"We Got Ourselves a Dead Beauty Queen" | Law & Order: SVU

[@cici_tlb4009]

“What woman would want a man who cant perform” trust me dude thats not the part women are backing away from…

[@alexanderelderhorst2107]

True. They're just backing away from men who don't make 7 figures

[@mjdrowned3762]

​@alexanderelderhorst2107 you're an incel and it shows

[@KomoliRihyoh]

@@alexanderelderhorst2107 Christ, dude, go to a therapist. You're too old to calling women gold diggers.

[@zeusandodin]

@@alexanderelderhorst2107 more the whole incel movement

[@poindextersheelturn436]

@@zeusandodin Whats wrong with what he said? Women nowadays prefer highly successful men even though they are below average in every category.

[@francostevo9939]

I can never understand the purpose of ridiculous beauty pageants; let alone where young children are involved.

[@AndrewBarsky]

Old rubes living vicariously through their children.

[@moneybilla]

facts tho but since trump ran some, should prolly ask him lmao

[@arielbujnowski3340]

I know, right?!?!

[@tomcurl8034]

It’s downright illegal in France

[@etcetera1995]

To make money for the parents.

[@lukerosales5879]

What bugs me is why the parole officer NEVER followed up on Tommy in the first place.

[@ddthewolf]

They never seem to, and they usually claim that it's because they have too much work to do 🙄

[@songoftheblackunicorn666]

Most people can't fly home once a week for hormonal management.

[@lukerosales5879]

@@songoftheblackunicorn666 law enforcement is responsible for making sure they don't reoffend, if wouldn't have cost much to have a doctor fly there for the shot.

[@songoftheblackunicorn666]

@@lukerosales5879 he flew back to Florida for the shot so he would not be caught leaving his allowed area of probation and then he took testosterone to get rid of the side effects without his po knowing. In this case corrections were doing their job

[@MissBaudelaire-z5f]

​@@lukerosales5879That's because law enforcement is useless and incompetent. The parole officer should have also been held accountable albeit possibly to a lesser extent.

[@KevinN-df8eo]

The defendants' look of horror was priceless. The jury was always going to convict - wouldn't you??

[@Luna_moon_1127]

5:16 I’m Sorry I didn’t mean to hurt her? You picked her up in your van and sexually assaulted a little nine-year-old girl if that’s not hurt I don’t know what is you meant to do that you saw her and you were like oh yeah there’s a nine-year-old. Let me pick her up in my car. You definitely meant for that to happen. Ergo, you meant to hurt her which is just disgusting.

[@artificergarinflinthoof4750]

Honestly victim blaming happens a lot. She was wearing this I couldn’t help myself… she was drinking so she put herself in that situation… I was a kid in college I can’t be responsible for my actions… she was mean to me so I hit her and did what I wanted anyway.. it’s honestly ridiculous

[@KaitlinHopson]

My mom said that what happened to me was an accident and a mistake……I don’t know how you mistakenly or accidentally SA a 8 year old for five years. People need help man. 🤦‍♀️

[@WerePuppyOfEnglandAndCanada]

He couldn't control his urges plus he felt guilty for it, he's not a souless monster. He was really trying to be a better person which means he was fighting his urges for a long time and that can be a painful experience. At least he tried to stop himself

[@Luna_moon_1127]

@@artificergarinflinthoof4750 I know lol as a girl it disgusts me that guys can use the old but she was wearing that. I couldn’t help myself to try and defend them so it really sickens me that guys think they can get away with stuff like this and you know I’m glad that there are some things different than there were like say 60 years ago, but a lot of women are still afraid to say no and my mom used to sell stickers in her store that used to say no is a complete sentence if a girl says no, she doesn’t need to give you an explanation. You don’t need to ask why no means no the day that all guys learn that is the day that there will be no issues like this anymore. Hopefully I know I’ll never be around to see it, but I do. hope it happens someday where this kind of thing never happens

[@Luna_moon_1127]

@@WerePuppyOfEnglandAndCanada bottom line is he gave into the urges, which is not OK if he was starting to feel like he couldn’t control his urges anymore he could’ve gone to any emergency room to get help so that he wouldn’t of hurt somebody it happens where people have these urges that they can no longer control and they will go and get help and they’ll usually talk to a psychiatrist in the emergency room and if needed be admitted not for this reason, but I had urges of self harm in my depression is really bad and when I had the feeling that I couldn’t control the urges anymore, I went to the emergency room to talk to someone I know the urges are not necessarily the same but the solution to when you can’t control urges anymore is always getting help not taking out your urges on an innocent child

[@spicybeantofu]

"i didnt want to hurt her" you mean you didnt mean to kill her cause you ment to hurt her

[@CharizardMaster69]

in real life this would get overturn by a higher court within the hour.

