We Drive the New Gen4 Coyote Crate Engine from Ford Performance! Dual or Single Throttle Body!

[@CJColvin]

Gotta love the legendary 5.0L Coyote V8.

[@machdaddy6451]

IMO the Coyote engine is doing for Ford what the Small Block has done for Chevy.

[@Olds_Pwr]

13 years is legendary? 😂

[@CJColvin]

@@machdaddy6451 Correct

[@CJColvin]

@Olds_Pwr Yep you got it brother

[@bastee2727]

@@Olds_Pwrdominating at the strip since 2011, yes 😊

[@jackflash6377]

Thanks for bringing us the good stuff. I would love to have that 66 Fairlane on the poster. We had a 67 Fairlane Wagon when I was young and later in high school I helped my best friend rebuild his small block in a 66 - 67 Fairlane. Good memories!

[@mikecurtis2585]

Love that Coyote 5.0! Always very strong and love that Coyote sound! My favorite channel for a Ford content!

[@jimmymccormick142]

What me and all my Ford power forever friends is Ford to let us be able to tune the gen4 because we have gotten spoiled with the great HP we have able to get from the gen 123 versions of the great coyote engines thank you Evan for all the great content always keep on bringing it for all of us Ford power forever baby guys and girls

[@ScotDouglas]

That's what the 4X will allow you to do: Gen4 engine on a Gen3 controller.

[@freedomfighter5054]

No, it’s because of these communist Nazi climate jackasses they don’t want you to have a V-8 and don’t want you to tune

[@Spad68]

We have a good trying to set that up locally. Gen 3 pc on gen 4 motor

[@ScotDouglas]

@@Spad68 Have fun!

[@treyrags]

Thanks for the update. Fomoco continues to be the leader in factory performance

[@cyclonekevin6199]

That 4X be perfect for my 96 F-150

[@crispyone2564]

I worked for Roush over there for a few years in mid 2010s. There’s so much cool Ford engineering going on in that area

[@Shaw.77]

Best mustang content out there. Great job.

[@revanevan]

Thank you! Much appreciated.

[@HaveMercyMotors]

If you've met Ford friends in this area, and gotten a ride in something with a manufacturer plate. This captures that vibe perfectly! Thanks for taking me back.

[@terrygrover6440]

Evan another great video, I just wanted to take time to thank you for all you do and have done in the past for the racing and performance community, much respect for you and wanted to take time to tell you , appreciate you

[@revanevan]

Thanks Terry, much appreciated.

[@CJColvin]

I wish Ford would offer the legendary 5.0L Coyote V8 in the Ford Expedition as an option just like the F150.

[@DWH300]

@CJColvin. Ford has to limit the use of the Coyote V8 engines to balance their fleet mpg numbers along with their carbon emission numbers. One of the main reasons Dodge discontinued the Hemi besides it's terrible EPA and mpg numbers was Dodge's overusing it by putting it in most of their vehicles from the Challenger, Charger, Chrysler 300, jeeps, Rams and Durango with the only exception being the Pacifica. This cost Stellantis millions of dollars in mpg fines. Using it in a limited format keeps the Coyote available for future use in the Mustang and the F-150. Crate engines fall in a different category.

[@CJColvin]

@@DWH300 True

[@twotrackjack2260]

​@@CJColvinSo if you do the swap yourself, you're unlikely to see many more like it 👍🏻

[@CJColvin]

@@twotrackjack2260 Correct

[@ericdanielson1138]

Those tips are for test monitoring and in building exhaust evacuation tube's. Use to get to see alot of neat stuff at the Ford test track in naples Florida before they sold it to HD. Also saw some neat cycle stuff but that's 2 wheel weird things.

[@revanevan]

Thanks.

[@dwaynesullivan-qo2iz]

Glad to see ford stepping up it's game

[@fernandochaves9665]

Nice to know what's new in the Ford Performance world. That Hertz Shelby is hotter than hell.

