We need to go through this please! Lets Talk Cars

[@Challengetheroad]

Thanks for your comments - My Information was not correct on Secondhand EVs - the luxury Tax is only for New EVs in 2025 for Years 2 through 6. It now worries me why you would buy a new EV as you have huge depreciation and now much more Tax to pay! I feel pain for Car Manufacturers on new sales ahead. Richard

[@neilturner6749]

But nobody buys a new EV do they? Surely they’re all owned via Lease or PCP rental agreements - in which case both the first-registration tax (VED) and depreciation are factored into the monthly cost. Increasing the VED simply means the dealer/manufacturer has pay it themselves and swallow even more of a loss, because if they tried to pass that added cost onto the consumer by increasing the monthly rental cost, they just won’t sell enough cars. That’s not an option because, as per legislation, they must sell 26% of production volume as electric vehicles.

[@AGTC009]

Why buy a new anything now ! If it is over 42k I think it is we have have to pay this lovely save the planet George Osbourne tax BS for 5 years ! The secondhand market of cars 4 or 5 years old will be strong !

[@f1kwa399]

@@AGTC009I think you’ll find it’s £40k, I’ve been looking at used C-class convertibles, quite often the ones that are less than six years old are cheaper than the older ones because none of us want to pay the ridiculous road tax, and the newer ones are mild hybrid too so less pollution.

[@dps615]

It's not been confirmed yet you'll be hit with luxury car tax for new ev's worth more than 40k in 2025. Chances are you won't be

[@mrmr9767]

Does anything going on in this country make sense?

[@Challengetheroad]

Not really 🤣

[@AJ-qn6gd]

I too started with nothing and I still have most of it left !

[@GazMoby]

£40k is no longer the cost of a luxury car.

[@P6UL_K]

The whole road tax/emissions issue is a complete farce! So I live on the border of the ULEZ area that’s surrounds London, I own a 2007 Vauxhall Vectra VXR (Special) which is a Band L and I currently pay £710 per year on road tax due to the fact that it’s ‘meant’ to be bad for the environment due to its emissions… But in contrast to that it’s ULEZ compliant which is an emissions based scheme! So is it bad for the environment or not?! Confused.

[@Hali88]

Different types of emissions. ULEZ targets emissions bad for human health which old diesels tend to emit more of. VED targets CO2 emissions which large NA engined cars tend to emit more of. Hope this helps.

[@chrishart8548]

Wow £710 to tax a Vectra that's oborant

[@barneyrubble9309]

look, NET zero REQUIRES a massive reduction in road usage so that means getting you OFF THE ROAD PERIOD!! so the way they do that is to price you off the road...wont affect them cos they give themselves exemptions or pay rises to cover it.

[@Richardturpentine]

Living in the Eastern Valley South Wales we once had TWO train lines carrying passengers from the Welsh Metropolis. Why TWO so as to Rape our fair valley of its mineral wealth. Now we have none and it’s a mess. Public transport and road traffic is always at a standstill. If you believe the country isn’t broken Travel from the Welsh capital to Blaenavon any time of the day it’s brutal. Progressive governments have robbed us living in this valley they have taken the goods without payment.

[@InfiniteImprobabilityRacing]

Road tax is no longer driven by emissions - it is driven by the need of the new government to raise as much tax as is possible to fund its spending desires. It is easier to separate motorists from their money when their car is valuable than when it is not.

[@itspart]

Road tax was set up to pay to fix the roads.

[@KeatB]

@@itspartroad tax hasn’t existed since 1937…….

[@Hali88]

The new government haven't really made any big changes to it, the £190 no matter the CO2 emissions for 67 plate cars onwards and the extra 'luxury car tax' was all set up by the Tories rule

[@davidmahan4160]

Isn't it based on the price of the vehicle. If vehicles are over £40k and a higher you pay more, not based on Co2 g/km emissions. This is stopping me from buying a new model as its gone from under 40K to over 40k. The vehicle I have now is £170 per annum, the new model kicks out the same level of Co2 /km but the VED is £580 per annum for years 2 till 6.