[@MackeyBigBoy4014]

Barry Moredock, the defense attorney in this episode said that at the end of that episode.

[@ShadeKoopa]

​@@MackeyBigBoy4014Didn't the defendant also get shot and killed as he was leaving the court house in this episode?

[@MackeyBigBoy4014]

@@ShadeKoopa Different episode, I believe.

[@naomipask1809]

Why would this get turned over? Did he ask for a lawyer?

[@draco84oz]

The defense lawyer at the end is John Cullum as Barry Moredock, one of Cabot's former law professors who tends to show up in cases where there's a constitutional matter at stake (in this case, the 1st Amendment)

[@jonah.donohue]

Yet ALWAYS LOSES

[@draco84oz]

I know of one case he didn't lose - but that was because the defendant shot up the court room before being killed by an FBI agent before the case could end!

[@criminalitycollective]

And Noah’s father from the Notebook!

[@joewhitehead3]

& then in a later episode, Cabot basically calls him out on how the constitution doesn’t fly in the real world

[@MackeyBigBoy4014]

He also helped that Culkin kid in season 5, that Neo-Nazi in season 7.

[@victoriathorne8252]

Olivia, Munch,& Finn have always been my favorites on this show

[@KingDeuces22]

24 hours later this conviction is overturned and the judge and DA are admonished for even bringing such a ludicrous case to trial.

[@dragonsguardianofcrystalhearts]

It needs to be illegal to explore that dark side. Needs to be made law that absolutely no minors whether ai or real should be in content like that. Disgusting.

[@xientau9028]

While I do at least partially agree with the sentiment and am 100% on board with a complete ban on photographic depictions of such situations, since the production of such material requires getting an actual underage subject involved in such a situation, I am always wary when it comes to the discussion regarding banning fictional artworks, because of the precedent it sets and the slippery slope it could create to banning other fictional subjects. I don't want to give anyone a carte blanche to dictate what artists can and cannot draw, regardless of how disgusting the subject is. Edit to add: Today it's fictional children, tomorrow: depicting politicians or other government members in any way that is less than flattering? There are certain countries today where drawing something like that could get you either jailed or straight up executed. That is NOT the kind of sentiment I want imported.

[@mevan883]

I know Canada and South Korea outlaw it, but for the U.S. it's protected by the first due to it being fictional art children.

[@katiebonser9712]

This case was based on a real-life case known as Jon Bennet Ramsey case.

[@JennNofficial]

They even mention that in the show

[@katiebonser9712]

@@JennNofficial her case is still unsolved to this day, the killer behind it is probably dead and gloating about it in hell.

[@ARw275]

@@katiebonser9712terrible police work lead to that

[@katiebonser9712]

@@ARw275 cause they were sloppy and incompetent

[@JennNofficial]

@@katiebonser9712 oh I know it’s so dang sad it’s still unsolved I feel bad for her family

[@nvm9040]

Why even let your kids as beautiful as they’re just enter beauty pageants especially since it’s the parents who feel like they can exploit their kids for their looks

[@joewhitehead3]

It’s supposed to build character apparently

[@anaasma989]

Love seeing his surprisingly shocked face at the end hehe so long sucker!

[@flamiaminu5536]

Unfortunately such a case would not hold in appeal. At worst he'll get a slap on the wrist.

[@amarismiller3905]

@2:28 that's the lady from "Last Holiday"😭😭 she plays Gunther. I never knew she was in an episode of SVU

[@jeniferkenney2984]

Love these early cases! ❤

[@ET_Explorer]

2:28 That woman reminds me of the ack ack martian leader.

[@bitterbeauty6144]

🤣

[@vixxxenfoxxx3660]

Oh please say this is a Mars Attacks reference

[@songoftheblackunicorn666]

I love it. If this was real life and you could prosecute spam like this

[@tinachen9728]

This tv show is based on a true story happened in America most talented pageant young child that is brutally killed in the basement and being raped and it hasn’t been solved in more than a decade she was killed before I was even born the brother was at home when it happened and a strange phone call to the father to demand the beauty pageant money winners.

[@matthewrogers94mr]

Im glad from what I know CP is not allowed and very much shunned.

[@heartbrakermj9467]

This episode was crazy

[@victoriathorne8252]

May munch rest in peace

[@TheDurid1]

Just to point out the flipside of this... protecting the public from temptation. Sharia law, that forces women to remain in a burning building because they lost their head covering, for moral reasons. There has to be a point that the responsibility of giving into temptation is on the one tempted, not the tempter. Especially on things that over 95% of people can use responsibility.

