We Finally Bought the Most Powerful Locomotive in Railroads Online!

Hey everyone back with Railroads Online! Today Hyce and I finally bought the strongest engine in the entire game to use as a helper for getting up steep hills! I've never bought this locomotive before so it is super exciting to finally have one!
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[@stormrider2156]

if you ever get a heisler you should name it the "hyce"ler

[@efectedwall5527]

Ausome yes 100% agree

[@superwaygames]

I think they already did the

[@TheCryptYard]

Nope I disagree I still want it to be the Last Hope

[@lazypizzaship8911]

Took the text right outta my keyboard

[@fainfawn7641]

Pretty sure that was their plan in an older playthrough

[@ypungy1138]

The shay is actually a pretty good shunting engine, because it's so slow, you can run faster than it. So you can set it and let it run while running ahead to set switches

[@lazypizzaship8911]

I use 2 so they can run the sawmill and lumber camp 10/10 would recommend

[@hunterz9743]

or use the shay as an around the world transportation vehicle with only caboses. so that people can acces industries in realism

[@ypungy1138]

​@@hunterz9743 Ive actually got it hooked up with a Betsy Mk2, doing pretty much this. Betsy is just for going a bit faster in the long stretches between industrys

[@mr.blackrose2177]

I said this on Hyces vid as well but an idea for using the Shay would be to use it to push cars on the hump, it has plenty of tractive effort and speed isn’t really need then the shay has a purpose and gives you something to do with it could even name it “Shumpty Dumpty” lol 8:17

[@ulrichkalber9039]

just watch out that Shumpty Dumpty does not fall off the wall.

[@TheBaldrickk]

Shumpty? Shunty is the better name, surely?

[@matthewcox7985]

Regarding the brush trimmers mentioned around 18:30 or so: There's a "helicopter saw" used by some power utilities to clear trees and branches along the transmission lines.

[@TarisSinclair]

I'm watching both kAN's and Hyce's videos, perfectly synchronized .. having both perspectives to their TEDx Talk is fun! (but kAN's cutting out parts of the footage makes it quite challenging, I had to resync like 4 or 5 times)...

[@Zanzopan]

Love how kAN totally forgot the brake and immediately after he released it the train movement increased a lot and no one commented on it. 38:29

[@OG_Casual_Tryhard]

I'd like to see an army of betsies tackle the 10% with something idk. The thought of like, 8 betsies pulling a monster load makes me giggle

[@WibleWobble]

Watching you guys do this is probably the most relaxing while still really informative podcast I have ever seen

[@kashton-pb7pc]

I love watching yalls videos and learning more about the railroad industry its something i find as intersting as cars and something id find fun to work on or learn to drive one day

[@danielgamboa1200]

Hey just wanted to say that love the videos. Especially 'cuz is like a podcast you don't necesarily have to watch and still enjoy it. Great conversation topics. Keep it going! Greetings to Hyce!

[@statelyelms]

Within less than two minutes "So, we just bought a fancy new train and I parked it right here and now it has mysteriously disappeared" "I swear I put the brake on!" "Look at this artistic pile of derailed stake cars" Yep, just another day at the Central Rio and Pacific..

[@spruce6323]

I said it before, but why not make the Shay your dedicated hump locomotive. It being so slow wont matter when its literally only moving cars that need put away. A good name for it would be 1-Hump-Chump, Snail, or King of CR&P Hill. The last is a nod to your poop stories, maybe have it pull a Waycar that can be the hump yard crew outhouse. Name the caboose CR&P House.

[@snazz1363]

1 Hump Chump is a hilarious name but something tells me it wont get picked lmao

[@statelyelms]

A railway near me does that reenactment too! McAdam Railway Station (please look at it. It's a stunning chateau station that's being restored by the small local community) offered small touring passenger trips and did some stuff with horses, people bording the train etc. I didn't get to see that when I got to go, but my parents did on the dinner trip.

