we picked our sperm donor

[@Oneness298]

team cammie on the hair washing. it’s respectful to your wife in your marriage

[@eraofalchemy]

Nothing to do with respect--love doesn't ask someone to change! It's controlling!

[@wlev123]

Ocean water is not pool water lol.there are all sorts of phytoplankton and zooplankton in the ocean, like a few days not a big deal but 7 could be like a biology experiment in there.

[@Carriehammer718]

​@@eraofalchemy It affects your partner unless you don't want her touching you. I would not want the germs. I also hate when people bring their phone in the bathroom. So gross.

[@sofrib]

team cammie on the hygiene debate 🫡 couldn't imagine not washing my hair after jumping in the ocean or the pool istg

[@sofrib]

also just had the time to finish watching the episode and i'm so happy for you! congratulations!!! grateful that you allow us into some part of this very important journey! 🤍

[@eraofalchemy]

if YOU can't imagine it then YOU can wash your hair! Asking someone to change for you and wanting control over their body isn't ever okay. It's manipulative and unhealthy!

[@sadgalbadgal]

lol im team cammie on the hygiene topic. all that crunchy sand up in your scalp. also curly hair tip, im a hair stylist. cammie was right about leaving your curls soaking wet. you should also only comb them when wet with a wide tooth comb preferably. scrunch your hair with a microfiber towel or a t shirt, add product if you want and scrunch again , diffuse if you want some big ass hair. xo love you guys

[@stayinguppod]

well well well the PP's have spoken!! -c

[@nathaliamatias2637]

Team cammie on the hair washing! can't imagine being TWO days without washing my hair.... five??? no way

[@wildestdreams_]

cammie wanting to have bébé when she already has one

[@madaleeX]

I’m on cammies side with washing hair at the beach

[@glorynwaiser3486]

Really regretting eating dinner while watching the first part of this video

[@Carriehammer718]

I'm just confused by taryns lack of hygiene when she has health anxiety.

[@mjohanna96]

Omg the hygiene debate makes me feel so seen. I’m the one who really harps on clean hair and it causes friction 😂😂 love you guys

[@stayinguppod]

i can't help it! i feel so strongly about it hahaha -C

[@skyylovespace]

*3:33** *as a Black woman with curly hair, we can easily go months without washing our hair (when it’s in protective styles) and it isn’t considered dirty. even when it’s curly, one - two weeks is normal for us. i can’t speak for Taryn’s hair, but it is on her head, so maybe let her do her thing* 😅 *edit: wait, it just registered to me that this isn’t a conversation of how often you wash your hair; it’s the fact that it was dirty from ocean water… nevermind Taryn, wash that hair girl lol*

[@christidnl]

Team taryn on this I think the once a year beach hair is a must lol

[@SadieLadie44]

This is so incredibly special. Thank you so much for being so willing to share and bringing the exact like guidance and representation in this area. I am so thankful this exists.

[@lydiam.7043]

The hair washing debate is not about hair washing the way I see it. It's about giving space to someone to be themselves even if that is a little bit 'disgusting' in our society. It is about power dynamics between a relationship and how you can co-exist with someone while still feeling that you can be your self authentically. And yes it can get down to something as silly as hair washing once a year. I am so happy that Cammie was able to let this go truly! This is huge and in Taryn's place I'd feel seen. Truly sorry if I made anyone feel upset not my intention but because I see a lot of people just choosing between the two, by listening to you two speaking about this I felt that was not the real debate. Maybe I am wrong though obviously and in that case again I apologise to you guys if you happen to read this 🤍

[@VSandTaylorSwiftLove]

I agree with you!

[@saramarie3481]

Team cammie on the hair washing!

[@farronstrob]

13:25 “It’s okAY” is a smosh reference and i find it so cute that y’all also say this omg. me and my mom started watching y’all from the recent Reddit stories you were on, we love y’all

[@amandamarie1256]

Team Taryn on the hair

[@MarynCall]

YESSSS I'M SO EXCITED FOR YOU BOTH 🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻💕💕💕

[@stayinguppod]

thank you!! 🥹

[@amandafarrington967]

congrats guys!! also - I support Taryn in the hair washing debate! I am someone who loves being clean & struggle with partners having dirty hair, but I can see that Taryn really just wants the freedom of being a little beach rat when on vacation. It's not often, and it's not like she's a dirty person at her baseline. As long as she respects Cammie's physical boundaries later in the week, I don't see the issue :)