[@mchristr]

Love the Coyote but it's not just about buying the engine. If you're swapping into an earlier car or truck the peripherals (oil pan, air box/ducting, exhaust system, cooling system, fuel system, etc.) easily add another $5k. That salvage yard Explorer pushrod 5.0 is starting to look pretty good.

[@gq_905]

Hopefully for will make the control pack with a tach output. Would make life so much easier

[@metalted6128]

Speed density, from ford goes back to the 1987 GT. 5.0. Super simple, And it works, Love it!

[@metalted6128]

Ford performance car!!! S197 with the drivers door panel, cover missing!! Perfect!!! They worry about performance, first!! Absolutely love it!! Btw just redid my 08 gt, door panels!!

[@SHADOWBLACKs650]

Remember the power packs from Ford motorsports? Would love to be able to buy one for my 2024, they make the cars pretty nasty after you flash the computer with the Ford Motorsport tune.... I had it on my 17 and I had it on the 21 and I love them.

[@joshkolden9103]

I would like to see a factory supercharged or twin turbo aluminum block 7.3 Godzilla. Maybe in the next GT500?

[@frankenstein01]

imagine still thinking about that engine

[@PeeterPuncher]

not gonna happen.

[@PeeterPuncher]

All well and good untill the oil pump drive belt fails. BTW those exhaust tips have marmon flanges for quick hookup to chassis dyno instrumantation.

[@Axeman428]

And how many have failed ?

[@The-fs5wn]

@@Axeman428probably only a handful. Guys spewing shit out his ass. The gen 1 and 2 had decently rare oil pump gear problems, but those have been ironed out.

[@PeeterPuncher]

To you it doesnt matter what is a garbage design....it's the matter of when not if.

[@lteske2]

The flanges on the exhaust tips(?) are for hook-up to emissions testing equipment. I worked on the CAFE system as a contractor for Ford.

[@MichaelGoodwin-hg9qh]

The Gen 4 Mustang Coyote do not utilize the truck Coyote belt. Mustang Coyote still uses the gear driven off of the crankshaft.

[@michaelmarsella6839]

Great job Ford Performance but Need to get tuning unlocked for gen4 5.0l and 2023 f150 3.5l love my 2023 f150 3.5, but the skip shift 1-3 shift sucks and it's dangerous pulling out of a street on a busy road and it skips to 3rd just hoping Ford is reading comments. Good job, Evan

[@HoneyBadgerRy]

They don't skip shift in sport mode.

[@swifty3177]

Great Ford content as usual Evan...Did I read the engine specs right? Did Ford switch to a Kevlar belt in this next generation Coyote engine to function the oil pump?, Wow...Maybe you can do a story for the gearheads on billet oil pump gears which prevent engine harmonics when installing a supercharger that produces over 700 hp,and how the Kevlar belt came about.Could be very interesting.Keep up the good work!!!

[@briskettaco]

This guy is non-stop charisma.

[@fopeezy3097]

That mule care is CLEAN !!!!💎 😁

[@CJColvin]

This would be a really great for an old school F100 or even a Mercury M100 as well as 67 Meteor Rideau 500 2 door fast back.

[@liquidsmokemustang1537]

Nice. You answered my first question…can a ‘15 6R80 be swapped to a 10R80? Did they address the weak points though? OPG’s? Is this sleeved, forged rods/pistons? And is this 4X port/direct injection only? I may be asking too soon @ 7:00 in.

[@kenmiller5954]

super charged Godzilla crate with trans package and 4x4 transfer case any new straight axles front and rear for off-road performance

[@sergebasque8460]

Evan is the Gen 4X speed density also like the new Gen4 S650 , or only mass-air like my Gen2 2017 GT. I’am surprise by installing longtube header only on the new S 650 mustang a few mustang owner’s was making 30 hp +. Thanks Evan.💪👍😎🇨🇦

[@MichaelGoodwin-hg9qh]

Gen 4X is a mass air system. M-6017-M50HA is the auto control pack. M-6017-M50HM is the manual control pack.