[@sidewinder_076]

Love the vids, also hyse sounds like matpat from game theory

[@googleandyoutubeareevil]

I like how kAN has the brakes on the Climax when Hyce is pushing with the Heisler. 10/10 will laugh again.

[@alexwalkervlogs]

heisler? you mean class 48 right or did i miss something?

[@googleandyoutubeareevil]

@@alexwalkervlogs The Goat is what I meant.

[@ulrichkalber9039]

clearing the growth: to clear the growth next to electricity lines helicopters are used that carry an arrangement of several disk-saws above of each other. the helicopter flies along the electricity line so that the disk-saws cut all bushes that have grown to close to the EL.

[@67harp]

Hi Kan, Hi to Hyce as well. I watch you guys' videos all the time. Was reading the Steam updates for Railroads Online and see we are getting coal burning.

[@user-uv4xm1lw9c]

Wow amazing info from hyce didnt know his family goes all the way back

[@coreytaggart128]

Have to admit Railroads Online is a very nice backdrop to kAN and Hyce talk about trains.

[@Rararawr]

Climax with no sand looks like me at every stop sign on a snowy day. We can spin the tires a bit, as a treat

[@alexwalkervlogs]

as a treat got me dying

[@hunterz9743]

kan the reason why more load makes the train slip less is because the point of attachment of the load is higher than the center of the wheels and so more force is send to the rear wheels and less on the front which creates more friction between the wheels and rails.

[@TotallyNotAFox]

We in Germany use Unimog trucks with train wheel attachments that have cutting tools on their crane arm to cut back bushes and branches next to the track.

[@Arik-2103]

Tbf, the Unimog is one of the most versatile vehicles on earth

[@A.a.s.t.o.r.the.radio.demon.]

I love when kan shoves the climax in full reverse and instantly making it wheelslip

[@abeldahlin1994]

Amazing videos kAN hope you’re doing well.

[@kollinspencer847]

yes finally the climax i love it ive been waiting for the climax to a pear

[@gogofuntime_yt]

I actually really like that name, rolls off the tongue nice and fits perfect.

[@Lemon1208.]

Thank you for telling me that the climax is a really good helper engine me and my dad been looking for a good helper engine to get to the iron mine😊❤

[@YurtFerguson]

Fun fact for you Kahn. The most recent dev news update revealed that they are introducing coal fired locos with coal towers that will have to be supplied by the coal mine!

[@ironhorsethrottlemaster5202]

Hey Kan I think you should put a sanding refueling Depot at that flat section I should have told you guys that the climax sucks as a helper I've tried it before but I thought they would have fixed it by now the sand runs out really fast for some stupid reason and it loses traction at 100% throttle heisler's work better as helpers in my opinion in this game also class 70s are the best at helpers hands down good luck you guys too bad you can't go to a prior save before you bought the climax

[@kleetus92]

That's actually a really good call.... do a save before purchasing a new engine and try it out in case it turns out to be a giant turd in terms of in game functionality.

[@ValentineC137]

the Climax can pul 201klbs up a 6.5, when the class 70 can only do 155klbs and the Heisler is at 130klbs and the class 48 can do 105klbs

[@ironhorsethrottlemaster5202]

@@ValentineC137 yeah I'm paper but in practice that's another thing in the game that locomotive has some serious glitches it runs out of sand way too fast and no geared locomotive would do a burnout like that if you went Full Throttle that's seriously the stumbling block for that locomotive in this game they need to remodel the climax or scrap that model entirely and make a 3 truck Climax and make it useful I just want the 2662 unitah railway articulated steam locomotive and that will be the greatest helper of them all is it the Tank Engine and it doesn't have any Tinder weight anyways peace out

[@sortius_]

Looks like someone needs to send some torque curves to Kan. 😂

[@xanderthegrape9213]

A cool analogy could be when a pickup is hauling a full trailer vs without The truck without is lighter in the rear end so the wheels have less traction

[@Game_Blox9999]

But a train is connected behind the drive wheels while a truck has the load directly on top of the drive wheels. It doesn't make much sense when you think about it. The weight in a truck trailer would normally sit directly on the 5th wheel, which is directly over the drive wheels. A train has the load behind the drive wheels, which would mean that the load wouldn't give you the traction you need. The weight actually comes from the boiler on the drive wheels. The boiler is full of water, which, depending on the load, is heavier. Some loads might give you a bit of traction, but it is pretty much negligible.

