We Found A Plane Wreck In The Desert - Featuring the Insta360 Ace Pro 2

[@papioscarw]

Being a former CAP S &R Ground team leader, When we find an old crash site , we would always paint a red X on the large parts to identify and show that it had all ready been found.

[@sithticklefingers7255]

They probably did that 55 years ago too. It would have to be some pretty serious paint to last that long out in the elements.

[@Chris_at_Home]

I’ve seen plane wrecks marked on sectionals in Alaska.

[@workingguy-OU812]

I've seen this on a boat a few miles out in the Atlantic made from an inner metal frame (with a small diesel engine, possibly russian) where the entire hull was just red plastic sheeting. I'm guessing that the Coast Guard spray painted identification on it to mark it as having been checked (not sure why they didn't sink it). Perhaps they took the Cubans out of it, or perhaps there was nobody in it when they found it - but someone did mark it with spray paint.

[@aaronlillard3880]

Nice to meet another wingman

[@wallyzworld7108]

Grew up in the Eastern Sierra. Many crash sites. That brings back memories of my Dad and I leaving Sierraville enroute back to Bishop in a 152. Thunderstorms built up so fast that day and got so rough we ended up landing in Hawthorne Nv and spent 4 hours on the ground waiting out the storms. Also, hit the wave coming back from Porterville over Olancha Pass, ice crystals were blowing 5 miles to the east off Olancha peak, then it got really rough. Power back, little flaps and point it straight down. Get underneath the wave and fly low up the east side of the valley out of the wind and turbulence.

[@cessnateur]

Interesting video and a really solid product review that never once felt like a sales pitch. I've never owned a video camera before, but this video has convinced me that if/when I buy one, it'll be an Ace Pro 2. Thanks and keep up the great work, Trent!

[@blueman5924]

Man, you make all this filming look so easy. You are a talented guy. The tech in the gizmo’s is really something too.👍🤙

[@chrislovett6120]

I appreciate the video, as you said we need to learn from others mistakes in order to not repeat them. I follow Pilot Debrief for this reason

[@joshsosbee8820]

Thank you for sharing. It is always horrible to hear of accidents like this but we need to all "debrief" so we can learn and try to not repeat them.

[@Dr_Kenneth_Noisewater]

In-flight breakup screams thunderstorm every time i hear it. I think back to weather reporting from the mid-90s when I started flying and it is night and day better now. Go back 30 years before even that and it must have been super sketchy!

[@carlmclelland7624]

I didn't need to watch all of this to know what happened, when you said where it happened. 65 hour private pilot, 2 hours in type. That alone was a recipe for disaster. SAN to ONT to RNO.... Add fatigue and a pilot who didn't know what his limitations were.... I've got a 1,000 hours flying the mail in a Cessna 402B, between Vegas and Reno, in the late 70s. Some of the most challenging IFR conditions I encountered in my flying career were along that route. ICE, extreme turbulence, wind shear, severe up and downdrafts... and the list goes on. On one particular flight, I turned north from Beatty, and from there until I broke out over Virginia City, it was constant ice, as low as 10,800 and as high as 15,100 while trying to maintain 12,000. Mountain wave like I'd never experienced before... and as I was turning onto the ILS for 16R at Reno, the controller says... "Be advised, a Falcon Fanjet landed forty-five minutes ago and reported SEVENTY-KNOT windshears on final." Best landing I ever made that night, but it was a challenge I've never forgotten........... Flight into icing conditions, spacial disorientation, stall-spin to a graveyard spiral, both hands on the yoke and pull as hard as he could... right up to the time a wing separated.

[@Voodoo_Robot]

You so cool. I wish i was like you.

[@Dr_Kenneth_Noisewater]

I used to volunteer with Colorado Wing, CAP and we had a list of known crash sites with Lat/Long and some other info (type maybe?). There are many many known crash sites across the state. I’m sure other states are similar.

[@paulliebenberg3410]

Trent, really great infomercial, I'm going to be getting me one of these Insta360 Ace Pro 2's! Anyway this vid reminds of sometime late in the last century when me and a buddy were riding motos in central California and came upon a C-210 that had undergone a night time CFIT. Burned on impact. From the look of things it was a quite recent wreck and there were still a few human bones in the cockpit area. Animals had been scattering them around. When I got to a phone I called the FSDO to report it and after a bit of a run-around (different county, different FSDO) was told that it had already been reported and was about a month old. I was really disheartened about the piss-poor job the responders had done removing the remains. FAA guy said the weather was bad and they couldn't drive back in to the site until winter was over. Since no survivors they weren't going to risk a helicopter operation.