[@freddunbar]

Are there any CARB legal options for swapping these Coyote's or even the Godzilla into older smog controlled OBD I or II platforms?

[@yaboykris2118]

Here’s a request to Ford Performance: Please please PLEASE make a DOHC performance version of the old SOHC 6.2L. And make go fast parts for the 6.2L.

[@yaboykris2118]

@@B49nope I know this. But still.

[@Spad68]

That would be awesome.

[@metalted6128]

Why??? Your ignorance to production is astounding. Why would they??? Cause you want it?? Wow that’s Ignorant!!

[@yaboykris2118]

@@metalted6128 I know they never will. But you miss 100 percent of the shots you don’t take.

[@yaboykris2118]

@@metalted6128 whats ignorant is assuming you know someone when you actually don’t.

[@GTP427cobra]

Thanks for the up date on the Coyote I have in my GT love it

[@lancehowlett3910]

What I want. A front sump performance oil system for Godzilla swaps into early Mustangs!

[@fgialcgorge7392]

Man, I'd love to see a next gen Voodoo engine. Even swap kit to with the essentials to swap a standard coyote over to flat plane crank. I love the rumble of the coyote but nothing makes me happier than ringing my engines neck up near 9k rpms. Especially on track days pulling up next to someone and still pulling past as they're switching gears.

[@tyronemcintyre3278]

Keep the Ford Performance video coming.

[@marcasswellbmd6922]

Me personally I went with a Gen 2 Coyote.. No DI crap one throttle body 1 MAF sensor.. Just flat out less issues to worry about down the road.. I didn't know it at the time but I couldn't have made a better decision unless I had more money to go with a 2021 GT350.. I could go on and on about why i like the Gen 2 Gt's the best but my main reason's are the looks and most of all the Arc of the motor.. Finally from the front they look more like the shelby's.. I'm planning on going with a Whipple so the HP argument is moot.. And finally I'll end with this, no offense to other's and what they have.. I am not a Ford or a GM guy I like chevy's too and to each his own.. Get what makes you happy.. But for the last time for those who know the Gen 2 is like the best kept secret when it comes to making good power with the least amount of Headaches..

[@xjmd09]

Great video indeed! I’ve got questions, not introduced in the video, such as can the 6r80 automatic transmission work with these crate engines? I have a 2017 Roush Nitemare RCSB with the 6r and when the supercharged 4X crate engine becomes available, this swap is perfect for me. Also, the supercharger make, wasn’t specified! Will the SC crate engine have the Whipple 3.0?

[@revanevan]

Yes you can!

[@joshuastamper641]

When will tuning be available for s650’s?

[@dugganracecraft]

So will the Gen 4 short block be interchangeable with different generation cylinder heads like the Gen 3 was? And in the truck short block the same as the Mustang even though it has DOD?

[@MichaelGoodwin-hg9qh]

Current truck 21MY+ 5.0L short block is different than the Mustang short block. Gen 4 Mustang short block is interchangeble with previous generation heads.

[@michaelfercik3691]

The Preditor crate engine with the dual clutch transmission and control pack to run both in a hot rod build or for the more modern Mustangs, would be just the ticket to easily put my 1996 Mustang GT into the low tens or high nines in the quarter mile. Of coarse the right suspension is being worked on now before looking for the engine/transmission combo for a quick Pro Streeter Mustang that is Built Ford Tuff for the reliability of many miles on the highways with racing it when needed, because if you got it, it would be a shame not to use and enjoy it.

[@jordanmeredith993]

Could we get this in the Ranger raptor enegine bay?

[@metalted6128]

Check out Snot Rocket!! Stock block, stock crank, overall winner of sick week 2024. Drag and drive event. SR, beat up the billet block BBC boosted pro mods!! Amazing Mustang, coyote powered!! Whipping pro mods!!!