[@tonyharper5604]

We are going to resemble Cuba before too long, with loads of old cars being kept going…

[@chrishart8548]

Except we never kept the old cars so we will have nothing to maintain. Cars have been built to fail for a very long time

[@jerrytaylor146]

It is a stealth tax on people who like nice cars, it is nothing to do with emissions.

[@AtixG]

£600 is including the luxury car tax for 5 years, once that 5 years is over the standard tax will be £190 onwards going forward?...

[@japfourme381]

My Car Tax now costs me more than my Car Insurance, something I never thought I would see in my life!!

[@chrishart8548]

Same on my motorcycle £60 insurance £117 road tax. And £29.65 MOT

[@davidbrown2571]

Rip off.

[@leelee9788]

I lucky enough to own a few cars I usually keep taxed all year but I'll just tax or sorn every other month now so that's a lot more admin with less cash spent and that's just for me

[@alcord2540]

No,its the gov who do'nt have a clue.

[@freskimb3996]

Friend, does anything make sense in the UK right now?

[@Challengetheroad]

Not really crazy times

[@Thegowfer65]

It’s simply a wealth tax. They who can afford expensive cars get taxed more. Simples.

[@Hali88]

yes either a wealth tax or a stupidity tax or a bit of both

[@colingaskell9571]

Older cars are better than what is available new now

[@chrishart8548]

Not saying much new cars may as well be made by Timu they are absolutely shit all brittle plastic and unreliable cheap electronic parts.

[@tonyharper5604]

I think I am right in saying that the govt have never retrospectively altered VED. They only ever make adjustments to new cars going forwards, hence the bonkers situations you get where the same model with the same emissions is taxed differently because the govt moved the goalposts during the lifespan of the model e.g. Mk 5 Golf R32 where the earliest models are roughly half the price to tax as the later ones despite being no cleaner. With so many cars still on the roads straddling so many changes it is no wonder we are in such a mess. It also spans the period where diesel has gone from hero to villain and where hybrids and EVs have become mainstream. I really do feel that road pricing will be the way to make sense of the mess and at that point the older, theoretically dirtier cars, will end up paying the price. When you factor in ULEZ zones, which whilst superficially well-intentioned, seem to be at least as much about revenue generation as they do emissions, the madness these regulations creates makes so many of us question the credibility of the people making these decisions. If these politicians were brands, would we buy them?!? I don’t think so!

[@sissano1]

They're NOT wanting you to go electric, they're wanting you to GO ! great channel..

[@RichardFraser-y9t]

How tight is that tin foil hat?

[@Challengetheroad]

Thank you 🙏

[@davidgavin7280]

​@@RichardFraser-y9t at least he understands.

[@robmccaw9956]

Down here in NZ we have a small flat rate tax on petrol for road tax (supposedly goes to roading). Diesel is not taxed at the pump (so we dont have the expense of fuel inspectors etc like the UK) so we pay road user fees (RUC) at 7.6c/km for up to 3500kg vehicles and at an increasing fee as the weight increases. The new conservative govt has now introduced RUC for BEVs at the same rate as diesel. So now any petrol vehicke using less than 8L/100km pays less road tax than EVs. This has totally collapsed BEV sales here to the extent that some manufacturers have withdrawn from our smallish market while most others are not bringing their new models. It is also slowing down charger installions. The country is alreeady way, way behind in meeting its COP emission targets and this is not helping.

[@500bht]

Bonkers Britain £415 to tax my Mini Cooper s

[@chrishart8548]

Wow. My 2011 mondeo automatic estate is £210 not bad really. Could have got a 2015 one and paid £20. But it probably would have had more engine issues. And working on a Mk5 is almost impossible.

[@BigMick-t6u]

Net zero is nothing to do with it its about money it’s con

[@chrishart8548]

If you can afford it you can drive it. For someone with a millions this stuff means nothing.

[@Dalbayob69]

Take 2 cars for example Volvo XC70 and XC60. Both built on same platform, identical engines. One is estate car, the other one is SUV. With identical engines the emissions are the same but XC70 road tax is £360 while XC60 road tax is £600 something. Make that make sense. Nothing to do with emissions, just a money grabbing scheme to fill the coffers. Hard working people being taxed for the government’s neglect with public funds.

