We found Team17's WORMS developer Amiga 4000! Let's explore its disk

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Retro Recipes 🕹️ vintage tech + tv

Retro Recipes 🕹️ vintage tech + tv

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@garyhope6577
@garyhope6577 5 жыл бұрын
It takes a lot for me to say wow these days but wow. Thank you Retro Recipes for taking us on this journey into a place I never thought I'd see. Cris. Thank you for your contribution to computing history and for making this video possible. I am a huge fan of worms to this day and I still fondly recall playing the game back when it was initially realised. Glorious glorious worms. Wow.
@RetroRecipes
@RetroRecipes 5 жыл бұрын
You are more than welcome. I was very lucky to be the c̶h̶o̶s̶e̶n̶ ̶w̶o̶r̶m̶ chosen one, & I loved the idea of sharing the exploration adventure with this lovely community. Thank you again Cris! 🐛
@cheater00
@cheater00 5 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRecipes came here to say the same thing. thank you so much for making this video. sad to see you're gone off twitter, but after the social media talking heads started trolling you I'm not surprised!
@mrc1190
@mrc1190 5 жыл бұрын
So much history in one small little box! It's amazing that within just a few hours this Amiga was back working just like it was in the 90's. It would be wrong for this to land in any one individuals hands, it has to given to a computing museum back at its home in the UK. Thanks Cris and Perifractic, I'm looking forward to see more from this series!
@RetroRecipes
@RetroRecipes 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! More is already live, check out the worms playlist 👍🕹️
@cheater00
@cheater00 5 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRecipes that playlist looks great!!!
@B3tanTyronne
@B3tanTyronne 5 жыл бұрын
That a4000 deserves its place in a museum and I would suggest the Centre of Computing History in Cambridge UK as it really is one of a kind.
@pepzi_
@pepzi_ 5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree! It would "complete" the computers travels around the world too. From UK to US and back to its homevcountry.
@necronom
@necronom 5 жыл бұрын
I was going to suggest that one. I saw Douglas Adams' Mac in there. It would be good for it to be in a British museum, with Team 17 and their Amiga games being a big deal here.
@BertGrink
@BertGrink 5 жыл бұрын
Given that Team17 was a British company, that's the proper place in my opinion.
@bsvenss2
@bsvenss2 5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree! 🤗👍🏻
@bsvenss2
@bsvenss2 5 жыл бұрын
BertyFromDK Hmmmm... I like to think 50% Swedish and 50% English. Just because I am a Swede and remember Team 7’s games very well.
@RetroRecipes
@RetroRecipes 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Please vote via the ℹ️ icon in the video corner & remember any proceeds will go to charity. Details to follow! Worm regards, Perifractic
@DaleFrewaldt
@DaleFrewaldt 5 жыл бұрын
If it goes to a retro museum, I would suggest reaching out to John Hancock kzbin.info/door/kDwUy-wt1adtSyd227TNdA
@pepzi_
@pepzi_ 5 жыл бұрын
I'm using Magic Actions for KZbin, and wasn't able to configure it to show the "i" icon. Disabled the addon to vote - then I emailed their support asking them to allow users to decide if they want the Cards-feature. Thanks for being my best friend in retro, Perifractic!
@thecaptain2281
@thecaptain2281 5 жыл бұрын
Wish I'd had an Amiga BITD and had been more popular here. My first experience with the series was with Worms Armageddon on the N64. Still love it though.
@brrebrresen1367
@brrebrresen1367 5 жыл бұрын
when it comes to PAL\NTSC monitors... tried with an Sony PWM or JVC TM? the JVC TM-1700PN is a very popular monitor with the retro gaming community here in Europe since it has both modes combined with superb picture and way lower price used than the Sony PWM.'s with both NTSC and PAL support
@JosephDavies
@JosephDavies 5 жыл бұрын
Where is the link to the vote? I don't see it in the description (and there's no 'i' in the video).
@cryptomime1429
@cryptomime1429 4 жыл бұрын
For some reason, sitting watching an Englishman and a Scotsman firing up a A4000 in America, to relive some amazing games history is just so enjoyable. Team17, Worms, Bars & Pipes, Lightwave3d.... Fantastic visit to memory lane for me. My best regards from Scotland, birth place to so many game designers and companies.
@RetroRecipes
@RetroRecipes 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers! Sounds like the beginning of a joke doesn't it...
@cryptomime1429
@cryptomime1429 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRecipes So, an Englishman, a Scotsman and an A4000 walk into a Bar & Pipes....... :D Thanks for the reply Chris, you and the family stay safe. It's not quite time for me to say in my broad Scot's, "Were aww doomed" :D Now, if you'll excuse me, I shall go binge watch your channel :)
@RetroRecipes
@RetroRecipes 4 жыл бұрын
@@cryptomime1429 Haha good one!!
@peterkambasis
@peterkambasis 5 жыл бұрын
KZbin: How many Worm puns can you shove into an RR episode? Perifractic: Yes.
