. Makes me want to play like this. But the mechanics doesn't follow in the fingers

[@XxskoolxX]

They really need to undo the nerubian nerf

[@dlux325]

Happy made a mistake cancelled T2 upgrade

[@Biobin123]

Spoiler: Game 1: 3:12 happy new bucky was coming full force for cancel start expanding ( start a bit before but he was seeing bucky army) 3:39 3 we and footies happy needs to wait 4-5 sec but starts expanding again and doesn’t even cancel also loses ghouls at hu expansion for not microing still easy game for ud Game 2: 30:14 sending first hero on suicide while starting expansion with 0 defense when hu must come for cancel, bb lich needs to get to base and get item forgets to micro loses all hp for nothing and bucky takes item… In every game you can see game losing low mmr plays yet when i say happy isn’t in his form suddenly i am evil… if this was bucky vs pink i would say pink is not in form for happy this is disaster. He needs to take 1-2 month off like lyn…

[@Back2Warcraft]

not saying youre wrong, but he did report input lag on wednesday - immediately after 2.0 hit. and knowing how peculiar he is with settings, and also knowing that the patch removed some settings that helped with mouselag in the past, this might have an influence also

[@Biobin123]

@ Oh thanks for telling. I really miss happy in his top form where he saved every ghoul etc… hopefully everything will be in place for next t1 tournament.

[@pedro1161]

​@@Biobin123 Well I dont miss anything Ultra dominance is just boring All tournaments this guy just win win and win Some competition IS NECESSARY for players, organizors, tournaments and viewers ! In recent years, Happy's dominance was unbeatable, it was just boring to watch any tournament he was playing.

[@Biobin123]

@ that wasn’t just because of happy skill. That was ud dominating . 120 vs happy all day long… I want a meta where races are balanced and anyone can win as long as they play well. Sending un upgraded ghouls from lumber to any base vs 10 towers and fully upgraded knights/bears was boring. Hopefully happy will get back in shape while ud gets balanced

[@4bafiafzil999]

​@@pedro1161If we are imposing penalty, or rather nerf on players who performed better than their peers, assuming balanced races, than what use of being competitive? Just let one guy be so good while others just play plain bad, then in the name of holy name of "balance changes", we intentionally handicapped the good players so inferior players could get chance to defeat them while retaining their low skill. Idk man kinda stink practice if you think about it

[@timurradman3999]

Starbuck played amazingly, but HU is still too OP

[@CaesarGREG]

1. Why happy was nuke Rifelman instead nuke Paladin? Paladin did not had Invul potion or skil. Happy usualy build dps on Lich to focus heroes and finish by Nuke, friends do reduced damage against heroes. 2.Why Happy did not take down shop, its potential source healing for Paladin, until he do not take shop its not big point focusing paladin. Focused paladin anyway to live must move back, so giving space and time for happy.

[@tak08810]

I really hope they don’t just hammer nerf Human because they’re winning occasionally against Happy, especially not to just keep the most popular Western player happy (pun intended)

[@zeroBRS]

They nerf UD because peoples refuse to believe is player's skill. Do you really think they will nerf HU because Happy and not cos Forti win 90% of the tournament after those recent HU buff?

[@Biobin123]

@@zeroBRS was it only happy that was wining t1 tournaments and other ud players were not even getting to grand finals? Or it was ud mirrors and 120 has achieved a lot too. So it most likely was race ? On the other hand name 1 hu player that won or at least was in grand finals of any t1 tournament since 2022 including 2024 other than forty? 1 player only doing it is race op 2 players doing it is skill?

[@Peter-ir5fg]

Yep. They want all top players to be Asian

[@tak08810]

@@Peter-ir5fg TIL Starbuck is Asian Blade in #5 btw I think this is first time maybe ever three European players in top 5? And not just farming regional tournies like xlord did lol

[@Peter-ir5fg]

@@tak08810 Starbuck is not Asian, indeed. But we should look, I think, at the numbers 🫠. European top players can be counted on the fingers of one hand. And now the question is: who will be the world's first place: Asia or Europe. Except Happy, noone can even pretend, unfortunately.

[@markeeeese]

he had 2 blacksmiths in the last game for double upgrades? :O

[@Dataraptor-v9l]

Could've left the post game interview

[@YTperico]

happy insists on starting with Lynch

[@emirerdinckala4514]

Lol I was not expecting that

[@ShadowDatsas]

legend

[@cadukizzi]

The human race is overpowered in so many units that I don't even know what should be nerfed first. This is ridiculous.

[@timurradman3999]

Imagine that they lost the AM on game 1 and managed to recover and pressure the UD expo back lol

[@maxg9357]

you need to make the archmage summon 1 elemental maximum like the farseer 2 wolves at the same time. you also need to significantly increase the recharge for the staff and disable automatic healing when teleporting a unit. teleporting tanks should be banned altogether (only living units)

[@СергейДиденко-к1щ]

Human is too strong race now. Who will be unbalanced next patch, NE may be?😅

[@stinkyfish8357]

1:13:45 fuckin hilarious I never heard neo say that ever

[@Dgvgjvcbjjcxdfvbjjbcc]

Just too overpowering staf! Its noness best item in the game.

[@ladovacobecny]

Be like water my friend ... :) (Bruce)

[@zukunftverstehen]

Human is OP!

[@theJuggler07]

No denying Starbuck is a beast of a player and im happy of how much he’s improved but at the same time Human is ridiculously overpowered in this patch. As a casual gamer it’s really frustrating playing against Human. Human players only weakness is lumber but what the forget is the reason they have lumber issues in the early game is because they use militia to creep BIG spots or fast expo.

