"We had to sell two" | EXCLUSIVE: Angus Kinnear Interview

[@awaydaysfootball]

Just the best fan podcast any club has by far

[@iamnojedi7241]

We need you on it 😅

[@fotisalatas3698]

i second that. They don't cause drama, they have amazing chemistry and banter with each other and they make you always feel that you are in the room with them. nothing against any other leeds united creator, most of them are great but TSB really makes you feel that you are in this room with them for some reason.

[@andrewplaysyellow]

Correct, the amount of insight is amazing. I’m always surprised by the sub count being so low.

[@sammiiejayde9438]

Please mention this channel on yours Ellis!!! Needs more subs as you no....Also watch all yours MOT

[@jondenman8798]

​@@iamnojedi7241 Especially now there's the West Stand guest spot episodes 👀

[@ScottTetleyy]

Have to appreciate Angus appearing on these things annually, whether you agree with him or not you've got to respect the fact he opens up to face questions.

[@CK-wd3zv]

not just open to questions but really direct and clear with his answers. gotta respect that tbf. he seemingly really knows and cares about the inner fabrics of the club and is committed to its success. Either that or he's a really good bullshitter

[@bwoahgeetee]

@@jd-rm4ez ok lil buddy

[@jeffgleisner890]

I don't get this gratitude thing. Weren't or aren't any of you a member of a Trade Union ? Kinnear got rid of Bielsa, recruited Marsch, allowed the latter to bring a lot of dross to the club while letting a player like Leif Davies depart and it seems Archie Gray ("we didn't have to sell him") etc ch,

[@bwoahgeetee]

@@jeffgleisner890 a player like lief Davis? He was shit for us. Never really showed any potential and yet he has one good season and all of a sudden we were wrong to sell? Get a grip stop being so fickle. Also he may have made mistakes but it is still good of him to come on the square ball and answer difficult questions. Grow up

[@jeffgleisner890]

Davis never played a season. When he returned from injury he was put in central defence. So we never got much of a chance to see him at full back. His pace and left foot were obvious though. Anyway I trust Bielsa's judgement more than yours. He stated that Davis had the attributes to be a great player.

[@neilbentley7307]

How this show has less subs than other Leeds podcasts is beyond me. Unlike others who come on and just repeat themselves for the sake of putting out ‘content’ for an hour or more sometimes several times a day, these shows are spot on- right frequency, right length, and always fresh. Love Dan and Michael. Great job guys 👏

[@thewhitbyphotographer]

This is by far the best. Quality over quantity and they have the guests people are interested in hearing from.

[@soapboxparishrecordings5287]

Agree agree agree! Everyone else is putting out sensationalise rumoured gossip as content. But obviously the masses seem to want that (which is weiiird). Square ball, joe Blackburn and the view with Ger are the only levelheaded reliable ones 🎉🎉

[@joshdobson4685]

I'd imagine it's because youngsters aren't watching the square ball and there's more young fans on KZbin than there is adults

[@thewhitbyphotographer]

@@joshdobson4685 You Tube stats show that the largest user group is 45 plus. The kids are on Tik Tok.

[@Aanike09]

Not listened to it yet, but honestly fair play to him for doing these. Literally no other CEO puts themself in such a position and even though I get mad at most things this club does, this is something I really appreciate.

[@retrovoltarcade]

Great episode lads - best comment “you’ve met them in court before “ 😂😂 Normanton you legend! 😂😂

[@samslufcblog7165]

I have to salute Angus for coming on this. Very few club CEO's would come on to a fan led podcast and take pelters from the fanbase

[@thesmithselvis]

Congratulations to the Square Ball, securing the annual state of the nation address.

[@yeo2890]

Great interview, well done Dan for being probing but respectful, well done Michael for staying quiet for the most part! And great respect to Angus for putting himself out there, he doesn’t need to do it, and anybody with an ounce of sense knows that there is going to be an air of diplomacy in his responses to the questions. A real coup for TSB that he comes back year on year, I feel there is mutual respect. Well done, long May it continue.