[@adamclinton-f6w]

Yes it’s a 1968 piper 32-300 Cherokee six that Took off from Ontario ca to Reno Nevada Right wing separated inflight 3 fatalities recovered 6/7/ 1969

[@tylerherrman9569]

It’s almost like they said that word for word.

[@njsarn]

That's a brand new airplane. Sad for them. 😅

[@MargaretLeber]

www.ntsb.gov/Pages/brief.aspx?ev_id=9757&key=0

[@KenGaska]

So then what they said in the video?

[@rg3412]

Worst way to die

[@chrispy104k]

There was a plane crash over here in 1944 where two airforce trainees were on a night time navigation training flight in a Vultee Vengeance. Apparently they accidentally got into a jet stream which took them way further East of their intended route. By the time they realised they were way off course they were low on fuel. Both jumped out of the plane before it crashed. They came down in fairly dense scrub a long way apart. The pilot walked out a long way for help and the resultant search never found the navigator. Seeing that crash site a few months ago was sobering even though it was 80 years ago.

[@stephenfarmer7713]

Mentioning the Owen's wave and Nevada triangle, you should check out Peter Stekel's book, "Final Flight". It's a story of William Gamber, John Melvin Mortenson, Ernest Glenn Munn, and Leo Mustonen. They were a United States Army Air Forces pilot and three aviation cadets lost in Sequoia & Kings Canyon National Parks on November 18, 1942 during a navigation training mission.

[@CraigVanSickleAK]

Looks like the camera to get. I waited it out on the new GoPro and DJI. Thanks!

[@jcbaily5559]

Good to visit with you again! Take care!

[@erichetherington9899]

Loveland pass by the Eisenhower tunnel has an aircraft crash protected site. Similar. Prayers for all ty Trent.

[@woof3598]

storms can jump out and bite you, we were jumping one hot sunday afternoon. saw the clouds off in the distance, thought we could get one more jump in before the rain. didnt even get all the way up to altitude before we were in it. pilot turn and asked if we wanted out or try and get back, we ALL wanted out , landed a long way from the drop zone in the middle of a hog lot in the mud, farmers wife was home, gave me a ride back to the hanger (-:

[@avroshack]

I live in Naples Florida, but my daughter lives in Reno. MAN, would I love to do a flying-fishing trip with you one day!!!

[@Pilot2315]

Crazy to see the plane still in that condition after all the years. The Pilot would be 88 years old today.

[@brushitoff503]

Very enjoyable, thank you. I think the Camera looks good, I bet it would look terrible in my hands ha ha! Cheers

[@hlynnkeith9334]

Thanks for the review of the Insta360 Ace Pro 2.

[@patrickheavirland3599]

Good morning from Minnesota! Wow, thanks for the episode!

[@ferebeefamily]

Thank you for the video. Nice camera.

[@estruble]

You don't have to go south to find wreckage. Just a little west from your home base lies Martis Peak which is painted with aluminum. Aircraft scud running over the Donner forget it's not a straight shot to Reno and end up impacting Martis Peak. (Or all the icing crashes on the west side of Donner).

[@scottboyer8450]

The NTSB is one of the few federal agencies I truly admire and support. Their investigations are exceptionally thorough, and in this way, the lives lost as a result of an accident are not in vain, as they contribute to improving safety and preventing future tragedies.

[@TheDude19Echo]

Could not disagree with you more. To each his own I guess.

[@Triple_J.1]

The NTSB has provided extremely detailed reports on thousands of aircraft crashes. The effort (and money/time investment) is usually proportional to the incident. E.g. Experimental gets little attention, certified light aircraft might have an on-scene investigation. Commercial is always investigated thoroughly. And airlines accidents are multi-year, 300 page reports. The NTSB has absolutely, and irrefutably contributed to vehicle and travel safety. As has the NHTSB. Although it can be debated whether another department or private organization could do better with less resources. For example, the Underwriters Laboratory has almost entirely eliminated house fires caused by routine ordinary appliance usage. With rare exception due to defects or severe misuse.

[@KasualKaos]

I saw this wreck a year or so ago. KZbin randomly recommended a channel that found it on Google Maps and hiked to it. I don't remember what channel it was though.

[@edcew8236]

When parts are missing, that's a strong indication of an inflight breakup. If it was CFIT, all the parts should be there.

[@terrya6486]

Any offers on the kitfox yet ?