[@daemonicone4098]

Thanks to @kAN and @hyce for the great content!

[@wolf3515]

about the woodenflooring the dutch railroad museum has a steam engine called ''nestor'' and it has a wooden cab and it looks cool when your next to it cuz you can see the woodenboards on the cab

[@mikeschnieders7750]

Hey Kan when you eventually build a switchback line, you should use the Shay to run it. Similar to the real life, Cass Senic Railroad State Park

[@19LG99]

no 1080p?

[@danielpuebla987]

Quick thing kan just to justify hyce's answer the Brits actually had 3 diferent steam engines that they put in to a test to see which one of them will be the one to be the starting point for the british railways though it wasn't called like that until the 1950s becouse there were 4 diferent companies in England by that time, anyway back to the point the 3 engines that participated in that test were the: Rocket, the san'spareil and the Novelty which 2 of them didn't make it becouse of mechanical failures and so the Rocket engine won the test and it became the first "Iron horse" in Englands rails.

[@1990Trigger]

Paintball would be cool but I think airport would be better idea, easier to clean up, less damage and you can get some more historicly accurate gun designs.

[@gameboybros7739]

Hey kan I have a question for you and hyce, do you know the narrow guage mining town in Santa Cruz known as Roaring Camp? if you don't you should check it out and look at the history. I actually went there for my 11th birthday and found out the track tour used to be longer but the bridge portion of the track that took you to the valley was burned down in the 1940s.

[@daesmith3274]

Love the star wars reference

[@timberpony1814]

The shay is my auto train. I let it run small loads with no driver. I'll send it to the logging camp on its own line. The I go do my thing when I get around to it, I'll find it at the buffers at the end of its line just chilling. You should get more the one shay and us them for light auto trains.

[@Pystro]

Hey Kan, I think you should tell Hyce some story or other about spiders every episode now.

[@trainzone3428]

Love your videos

[@BEEBO168]

u could use the shay to run logs (added realism bonus)

[@_Lord_BoNes]

You could've called the Climax "The big O". It's a joke that kids won't get, but the adults would giggle about it.

[@Game_Blox9999]

Dude, please don't. Just don't.

[@berkleyhuffman48]

So not as experienced with the train stuff, but the Climax has such a small radius with the piston mechanism to deliver more torque, right?

[@dereklinkous9214]

Saw something interesting on another channel that the Uintah 2-6-6-2T might be coming to the game.

[@aadaoswin]

do you plan on releasing the map to a map sharing website?

[@SapioiT]

Please bring Betsy, too, even if just for spectacle.

[@matthewzuber9823]

I like the name! Big Red 5, Standing By! haha

[@GalaxysSouthFLRailfanning]

Are you going to get a heisler or a shay sometime?

[@Esperpritzie]

You should play stormworks! It has a new DLC. And you could make a Steam engine! (Btw the videos are really good!)

[@Lunas88]

Tried find the The Rock Train out there, Amazon has the dvd for 130 bucks lmao

[@SwordlordRoy]

If we want to get technical, the Romans had a steam engine...they didn't do anything with it because slave labor was cheaper and/or more established.

[@rustymozzy]

Also, the materials available and the inability for precision manufacturing meant the engines were so inefficient that they would not be able to generate much effective work. It's not that manual labour was cheap. It was more effective.