@nochan99
@nochan99 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. Amiga, Lightwave and worms in the same video. It's my childhood all over again!
@Ramsis-SNES
@Ramsis-SNES 5 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Ashley, as well :D
@mockier
@mockier 5 жыл бұрын
I'd say the collection belongs in a museum. There's enough there to display around the Amiga and give context. They could even hook up a monitor to a different machine to show a video loop of the animated files, 3D scenes etc.
@mockier
@mockier 5 жыл бұрын
I'd definitely not clean it
@TonyVRailfanning
@TonyVRailfanning 5 жыл бұрын
Ive still got an Amiga 4000 with the Video toaster and flyer running. rendering lightwave objects into an animation is painfully slow but the end results are fantastic even today.
@steampowervideo
@steampowervideo 5 жыл бұрын
I rarely (ever) comment on videos on KZbin. I have reasons (misleading, agenda, quality, rambling)... but I wanted to thank you for this and your channel in general. Not only did it tweak my emotional retro love for my old Amiga and my memories of first having Worms :) but the entire video, from your dog, to your presentation, the comedy, Ashley, Chris... seeing those original files, seeing both of your eyes light up after many hours of trying... beautiful! Stunning! Thank you!
@RetroRecipes
@RetroRecipes 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your extremely kind words. Means a lot. 👍🕹
@Jaw0lf
@Jaw0lf 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to The RetroHour Podcast, I discovered Chris Blyth's story and wow!! This was fantastic to find your video as I somehow missed it before. This definately shows why we need to keep and maintain backups of old computers especially those with a fantastic history. Thanks for saving these and giving us all the videos documenting the discoveries.
@storerestore
@storerestore 5 жыл бұрын
My 1084 handles both 50Hz and 60Hz fine, but I have experienced similar screen issues myself. The problem for me was that the screen modes in some programs were automatically promoted to their double scan equivalents (DBLPAL, DBLNTSC) when I had those modes installed. Those modes double the horizontal scan rate to some ~30 kHz which works fine with some VGA and multiscan monitors but will throw TV rate monitors like the 1084 off. Removing the modes solved the problem.
@RetroRecipes
@RetroRecipes 5 жыл бұрын
That's probably it but the preferences were saved in the program and you have to open the program to edit them, anyway we got it working!
@loamyst1858
@loamyst1858 5 жыл бұрын
My UK 1084 seemed to handle everything, but that 1084 was an NTSC and it seemed to only handle NTSC stuff if I remember correctly.. damn monitors.. but yeah, we got it working ...finally
@markpenrice6253
@markpenrice6253 5 жыл бұрын
Orrrrrr you could just plug in a VGA-compatible monitor and hope it's flexible enough to handle the Amiga's 27~29ish kHz scan rates (vs the 31kHz standard). Any old skool Multisync should do a good job of it, but a good number of modern LCDs quietly support "low" syncs, some down to 24~25kHz for compatibility with certain old (mostly Japanese) non-VGA computers. If you're very lucky it might even manage the 23kHz of Super72... Though if it's using any kind of upgrade video card you're probably looking at 35kHz as a minimum (SVGA/XGA or slightly higher frequency VGA, maybe even PAL60-progressive), maybe much higher. PC derived monitors of the early 90s were already well into the 60+ kHz zone - we owned one in 1994 that could do 1024x768 at 75Hz, and a graphics-focussed platform like the Amiga was no stranger to similar modes. Base AGA was somewhat limited by the low maximum pixel clock but could still manage 31~35kHz when suitably reprogrammed; upgrade cards had no such handicap.
@akeeh
@akeeh 5 жыл бұрын
Such a fun video to randomly stumble upon, I remember watching and laughing at all those small animation clips from the original Worms and later Worms 2. Probably was around 8 or 9 years old back then. Worms 1 we played with a friend living nearby back then but Worms 2 was the first game I tried online multiplayer on and it was so interesting idea to be able to compete with other people from other countries, stuff that people would take for granted nowadays, back then it was so weird and new for a young boy living in the country side with a slow modem connection. Thanks for the video and a trip down the wormy memory lane. :)
@DonSolaris
@DonSolaris 5 жыл бұрын
I started my sound design career 27 years ago on Amiga 500. Today i'm best selling sound designer and my products sell from Hollywood to Bollywood, from North Ireland to South Africa. Thank you Amiga!!
@murraymoose9963
@murraymoose9963 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video. It brought back lots of memories. I remember visiting 17 bit software in Wakefield on a number of occasions to get my fix of Amiga public domain software.
@Helmutlozzi
@Helmutlozzi 4 жыл бұрын
Wooooow! I remember most of these animations from the ps1-version I had back in the days. Good memories. I feel kinda privileged to see the creator of these animations browse through the ORIGINAL files here on the tube. Amazing stuff.
@RobTheSquire
@RobTheSquire 5 жыл бұрын
i loved playing this on my amiga 1200 as a kid in the nineties... even the pc ports later on.