[@chrishart8548]

If its not emissions how do they come up with those prices. Looks like the XC60 has incurred the £40,000 + surcharge £190 + £410 would be £600 the XC70 must be earlier than 2017 otherwise it would be £190

[@grahamcollins3003]

This £40000 luxury car tax introduced in 2017 is so out of date. You can’t buy a luxury car new at £40000 these days.

[@chrishart8548]

even a Vauxhall Astra is over £40k now that proves the point.

[@Car-guy307]

Men are principally the buyers of these cars with ballooning road tax. This was an attack targeting men 😮😮😮

[@RD-qp3mu]

Its simple. Move the goalpost to catch the masses. Retrospective taxes are not popular.its not about the co2 more about whats in the taxmans coffers.

[@BarryMakariou]

They just signed death warrant for EVs

[@dps615]

How? Why? 1st year road tax is £10 for EV. Now compare this to a diesel or petrol BMW 3 series worth 40k or more when purchased new in 2025

[@chrishart8548]

​@@dps615correct. Even my Band F car was £33k in 2011. If new now would be £1360 first year then £600 because £40k plus. Its the death of ICE.

[@ScuuBdoo]

You have it easy there in the UK. 2022 RS4 £2100 (€2400) per year here in Ireland.

[@keyo525]

At least you get the 30 year classic car tax exemption- its 40 years here get hiked up from 25 fair few years back.

[@Challengetheroad]

That’s Crazy!

[@ScuuBdoo]

@@keyo525 True. Its 30 years here. I have a 1991 Pajero for camping trips. €56 a year.

[@Bigpawes2]

Hi Ricard, I had a 2014 Mercedes 220 saloon the tax was £30.00 per year due to low emissions I purchased a 2019 Mercedes 220 Coupe with the same engine and emissions as the 2014 car the tax £425.00 per year ???? Its a money making rip off.

[@Challengetheroad]

That’s just does not make sense!

[@Challengetheroad]

I am going to end up in a mental home soon 😆

[@adamrees3675]

The country has been contradicting before this road tax calculation bro

[@f1kwa399]

This is what happens when people without a clue try to run a country, I’ve read three different emails telling me what the new road tax changes will be and each one says that cars currently paying £190 will pay double, that’ll be a big 8:24 majority of cars on the road. I’m pretty sure they mean new cars at first registration, I hope so anyway but none of the messages I received actually said that.

[@chrishart8548]

Yes only first year has changed. It will basically form part of the list price really.

[@andrewhurstcars]

If you want to see a horror story, look up French car tax. Anything non-hybrid with a half-decent engine is into tens of thousands of euro of tax.

[@ConceptQuad2]

Car tax is one thing and they know what their doing, by bottle necking motorist into thinking alternatively, older cars maybe the cheaper option! But you’ve missed one crucial thing!! Car Insurance, they will soon penalise motorist working with the government, hiking up huge premiums on particular reg years!! Privileges are being wiped!! “YOU OWN NOTHING AND BE HAPPY”, is taking place now….

[@davidcook380]

Great Video and your ABSOLUTELY correct , Makes no sense .

[@xzippy9986]

I've got a 2015 Hyundai i30 1.6 crdi and never paid any tax for it, approx 56 mpg as well. Plan to keep it now.

[@jimmyjt16]

@@xzippy9986 yet the government say diesels are wrecking the planet, but only 10 years ago when your car was new they were so called planet savers (hence the free tax to encourage people to buy them). It’s the same as what they’re doing with EV’s now. It’s just one big scam.

[@chrishart8548]

You will start to pay after april 2025

[@fatbikemontage2931]

Luxury tax is not affected by the CO2 or power train. They introduced this at £40k in maybe 2017/18, but then didn’t raise the £40k by inflation. I remember telling the Volvo dealer that I was going for the Honda CR-V hybrid, as that was £38k new and not £41k as the XC60 was then. The big failing though is, if they want people to drive EV’s then they need to exempt them from this, or at least raise the £40k to something more meaningful.

[@lestersmyth692]

I suspect you’re overlooking the luxury Car tax rip off on anything over 40k until 6 years old.