[@JeffreyCasserly]

The problem of tractive effort is the limits of adhesion of steel wheels on steel rails. Sanding helps, but the geared locos literally use all-wheel drive to increase tractive effort. However, they can only handle an 11% grade, which is the absolute limit of adhesion, while regular locos can only handle 6% when double-headed. The combo you have here will end up with the geared loco having to also provide some of the tractive effort for the non-geared loco, which has far less tractive capability. Obviously, the geared locos can in larger sizes to handle heavier loads.

[@XxAdminChllaxX]

Hyce said in a vid that tractive effort has nothing to do with adhesion, that is represented with the factor of adhesion.

[@dishdoggiegaming7254]

I Live in Marion Ohio Huber building was still in standing with its name on the outside when I was a Kid and MPS Buildings are still in use for other companies. My Railroad in Railroads Online is ERIE LACKAWANNA we have a Hub in Marion because of the Marion Power Shovel it is about 100 years away from the Industrial buildings.

[@heritagetransport4242]

The shay also has more power than the eureka I believe but it may be slow!

[@THEButterKING25]

I’ve seen heist play derail valley. Those cars don’t just explode

[@jnnmlchr91]

Kan a comet is coming through Canada and the United States on Wednesday try looking probably north it should look like a green blur if you have binoculars you can see it better

[@masterbryan7106]

Would be cool, if that game had the Big Boy locomotive.

[@carter5154]

Can we talk about the rear wheels phasing off then back on to the track at 6:40

[@zachvitale836]

Use the shay for your log to sawmill

[@milesscanlan3771]

You should make a high speed rail where you bild a rail to a super high altitude and roll down super fast

[@Dinkfod_Q_Oglethorpe]

I wonder if the Huber mfg company is anyway related to the city next me called Huber Heights. 🤔

[@mattymerr701]

Regarding not having as good a grasp on the engineering/maths as you thought, electrical engineering is the absolute worst for that. It is magic that has so many layers of inaccurate, but comfortable models which only make it harder to learn, since you constantly have to unlearn previous knowledge.

[@panzerjagertigerporsche]

The T-boiler Shay should be used for logging trains like it was used in real life

[@Monkey_d_luffy806]

Still remember Scrapman and trailmakers

[@macpultz159]

um when Hyce went to get the class 48 the climax was moving forward still although barely it was still making it up the grade

[@BookswillOfficial]

With brakes on too...

[@Skyfire_The_Goth]

Should have named number 5 "is alive" or "Johnny" in homage to the robot in the short circuit movies.

[@clonekiller6643]

Someone already said it but I'm saying it again because I think its a good idea but you could probably use the shay at the hump yard

[@htomerif]

From a purely static friction breaking sense, I don't think Hyce is correct about a heavier load giving you more traction. The only reason I can see why a heavier load would make you break static friction is if the engine is running at lower torque when its going slower. Or maybe there's some physical difference in how the engine is set up for loads, like less water or coal.

[@XxAdminChllaxX]

It could be because the coupler is mounted at a higher point than the wheels touching the rails and thus creating additional force to press the wheels down, thus increasing friction.

[@htomerif]

​@@XxAdminChllaxX Yeah, but its not pulling down. Its pulling straight back. Any extra force on the rear wheels gets taken away from the front wheels. There might be some locomotives where this would matter, but (I think this was about the Climax) the Climax had equally powered front and rear trucks with differentials and a drive shaft, so you're not transferring force to wheels that are driven from wheels that aren't. Transferring weight from the front truck to the back truck would just make the front truck slip easier, and once it did, the rear truck taking up all of the torque, regardless of having a little more effective weight on it would slip much easier with a heavier load. That's assuming the weight was evenly balanced to start with, which it probably wasn't, so who knows. Also I don't know if it had a center differential. Probably not, but again, who knows.

[@XxAdminChllaxX]

@@htomerif For climax i agree, for a more traditional loco with unpowered front bogey it might actually make a difference.