@Neolord12
@Neolord12 5 жыл бұрын
This is just amazing! Thanks!!! Amazing how Far the Lightwave Software was ahead of it's time..Amiga is Love :)
@markpenrice6253
@markpenrice6253 5 жыл бұрын
The FMVs were still quite impressive on the PC CDROM, in fact. Though I didn't really miss them when booting the game up on my eBay A600...
@ChrisAnt
@ChrisAnt 5 жыл бұрын
Andy Davidson brought his A1200 to our art class at Bournemouth School when I was in year 7 (the same class he wrote Total Wormage). He showed me ray tracing and morphing for the first time about a month before Jurassic Park released and... well... I've made a pretty alright career out of it. Guess I have Andy to thank!
@mrjsv4935
@mrjsv4935 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! I still have the CU Amiga magazine, December 1995 which has Worms demo in the cover disk with special CU Amiga -level. Looking forward to see more of this video series.
@Boboche
@Boboche 5 жыл бұрын
Omg... good stuff! Hopefully the material will be accessible to everyone to make sure it survives down the road! Seeing pre-usable-for-most-common-mortals lightwave 1.0 models, What a trip down memory lane looping my video toaster demo reels while playing dungeon master and worms to finally start using lightwave 3.0 with “lightwavers” on my amiga 1200... and still my favorite 3d software today. Hopefully the new buyers wont go escom/gateway on newtek. Thanks for this awesome video!
@tubeMonger
@tubeMonger 5 жыл бұрын
Can't believe how much you put work in your videos. I just loved to see the whole story and realized how much hard work these guys have put into making the game. Thank you for sharing this amazing journey!
@RetroRecipes
@RetroRecipes 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words. Means a lot. 👍🕹
@stephenwhite8615
@stephenwhite8615 5 жыл бұрын
Get an OSSC. This will allow you to view NTSC or PAL RGB signals on a modern TV or Monitor. Add to that a HDMI capture device and you would be able to edit the captured content into your videos. Love the channel, keep up the good work!
@markpenrice6253
@markpenrice6253 5 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't even be necessary to do that seeing as the A4000 and its ilk were more than capable of VGA output, including upscaling / deinterlacing standard NTSC and PAL signals... and a dev machine like that almost certainly had a PC-grade Zorro / RTG graphics card in it. At least originally. You don't want to be doing all that 3D layout work within the graphical constraints of OCS or even ECS...
@xaGe__
@xaGe__ 5 жыл бұрын
Oh my GOD this video is swimming in nostalgia sauce! I never owned an Amiga, but was totally fascinated by them at the time and years later I emulated them in early WinUAE versions. Fascinating video! After you backed everything up my vote is for them to go to some museum. Thanks for sharing!
@psionski
@psionski 5 жыл бұрын
My copy of Worms: Armageddon just arrived in the mail today (big box, mint condition, _only_ game I'd be willing to spend that much money on). Then I open KZbin and this video is sitting in the "Recommended" box, posted just a couple of days ago. What are the odds!
@Keeping_IT_Simple
@Keeping_IT_Simple 5 жыл бұрын
Although this video has been a great load of fun it does raise one of the more serious problems with " Retro " computing . Namely the finding , collecting & preservation of the actual code / designs & thought processes of the people who made the software from the days before Internet / blogs. Many thanks to you both & i really look forward to the rest of the series.
@RickBoat
@RickBoat 5 жыл бұрын
I know you already know this, but the most common reason for old drives to not spin up is stiction. You can sometimed get them free by holding it in one hand and rapidly rotating 90 degrees. The case and head move, the inertia of the disk causes the head to come free. In my experience it works about 50% of the time. Looking forward to your future dives into the trove. I got the file of the 3d worm. The bomb would be fun. Can you boot those images in the emulator or do the depend on some non emulated hardware? If you have trouble with the tapes you might consider reaching out to Tim Jensen at newtek. Lordy, this stuff dates back to when he was still in Topeka. I remember when he and two other guys were sleeping in the space they rented downtown writing the first version of their amiga software.
@RetroRecipes
@RetroRecipes 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. They work in emulator!
@CommodoreAmiga
@CommodoreAmiga 5 жыл бұрын
you start the computer and hold 2 buttons together on the mouse and you click on Pal Mode, and Reboot. you do not need PAL monitor :) I have 4000 and 500 as well. very cool video! awesome find! what a memories, i can't believe the amiga started being stored like that in the shed :)
@RetroRecipes
@RetroRecipes 5 жыл бұрын
Well, that wasn't the issue. The monitor can't display PAL. Anyway we fixed it.
@tonylancaster8704
@tonylancaster8704 5 жыл бұрын
In the 80,s and 90,s i lived in Leeds and used to visit a computer shop where Martin Brown worked before he went to Team 17 . I now live in Ossett which is mentioned in one of the worms games and its only 3 miles from Wakefield.