[@josiatokirina1788]

Wrecks should be explored and examined. There is no disrespect to anyone. It is a lesson, a learning process for all survivors and visitors, from another person's unfortunate mishap or mistake.

[@kariingason6569]

I'd love to see you visit California to point all your fancy camera equipment at Alex Coats for an afternoon. Would make great footage.

[@jamiem9849]

When you said Cherokee six, I got flashbacks. 40 years ago I survived an accident in a Cherokee six. Failed go-around, overran the runway into a creek.

[@TrentonPalmer]

Oh man, that’s scary, glad you are here to tell about it

[@jamiem9849]

@@TrentonPalmer I was 13. Went on to get my comm licence, twin, ifr and acro rating. Been years since I’ve flown. Would love to do it again

[@MrKazz88]

Curious on your take of Flying Wild Alaska? IMO was the start of bush flying tv.

[@golfbravowhiskey8669]

The only problem I have with my Insta 360 is image stabilization of the background. The Vocal Point always is stabilized but like when you were walking around those trees and they were behind you they were kind elongated and snappy/jerky looking. My Insta 360 does the same thing, as much as I despise a GoPro they do have their visualization software correct.

[@Cornstalker7273]

Yes, it makes the background contrasty and choppy. I don't like it at all. Dos not produce a high quality video

[@911jason]

Would love to see some future HDR videos!

[@waltersmith6454]

3:30 I searched the tail number. Aviation Safety Network places the accident recovery in 1969 due to in flight wing separation.

[@BlueMax717]

Thanks for saying exactly what was said in the video.

[@ibsn87]

@5:55 😂

[@romiemiller7876]

Do you watch pilot Debrief or Mentor Pilot?

[@wilgarcia1]

that's always so sad. but at least you found only shoe remains.

[@patchmack4469]

oh wow the numbers are sad and the reality even sadder, if only Juan's videos on the Swiss Cheese effect were at hand for this pilot i have to say and i'm not a qualified pilot myself but have flown a reasonable amount in different types, Juan's video's give anyone great insight to the facts mentioned here and possible outcome if you don't have the correct training, flying in difficult terrain in a storm at distance between airfields with little experience and no instrument rating, just sad he broke a new plane and took two others with him/her - the holes in the swiss cheese all lined for this pilot - i really hope the passengers wern't too young

[@richodphoto]

Went to ERAU in PRC. We investigated a crash where the pilot flew into severe t-storms. Up/down drafts ripped a wing off. The remaining wing rotated the aircraft so violently, his heart ripped out (internally). He was dead before impact.

[@kmg501]

It is interesting how long the crash site has existed with what looks to be extremely little material break down. RIP.

[@tw1356]

Was this the same old crash site that Desert Drifter featured that was next t9 5he airfield?

[@brandonfasan]

I'm going to have to look up how to do the time code thing to save time when I edit! Also I'm praying insta360 will make the preview remote work to trigger older cameras like X3 and oneR!

[@waldoinaz]

Holy crap…you found Jimmy Hoffa!!

[@Eclipse-h3-13]

That is terrifying

[@Adventure_Mike]

3 occupants and 3 fatalities in that crash. 1968 it was a Piper PA-32-300 Cherokee. 38.466670°N, 119.116670°W

[@ukulelebrowne5351]

Thx for the video! Where can I get an “I ❤ Airplanes” hat like you had in a previous vid?

[@brettcovington8838]

Is that the new plane at the end??

[@melissahoffman4687]

Are you going to install a mirror in your new plane so you can see your passenger behind you better while you talk with him or her? Nice Go pro-2! So sorry about that plane crash.

[@erichetherington9899]

Off topic, nice truck! likes

[@aerocorby]

That's 1/2 of the wing separating in flight* that airplane only has one wing, we know this to be the case in aeronautics because a Biplane has 2 wings and not 4 (it's in the name) monoplane = 1 fixed wing.

[@Arlen6010]

This tail number is now registered to a 2007 Cessna 208B owned by Cessna Finance Group in Wichita Ks the last flight I see on flight aware is on 5-13-2023

[@rynetreatch9558]

These seem like great cameras from everything I’ve seen. My only hesitation is that they have a Chinese parent company. If they were an American company I would already own one. Or two. Or three.

[@Taylor_Pritchard]

Is there a coordinate for this wreck? I'm in the Reno area and am interested in flying over this.

[@877-MASH-NOW]

I am new to the Camera stuff. Could you live stream using that camera?

[@alexvalle5378]

Where can you find the article on google?