[@chrishart8548]

Wondering if this is why we have all these pre reg Electric Cars

[@HamJumbo3]

2014 Seat Leon FR 184hp TDI identical car under the skin to a Mk7 Golf GTD Road tax is still £20.

[@500bht]

Yup my 2015 tt ultra is £20 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉win win but my 21 year old mini is £415 😂😂😂

[@69spook]

My 2016 polo diesel zero road tax...😂

[@lesliecowling2427]

That 40 G limit is a bit like fiscal drag and tax bands

[@jimmyjt16]

What annoys me is the luxury car tax. Every car over 6 year old will default to £190 so essentially you’ll soon be able to drive a 6 year old Lamborghini Urus or a Bentley and your tax is the same as someone who drives a VW Golf that was originally over 40k new.

[@waynemoore9951]

Exactly it's outrageous

[@TonyHammer61]

Where are you getting this £190 figure from? It is based on the CO2 emissions. I have a 7 year old Range Rover and the VED is £415

[@jimmyjt16]

@@TonyHammer61 all cars post 2018 that had a RRP of over 40k pay luxury car tax of £600 for the first 6 years and then revert to paying £190 a year. As your RR is 7 years old it’s on the old tax system.

[@Hali88]

@@TonyHammer61 67 plate cars onwards pay £190 per year regardless of CO2. If the list price was over £40k the £410luxury car tax is added on top, which is where the £600 figure comes from

[@mogsyman]

You’ve gone and done it now………..good old Reeves will watch your video (you know she will 🤣) and tax will rise on those that have slipped through the net! What is perfectly clear is Liebor don’t have a clue what they are doing and are making it up on the fly and it’s a total mess. How on earth can a new EV cost more to tax for years 2-5 than an older diesel chugging banger? I’ve got a GTS Taycan on lease currently and when that goes back I’m hopping straight into a 3 year old FFRR Autobiography V8 Diesel, sod this EV lark!

[@lestersmyth692]

Overall IMHO we’re heading towards a major recession as we’re all taxed to death either directly or indirectly unless you work for government or civil service (two tier tax…). Obviously our spending power is impacted thus we cut back and industry suffers and unemployment goes up……..who would have thought 🤔 yes we have thickos running the country 😂

[@Defaulted3]

May be generous to assume that the hikes in road tax are more than a cash grab. If you give benefit of doubt... It seems as though the proposed road tax structure is designed to incentivise staying with your older car rather than buying new, irrespective of how it's powered. What's the supply-chain-wide emission breakdown 2nd hand/existing vs building new? I think we know at this stage how costly to the environment making these batteries is. Perhaps the holistic scale tips in favour of 2nd, 3rd, 4th hand ICE? Someone smarter than I may know.

[@standfreeafc5219]

It stopped being about the environment and is simply a tax on wealth. If you can afford a new car, you can afford more tax. Change into a new car often and always pay the higher tax rate. If it was truely about air quality, then the miles you drive and the CO2 numbers for that vehicle need to be taken into account. My highbred commuter car creates more pollution per yer than the V8 weekend/fairweather toy due to miles driven but costs WAY less to tax. The only green thing is the cash being grabbed.

[@derekjohnson3445]

Diesel has to be new after March 2017 to be in the £190 band

[@billbrooks8990]

How does this work ??? Range Rover 5.0 svr 2018 tax £190 co2 294 Clio v6 2002 264 co2 £415 tax I’m sure they make it up as they go

[@chrishart8548]

They keep moving the goal posts. You either need to be 40 years + for cheap roed tax. Between that and 2001 you better be 1.5 litre or under. 2001-2017 the lower the Co2 the better. 2017-2025. £40k+ needs to be avoided but after 5 years have passed it's ok everything is £190 flat rate. From a 1.2 micra to a 6.3 litre merc. And in 2025 beware of 1st year road tax even on band F its £1360. Its an absolute farce. Also low emission cars with good performance are very unreliable. Vs simple cars with higher Co2

[@MrKlawUK]

if you remove luxury tax which is applicable to all car over 40k - then its 190 per year for every car since 2018 for second year onwards. First year is the only year that has a CO2 based bump - and that can be a decent wedge - high CO2 can be several thousand first year VED vs £10 for EV.