[@shaneswayze6228]

Awesome video REVan..did you get the KUNTZ poster .I haven't heard from you about it

[@revanevan]

I haven’t received anything.

[@mysticj0]

Gen 4x seems like a Gen 3.5. And as for the Gen4, one can probably use a 87mm TB and block off the other TB port to be able to run MAF ecm.

[@kcav5374]

Evan I wonder if you have any info about the coyote twin turbo Mustang that if I'm not mistaken ran some 6.20's and 6.30's at speeds of 216-220 MPH recently in a drag & drive event.

[@CoyoteAUS]

Are the pistons and rods upgraded compared to what's in a gen 3 coyote? If so how much power could this block take relatively safely?

[@revanevan]

I believe they are the same and people put blowers on all day and make 700-850 hp reliability. Of course, you could make 600, mistreat it and break the engine. Reliability always comes down to being responsible with tune and how you drive.

[@ablejohnson]

Ford, Bring back the Boss 351C

[@uptobatentertainment]

Does anyone know if the steel oil pan from the Gen 4 ‘24 will fit a Gen 3 18-23 ?

[@ChrisNeusetzer]

I am driving a Bone Stock 2022 Mach1 with the six speed manual. Any recommendations to give it some more zip.

[@revanevan]

Honestly, unless you’re going to supercharger I’d leave it alone. You can do headers, tune, CIA, etc but it’s a lot of money.

[@craigg4246]

Does the gen4 crate engine have the rubber belt oil pump drive like the production engines? If so, is a hard pass for me!

[@revanevan]

Gear-driven pump like older Coyote in a Mustang.

[@FrequencyOfThought]

So if you wanted to build a Coyote these days how big of a deal is it to start off with the gen 4 to the gen 3?

[@dalelangley5251]

I would love to see you do a video on a forced induction Godzilla engine ; that would be absolutely insane ! 👌👍

[@WalkerSmallEnginePerformance]

Did the use a F&B mini bike exhaust for those tips?😂

[@CJColvin]

Basically the Gen 4X makes the same power and torque as the Gen 3.

[@midnight347]

Only difference is its locked down and you can't tune it lol. It's a step backwards.

[@brandonjones2565]

He said you can tune the X

[@tturi2]

it's a brand new engine you don't need to worry about dodgy engine builders and machine shops who shouldn't be anywhere near machinery

[@thesoundofmypeople]

Does the gen4 fix the opg and cs issues from the past gens?

[@rafaelhidalgo7103]

Love the coyote but I wish ford would make a 3v ready for boost for those who don't want to do everything else that comes with a swap

[@andrewslagle1974]

I second that one!

[@marcasswellbmd6922]

3:48 This is a perfect video of why I tell people Long Tube Headers are a Waste of Money and People hate me for it!! But just look! The stock headers are perfect!! You will make the same power just pulling the cats and keeping the stock headers vs spending 4K on long tubes and pulling the cats.. To me Long tubes are a huge waste of money. Just pull the cats and replace them with fast cats/High Flow or pull them and put mid pipes in and you will get the same power a basically the same sound! And for the record I'm not knocking what anyone has, To each their own.. I have a friend who just had to have a Honda Type R.. I tried talking sense to him but he had to have it so get want suits you and have fun life is to short.. Oh and Save the Manuals.. And if you have Long Tubes enjoy. I just want the people on tighter budgets to know it's the cats, not the stock headers at all.. And if you don't go to the track you don't need more than 650 to 700 wheel for the street.. That kind of power gets most people in trouble or crashed if there's no track near them to let it out on...

[@hoffa2586]

Ford, does a 5.0 CARB legal “e-Rod” package exist? I’m not seeing it. GM has a very nice offering and I would hope FORD could do the same. My 1980 fox Mustang needs smog legal V8 swap!