[@georgepalcic731]

"saw them in court of course" had me crying 🤣🤣 another great episode lads

[@billystevenson4281]

Anybody who sees Angus in person must thank him for making sure the fans always get answers 👏 mot

[@mightywhite4553]

Massive respect to Angus for doing this , wether I agree or disagree with what he says , the fact that he comes on and speaks, says alot about the man , MOT ALAW

[@joepickford6219]

Impressed every year how good the questions are. You guys do a great job relaying fans questions and it’s so useful to hear from Angus regarding the direction of the club.

[@rossomac21]

1:00:29 "you saw them in court of course" should be in the Square Ball, Hall of Fame.

[@alexsteel2519]

Michael is forever the best thing about Leeds United

[@andrewbuchanan1334]

Great job Dan and Michael. Brilliant work

[@samswales1873]

"we've built a relationship with the Red Bull team...' 'You saw them in court of course' gwooon Michael 🤣🤣

[@Wokisan]

😂😂😂 01:00:26

[@oweneveritt7673]

Had me howling 😂

[@martinpacker8583]

Best Leeds podcast going, thanks so much Dan and Michael (you cheeky bugger). And fair play to Angus, for keeping coming back every year for these chats.

[@joeboygypsy]

I neither like or dislike Angus Kinnear but I do respect him for doing this yearly.

[@leefaulkner1982]

Massive kudos to Angus for yet again seemingly giving an honest insight.... most is obvious to some fans but hopefully it opens people's eyes in what needs to happen to gain ground on the big boys of the league. Seems to have a good grasp on current affairs too and the wider morality obstacles which will always be hard to overcome.

[@colinclifton9930]

The highlight of the year from the best Leeds podcast. Well done Dan and Michael and thank you Angus for being prepared to do this and for your straightforward answers.

[@charlie17401]

excellent interviewing Dan , top class mate ......

[@SnifferAlan1972]

A big thank you to Angus for shedding some light on several issues. Respect 👍

[@charlestoher1529]

I really really rate Angus. Doesn’t deserve the flak he gets, seems a great guy and a good personality. Can tell he cares.

[@ashandrews-north5218]

He takes his job very seriously and believes in Leeds United

[@jeffgleisner890]

How can you really rate someone who believes in the free market beats me.

[@gerardmooney9912]

I like Angus, I don't always agree with everything he does but I do like him

[@mightywhite4553]

I'm the same it's far too easy to throw blame about etc,etc , but I do genuinely believe he's a good guy and wants the same as us as fans

[@nickwall2497]

You could say that about anyone really

[@gerardmooney9912]

@nickwall2497 then say it about Jesse Marsch

[@markbetteridge313]

Oh fuck no ​@@gerardmooney9912

[@maxc222]

1:00:30 That’s why these guys are the best

[@JaxBrianF]

And FWIW, when I watched, the views were just under 4k and the likes were just over 400. This clearly deserves a 4 figure like count.

[@rpastrology]

Great interview. Honest, frank. Not many clubs get that from the owners and board. My gut feeling is that we're in good hands

[@shaw13]

Superbly done Dan & Michael. Great balance of nice enough to get Angus back again and outright aggression. "You saw 'em in court of course" was the highlight.

[@cumannach6739]

This is genuinely the best podcast going, whether I'm at the gym, at my computer or on a walk I stick these on and it brings a lot of joy! good on Angus for showing up to these even if its annually it takes a lot of gall!

[@anthonymaddaford8474]

Top notch upload lads, decent questions too. You can tell this isn’t just a fluff piece. Credit to kinnear for coming on again, even if he does predictably play a straight bat at times.

[@aaronwallace6527]

Great interview as ever! I’d love to see the behind the scenes, where Angus slags off Radz, Orta, and yellow kits when the camera is off

[@jillmundy4121]

😂

[@davedurave2]

Great job guys well done for Angus agreeing to do this. MOT

[@tweakLeeds2006]

Excellent journalism by the voice of the fans. Respect to Angus for turning up and answering a lot of the questions as honestly as he could due to his position within the club.