[@ianchalklen1047]

You’re not stupid Richard, the “system” is. Given that the average age of scrapping a car is 14 years, there is no recognition until the car is 40 years old that it has paid its dues in terms of the resources used to manufacture it.

[@MrKlawUK]

they have said they’ll look at luxury tax for EVs as they recognise they’re currently more expensive in general than ICE. Hopefully they’ll either waive it or bring in a higher threshold for EVs for the luxury tax

[@steffydog]

Ha ha ha, absolutely bonkers, standard Labour Fair tbh.

[@DavidA-h2r]

Hi ref ev’s my friend has a Mercedes out of warranty just been quoted £12,000!! for a new battery pack he tried trading it in nobody wants it and be ev sales are falling through the roof people are starting to see the true cost of an ev I will be sticking to my diesel discovery sport thanks Dave

[@kazhilly]

Hmm… in a way, I find your video quite reassuring… I just bought what I’m Hoping will be my Very Last car, a 2017 2.0 Diesel SUV with just 35000 miles on the clock. I don’t believe we are ready for electric yet, and EV’s come with all sorts of unexpected and Shockingly expensive repairs. And where tax is concerned, it seems I made the perfect choice. Thanks for wrecking your brain for that!!

[@chrishart8548]

Are you £190 flat rate or charged by emissions? 2017 is the year it changed. My mother in law has a 99kg/co but it 2017 if it was before April it would have paid £0. Its £190 flat rate unfortunately.

[@kazhilly]

@ my car is from January 2017, and yes, £190 flat rate.

[@Strider9655]

People would save a lot of money if they stopped paying a tax that doesn't exist.

[@Bigpawes2]

Hello again Richard, on the comment I made on the 2014 and 2019 Mercedes 220D tax difference, I forgot to mention my son lives in London and due to ULES charges we cannot take the newer Mercedes into London when visiting, without being charged each day even though the Mercedes is a Euro 6 registered compliant engine printed on its V5 log book regarding its low emissions It is not on the list of accepted vehicles on the London ULES web site when we type in its registration and model the Mercedes come back void. My Range Rover Vouge also ULES compliant somehow is accepted for ULES even though the R/Rover has an higher emission value on the its V5 Log book than the Mercedes ???? Both Car are Euro 6 which is should be acceptable for non charges??? So you think you might be going mad joint the club.

[@Momemtum99]

Will the budget affect high co2 older cars I’m still not clear on this it reads that any car over 90kg co2 the car tax will double do they mean on new cars or willl my old 5l go to £1500 per year?!

[@Sp_75-76]

Does the 605.00 include the luxury car tax?

[@Challengetheroad]

Hi, I added a pinned post in the extra

[@mikadavies660]

What hasn't been talked about too much is the crazy stealth tax on company pick-up trucks. Not only with tax but with benefit -in-kind.

[@chrishart8548]

If they have already been ordered it wont effect them. It will only be the new ones ordered after a certain date. It just means people simply wont order them anymore. I think the tax is literally £1400 a month for some drivers in the higher tax bracket. It simply means they are no longer an option.

[@robloudon8124]

Not quite the same standard but - 2015 qashqai 1.6 diesel is £35 road tax. From time when diesel was what we told to buy!!!!

[@Challengetheroad]

That’s so Cheap!

[@jimmyjt16]

@@robloudon8124 yes only 10 years ago diesels were encouraged and Now they’re hated for apparently killing the planet! What’s changed in that time? It’s just one big scam to keep us buying new.

[@NigelsModellingBench]

Your X5 is only £600 for the first five years you pay RFL. After that it'll be £190. Or.. drive my 2014 Passat 2.0tdi executive, fully loaded and it costs £35 a year.