@markpenrice6253
@markpenrice6253 5 жыл бұрын
*Yorkshire! Yorkshire! Yorkshire!*
@LotoTheHero
@LotoTheHero 5 жыл бұрын
This is really fantastic. It's mind-blowing how much of his old stuff Cris kept. It's awesome that he was willing to donate them so that the stuff could be preserved and enjoyed. I had some of my friends introduce me to worms back in high school. I'm pretty sure we played on PCs though (Amigas weren't really that big in the U.S). I have fond memories of playing it back then and later playing a version on the Super NES in an emulator. Can't wait to see what other cool things could be lurking on those disks. :D
@keithmcgerr3056
@keithmcgerr3056 5 жыл бұрын
Your a legend! I can't thank you enough for this vid and saving and archiving it, it means a lot to everyone! The very best things ever, the hours & hours playing & getting worms......the game of course!
@mrt1r
@mrt1r 5 жыл бұрын
4th backup option... Boot into Linux. dd if=/dev/sda of=/location.img. This will work in virtual box if you don't want to install Linux.
@ksln
@ksln 5 жыл бұрын
Alternately, there's dd_rescue and rescue_dd. These will allow you to attempt reading the drive backwards, bypassing a lot of functions of the drive, often resulting in making an unreadable drive readable again. There's loads of write ups on how to use these tools out there on the web, so I won't delve much more into it. : ) Great video. Keep em coming. : )
@mrt1r
@mrt1r 5 жыл бұрын
@@ksln I've never heard of those before. I will have to check them out!
@Ichinin
@Ichinin 5 жыл бұрын
DD Rescues is awesome, but there are even better data recovery tools out there as well that can ignore checksum errors and make a 99.999% copy of a harddrive. Check out Scott Moultons channel if you want to learn more: kzbin.info
@nathanmead140
@nathanmead140 5 жыл бұрын
Or use a DVD that's bootable to a linux desktop and a external ssd or flash drive
@nathanmead140
@nathanmead140 5 жыл бұрын
@@ksln would that work on a 32 GB sandisk extreme SD card? My Samsung Galaxy j3 messed it up and I want my files back
@Lucasrainford
@Lucasrainford 5 жыл бұрын
My favorite Amiga devs. I Remember them as 17-bit software from the early PD scene, I used to love the Amiga demo disks they had. Their games pushed the Amiga too, no ST ports to be seen here. What a top donation this is! facinating to watch the original artist rediscovering his old work. This is gonna be a great series, looking forward to the next one. Great vid dude! :)
@markpenrice6253
@markpenrice6253 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely, as a more recent arrival on the Amiga platform, there were quite a few old games not familiar from my ST days ... and most of them, at least the ones that were technically impressive and really used the hardware rather than simply being too PD / too crap to bother porting, had a hirez-lace T17 logo at load time... Particularly I was amazed to see Worms run on my A600, in very nearly the same quality and smoothness as we enjoyed on our DX2/66 PC. All that was missing were the voices and CD audio, and if I was to bother upgrading the RAM (especially finding some affordable way to add fastRAM in this day and age without installing a massively OTT accelerator board) to 2MB or more it'd have the full sample set. Quite what the PC was doing with its additional 6MB (especially as the video memory was entirely separate, so really "at least 6.25MB"), 57MHz and 16 bits, not to mention higher powered audio system, is anyone's guess.
@Zadster
@Zadster 5 жыл бұрын
For anyone interested in the history of Team17, I urge you to watch "The Story and Games of Team17 - Kim Justice" on here. You know at around 9:10 in the video it mentions that the DNA of the Wakefield office is in that PSU? In my case, that's literally true. I'm rather amazed to say that somewhere in this venerated, almost holy object, is my DNA. And I don't need to imagine what it was like to sit in that chair (spoilers: it was very... office chair-y). I started work there about 18 months after Worms 1 appeared (Hi Cris great to see you again! Also hi to Rory and the other Rory!) with the supposed job of maintaining the hardware there, but almost no money to do it. Sadly I was only there for a year or so, but the people there were epic. A total honour to see these artists do their thing, and all sorts of stuff that never made it into released games. Good times. I squeezed enough money out of Martyn to buy and fit at least one of those hard drives. Yeah the motors failed in other drives too. Sorry about that, we had to go for whatever was cheapest at Dabs or CCL whenever a new drive was needed. I think most of that Amiga's hardware actually belonged to Cris rather than T17 though - hence the Mac emulator etc? Not sure. I'm sure I remember it rendering more slowly than this too back then, so maybe a CPU upgrade happened. Lots of stuff was actually rendered on PCs or the SGI beast, but this Amiga is definitely the "daddy" Amiga. ISTR the monitor was a super flat Iiyama 17in CRT that weighed a ton. Oh - and it should be in a museum, preferably at home in the UK.
@benlewies8828
@benlewies8828 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing find! I spent days playing Worms as a kid! I just loved the humour in it!
@crazor01
@crazor01 5 жыл бұрын
That was absolutely amazing! I played worms first on PC, and I absolutely remember those animations. Thanks for that trip down memory lane!