[@Cranndaddy]

Nice to see comments in general agreement with the sentiment I share. Always massive respect to Angus. Regardless of what happens, it’s football, and he is a great speaker when he comes on here

[@damienabbott9805]

Thanks Dan and Michael for conducting an amazing interview 🙏 And thank you Angus for coming on the show (again) and enlightening us with everything going on at board level and beyond. 🙏 💙💛🤍

[@petemolloy885]

Brilliant by all parties. Fair questions, fair answers. Would have loved a complete answer to how much of the old sins we still have to repay or have they all gone now. Hope Angus can return next year as our Premier league CEO.

[@adambush2038]

Top class interview again lads! Fair play to Kinnear, answers the difficult questions too! Let’s get behind the lads, manager, owners and staff and let’s get promoted. MOT

[@josephweightman8806]

Fantastic show. Fair play to angus

[@stefj4660]

Enjoyed that. Cheers lads 🤍💙💛

[@tastas8554]

I came into the comments hoping that they were positive and I wasn't disappointed 😊

[@dc3g]

Fair play to Angus coming on once again. Well done lads, good and fair. I know people want just to beat him but its really good every year to see this meeting and conversation. ❤

[@Mrstreet1999]

“You saw them in court of course” absolutely killed me off

[@lizgillvray1593]

😂

[@LeoDragon34]

That was class. A proper interview, with tough questions, answered as fully as we could have hoped, and with total respect on both sides. Hugely informative and enjoyable. Well done Dan and Michael. And thanks to Angus for opening himself up to this line of questioning. Not many CEOs do.

[@JaxBrianF]

Calling this a fantastic interview undersells it. If you're a perenial skeptic, you'll hear Kinnear's arguments as excuses. If you're more reasonable, it's insight into the decision making. At the very least Kinnear comes across as honest in delivery and frankly I have no reason to believe he's playing language games or is purposely obtuse or evasive. Thought the questions were respectfully and professionally framed, not surprising consider how Michael and Dan approach their craft. If you're not inside the business, it's hard to appreciate how the machine works. Fans need to be educated or understand it's never as simple as we think and the number of cogs in the gears are beyond our comprehension. Doesn't mean our opinions are necessarily wrong or that their decisions were optimal, but I'm not inclined to look for blame (when I'm at my better self). I'm curious. I want to know why. This episode satisfies that need. Dan/Michael, excellent work. Thank you for being reputable and trusted. Doesn't happen if TSB is some throw away click-bait podcast.

[@kennyclarke5976]

Brilliant listen. Really interesting to hear a bit of behind the scenes

[@darrenwalsh8546]

Really interesting thsat, fair play Angus for being as open as possible and honest, not many clubs would see this sort of interview so hopefully the annual grilling continues.

[@darrenevans99]

Great podcast, and respect to Angus again for doing this and clarifying lots of items.

[@undeadbassman]

Really love these annual interviews. You’re brilliant at doing it and Angus is always refreshingly open and candid. It wasn’t a perfect window by any means but it’s nice to know that virtually all the players they did sign really wanted to come to Leeds.

[@BenjaminBloom]

Fascinating listen guys 👏👏

[@Glynnster]

I don’t care what anyone says! The squad is far more balanced than last season! What other club gets someone this high up going on a fan podcast ? It’s great times ahead

[@jbmb194]

I agree no longer team just of individual players who did not produce in the playoff final which gutted me on the day deffo more balanced now

[@jeffgleisner890]

Balanced at a lower level though.

[@Glynnster]

@@jeffgleisner890 nope

[@ChrisGray-h5u]

Fair play for the honesty and I genuinely believe him on the red bull thing plus as he said players had a choice to leave and went simple

[@piratescoron]

Well i listerned to Kinner each time hes done an open interview, and I always see him as a spin merchant. I thought this time he did the same again. If you look carefully at most things he said, hes giving the politicians answer, no meat on the bone, and side stepping around several areas

[@markbetteridge313]

Whereas 99% of comments on here think otherwise, funny that...