[@chardonnay5249]

I really appreciate the two of you talking about this, honestly i used to have a lot of angst about being a lesbian and not being able to have children the traditional way without compromising who I am, but this makes me feel not only better but excited about someday embarking on this journey with someone I love. It sounds like you will both be amazing parents from how deeply you’re thinking about your kids already ❤

[@gilmoregirls1606]

I’ve been having a huge health anxiety spin and you guys posted it at the perfect time to distract me with your amazing news ❤️❤️❤️

[@sofiabessette7025]

not me pacing myself and learning self control by only watching a few minutes of this epi veryday... it's honestly a reward ("it's like a reward") it truly is honestly helping me be more patient for the next epi LMFAO. i fear i need one every single day of the week with how much i love you two. huge congrats

[@yvves414]

yikes. i feel the same way about clean hair. i guess communication regarding the hygiene; yet, i feel what taryn is saying also! hm, that is a tough one for me. you two are working it out regardless. ❤ also, it does not matter what the public thinks, this is between you two. it is your relationship.

[@jordanborselli7252]

Taryn, i too am a beach rat that prefers a crunchy hair mermaid moments oops

[@csc677]

Definitely on the side of Taryn:)

[@brooke6919]

Your chat about the guides was so interesting, would you share more about it?

[@giuliamoscoso665]

so happy for you guysssss!! thx for sharing ur journey with us

[@susanthrice2459]

Congrats on this important milestone! Also, you’re both so glowy from beach time I’m jealous

[@SadieLadie44]

This episode going from debates about being a beach rat (Taryn, I agree that packing shampoo is almost the worst part and that beach hair is chill) to validating sperm (ps congrats) was just top tier. This is what we come here for.

[@SamantasinH]

Reading through the comments, all i think is: It's just once in a year, its not that Taryn lacks hygiene, c'mon people 😂

[@KateRusso-od5cr]

Coming from a curly haired person it’s totally normal not to wash your hair for like a week makes those curls luscious 😊Now if at the beach the salt is super drying so that is probably what Cammie is feeling when the crunch happens. Personally I would wash it after every day but that’s me. I was more curious about the pooping situation. You all don’t do that?? lol my partner and I have hangs in the bathroom lol 😅

[@kros9]

Can you give Donna’s info please? That sounds so cool and helpful!

[@janopilotto]

So happy for you two, i'm getting excited just to be able to be "part" of this process from the beginning, thank you for sharing this being so personal. I'm a trans guy and this information helps more than you imagine. PS: voting for Cammie about the hair discussion lol. I wash my hair every single day but that's not good

[@alinakolousowa]

I'm on Cam's team But not because I think it's that gross. I personally just would not want my partner to feel grossed out by me ever and would do anything in my power to avoid it I totally get Taryn's side tho about just wanting to be free and do whatever the hell you want, or just this little thing. But, the feeling of that freedom would be tainted for me, knowing that my partner doesn't like some part of me in that moment, and I could've prevented it. But I also think that it's healthier that Taryn is comfortable with the whole thing, shows her that she's confident in herself and in the relationship. So she's really better than me in this one.

[@christelaquino8243]

fr! We hear Taryn but partners should be considerate of hygiene requests specially when they sleep next to each other, team cammie on this one.

[@jeanmac743]

Team Cammie for sure..

[@anastasiyavlasyuk49]

I'm on Taryn's side! Her body. Plus it's not like she does it all the time. Let her live out her vacation how she wants to! I'm huge on hygiene, but wouldn't be so upset about my partner doing this, I would just want them to be the happiest they can be!

[@Carriehammer718]

Not if your partner touches it. Be kind to them too.

[@EmmaShute]

Taryn wash your hair bro. It ain’t that big.

[@xmeiyux]

SO HAPPY FOR YOU GUYS

[@monniemccracken8716]

I have the same issue, curly hair is much better when you leave it wet and maybe use moroccan oil curly hair after and its great every time!

[@Malluu9]

I literally started crying when you mentioned the 33 second voice memo

[@rachelizabeth_]

you guys are so cute i love watching you, genuinely so real and wholesome

[@nataliaparias9208]

Congraaaaats!!!!! 🪅🪅🪅

[@jeanmac743]

Excited for you!!!