@pdsnpsnldlqnop3330
@pdsnpsnldlqnop3330 5 жыл бұрын
3D for broadcast or video games was a cottage industry in those days with quite a low barrier to entry at one level (models were not exactly a sea of polygons) but with a high barrier to entry (hardware to render stuff and/or get it to tape was expensive, plus software such as Lightwave cost real money if you actually bought it). I actually think it is hard to get the whole kit and kaboodle working together, so this is quite a find. I am not sure how interested kids today would be in this if in a museum, what it actually needs is to be made into a KZbin series. Which seems to be happening. The hardware affected design decisions, so storyboarding mattered as did cheats, e.g. the cyclorama backdrop. How you did your render farm mattered too. Also the demise of the Amiga is a thing, when this was being made broadcast graphics were done on SGI boxes with Windows NT making a showing (Microsoft bought Softimage). So the Amiga was 'why are you using that'? as if it was a hobby thing not the real deal for 'broadcast' (not the same as games). I look forward to a retro series on how 3D modelling was done way back in the 1990's.
@welshwisdom
@welshwisdom 5 жыл бұрын
This is amazing brought back so many memories. I would love to add anything from the collection into my own. Thank you for bringing this back from the worm hole
@bobankrsmanovic9398
@bobankrsmanovic9398 5 жыл бұрын
Terrific video. I enjoyed Lightwave part a lot. Chris did outstanding job with these animations back then, all the modeling, rigging. textures, lightning, animations and render. Looks pretty good, even today... the editing of the shots was superb.
@Druman19
@Druman19 5 жыл бұрын
Super interesting episode! Awesome to have Lady Fractic make an appearance as well!
@Haremheb76
@Haremheb76 5 жыл бұрын
Ein geiler Trip! Weihnachten 1996, Grippe mit 42 Fieber. Nach zwei Tagen Dauerschlaf, als erstes den PC angeschmissen und mit meinem Cousin ein paar Runden Worms Gemetzel! Danke, Cris and to all the other 17'er!
@goldenappel
@goldenappel 5 жыл бұрын
This video came up on my recommendations and I'm so glad I clicked. Fantastic content and your presentation is so smooth and soothing, like the Bob Ross of retro gaming. Subscribed!
@RetroRecipes
@RetroRecipes 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words. Means a lot. 👍🕹
@mm-hl7gh
@mm-hl7gh 5 жыл бұрын
wow, that machine in the pinnacle of OG Amigas. thanks for this video!!
@almurray2000
@almurray2000 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. Truly wow. It’s great to reach back through time and dig up something truly worthy of preservation. Thankyou for bringing this to us.
@geezerdiamond
@geezerdiamond 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic find and great to see that old machine load up. Plenty of non-Worms stuff on there too (I spotted Arcade Pool!). I’ve voted for it to go to one museum as I think it should stay together as one exhibit. I would like to see everything released so that a community effort can happen to trawl through the drive images for hidden treasures! Thanks for a great video 👍
@ARTemychDigitalARTS
@ARTemychDigitalARTS 5 жыл бұрын
It was awesome to see this original 3D files of worms cutscenes. Thanks for that!
@FranksReactions
@FranksReactions 5 жыл бұрын
I've got an Amiga 500 from 1987 in my attic. I SO want to take it down and fire it up, but afraid that the whole thing would need a LOT of TLC before starting.
@RetroRecipes
@RetroRecipes 5 жыл бұрын
Do it.
@ShR33k
@ShR33k 5 жыл бұрын
That is an awesome contribution. I personally can't believe someone would literally hand their recognised work like that over. Whatever you do with it - it definitely needs a loving home with someone who will appreciate it (whether that be a retro museum or a viewer), whatever you decide to do! I think you did right not to retrobrite the machine. Great video!
@markpenrice6253
@markpenrice6253 5 жыл бұрын
Hopefully he also kept some backups behind...
@mrP3d
@mrP3d 5 жыл бұрын
wow! really enjoyed this episode - as a 3D guy myself I really appreciate the hard work people used to put into graphics back then, and especially when games like Worms were created. I too came from a background using LightWave on the Amiga, albeit on a much slower (but quite powerful computer for the time) - an Amiga 1200/030, creating images and some animations. I now use Cinema 4D and Octane Render, which is still very similar to back then, although it is now MUCH faster, but sadly not instant, lol. some of the stuff I've worked on, includes: Viva Amiga, The Retro Hour, David Pleasance's Book Cover, Amiga 30/32 and 34, etc. oh, and I created the image (at about 1 minute in) on this very video :) fantastic Video, looking forward to the next one :) mrP
@RetroRecipes
@RetroRecipes 5 жыл бұрын
And I love it! Thank you again! 👍🕹️
@mrP3d
@mrP3d 5 жыл бұрын
no problem @@RetroRecipes - it was cool to see my image on the startup of this video, with it being about graphics, and 3D graphic at that, loved it :) in fact, I have some ideas if you're interested? should I PM you?
