We Picked The Best Office Chair For Back Pain at EVERY Price

[@CHEEBnRUN]

After watching your videos for months, I bought a custom Fern last week. Seems to be the best chair for me. Thanks for all the info and honest opinions you've shared over the last few months ( and years). Your tier list videos were an invaluable tool in my decision making process.

[@Dreforian]

Just got the Colamy Atlas. I'm 6'6". The chair is good for the upper body, though I never felt fully relaxed in it, even with the head rest. Maybe not enough "give". However the curve in the back and my body size meant that the lumbar support actually didn't do much. It was there, but not really "pokey". Just very shallow. The much bigger problems with the chair for someone my size were 1) the seat; despite the much-storied length adjustment, it still only got to about 2/3 of my thigh length. Can't slouch in this at all or your cheeks will be the only part touching the seat. 2) the arms. they were neither long enough, nor steady enough. The adjustment options sound great and look adequate in 3 seconds of footage, but practically, I can't get them to sit still, so they shift around with any kind of motion under the pressure of body weight. Don't grip them while standing up. They CAN be adjusted to at least support your arms when sitting up straight, and using a keyboard in your lap or medium desk height, but they are almost useless when reclining. I would have gladly traded the deeper recline settings for longer seat or sturdier armrests. TLDR: There's being tall via being long-bodied, long-legged, or both. The Colamy Atlas works well (in the back department) for any sort of long-bodied person. It falls short (literally) for long-legged tall people. PS: And the arms are either suffering from quality control, or they are just bad. The Atlas incorporates amazing adjustment *options* *for the price* but it doesn't execute those options well enough to justify them

[@ori-yorudan]

Last week I picked up 2 brand new Steelcase Leap V2's for $25 each off facebook market place from an office that was being dissolved. I've probably used up my luck for a while. Loving the chair for my daily use and home office though!

[@mikewu3103]

yea me too, i bought the Herman miller Logitech Embody for 3$ dollars

[@davidgafo]

​@@mikewu3103too pricey

[@Mullerchiropractic]

I'm curious, which chair has the best seat cushion? Piriformis syndrome is something I see in my office all time, and this is due in large part to the seat cushion either never having been distributive enough before bottoming out or breaks down within a year of daily office use (8+ hours per day). However, I noticed this feature was never mentioned in all the reviews. I agree the back rest and lumbar support is important, but I'd argue that the seat cushion is equally important. What are your thoughts on seat cushion quality, comfort and longevity at each price point?

[@camgeiger]

Currently sitting in my Leap V2 refurbished from BTOD, gotta say, I'm impressed with how good the chair is. There isn't anything exciting about it, it's just a good feeling chair that works well! Used the Black Friday 10%, thanks for that, and it ever arrived 2 days early to Florida, NICE! Thanks guys for all the great content you produce out, and I look forward to the live stream Monday! Hope you had a happy Thanksgiving!

[@AP-te6mk]

Sitting in a Radano office chair right now. Literally the most supportive office chair i've ever sat in. The lumbar support is a godsend.

[@thearkhostxbone2889]

What color/material combo is that blue/white zody? can't seem to find it anywhere?

[@jmag22]

I’m 511 230, budget is 700 -800 and I’ve been watching videos for like a month and still can’t decide. I think I spend at least 10 hrs a day in a chair and have low back pain. Looking for any guidance. I wish I could afford a Fern it looks so cool and seems to be the best …

[@WolfOfJustice]

Fern is one of the best for sure, but you can always go for a Zody if you want something more affordable.

[@veebreezeofficial3879]

You guys should review Anthros....

[@realshmoothie]

Hey, I feel like I'm dying in my leap v2. My lower back is constantly tensing and spasming up in it. Way too aggressive lumbar. What chairs best allow you to fit in your own comfortable position with less aggressive lumbar? I'm 5'7" 165

[@btodtv]

Did you remove the height adjustable lumbar? -Greg

[@realshmoothie]

@@btodtv Hey Greg, yes I did. I also set the minimum lower back pressure. It is certainly better but I just think I have a pretty flat natural curve and am short. So need something more suited to that!

[@CloudMountainJuror]

Does the Colamy Kirin have tilt tension adjustment? I’ve looked around your reviews and online and can’t seem to find a clear answer to this yet - it doesn’t look like there’s a tension knob on it, unless I’m missing it?

[@btodtv]

Yes it does have it. -Ryan

[@CloudMountainJuror]

@@btodtv Thank you!

[@TruthNTime]

Just curious, did you get the Colamy Kirin? I'm ready to pull the trigger and get one, just looking for another outside opinion.