[@amandawakaoyao]

😂😂😂 cammie is so grossed out. 5 days is a little too much imo. My ex would do 7 days and I can smell it when she walk pass me.

[@emmyvids101]

love this pod!! thanks for the deep dive into this experience:) Q: do you have friends that have adopted? i’d love to hear about that experience

[@Anouddw]

yay!!!! so exited for you guys!!!

[@mogill7279]

So I’m one of the OGs from waaaayyyy back…the nose picking brings back Rose and Rosie content

[@yky01]

yay new episode!! Thxxx love you both !! 🫂🫂

[@PuffyFairyAmbience]

Does Donna have a website or anything? Id love to look into that

[@Aaaa-tf4ub]

Team cammie all the way

[@jomarie47]

I’m totally team Cammie with the washing hair and pooping topic but team Taryn with the nose picking lol

[@pjvk17]

did cam say i can’t wait to meet our little son? i’m confused can they pick/have they decided on that

[@Carriehammer718]

Why would you be ok with your partner not touching on for a week, especially on vacation.

[@wooodstock]

Maybe a compromising situation could be to be private with higene. Like only pick your nose in the bathroom, use a little tissue, wash your hands, poop , exfoliate do watever you need to do in private. Keep your body regularly clean and thats all (except during the hair washing vacation week of course). Thats how they teach kids, to do higiene and fluids all private and regular, so hopefully when they're adults they'll finally get it right lolll. To be respectful and also free from dead cells. Also why copy that dudes bad behavior? Would you jump from a bridge if he does hahaha . Please cam go teach him a thing or two

[@Carriehammer718]

This

[@marebearx0]

What is the guides information?

[@madaleeX]

Will you share your babies/ kids on social media once you have them?

[@courtneykril225]

I would love if you included Donna’s info!

[@jac5527]

The toe thing literally doesn’t compare to all of those disgusting habits…..

[@nvnb07]

Cammie right Taryn wrong lol

[@CarolynLamma-lf1hh]

Who wants to be with someone who has dirty hair. Team Cammie. I’m a clean freak

[@CitanulsPumpkin]

Sperm donor brother situation: "Oh no, stepbrother! My wife got stuck in a washing machine!" UwU It's usually not incest, but it can invoke the same kind of ick. Bestie sperm donor situation: Your kid has an "uncle" who bigots and most law enforcement will look at as if he were the "real" parent. It can work, but boundaries need to be set before he does anything that fills up a plastic cup.

[@alexisrenko7565]

Can we get Donna's info?!

[@sarahtee5422]

congrats!

[@acarie14]

Are you guys choosing to have a boy? Jw since Cammie said I can’t wait to meet our son

[@JuliMaria]

Team taryn for me

[@emilytowns2243]

Thanks for sharing. Just out of interest, how do you know you will have a son rather than a daughter? no shade, just curious.

[@brinabridget]

Today am the first here 🤭🤭🥰🥰 Happy pride #stayingUp

[@stayinguppod]

happy pride!!!!!!

[@kazzy1990]

I stand by Taryn and her right to have dirty hair. 🤘

[@GinaPaolaBeltran]

wait, you went into the ocean and didn't wash your hair after that and for 5 more days??? Tarynnnnnnn, that's horrible for your hair and scalp😭 wash it right after and then you can go off how many days you wish, but always rinse the ocean or pool water.

[@lattefemmee]

taryn’s acting like a damn teenage boy fr, just wash the hair and stay clean. you’re a grown woman.

[@Happy-your1]

They won’t be together long .. there too different ..

[@eraofalchemy]

The hygiene convo gave me the ick--sorry cam, but you don't get a say in that! That isn't your place! And shame isn't effective in getting someone to change! It's not "love" to ask that your partner change for you or behave differently and for there to be a with-drawl of affection if they're not behaving in the way you want. Big no. How about lead with curiosity and compassion? And maybe look into yourself to see why it's so important for you to have a partner who is "clean" because it sounds like it's an insecurity coming from within you perhaps.

[@natalieb13]

literally had tears of joy and frantically texted my gf when i saw the title of this eppy 🥹😅 so happy for you guys and thank you for being so transparent with this process so it’s not so scary for me in the future ❤️ (also side note: cammie is lookin so strong like okay arms ??👀💪🏼)

[@Happy-your1]

They won’t be together long .. there too different ..

[@emmyvids101]

don’t be rude u are not them. also it’s they’re* not there so 🤭