[@artbobik3516]

just type in the N number and you get everything on it -

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Thanks for the comments on the Ace Pro.... I get comments on my videos about using music only transit sections....wind noise is not a video friendly thing. I'll have to start saving.

[@georgepauli007]

Insta 360... what frame rate do you record when it's outside the plane?

[@doradosurfcharters]

Planes paint job held up well for the age.. wonder if that camera will hold up for 55yrs

[@Jack-ne8vm]

No drone to help find other parts?

[@mycosys]

Going into the ad was a little tasteless

[@mycosys]

@@SorryLord-IDidntMeanToSayThat Stay Classy :)

[@GRW3]

Consider recutting this into an aviation story. A warning that a more capable airplane does not make the pilot more capable without more training. Use your cinematography skills to give people the sickening feel of an inflight breakup and that long plunge to the ground.

[@IlikeVeshremy]

Heres why i think what happened to the second wing went so the plane was flying low an then hit a tree an then went boom

[@geoffheith]

I love that Im here to check out the Insta 360 but ALLLLLL your comments are about the plane crash. I see your crowd Trent...I see it.

[@HighFlight2k2]

One of my many complaints about GP is you can't provide power with a battery installed. As soon as recording starts it pulls from the battery. So I run without a battery which means it doesn't keep time. Can you supply power with a battery installed and it pull from power instead of the battery?

[@TrentonPalmer]

I didn’t realize that was the case, I’ll double check but I’m fairly sure they do pull power from the USB while recording and plugged in. I can check when I get back to the hangar

[@HighFlight2k2]

@@TrentonPalmer I appreciate you checking. In cockpit overheating and the power limitation are my two annoyances. I do like not needing the fat adapter too. I think I've overcome the overheating with a custom designed 3D printable shroud with a fan. So far no overheating.

[@TrentonPalmer]

I just confirmed with my contact at Insta360 and it does accept USB power while recording 👍

[@user-hl2rc5ct7f]

Wearing flip flops in the desert. I always walk barefoot in desert here in Arizona. I almost got bit by a rattlesnake last summer.

[@daryltolliver7271]

i just searched the Number and it popped right up as a crash from 6/7/1969. Wing seperation

[@the_flying_pivers]

Aviation Saftey network did a report on it in 2008

[@JustPlaneSilly]

I thought I was going to switch to the DJI action 4 cameras I bought one and loved it but now I think I'm going to look into this one. That thing looks feature-rich and the qualities pretty good. Also price point seems really fair.

[@TrentonPalmer]

Yeah, I’m switching over to all Ace Pro 2s, I’m pretty impressed so far

[@kila8089]

NTSB?

[@Shameless511]

Bugs may have eaten the fabric of the shoes?

[@navion1946]

It was found about the time I was born.

[@johnbacon2553]

Of course it was an ad because he had nothing bad to say about the camera. But who cares? That’s how it’s done nowadays. Still a good video and I’m ready to buy that camera!

[@michaeltrboyevich7854]

Trent , I still look for my buddy in Alaska . He disappeared in the early 80's , on a flight from ANC to Fairbanks with some oil executives from ARCO ..I would find parts of different aircraft and wreckage that no one ever knew about . Left all . Wasn't Newsty ...

[@ibsn87]

😢

[@wilgarcia1]

I've always wondered why Cubs don't have a removable weight at the tail so the pilot can solo in the front seat.

[@Triple_J.1]

How would that work if you flew to another location and picked up a passenger? And what if you forgot the weight was installed, and departed with the cg aft of the neutral point? There are several reasons why not. And no real reason to, other than view of the instrument panel. (With perhaps three actual instruments).

[@phantumdrummer]

​@TheJustinJ It would work in the same way the Bell 505 does removable weights. They have the weight mount on the end of the tail boom AND a weight storage mount next to the pilots seat. You are able to moves weights easily as your load changes per flight. Like when loading and unloading sight seers. Since pilots are required to insure their weight and balance is correct for EVERY flight, and they actually do it, it should not be an issue.

[@wilgarcia1]

@@Triple_J.1 Move it to the front for a passenger, make it part of your preflight so you don't forget.

[@WiehlintheSky]

I switched my cams to Insta360 from the other guys. They're so much more capable!

[@benjamink2654]

more raptor videos please.

[@stuartkcalvin]

the video from that camera is outstanding. Thanks Trent.

[@stuartkcalvin]

04:35 that swinging made me dizzy, however.