[@shoutingstone]

Be aware that if you're in the UK or EU and looking for a Fern it DOESN'T come with the upholstered digital knit backrest with no option to add it. The only option available is the Mesh back which looks awful (like stockings stretched over a DVD rack). I've spoken to a rep who confirmed they have no plans to offer the upholstered back in the EU/UK market either. I imagine this alone would knock it out of its S Tier spot so would be great if you could mention that when you do future roundups for us non yanks :)

[@Naaylor]

Just ordered the Zody for £314. I hope it is actually good

[@JosephReference]

love the banther just enough,

[@JuanAM-]

Hello, was wondering if anyone could help out. I've been indecisive on which chair to pick under 200. It's between the Ticova and Colamy Kirin. Which one do you think is better overall in terms of build and seat comfort? Or if anybody has any other recommendation under 200, I would appreciate it as well.

[@Jaylovesmoke]

Ticova seat is horrible , I felt the bottom 8 hours in and had to order a gel seat cushion the next day . Also took out the plastic back support it was digging in the back . I was sick of buying cheap chairs, so I ordered an ameap from btod $400 and wow no more seat and back pain. I love this chair and would recommend over anything new at this price.

[@JuanAM-]

@@Jaylovesmoke I see, thank you. I guess I'm going with the Colamy Kirin.

[@damaylaphoenix1155]

i brought the sihoo m18 . 135 bucks and lifetime warranty. have not try it yet !

[@toshatier215]

Got the Kirin and i totally dislike back support. It can be ok if you sit straight, but if you move a bit down digs into your back.. also if you are a taller guy, backrest might feel a bit short.

[@001Youngcat]

Would you consider doing a review on 2 Canadian brand chairs, namely the Global G20, and the Allsesting YouToo chair?

[@Physiker17]

I am also dealing with back pain and since not all of the chairs in your list are available in Europe, let me ask you something. I am looking for an office chair for home, where I don't sit 8 hours a day, budget around €500. So I stumbled upon the Herman Miller Verus going now for €545, but then I saw Haworth Zody on sale for €650 (black version), which I feel is a great deal. I am 177cm (5ft10) and do not wish for a very strong lumbar support, also prefer mesh chairs. What do you all think?

[@sirdiff1]

Same situation here. The only one I've ever tried is a Mirra 2 and I loved it but it's way too expensive in my opinion. Finding good picks in Europe is hard, on Amazon it's even harder. I'm considering the same options as you, the 650€ offer (which runs out today) feels the best to me. There's also a 850€ Fern option which looks great (compared to usual top of the line prices) even tho it's a bit higher in budget

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

Go for the Zody guys, it's a great chair and right up there with the Mirra 2.

[@sirdiff1]

@@StardustLegacyFighter bought it this afternoon!

[@Physiker17]

@@sirdiff1 I got mine 10 days ago, to be honest at first I was sceptical but then I was impressed. A very high quality chair!

[@sirdiff1]

@@Physiker17 I got it and have been using it. Great feel and build quality, I can only complain about two things: the plastic levers on the right wiggle a lot, the feel is not that premium (as opposed to the rest of the chair), but I don't use them often and they're not breaking. Second thing is I'm not heavy enough so it's a bit too stiff to recline, even on the lowest stiffness. Can't complain about anything else tbh, good chair for anybody weighing more than 65/70kgs i'd say

[@fighteroc1]

How does the Colamy Atlas compare to the Ameap?

[@catalin0504]

What are your thoughts on the new Ergohuman 2023 Project?

[@user-lb1yq2xy9g]

Thank you, BTOD. I have lower back pain, and following your video, I purchased Zody II on Black Friday. Currently, I'm very satisfied with it in every aspect, and for me it is more comfortable than my gaming embody. The lumbar support on my gaming Embody doesn't fit my body and isn't adjustable, and its armrests also can't move forward or backward. I feel uncomfortable on this chair. Because of its lack of adjustability, the Embody may not be suitable for many people, especially those with lower back pain who need more lumbar support adjustment. It was very correct of the video not to recommend the Embody but to recommend the Fern instead. I've tried the Fern in the store, and it offers excellent support and comfort, but I chose the Zody II as the Fern was too expensive.

[@chrisgo2379]

For how much did you pick up the Zody II?

[@user-lb1yq2xy9g]

@@chrisgo2379 835 include tax

[@Jason-dr6se]

I'd like to see cushioned Manager's chairs Big and tall, Something on the more squishy soft side then the workers chair.

[@Dandubin]

Hi guys! Given the choice, would you choose the Clatina Mellet or the Colamy Kirin?

[@damaylaphoenix1155]

sihoo m18

[@pe1ucas]

How long are you sessions testing the chairs? Any insights on heat build up on the seat? What type of seat would you say it's the best on staying cool?