[@htomerif]

@@XxAdminChllaxX It might even be true for the Climax. There's a version of the Climax hat has a tender and a third powered truck under the tender with a driveshaft extension. It depends almost entirely on how the weight distribution is set up. Looking at the most exhaustive list of locomotives I could find (a couple hundred) it seems like the most common configurations are 0-N-0 and 2-N-0 with a decent number of 0-N-2 and 2-N-2. The 0-N-0 ones wouldn't be affected by the weight of the train, 2-N-0 ones would probably be helped, but anything with trailing bogeys should lose traction. There doesn't seem to be any pattern of wheel configuration with respect whether the locomotive was a freight locomotive (usually slower and heaver loads) or a passenger one (faster and lighter loads). The only thing that stands out are shunting locomotives, which are almost always 0-4-0 or 0-6-0. I don't really even like trains that much and now I know way too much about them.

[@andrewp6387]

Oh! Climax!!!

[@Missiletuna7]

You guys should get a class 70, name it (Green River) after the one built in 1881

[@spottotea]

When I first got RO, I made the mistake of buying the Shay. Needless to shay, I never touched it again.

[@cheetored20]

Idea: use the same color paint as the locomotive

[@KingRoyal98]

my grandma reminds me every now and then that one time when I was little we went on one of those trains where they did the whole pretend robbing and apparently one of the actor went up to me and said "where's the money" and my grandma said I said "I ain't got the money my grandma does" I basically ratted out my grandma to the fake robbers lol

[@stormrider2156]

next video could you ask hyce about the chesapeake and ohio turbine engine

[@captaindonut9075]

In lithuania we had a movei that and it was a real robery and later pasangers found the fake robers dide up.

[@dmytrogg6453]

do some first person driving

[@_T-34-57]

Hey hyce, is it possible for the creators of the game to add a big boy engine, like a 4014 or 844, or would there be problems

[@alexwalkervlogs]

it is not 3 foot gadge this is narrow gadge the big boy is 3foot gadge not norrow

[@SOLDIER_SKID]

COAL IS COMING TO THE GAME IDK WHEN

[@raymondhatton6877]

A healthy shot of kerosene or paint thinner will take care of any mud dobber problems, the ones that MIGHT escape death end up with melted wings and can't swarm making them alot easier to deal with

[@Game_Blox9999]

Here, let me just kick it into reverse for you. (steam engine sound intensifies)

[@laurentgamer4895]

so by my understanding a train is like a man trying to pull an anchor on sand the heavier the anchor the more he's feet dig into the sand?

[@stripyrhombus]

First steam loco was made in Britain February 21st 1804

[@musanaufalassyurakurniawan1624]

I think the name of the climax is clay because of the front of the name

[@FuelFire]

I am still questioning how the Climax is stronger than the Heisler.

[@wyattbiddle2177]

I thought I remembered that a steam engine was made like a thousand years ago but it wasn't used to power anything but that is probably wrong.

[@TotallyNotAFox]

The romans had a simple steam machine, but the power output wasn't effective enough to power anything with it

[@Zacht1980]

Can you guys make one video where you don't bin the train or do something stupid?

[@gabeouellette912]

Shays are amazing hill climbers

[@ryderadams8575]

Shay: Logging Camp. to: Lumber Mill.

[@peterhamilton7723]

Hyce doesn't know what slow is

[@casualgaming3428]

can you get the flying scotsman train in this game ?

[@hocuspocus5481]

hello from Marion Ohio :)

[@garand70]

Assuming the next train will be #8

[@marshallkeers]

Can you please 🙏 do another series of scrap mechanic multipler.

[@graphichealer8161]

10:54 - Ah, So, Mercado...

[@Timmzy27]

It has been: ZERO Days since Hyce had to pee in a cup.

[@Thatguybob5]

Let just kick it in reverse for you real quick (Climax goes into hyper speed) 5:23 Also my family farmed for 6 generations and had a Huber steam tractor

[@toatao7756]

Apparently coal fire is coming to the game

[@Game_Blox9999]

I think everyone knows that by now. Even me, who doesn't even play Railroads Online.

[@Mr_Tea_Rexx]

Number 5 is Alive!!