[@NONSTOP81]

Piper PA-32-300 Cherokee Six . right wing separated in flight.Recovery date 6/7/69

[@2015bman9]

I think this is the first plane wreck. You really looked at.

[@marks4058]

Two mins into this vid and I'm ready to beg you to PLEASE switch permanently to this camera for your walk-about vlog shots. Have mercy on your viewers and keep using this one! No more motion sickness, hallelujah! This was the one improvement your channel needed, everything else is perfect.

[@rconger24]

So a new pilot expected nice weather in June?

[@BobSanders33]

The crash was in December 1968, recovery in June 1969.

[@Captndarty]

Graveyard spiral. Creepy.

[@alexmikhael5061]

insta360 havint the cams wired with power, that will allow FULL FLIGHTS !!!! or .... LIVE STREAMS OF THE FLIYING?????? oh my .... :) well...... when do the videos of the NEW PLANE BUILD START?????? when you gettin the kit? you got it yet? it is in shipping? shipped YET???

[@fritz4345]

Fun fact: I know the pilot who ditched the famous plane in Iceland.

[@dburton7929]

Well, aren’t you special.

[@fritz4345]

@@dburton7929 I am 😁

[@RobsNeighbor]

I was and still am all my son has, she left us and her other kids I accepted, the others have grown and my son is 11 and its just us. He is having mom issues and its getting harder and harder. I just keep overcoming and becoming stronger and hoping things work out. It is hard!

[@mycosys]

TY for being there for him, for loving him. Stay strong in your love.

[@rigger4695]

It went down 28 December 1968 so it went down during a winter storm not a thunder storm.

[@meRyanP]

I think that was the manufacture date. They said it went down 6/7/1969

[@aleksandars9254]

Flying a cherokee with 2 hours... Damn.

[@jpascaln]

Clearly it was a traveling shoe salesman.

[@slam854]

Thanks, I just ordered one for my nephew and his action lady. Currently on new release back order but it still will make a fine outdoor adventure cam as a Holiday gift.

[@fredwilliams6843]

Yeah but how is you’re new plane coming along?

[@TrentonPalmer]

Good! Next video will be an update!

[@opieshomeshop]

Life is very short even IF you survive it to old age. And old age comes very fast. Life is also very unfair and in an instant your life can be quickly cut short. For this reason, I think it's important to be self-aware and aware of others as well as aware of G-d. (I don't mean Christianity either) I mean, live life right. Be an honest person. If you don't want it done to you, don't do it to others. You don't have to have a tree hugging bleeding heart but take time to notice those less fortunate than you. It might be something as simple as helping someone across the street or come up with the last few cents at check out or maybe it's just being there for someone who has no one. On the Insta cameras. Impressive. I would really like to see them make an 8K dash cam capable of front and rear and side with good audio and a decent power supply that's not the cig lighter. I am so underwhelmed with dash cams right now. I have yet to find one that's worth its weight. Carry on!

[@JS-jb7is]

Just assumed it was Trevor Jacob's plane.

[@GlensHangar]

Have you jammed timecode between multiple 'ce Pro2's or an AcePro2 and one of the other action cams? Have you mounted the AcePro2 on the outside yet - how was the wind noise? GoPro just keeps letting me down, and the DJI Action 5 has some super weird propeller artifacts, though the 4 hour battery life on the DJI is sweet.

[@ibsn87]

@5:55 investigation information. You don’t need to look it up yourself people. 😂

[@BWTIII]

Hi Trent, Sobering video, as are most fatal crash sites. Thanks for taking time to research, explore, document, and share your experience. Almost ten years ago now, my brother and I struck out to rediscover the 1938 crash site of Jerry & Sylvia Vultee, a prominent aircraft designer and engineer. The site is located in a very remote location near Sedona, Arizona; Similarly to your experience, it becomes very real when you see the aftermath of the tragedy. We took with us, a near identical, replacement Cross as it was thought the original cross burnt during a forest fire sometime earlier. It did not so now there are two crosses on this crash site. Following is our KZbin video documenting the adventure. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3XXpmOAd7ala8U

[@OutbackOverlanderG2]

Not sure if you have seen your truck my guy, but "it" would disagree with you where the road might end.

[@captain_phill]

What the f**k happened at 9:36?! Going from a sad explanation to happy Music and talking about paid Sponsor stuff...

[@CapablePimento]

Kinda weird that they took the motor and left the rest behind. Including shoes. Could have done better there considering.

[@deltafour1212]

So, that's where Trevor Jacobs hid the evidence ;)