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

Mesh would definitely the best for temperature regulation, making it perfect for areas with warm climates.

[@kmah324]

Hello. Are you willing to make a video on chairs from other brands from Japan like Okamura, Itoki, etc? I believe that you guys said that the Contessa chair was overrated but other than saying that it was uncomfortable, there wasn't an explanation as to why that specific chair was uncomfortable. I am also interested if the criticisms towards the Contessa holds true for the other chairs/variants of the same chair in their product line.

[@samjeon3503]

With Black friday sale, Embody was $1300 and Fern with digital mesh and some other add ons was $1450. Went with cheaper Embody hopefully I like it

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

Usually the Fern is always less expensive than the Embody, what add-ons did you look at?

[@snxwedits]

What would you recommend getting for people with scoliosis thats not too expensive?

[@formulaic78]

How do you know if you have that? I bought the embody and seem to be in the minority of finding it hurts my back. This has made me more sensitive to my posture. I noticed that when I sleep my back is generally twisted (side-front sleeper) so I wonder if this has caused scoliosis or some other defect. My main issue seems to be that my back doesn't like chairs with pronounced S curves, which are my gaming embody and a particular coach seat I ride home in once a week for an hour that no one except me complains about. My bank doesn't seem to like anything pushing into the middle of my back for long periods.

[@snxwedits]

​@@formulaic78 I figured out by taking tests at hospitals via x-ray's etc. How noticable depends on the area of ur scoliosis and how much degree roughness ur scoliosis is, I have a little bit on the top and a lot on the bottom, so my spine is curved to the side on some parts like around 25-30 degrees, if you have a slight hunchback or something you most likely have scoliosis, I recommend you to ask your doctor about it if you have a lot of back pain and if it bothers you a lot. If you want a fast answer to see if you have scoliosis, you could try to take a picture of ur back when ur leaning forwards and try to see ur spine if you can, you can also try to trace ur back spine with ur finger or have someone do it for you, but I at least got to know via the hospital.

[@toshatier215]

Got the Kirin and i totally dislike back support. It can be ok if you sit straight, but if you move a bit down it digs into your back in any position.. also if you are a taller guy, backrest might feel a bit short.

[@btodtv]

Robert really enjoys this at 6'2". I'd be concerned with fit and comfort slouching in any chair. They are designed to sit upright for best results. As always though, this just might not be the right chair for you -Greg

[@toshatier215]

@@btodtv I really like Kirin seat though. It’s soft and spacey so can sit with yoga crossed-legs. I wish it had more settings on back support.

[@manuelcasado43]

Would you guys be up to trying the hinomi x1?

[@heroteen16]

What chair does anyone recommend for a lot of reclining? I spend a lot of down time playing games while reclining on my chair, but my chair is pretty terrible at keeping my lower back from hurting.

[@dotnetdevni]

currently suffering from a slipt disc have a secret labs chair but need something more otherpdedic

[@Ali-in8xi]

You guys are awesome! So much useful information! Truly, thank you.

[@OfficialEthern1ty]

No asus destrier ?

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

It's $900, and apparently there are far better chairs available at its price point.

[@OfficialEthern1ty]

@@StardustLegacyFighter couldn't find in the UK something better for the price tbh. (where it 900 usd incl. 20% tax)

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

​@@OfficialEthern1tyWell, the Sayl is actually cheaper, and if you manage to get the Mirra 2 or Zody on special offer, then those would also be cheaper. Besides, I would never buy or recommend a chair that only comes with a 1 year warranty, whereas the competition gives you 12 years (24/7 use).

[@OfficialEthern1ty]

@@StardustLegacyFighter Asus gives 3 years (at least where I live)

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

​@@OfficialEthern1tyAlbeit it's better than what they offer in other regions, but still nowhere near as good as competition. They should offer a minimum of 5 years warranty imo.

[@meRyanP]

Sitting in a gaming embody and while it has cleared up some back issues, it's made other worse. Thinking of returning but I am split between the Fern and Lamia

[@rundown132]

Yeah the foam on it kinda makes you sink into the seat

[@formulaic78]

I had no back issues until I bought a gaming embody. I've since found it pretty uncomfortable. Can't return it though so I'll be interested to see if I adapt to it within a year. Currently at around a month and have a blanket draped over the back cos find the back too hard, especially when reclining.

[@iyaramonk]

Has Steelcase seen your Lamia chair and given you any feedback?

[@mastercookie37]

I have one question, I'm looking for something cheap and still semi-comfortable. For the past year I've been using a small kitchen chair for my desk and recently been hoping to switch to something more comfortable but under $100. The cheapest chair on Amazon is a PayLess Office chair for $20, would you, or anyone reading this comment recommend it? (for my situation at least)

[@MA7ERICK]

Can't get Colamy chairs in Canada.