[@johnnorthwood]

When I part ex my Mercedes in 2022 to a new C200 AMG EQ my Road tax was over £500 PA because the car was over £30k, where my previous Mercedes a C300 AMG which was full petrol but second hand was less than £30k when I purchased and was £120. My understanding is Road tax is bizarrely calculated on car price and not emissions, but it doesn’t come down as the car gets older and cheaper! 🤷‍♂️

[@oneeleven9832]

I’ve got a 2017 McLaren 570gt twin turbo V8..cost me £165 to tax it for 12 months 🤷‍♂️…think it was because it was over 6yrs old..

[@Challengetheroad]

That’s so cheap!

[@TA7CH]

I have heard the extra money for cars over 40k they would up the threshold for EV

[@slimjim2526]

Apparently my 2023 Ev Maxus van going to the same as a diesel van ? I can’t find anything conclusive

[@michaelr4573]

Richard, you have highlighted that life is unfair. Basically, buy a secondhand particular car first registered just prior to April 2017 that best matches the tax sweetspot. Or buy a Taycan registered prior to April 2025 ? that will avoid the luxury car tax supplement upto the end of year six. I went with the first option but time catches up with all older cars eventually.

[@sissano1]

Research and Find the best SUV from 2000 to 2020 , mpg , emissions tax etc , it will be a great episode...and make them longer please.. best regards

[@MrC2958]

Im lost. Bought a new 8Y RS3 last year,just TAXed it now for £600. So am I looking at £730 next year?

[@davidellis8141]

I hope that my tax won’t be £190 as I only pay for low emission diesel £20 a year.

[@AlanS1325]

My understanding is the EV luxury tax is NOT back dated meaning any EV pre 1st April 2025 is £190 for road tax

[@matchew321]

I thought the same but cannot find anything from the gov website that backs that up. They are only stating what a new one will cost after 1st April 25

[@Challengetheroad]

Hi Alan, it does not read that way on the website, I can attach for you

[@robertbate2991]

Luxury tax has to be paid for 5 years from new even if you buy the car 2nd hand.

[@AlanS1325]

@@Challengetheroadhi hope this helps below is a copy taken from www.gov.uk/guidance/vehicle-tax-for-electric-and-low-emissions-vehicles Additional rate (expensive car supplement) For new electric vehicles with a list price exceeding £40,000, you will now need to pay the expensive car supplement from the second tax payment onwards. This applies to vehicles registered on or after 1 April 2025.

[@Challengetheroad]

Hi Alan, I was using car buyer website and it seems they are incorrect and the wording is different to here and you are correct. I may get a Secondhand ev now!

[@nedywest71]

Why looking and judging on only one part of what Road Tax is formulated? Emissions are the primary but you still have power, weight and bunch of other parameters to consider.

[@mrpipspoppersv9093]

they will probably change things later when they realise they are wrong.

[@chrishart8548]

And charge even more probably

[@bye-72]

Has car tax on vans gone up. I think I paid £320 last year.

[@nicholasturner4552]

I've got a 2008 Suzuki Vitara with a 1,6 petrol engine £415 road tax Crazy

[@f35500]

Bouns! Yes I already think 2015-17 is a sweet spot for the cars spec anyway cheap tax a bonus too The posh car surcharge make all new premium cars dear to tax for the first 5 years! But yes it still think it’s bonkers, all the historic different road tax systems can’t be aligned, Pre 2001 are quite expensive to tax now

[@magentadawn5660]

A 2017 BMW X5 M50D is only £190 to tax - never mind the 2.0 litre! 😊

[@Challengetheroad]

I saw that on there!

[@stever656]

The government also said they will look at luxury car tax and ved bands at next fiscal event which will probably be spring mini budget so will probably move things around

[@Challengetheroad]

I think so too

[@phillingham5912]

It's an old car, there shouldn't be much tax

[@nicholaswilliams4532]

Your fundamental mistake is to search for joined up thinking and logic in a morass of politician think

[@Challengetheroad]

I know 🤣

[@mjsmith8741]

Cars costing over £40k when new get hammered an extra £500 road tax for 4 years no matter how much you paid for it below £40k

[@tonykelpie]

It is a muddle and hopefully will be refined in future budgets

[@Challengetheroad]

It is strange to raise it so much in the 40k plus EVs it’s a heavy tax

[@MoJoAssets]

Why I’ll never sell my 2015 4.2V8 Cayenne Diesel S. Such value!