[@Vikkk07]

Pala rifle is so OP. I play against human that play poorly on the ladder, but really , what an Undead can do about it ...

[@donshep2305]

Butchers, at least 2-3 , then coil-nova sht out of HUM.

[@Vikkk07]

@@donshep2305you can’t. Pala heal is instant, and your mana goes away in 15 seconds with bloodmage. At the same level, it’s uncounterable.

[@donshep2305]

@@Vikkk07 as UD you want have 2 obsidians. And stay at blight for mana regen

[@Vikkk07]

@@donshep2305 It didn't worked for Happy in this game, i reallly doubt it will for me :p I mean, at the same level, you can't really do shit. If you opponent Elo is way lower than yours, then you have a chance.

[@Biobin123]

@@Vikkk07 Happy made quite some mistakes… 1. He knew what strat he was facing and while had a time needed to get lich lvl 2 but did not. 2. When he finally overpowered starbuck he stopped microing losing a destro, statue and abbo in quick succession and later losing another abo for miss micro. You can’t afford that… According to back2wc3 happy reported technical issue so there is that…

[@jeanclaudemaggle4989]

ngl feels good to see happy loosing ....

[@Alexbeebeep]

No balanse . Fix it

[@redouaneortiz4917]

Yes human are op but happy did many silly mistakes too...

[@AnglerArizona928]

Pally rifle baby!

[@zhiro12]

Are really Humans crying for human to not get a nerf? LMAO…. human getting a nerf GUARANTEED! No way out its ridiculously un balanced

[@Swiss_Gamer_Dad]

Starbuck is amazing, but the balance is heavily in favor of this this MU. The fast build, , militia duration, the water elementals, everything is just overbuffed and it becomes more noticeable with every additional game played. It becomes very boring to see HU dominating every cup they play.

[@ghost_sauron]

This games are a show off, how come it doesn’t have the star?

[@eoLithic187]

happa got shrekt and erekt

[@dsn1846]

starbuck is really good. best player

[@zukunftverstehen]

Starbuck is a mediocre, but he turned to play human, and start winning right away.

[@mentra-8790]

What do you need to live >>>> one: a family secound warcraft 3 😜🥳🥳🥳

[@destroyer5859]

Go warcraft 3❤❤❤

[@miladkhodayar3232]

Amazing game, great gameplay both 👍

[@LightY59]

Starbuck 💪 very strong player ! Infi/starbuck 2 best rdm race

[@k8shen480]

This human race is so nerfed that nobody except happy wouldn’t win this match. So blizzard you failed again. Change it soon, it is bizarre! It is not interesting any more!!!!

[@DreLeila]

Why people keep playing human lmao

[@jonathandunbar7721]

gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[@pinksuit4560]

Happy 100x more talented than starbuck, human hust imba vs ud broken match

[@KyawKyaw-b2y5n]

happy just change race.never play that ud anymore.no ud player will champion anymore

[@thedanielfux]

HUMANS is OP OP :D :/ :/ :/ Why???? Paladin Heal 600/65m 5s. vs DK Heal 600/75m 6s. Bloodmage is better better better that Demon Hunter Archmage 2x(3x) elements is better Farsear 2x wolfs Mountinking is best hero in W3 (Aoe dmg + stun all big dmg) Human have multi building, easy canceled other expo and easy build expo Knight is best mobiliti unit dmg/hp/armor/small/faster to is Grifin Tanks is best "katapult" and militia too :D 3x STAFF SStier item + healing HP and more and more and more Human have all bonuses to others Race :D In hero and units and artefacts, it is crazzy Why not have staff Undead and Orcs? Why is Paladin better that DK? Why is Humans only Humans OP OP OP OP OP Brutal OP???? :D Why? :D All human players versus Happy have no that ultra hardcore game, elves, orcs, undeads others players never have chance versus Happy and all Humans have. :D WTF!? (No *S Lyn and Er0)

[@Mikall322]

Ok, nerf Ne

[@nightyonetwothree]

too ez for human race to faceroll over ud. While foggy played ne, starbuck being a racepicker did just a 100% winning move - pick human everytime he faces ud

[@Biobin123]

@@nightyonetwothree Star buck pick hu only vs ud? Or star buck always picks hu and picks orc to avoid hu mirrors? From what i see bucky is exclusively hu player + orc as mentioned

[@tak08810]

@@Biobin123Starbuck was trying orc vs UD mass wyverns but quickly learned Orc is horrible vs UD unless UD playing with no hands or you are Lyn God of WC3 Also btw Starbuck did used to beat happy when he randomed UD in mirror match

[@nightyonetwothree]

@@Biobin123 starbuck never picked ud vs human, but prefer orc vs human and human vs all others. Just picked strongest non-mirrors available.

[@uioup7453]

And who beat Foggy? Hint: Anyone who picked UD

[@josenunez313]

Thank God you are among these comments. Average HU players defeating any UD player with the same strats. Same! I mean, only smart people like us, and Happy, know they nerfed the whole race just because of him. That's kinda an honor, but is becoming some sort of BS, because he has to play at his full every time. HU players do the stupid same AM-WE fast expo-expo cancel, pali-rifles, because they know it is so complicated to counter the most Op race. It is like using a character in an arcade fighting game like saitama, right clicking punches, beating every race with the same strat.

[@herardpique7302]

ez