[@waffle911]

At time of writing, I can only find the Colamy Atlas in light gray, not the dark gray shown here.

[@LazerKing117]

Ticvoa chair had a defective seat as it always tilted to the left, forcing the user to reposition their spine. Customer support did nothing to help other than a $20 refund but this chair is almost unusable for someone for long periods of time (unless you want your back to hurt). This was within 4 months of having it. It is a shame because other tha this massive issue, I think it would have been a good chair. Customer support ruined it for me.

[@stefandsl]

Hi, what would be your choice, under $200 for a 6'5'' tall person?

[@damaylaphoenix1155]

sihoo m18

[@Nevrix123]

Torn between the Kirin and Atlas

[@pumacorp]

me too

[@robgrossi2368]

In one video, you guys unanimously knocked the Aeron Remastered into the middle of the tiers… and now one of you picks it for the top, no-budget. Okaaaay 😅. Personally, I love mine, esp since I never have the urge to sit crossed legged in a task chair.

[@btodtv]

Sounds like a seat comfort video for the Aeron to be ranked in the mid tiers. -Ryan

[@robgrossi2368]

@@btodtvahhh... my bad! Thanks for the response / clarification, Ryan.

[@ztw2002]

I ordered a Fern on 11/03 and still not here yet :(

[@CHEEBnRUN]

Me too, on the 9th. Custom?

[@toychristopher]

The steelcase leap is a torture device.

[@aurakarya9319]

i almost buying herman miller embody gaming, after watching so many videos, i ended feeling confused to decide which one.😢 🤣

[@cv7245]

I like you videos. They would be better if you added chapters..

[@ChildofD]

I have a multi use arm chair design, that will have multiple uses am currently looking for someone to sponsor me to get the concept up. The design will have applications indoors and out doors including hospitals the chair purpose is to be able to exercise while sitting on it, in the office or wherever one needs to. Any one intrested kindly reach out.

[@damaylaphoenix1155]

the Sihoo M18 is now 135.00 dollars and has a lifetime warranty . im 5'8" 280 pounds what are your thoughts ?

[@jarheadkev]

I tried the ticova and it was terrible, sent it back

[@PNN_ParodyNewsNetwork]

Remember we men lie about our height so -2 inches on their height just kdidin.....

[@ravenabove5317]

You want ergonomics, you want back support, you want comfort. The ONLY option is that you build your chair based upon your body. I for example have the most comfortable chair i ever bought because I built it for my body. I can build and rebuild this chair because i know exactly how it is built. Step one. find the chair shape you feel fits your back best. go to goodwill or savers or any place that has many shapes you can feel in reality. Step two. Find your material. try a mattress pad topper, carpet, wooden window shade. experiment and layer to you get the best back support. Step three. lock the material down using paracord, flat bungie cords. anything really. Step four. find the best material that you then place on top of the padding. Step five. Lock the outer material down. use staples, duct tape. Do not use gorilla tape as it will stick to everything and destroy it as you try to muscle it apart. Step six. make the chair moveable. using floor sliders. hard wood style or carpet. because chair wheel always cause problems. They are noisy, they are bumpy, they make the feel of your chair feel like its on water. unless you like the feel of casters. Step seven do NOT buy an office chair unless you like paying lots of money for a chair that is designed for everyone. just spend the time and build a chair for your personal comfort. Ergonomics are not a universal truth. the whole idea of ergonomics makes no sense.

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

You should definitely make a video about this, as I'm sure ppl will find it fascinating.

[@WolfOfJustice]

Ergonomics is a science with plenty of research, development and evidence to back up its case. However, you've hit the nail on its head when it comes to chair comfort subjectivity, because not everyone can fit in the same category. The issue with building your own chair is that you need to have good DIY skills and a shit ton of time on your hands, most ppl have neither, hence why we buy office chairs from companies who do try their best to cater towards everyone.

[@btodtv]

I would. Between the duct tape, bungee cords and floor sliders, we probably quite the creation on our hands -Greg

[@ravenabove5317]

i will. eventually. @@btodtv

[@AirCheco2345]

As a guy who’s had a few of these, just buy 1 of the $300-$500 chairs and invest in a massage chair. I promise you it’ll do more good than spending an extra $750 on a $1000+ office chair.

[@btodtv]

Interesting take, but I would disagree of course :) -Greg

[@jacobyson7629]

i feel like that really depends on the person, if you spend 8-10 hours a day at your desk in your chair than definitely not go with an expensive office chair, but if you only spend 4 hours or so at your desk, and the rest of the day you dont need to be at your desk, then probably not the worst idea to do that.

[@terrybillington2482]

There all an absolute rippoff. What a joke