@RetroRecipes
@RetroRecipes 5 жыл бұрын
Sure thing! We're connected on Messenger or email me via perifractic.com 👍🕹 Thanks!!
@devling6606
@devling6606 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome episode, played Worms on my amiga day and night back in the days. Great save.
@RetroJay1974
@RetroJay1974 5 жыл бұрын
This is what I love doing! Saving everything that made a particular machine what it was, always with the blessing of the original owner of course. Winuae has allowed hard drive imaging for sometime now. Always in admin mode and the little extra text in its icon info thing. Also a good one to know about and to have in your toolbox is HDDRegen! Now that program is amazing. I had a small 2.5" drive that failed, was sold as faulty and would click like mad at a certain point. I could not fix it in its native setup attached to an amiga, tried using all known tools via workbench and winuae, no dice. So I had nothing to loose at that point and tried hddregen on it. I got an 100% image out of it after that :)
@marcodierenfeldt9061
@marcodierenfeldt9061 5 жыл бұрын
I played Worms on the PC with my fiends and still play it with them when we meet eg. for birthdays. Thank you for giving us a glimpse of the history of worms! Im looking forward to the next episode...
@timmooney7528
@timmooney7528 5 жыл бұрын
It's good to see a historic workhorse brought out and run through it's courses again.
@judgewest2000
@judgewest2000 5 жыл бұрын
This is incredibly special. Thank you for making this video
@drphwoar
@drphwoar 5 жыл бұрын
I've never played Worms but what an excellent video!! It had everything, even an Ashley cameo. Always love your Amiga related vids.
@oneofthenorth
@oneofthenorth 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant once again! Much love for the amazing Ashley! Definitely a great partnership in the making 😁
@Davethehedgehog
@Davethehedgehog 5 жыл бұрын
Back in probably around 2002 I'd just finished my degree at University of Leeds. I'd spent literally my whole life dreaming about being a games programmer. I only lived maybe half an hour from the Team17 offices, I emailed them and I was invited to come to see them! I was so excited, I really thought it was an interview, I was so excited I couldn't believe it! It could have been the start of my dream, I had my sad little portfolio of 3d environments I'd created at uni, and games I'd thought of and documented. I met Cris, and they showed me around the offices and it was everything I ever dreamed of. They had a room to the side of the main office with a big screen, full of games where they would test and play. I remember watching one guy doing sound, he had those creative labs speakers on tripods around his desk. I can't recall, but I think it was worms3d they were making. Anyway, they were very nice and I left excited. I waited, and waited. I never heard anything back. I emailed them a week or so later, I didn't care what I was doing there, but I wanted to do it. I even offered to work for free. I didn't get a reply. That was a turning point in my life, where I gave up on my dream and turned to the world of work. Bit sad really. I guess I should be grateful for the opportunity to visit, and I am, but the young part of me is still upset that I never got any replies from them.
@RetroRecipes
@RetroRecipes 5 жыл бұрын
Whilst I hear your pain, I have to point out that, from my perspective, you experienced something I can only dream of and, again to me, you seem very lucky. I would have done anything to walk into such a developer's office and actually get a tour. You can look back into those memories and sights 'n' sounds any time you please, whereas some of us cannot. You are a very lucky man Dave. Thank you for sharing this nostalgic tale. 👍🕹
@Davethehedgehog
@Davethehedgehog 5 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRecipes Everything we do leads us to where we are, and I believe everything happens for a reason :-) I'm not bitter... and the visit really was a great experience. Nice people.
@loamyst1858
@loamyst1858 5 жыл бұрын
Hello Dave, Cris here. I'm sorry you never got a reply. Also, you may have met the other Chris as I had left Team17 in the late 90's and wasn't there in the 2000's. Also, don't feel bad about not hearing back as we were constantly bombarded with people, and I know the early 2000's was a crazy time for the Teamsters, they were still a young company then.. Indeed I didn't get into Team17 straight away. I helped out on Tower Assault, and before Worms landed they said they wanted to hire me, but they couldn't. Months and months went by before I got the call from Martyn. So, a lot of time we would get worthy candidates, but didn't have a place for them.
@Davethehedgehog
@Davethehedgehog 5 жыл бұрын
Hi! It was a long time ago, and my story's not unlike a thousand other 80's kids' who grew up on machines that you could make games on, before the industry exploded and the bar for entry got crazy high. Except I got to visit Team 17! My post seems more narky than I intended now I re-read it. I interviewed at a few places, Rare is the other one I remember driving hours to go visit. I remember being amazed that a firm who's games I'd grown up on, ESPECIALLY tower assault, were based in Wakefield of all places. All those games I played like crazy were made by people who lived less than 20 miles away. Make me proud. Now I feel like I need to go break out the old Amiga and fire it up. Thanks for the great memories of me and my mates crowded round a 14" telly with zipsticks!
@Daz5Daz
@Daz5Daz 5 жыл бұрын
Wow what a find. Man feels like it deserves a place in a museum.