[@user92248]

Ehhh. Nope. Sharia law doesn't. It actually commands men to lower their gazes

[@faariasadiq]

Hi, just wanted to point out, i am a woman following shariah law. At no point does the law stipulate that we must remain in a burning building if we lose our head covering. Human life is sacred!

[@sandraleightner8950]

@@faariasadiq On March 11, 2002, 15 young girls were left to die in a fire at their school in Mecca. They could have escaped the fire but were not allowed to flee the burning building as they were not wearing proper 'Islamic' clothes.

[@lindakimberly4170]

@@sandraleightner8950 I would be willing to guess that there was more at play here than the girls' heads were uncovered. There are zealots in every faith who would rather obey the letter of the law rather than the intent.

[@Nameless.stranger]

What a stupid assumption. Let me guess you're american?😂

[@joewhitehead3]

A pedophile that you can almost actually feel sorry for. Even Stabler went on easy on him

[@francostevo9939]

2 things. 1. When I watched the episode I never thought I would feel sorry for a pedophile right here. 2. When first watching it surprise that Stabler wasn’t harsh on the guy. STABLER!!! This is Elliot Stabler we are talking about.

[@joewhitehead3]

@@francostevo9939 Maybe Stabler saw how broken this guy was. That he was owning up to what he did with remorse & hatred of himself

[@francostevo9939]

@@joewhitehead3it’s funny because I didn’t think stabler would buy that. Usually whatever kind of remorse a pedophile showed, stabler doesn’t buy that.

[@joewhitehead3]

@@francostevo9939 As a cop, I think it was easy for Stabler to tell

[@andreweggleston4410]

Yeah he felt remorse for what he did not like Jonbenet Ramsey's killer who is or was probably a pure evil child molester killer Tommy broke down in tears in court the defense attorney said "who fault was that Tommy?" "mine" even the girl's parents knew he accepted responsibility for what he did Tommy knew he was a sick pervert killer and he admitted that without telling any lies but he still tried to get away with it but in the end the accepted his fate.

[@joyhahn2572]

that little nod and then look of shock as the jury said their conclusion. bro was sure he was going to be innocent

[@JustAJinx-ci6hg]

First thought: Oh A Dinosa-oh wait nevermind. And... comparatively... I bet he would rather it have been a bomb and not a child.

[@JackiePhillipsTheSocialPet]

Great decision!!

[@deniseshephard3347]

Beauty Pageants why why why are children most used

[@iso-didact789]

Of course they have to ripoff jonbenet.

[@michaelleguen5103]

[@mtawali13]

Why do Americans have these child shows??

[@karentladi7498]

I think it's coz they deal with stuff like this in real life.

[@arielg7000]

oh man not cool

[@Freddie-x4s]

Wood chipper

[@zeusandodin]

4:50 say that again...

[@lukevidal2986]

Listen this doesn’t seem like he was on the hunt he looked more like he had to take care of his urges obviously something must have made him act out after the injection would only give him his drive no way he would act that quick

[@AnvilMAn603]

9:39 im sorry but as repugnant as i find this buisness model, its not their fault he didnt outright block the email address

[@thegreenmanofnorwich]

They may have cut a line, but a lot of sites that spam people with marketing will autogenerate any number of email addresses. Usually a garbled mess of characters @ several variations of the domain, or using any number of domain names. It makes them rather difficult to block, especially in the latter case where you can't even just successfully block the domain.

[@yvonnetomenga5726]

@Anvil • I'm not sure that technology existed when this episode was made.

[@ugan2]

He requested they take him off their emailing list. Honestly, if they're doing this and most of their base are perverts of the disgusting kind you want to be paying attention when they say "stop sending me this" and ensure they're taken off.

[@ugan2]

Note it's also similar to how social media would block and ban accounts that post disturbing content (not saying they're perfect at it). You're dealing with a controversial product with controversial (to say the least) customers. Taking him off the list when he requested that ensuring that's a thing in general was just common sense to save your hide in case something like this happens because you can confidently say "not on me".

[@lizanna6390]

There's no way of knowing how many different addresses they are using to bombard as many people as possible as often as possible

[@sarahhejab6596]

😮

[@melaniekendall4903]

It's only a TV show 🙄

[@joewhitehead3]

What’s your point?

[@mariaytinexposer]

78

[@maryalbright8568]

Early

[@zarrinbari3542]

The poor mother of the child might of let this happen because of the father of the child that The poor mother of the child she forced married

[@lauracamilleri2072]

How do you figure that? The child was abducted, raped and killed. How on earth is her father or mother to blame? Your comment makes no sense.

[@YOUTUBEUSER00033]

OMG