[@Pete68T]

Its Cheaper to buy and run an older car with cheaper tax then as you say ,Than spend any money on new cars,That is better as less wast building new things and the government will loose billions if we all did this over 10 years. Road Tax Should be just one Cost not all the ones there are just the same apart from EV which should be free if they want to get you to buy one.

[@keyo525]

My mates got an Audi a4 avant tdi 4 cylinder around 2013 ,I think he said it was only £35 a year or so. I own a 997 and a mk4 golf r32 and ulez says no you are above the nox level and will be charged- so i got the COC off Porsche and VW and low and behold it confirmed my car was below the nox level so they are now exempt after I sent the evidence to ULEZ. My youngest car is 20 years old, came off the car depreciation band wagon a good 10 years back. My largest concern is with the huge depreciation and scary running cost of out of warranty electric cars that folks will wisen and will not purchase them- they will then try and force us by firstly banning diesel then petrol. on our roads.

[@davidellis8141]

Then it will be time to sorn the car and hope the next government will reverse much of the rubbish this one is bringing in. I have a garage where I can store my diesel.

[@chrishart8548]

I dont think they will ever ban petrol or diesel cars. They will increase insurance, road tax. And make more low emissions zones where we wont be allowed to drive them. And one more people are in EV's they may push the price of fuel up. And over time petrol stations will close. It will never be a ban just an inconvenience. Also spares will be almost impossible to come by. Also petrol and diesel cars are very unreliable they will all be un economical to fix by 2050.

[@ginger_monkeey]

Push to electric is now old news. Government will tax to maximize their revenue. Pay per mile will be the next iteration of road tax.

[@sidrens5292]

If I have £21,000 cash to spend on a used car. Do I buy a Cupra Born electric or a Toyota GR Sport hybrid 2022 plate with similar mileage (15,000).

[@Challengetheroad]

GR Yaris! Rally car

[@sidrens5292]

@ no it’s the hybrid GR Sport - not the GR sadly 😊

[@Challengetheroad]

I know get the rally one 😆🙌

[@DavidA-h2r]

Buy a classic Ford capri 2.8injection no tax cheap to run great fun

[@sidrens5292]

@ 🤣 I’m not that old

[@derekr1113]

If buying a car was solely in the taxation, he might be right. He is deluded with his hybrid. It is a petrol car with assistance - he said he is being really thick - yes.

[@richardpearson6329]

Keep quiet about the £190 car tax, I don't want the Government charging me more tax😂😂

[@GoFlyYourself]

They don't want the common person to own a car. Personal transport is too much freedom. 😉

[@g9icy]

I’m confused. The luxury car tax was introduced by the tories years ago? Why are you talking about it like Labour just introduced it?

[@-sargntclashroyaleandmore-491]

Net Zero makes 0 sense

[@DavidA-h2r]

Hi all my take on this is if you buy an ev new don’t expect to sell it battery life ect ect built to last seven years then scrap them nobody wants secondhand ev,s even the dealers

[@Challengetheroad]

Hi David, It’s seems that way

[@chrishart8548]

How do they build a battery to last 7 years ?

[@DavidA-h2r]

Hi I am going on my experience with a Mitsubishi hybrid car I owned for a short period of time was told at purchase secondhand average 7 years but each battery cell could be changed separately was told to expect 30 miles on ev only got 18 miles !!! Thanks Dave

[@chrishart8548]

@DavidA-h2r hybrids are worrying with there battery. With my EV I religiously stay between 20% and 80%. I don't know if a hybrid can be set to do this but I imagine it would only give around 9 miles of electric range. Most EV's with proper battery heating and cooling are lasting really well the degradation is hardly anything.

[@jonathandilk5722]

What a long winded video to arrive back at where you started 190 or 600 really

[@martinarnott4058]

EV'S definitely won't be around much longer then as there wont be any manufacturers to make the fucking things 😂.

[@martinarnott4058]

They don't want anymore cars on the road the only way they can stop peaple buying new cars is to put the rd tax up as nobody's buying ev's so it's like a massive punishment for everyone. more peaple going to be driving with no rd tax .😂