@HoganFan69
@HoganFan69 5 жыл бұрын
this is the most amazing thing i've seen... this brought back so many memories
@mUbase
@mUbase 5 жыл бұрын
Cool find!!! I liked Worms back in the day..(i had an A500+ with 60Mb HDD and 8 Mb of memory.. I lovede Alien Breed and Proje ct X too!!
@julienderiviere4907
@julienderiviere4907 4 жыл бұрын
As a huge Worms fan, may I say..... THANK YOU
@dasce3
@dasce3 5 жыл бұрын
Thrilling and outstanding video, superb editing. Yes, WOW !! Thank you.
@maxsmarts8210
@maxsmarts8210 5 жыл бұрын
Oh man this was your best episode to me , I love Amiga , i love Worms. What a find!!!
@RetroRecipes
@RetroRecipes 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@povilasstaniulis9484
@povilasstaniulis9484 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the video ! The first ever CD based game I've ever owned was Worms Armageddon. One of my favorite games of all time. Still love it to this day, although it's been a while since I've last played any Worms game.
@RetroKrazy
@RetroKrazy 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing. I remember getting Worms back in the day and to see treasure troves like this still exist - big thanks to Chris for not binning it all!
@robabill
@robabill 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like i lived this adventure with you. I love this video. Its so real and meaningful :) This is the backbone of why retro gaming is so cool
@RetroRecipes
@RetroRecipes 5 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear as that was how I wanted it to feel. 👍🕹️
@robabill
@robabill 5 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRecipes I shared this on my Facebook group 'Games Masters'. Feel free to join bud.
@penpalbots4722
@penpalbots4722 4 жыл бұрын
What a haul! And its gone to a worthy home. You must have been like a kid on Christmas morning!
@ralfjung4156
@ralfjung4156 5 жыл бұрын
Bring this set to the computer history museum !
@johnherriot6056
@johnherriot6056 5 жыл бұрын
I love this, it's like a form of technical archaeology.
@sheep1ewe
@sheep1ewe 5 жыл бұрын
What an awsome pice of history! Worms was among my favorite games when i was younger, ha ha!
@youdontneedtoseehisidentif4939
@youdontneedtoseehisidentif4939 5 жыл бұрын
An absolutely amazing collection! I, sadly, never had an Amiga - Commodore went out of business just before my mother bought our family's first computer, and I haven't been able to afford one on the retro market :/ - but I played so, so many games of the original _Worms_ on the "classic" Macintosh!
@00Skyfox
@00Skyfox 5 жыл бұрын
Nobody could resist kissing Puppyfractic! That’s really amazing to find an original game development Amiga, along with one of the programmers who used it and all the accessory files/disks/tapes/documentation, in a shed. It’s great they all survived all this time, subsisting on arcade tokens and old Colecovisions. Makes me wish I had gotten into Amiga back then.
@positrone
@positrone 5 жыл бұрын
This machine deserves to go on a world tour to the next demo partys! Please reach out to NOVA, Assembly, The Gathering and Evoke . will just dust away in a retro museum. Let the best crews code thier compos on this veteran machine, and after that it can retire in an museum. (and of course some kinky pics with this amiga and debby bestwick, please)
@DatBlueHusky
@DatBlueHusky 5 жыл бұрын
that is insane! Im soo glad you where able to get all the data and save it.
@SuperVstech
@SuperVstech 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. What a great gift! Fantastic memories, terrific job.
@Capt.Marco-Hawk-L.L.A.P
@Capt.Marco-Hawk-L.L.A.P 5 жыл бұрын
omg! I love the worms game use to play it for hours, Amiga 4000 dreamed for many years to have one and when I had the money couldn't get one. that's an awesome piece of history a museum needs to save this
@TheAmigaGuru
@TheAmigaGuru 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, utterly brilliant. So cool to see old devs glow infront of their old platforms 😍
@BrettHesketh
@BrettHesketh 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, bringing back memories of a great game
@wormsT17
@wormsT17 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this !!! I've always loved the FMV's of the Worms series and this is just a dream find you got here, along with the man who made it all those years ago... Please, please, please !!! Do find a way to show off more of the lightway 3D development of the worms cutscene before you donate all the stuff. You truly made my day with this vid. Many Thanks Niki ;)
@RetroRecipes
@RetroRecipes 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Niki! Nice avatar you've got there 😉 What sort of thing would you like to see more of?
@wormsT17
@wormsT17 5 жыл бұрын
Retro Recipes Thanks, a friend of mine design it for me (search of an artist called sonicguru). More of the playback wireframe animation (like the one you shown with the worms using the uzi) along with a look of some of the models (in polygon or rendered mode) that where made from the FMV's. If that's possible? Once again, Thank You. Niki
@rustypine7634
@rustypine7634 5 жыл бұрын
What an acquisition!! I really enjoyed watching that. Such an trip down memory lane and I only played the game. Keep up the great content mate. 👌🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@musclesmouse
@musclesmouse 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is so awesome. Would be cool to navigate all this. Can’t wait to get access.