[@mick6370]

​@@markbetteridge313That's because people or fans are easily pleased or brainwashed, he was part of the problem along with Orta with these contracts he was was in them meetings with Orta he's no different from a politician giving out bull to appease People

[@jeffgleisner890]

I'm with you on this Mick.

[@Mrlemidge]

he's not gonna come on here and slag the board/ownership/manager whoever is he?

[@burtlangoustine1]

I'd post scouts in the Spanish 2nd division, Angus. It's a technician factory.

[@Kimberley4231]

Thx, guys. Loved this.

[@lizgillvray1593]

Really good open discussion and reflections. Love the transparency where he is able to be. Good job square ball team!

[@Theprecinctpub]

Fair play boys difficult balancing act got to give AK props for having the nuts to front up ..again ..the voice of our support delivers again 👏👏👏

[@iancollenette5974]

Great interview guys. And fair play to Angus for seemingly answering honestly.....at least where he could. time will tell. Good job lads. MOT.

[@Ash_lufc_1987]

Definitely the best podcast that represents Leeds!

[@rrggray]

Great to have Angus on. Lots of pedantic questions based on gossip which were put to bed.

[@ashandrews-north5218]

Angus dropping truth bombs about the Saudis

[@PJon1926]

Well done Angus, toughest job in football

[@cornwallandbeyondwithsmith8119]

Great interview guys. Hats off to Angus for coming on again! End of the day look back on one of the Amazon programs where Angus says we can’t take the risk of keeping a 50 million pound player! Kalvin that was! Proof will be in the pudding about the b plus window. If we are not top 2 at the next break I can see a new manager spending the money in January

[@DJ_c2x]

''You saw them in court of course'' Hahaha Michael

[@jonmulholland4336]

Excellent episode - very informative

[@jackbarry4903]

This episode has been very insightful and something that most other clubs don’t get👍

[@gregor125]

“You saw them in court of course” 🤣

[@IsaacHenryinAK]

I can't believe he said that. I had to rewind it to hear what Angus said because I was laughing so loud. Dan snickering in the background made me laugh again and I had to rewind a 3rd time.

[@adamf7120]

Decent interview always good to see him come and do these. Biggest thing I can't understand is that we said we'd spend the maximum PSR would allow us to. Given we were bidding 10m+ for a 10 that never arrived we clearly didn't, gets harder and harder to get up each year and we've ended up taking a gamble that wasn't needed

[@johnmknox]

You sold three players, and now we are floundering. We were thrashed 3-0 at home by Middlesbrough, failed to beat West Brom, struggled against Portsmouth, and lost 0-1 at home to a Burnley team in disarray. It is clear we need a new manager, and we still don't have a new director of football despite Victor Orta leaving in May 2023.

[@777jimothy]

Lol at Michael saying we know red bull from court 😂

[@simonjrushby]

I really enjoyed this from Angus. I like it when he said relegation is ugly. It’s what we all know but can’t stand to hear. I don’t believe they have got much wrong at all. We are up against a big league that over-inflates these smaller clubs…they will get it right. I trust them…

[@lukea997]

I love this and cleary the fanbase does too, makes everything so much more digestable, thank you Angus

[@stevemccready1826]

Great interview guys, love that you have the exclusive with Angus as BIG DOGS of Leeds fan channels, he answered all your questions well, love the top 8 or 9 reference to Newcastle and Villa. 49ers seem ambitious 👍⚽️

[@frazerlamb9016]

Excellent job as always guys

[@johnmckeown9075]

Also need to add Angus is a top man and I have confidence we will get the job done this year. MOT

[@Dotsee25]

Also...WOOT YELLOW SHIRT, got me one...looks freakin awesome

[@MarkMcallister-lp2ol]

Clubs in good hands thanks gents fantastic work yet again

[@AyubKhan-xz2wv]