[@MichaelGoodwin-hg9qh]

M-9000-M50AE is the 'Eco 5.0' package. Constrained on engines currently. Working on a solution.

[@crispyone2564]

What about oil pump gears?

[@jamievanacker2506]

Do these Gen 4 engines have the belt driven rear mounted oil pumps like the 21+ F150 coyotes or is it still the same as the Gen 3 with the front mount with no belt?

[@728GT]

No belt

[@jamievanacker2506]

@@728GT 👍🏼

[@revanevan]

Gear-driven pump on these.

[@johnriley3853]

It uses a internal belt to run the oil pump.

[@earleholt4380]

Wonder if that would fit in my '64 without cutting up the shock towers?

[@revanevan]

I don’t believe it will. But a Godzilla will fit.

[@andrewslagle1974]

no way will it fit !

[@jeffwinchell3927]

Very exciting 👍👍👍

[@KILL3Rnav6]

I'm doing a gen 4X Coyote in my 2010 Mustang GT

[@dipstickmotorsports]

Nice, how's the swap going? I'm thinking of upgrading my 2014 gen 1 with one of these instead of trying to build a 3-2-1

[@jasoncarr551]

Drop it in a sport Trac Adrenaline AWD with the stock 6R80. I volunteer mine.

[@randysrestoration]

Awesome 😎!

[@msk3905]

Ok a bit off topic but i just tried to look up the price of this at summit and saw the Edelbrok supercharged coyote gen3 long block, are they kidding me with the $33,200? Are they smoking crack asking this much for one?

[@brandonjones2565]

Will the 2020 GT500 blower drop right on top

[@revanevan]

Yes

[@95Sn95]

Something that baffles me as popular as fox bodys are that's not on the mainstream market there is no supercharger intakes for 8.2" 5.0, there are piles of people that would toss an Eaton 112 terminator take off seems there tons out there for around $1000 or a manifold for a modern whipple. Sucks only the yote and mod guys get whipples.. Harrop recently released a new dual screw supercharger kit but it's like $12.000 so that's not even hardly anybody's radar. I would love to hear that evil whine in my 95.

[@ppernett1]

What do we want to see from fomo? A stroker kit for the coyote and for crying out load make a 427 version! That would be a beast!

[@TD-047]

I'd like to see what that dual throttle body would do on a VooDoo.

[@rynev3392]

Do all the gen 4 coyote engines have belt driven oil pumps?

[@revanevan]

No, these have a gear-driven oil pump.

[@thesoundofmypeople]

Have they fixed the brittle opg problems that used to shatter under boosted builds with the previous gen coyotes?

[@Spad68]

Get Lund on board . They are the only coyote tuners I trust.

[@TheF1shh]

Gen 4 doesn't matter until you can tune it.

[@stevefowler2112]

Gen 4 PCM's are "locked down"...lol, not if you are a Computer/Software Engineer who works for America's largest defense contractor and was a Principal Engineer on the F35's Flight Dynamics and Battle Space Management Sensor Software Suites. Just give me some sniffer software and cheap x86X computing power and I can quite easily force my way past any commercial automotive control unit's security.

[@billymania11]

If you say so.

[@tommybally03]

I would love to see a drop in solution for all the F150s with terrible 4.6 & 5.4 engines. Love the trucks but not the engines, they need the 5.0l.

[@Olds_Pwr]

With only 307 cubes, it would be nice if Ford could have taken it up to over 400.

[@baby-sharkgto4902]

That 4 valve motor would be insane with 400 CI’s, itd be awesome!!

[@the666bud]

I love the 7.3 Godzilla but it is just the re-engineered LS I know I get hate for it but just give me a good old 289 302 pushrod with no computer and electronic bulshit I just like the cruise down the road Flowmaster singing

[@jeffschwartz5199]

Gee I've got an 07 GT convertible with still under 20,000 miles .🤔

[@terryburton971]

Love FORDS I WANT ONE TO PUT IN A FORD RANGER

[@jamesgeorge4874]

Rubber oil pump belt, inside the engine on these units, or is that F150 only ?