@reelmccoyfx
@reelmccoyfx 5 жыл бұрын
This video makes me miss the Amiga even more. :) And here's another person who still plays with Lightwave3d today although not nearly as often as back in the Amiga days.
@renezidek9592
@renezidek9592 4 жыл бұрын
thank you great video, I grow up on lightwave . I love that time.
@ScottWozniak
@ScottWozniak 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. My jaw is still on the floor. What an amazing save!
@christiansrensen3810
@christiansrensen3810 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you ..I remember I was thinking back then, being a young boy, that the big teams like team17... Was enomurusly rich. Driving big Ferrari tasterossa.. when emaginded and dreamed. There was no Google to tell us the Truth... So going back with you, I also remembered my feeling and hopes for the future when I would be adult. While we smashed those worms to smiderine.. thank you so much.
@Tyle_smalcu
@Tyle_smalcu 5 жыл бұрын
This is some kind of historic monument :) I love playing Worms Armageddon with friends
@AmyGrrl78
@AmyGrrl78 5 жыл бұрын
This is such an awesome Discovery! Can't wait to see more of this stuff shown off.
@RetroRecollections
@RetroRecollections 5 жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic discovery and preservation project. I true slice of gaming history! Thanks for sharing :)
@Lookoutmedia353
@Lookoutmedia353 5 жыл бұрын
cant believe i live around the corner from the building in Wakefield where this stuff took place and never knew the history of the place,
@beforth
@beforth 5 жыл бұрын
This is material for a museum, seriously. Great recovery for the history of video games.
@bit-ishbulldog2089
@bit-ishbulldog2089 5 жыл бұрын
If I was still employed for a company I worked for (a data analyst for energy companies) I could of backed them DAT tapes up for you.. I worked in a environment where we had 9-Track, 3590 - 5590, different types of cartridges etc. Basically all old data tapes I could of backed up.. If this find was a few years back I would of happily done it. Good find there.
@markpenrice6253
@markpenrice6253 5 жыл бұрын
There MUST be someone still offering that service, though it's a coinflip whether they do it Pro Bono or charge a king's ransom...
@Popmetalj
@Popmetalj 5 жыл бұрын
A momentous find and a wonderful video! Well done! I voted for the machine and assorted goods to end up in a retro museum. It's a complete treasure :)
@kpanic23
@kpanic23 5 жыл бұрын
Just to help you with imaging of those hard drives: Those USB to IDE adapters only work with hard drives supporting LBA addressing. Which usually are only drives being over 500MB. If there are smaller drives you can't read, chances are that they just don't support LBA mode. You might try connecting them to the real IDE interface of an older PC, maybe they can be imaged there.
@ToasterWithFur
@ToasterWithFur 5 жыл бұрын
A actually use a Programm on windows that can open adf files and mount amiga formatet drives (I haven't tested the mounting thing but it says it works, even with a USB ide adapter). It's called adfview. It works great for me and meaby it can be usefull for you when backing up more amiga hard drives
@ToasterWithFur
@ToasterWithFur 5 жыл бұрын
I should add that the program hasn't been updated in a while but still works on windows 10
@l0g1cb0mb
@l0g1cb0mb 5 жыл бұрын
What an epic save retro history!
@jerrywatson1958
@jerrywatson1958 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a year late but, this was wonderful. It took me back to when I had my A500 and later A2000. I used it for more than games.
@RetroRecipes
@RetroRecipes 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words. Means a lot! 👍🕹
@davidbanner9001
@davidbanner9001 5 жыл бұрын
Your voice Sir, makes my 6800 and Fat Agnus feel soooo good.
@TheEPROM9
@TheEPROM9 5 жыл бұрын
Lookup Louis Rossmann, He has recently started HDD recoverey & backups from dead machines.
@DPortain
@DPortain 5 жыл бұрын
TheEPROM9 There's also professional services with much more experience.
@kathrynradonich3982
@kathrynradonich3982 5 жыл бұрын
I was about to suggest him as well
@benbaselet2026
@benbaselet2026 5 жыл бұрын
I bet they deal with new drives. Better use someone who was active when these drives were made.
@Colin_Ames
@Colin_Ames 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe the most interesting episode I have seen. Outstanding!
@CrisBlyth
@CrisBlyth 5 жыл бұрын
Colin Ames it’s cos of the extra Scottishness there
@Colin_Ames
@Colin_Ames 5 жыл бұрын
Cris, that must be it 😀
@Tarbard
@Tarbard 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. I think I saw pictures of some of the storyboards in an amiga magazine article back in the day.
@Comakino
@Comakino 5 жыл бұрын
Another Team 17 Amiga recently sold on ebay, I heard it was the actual machine that produced the "Rocket!" and "Miffile!" Sound FX from Wipeout! Such a shame Amiga is no longer with us when their machines powered the dev teams for a lot of early PS1 and Windows stuff
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