Well done Square Ball, another excellent interview. Angus is clearly articulate, experienced and a knowledgeable CEO. He has to be open to scrutiny which he was. He also needs to acknowledge his mistakes in not challenging the Orta regime on transfers and the debts we still owe. What lessons have we learned from that. I am also unclear about the intent of Red Bull. Whilst he is calming of the situation, they will want a return like all investors, that’s when we really have to be watchful about stadium sponsorship and name changes. Thanks again for the interview. Well done 👏🏽👏🏽

[@williamsharp471]

Fair man Angus for facing the noise, there’s still a cloud hanging over 49ers.

[@gingerburns9125]

"You saw them in court of course" 🤣🤣🤣👏🏻👏🏻

[@TeleTonemonkey]

Should have backed Marcelo when he came 9th!

[@ashandrews-north5218]

We could do a lot worse than Angus. Great questions from the lads

[@davidpickup5832]

Who did we talk to @ Sheff Utd regarding the Bogle transfer if we had no one to contact regards the Hamer offer, Kinnear ought to be a politician!

[@DirtyLeedz]

Fair play to Angus for joining Dan and Michael again, and tbh he came across very well, didn’t duck a single question.

[@soapboxparishrecordings5287]

47:34 fuuudge! He went there!! 😮😂 respect to him

[@bluecheese20401]

This is so rare. Thanks angus

[@LucasGibbo]

Been waiting for this

[@chrisrichardson5479]

Fair play to Angus, doesn't have to come on and get grilled, I think he's great and happy that he's at our club!

[@Smiler7]

"We had to sell two" says Angus. The others they sold/moved on was just for fun?? We got £140 million in, so if the two players we had to sell were Archie and Cry at £30 million plus £25 million = £55 was all we needed, which leaves £90million we did not need??!! So why did we not buy the striker we are desperate for, and the midfield player????? MOT!

[@isaacelmi4089]

I appreciate his feedback a lot. It’s refreshing to hear directly from the board on such a deep level. Respect 🫡

[@TeleTonemonkey]

Interesting that his statement that, investment meant we we weren’t gutted of all our decent players by a raft of £10m bids …. That is what should have been communicated! Imagine losing Pascal, Willy, Amps ….

[@kevwoods6827]

Makes you wonder what the top 6 thought when Leeds finished 9th?

[@CB-xr1eg]

Does Angus usually speak with a stutter, or was Dan making him nervous? If you edited out the stutters you'd have a 60 minute video.😂

[@conorroche7894]

Farke and Co failed to get promotion. 9ers bought Leeds for 170mil, sold 140 mil in players while keeping 100% ownership.

[@stevecollins4742]

"We've definitely been dependent on 2 or 3 players"... that'll be the 3 players we sold then !

[@ashandrews-north5218]

Gray had a release clause and chose to go to Spurs. Summerville was always going. Way too much hype around him to stay. Rutter shocked us all, but again, this is what we get for not going up

[@jasonwebster5806]

Great episode gents he looked like he was uncomfortable at times

[@jbmb194]

Brilliant

[@Jasonalbanie]

I'm 16,000 on the season ticket waiting list been on it about 3 years, I called the club they told me my place. So if new stadium adds about 20,000 seats say and say even only 1/3 goes to hospitality then that's optimistically about new 14,000 season tickets. So why are they continuing to take money from 22,000 people on an ever-growing paid waiting list when in reality none of us will ever get a season ticket probably in our lifetimes given theres only about 30 tickets given up per year on renewal? Good interview and fair play to Angus for doing it each year.

[@mick6370]

Leeds fans are very fickle and soon abandon the club when things don't go well that's when you'll get your chance, the ground will only sell out if the club does well.

[@conorroche7894]

Leeds should be competing at the top of Europe winning. That's the mindset needed.

[@john_halifax]

Respect to Angus

[@rabbitleader2307]

Kinnear : 31.15 We didn't need to sell Archie for PSR. Well well well.....There we F**KING GO!!!!