[@revanevan]

Gear-driven, not the belt.

[@jamesgeorge4874]

@@revanevan Sweet. I know the first and second generation were just like the Triton, driven right off the crank snout. The pursuit of fuel milage has brought variable displacement, chain and belt driven units, that add complications, that not everyone wants...

[@utahcountypicazospage5412]

That rev hang was horrible when he was revving 😂

[@revanevan]

I actually told him to hold it and then rev it, then I realized someone would comment. The tune was perfect.

[@Situation_coyote]

That’s not a gen4. I mean we can call it a Gen 4 but it’s a gen3 with basically gt350 heads. Not a truck gen4. It’s more like a gen3.5. Same gen 3 block from 2018. You can use a gen 3 control pack to tune the so called gen4

[@BNDTO5_Reggie]

I might be the only one but I want a 6.8 crate too. Even with a cast crank.❤

[@grabindragin3307]

Still wondering why Ford abandoned the 6.2 and didn't develop it into a proper 4 valve motor 🤔

[@kendalllove7445]

This would be a great engine if it had more cubic inches

[@robertpatton7442]

Put out something that is emissions legal, and it would really open up our swap options all over, say 1996 and older bodies or hopefully even newer.

[@mfjones2217]

Get rid of DIRECT INJECTION, just sell a 500hp gen 2 How strong is this gen 4 block, does it need sleeves over 1,000hp

[@bastee2727]

Tunable or not ..

[@freedomfighter5054]

Ford is just beating shit out of that 5.0 motor even in the super snake used to get a 6.250 now what is supercharger guy can’t you come out with a big block

[@427cidpower]

Locked PCMs FTL 😢

[@bobqzzi]

That's a very reasonable price for the engines

[@BitcoinTo150K]

Too bad the 2015-2017 5.0 were only like $6k so half price and can hold the most horsepower of all 5.0's. I made 940whp for 4 years before selling it. Sucks getting old when you start hearing lesser parts doubling in price but such is life. Quality always goes downhill when they figure out they overbuilt

[@Spad68]

The only question that we all want to know . Otherwise it's completely useless to us all. Come on Evan. You're got pull. Get Ford to WTFU and unlock those pc.

[@williamjones3603]

A 7.3 all aluminum block in a new mustang pls. No all digital dashboard pls.

[@cobracharmer6178]

9 1/2 quarts. 😳

[@the666bud]

And just to make you talk s*** and mad my 93 Fox still has a four-cylinder in it all original virgin car Hate Me Now I love it

Cheaper to buy a a donor car or truck. Ford always makes pricing for these create engine stupid high.

[@revanevan]

Used engines are always cheaper and have their place, but this engine comes with a 2-year/24,000 mile warranty and Ford will work with owners since not everyone installs the engine the day they get it. Remember, you're getting a brand new engine vs a used engine.

@@revanevan yeah and a single cab F150 with the same engine and a ten speed with a better warranty, all the work done and a nice truck is 33k

[@CJColvin]

Now Evan, of the Mustang is so good then how come Ford didn't invest enough money into the Mercury brand back in 05 to create the new Cougar with the retro styling looks just like the S197 Mustang back in 05 and just like the newer Mustangs have the same 5.0L Coyote V8 but make it 530 HP version of the Cougar vs 480 HP for the Mustang GT and 500 HP for the Dark Horse 🐎?

[@revanevan]

I'm sure Ford market research determined that it would not be a big seller in a time when many people wanted big SUVs. But that's just my guess.

[@CJColvin]

@@revanevan True or the fact that it would be competing against each other as well but who knows.

[@crispyone2564]

I’m switching back to ford for my next car. These Audis are too expensive to blow up

[@the666bud]

And when I break down on the side of the road I can fix it and bring it home I don't need no laptop and all that b*******