We Play Your Wildest Brews | Eldrazi & Taxes vs Hardened Scales

We asked you to submit your wildest-yet-competitive brews and you did not disappoint! Will combining White Weeny with Eldrazi take the match? Does Hardened Scales have what is needed to make it in Pioneer?
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[@CardmarketMagic]

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[@flavioromano8754]

I think not triggering the two points of damage may have cost him the game

[@CBVonAwesome]

Missed the 2 life loss from Thoughtnot-Seer dying! I caught one!

[@jasonberning3230]

Saw that also, I feel that was a game changer.

[@Ezullof]

@@jasonberning3230 It was, and it happened twice. Jasmin lost the first game.

[@chrisc3198]

@@Ezullof the 2nd thought-knot was after Carl traded away Sheoldred. Jamin wins at 2hp. Though I guess this assumes that Carl doesn't play the 2nd TKS immediately if he catches that Jamin is at 2 before this.

[@AVISFM]

@@chrisc3198 if carl didn't pop deadlands on the constrictor and instead played the tks he could have blocked the trafficker and it would have died, forcing jamin to draw a card which would have killed him.

[@lastnamefirstname8655]

me too! saw that one!

[@AaronRotenberg]

5:20 The Thoughtseize bug is so powerful that it leaks from MTGO and Arena into real life.

[@lucyspencer9752]

It's funny that Carl is playing Death and Taxes because I had a dream last night where I was playing a Death and Taxes mirror with someone but he kept on doing strange things like blocking my creatures with his jacket.

[@CardmarketMagic]

Darn it! I wish I was playing the jacket! It would have been so OP 🤣

[@Oxygen1004]

sounds like an Un-effect, put clothes on your guys to block attacks

[@someguy9355]

AI generated dream

[@thomaskiser3886]

JUST to be that guy-y’all are making the best most real magic content next to Tolarian Community College’s professor….y’all rule and feel so real and I find myself genuinely laughing at stuff that happens!

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you for being that guy :D it's very kind of you! Maybe one day we'll have the budget to team up with the prof

[@dylanchannell2531]

Agree with this! Very professional and enjoyable. Makes me excited for each upload.

[@crapparc]

At least these guys haven't sold out to Current Times yet.

[@burningman948]

Just to be THAT GUY, but jamin forgot to take 2 damage from the TKS card draw trigger, which would have made Carls next TKS card draw trigger kill him (after he had taken two damage from the natural draw)

[@Aaackermann]

Don't want to be the OTHER GUY, but Jamin was at 6 life and never dropped below 4, so it wouldn't have made a difference. (Because Sheoldred was dead on attack, because she had to block, because of lethal damage) But you are right, they missed the trigger though.

[@AkselEstensen]

@@Aaackermann could he not have blocked the thopter tho?

[@asumata759]

@@AkselEstensen The thopter has flying, so nope.

[@burningman948]

​@@Aaackermann well if he had played the second TKS instead of using the land, he would have had a TKS to block with instead of using the Sheoldred (think i spelled that incorrectly, but on my phone and too lazy to spellcheck it)

[@intalekt]

To put it specifically, the first TKS puts Jamin at 4 on Carl's turn. Carl would need to play 2nd TKS (blocker) on his turn and not swing. Jamin's turn, down to 2. Jamin gets a his Hangarback but regardless of playing it, he loses before next upkeep if Sheoldred survives. Presumably Jamin swings with everything. TKS blocks the spirit, dying in the process, Carl takes 9 damage. TKS trigger, Jamin loses. Might've gotten that wrong, but it's a pretty straightforward line for Carl if Jamin's at 4 instead of 6 on his turn.

[@markomalmi7989]

So refreshing to see different piles of cards. Very classy casual content to play on the background.

[@Malabrace]

Carl Vs Jamin matches are my favourites. Their interaction is the best I have seen so far in card market's history

[@brandonguthrie7033]

Just found you guys a couple of days ago, been binging hard on all your videos while at work. Keep it up this channel and the presentation are both awesome

[@deanlinden1635]

I love all the live play stuff. I'd love another judges tower vid. That vid had me rolling so hard

[@TreeFcknFiddy]

This was my favorite video from this channel. The extra editing and zooming on the cards is a big help for those of us OG magic players who haven’t been around during the modern era enough to know all the cards. Bravo!

[@nutty626]

Love seeing all these deck brews, as a deck builder who often finds my self way to deep in the tank I love getting to see what other people are working on! Keep them coming!

[@LarsIsReal]

15:31 Error 😅

[@user-de6fr1qm9c]

I love these videos, the cut aways for opinions/reactions are great. Same with the sideboard discussions. The overall time of the videos are perfect. Great job guys! Please keep making these.

[@moxfaple]

Carl and Jamin let’s go! I’m sad I missed the post about the decklist I was so hype to add my decklist for mono red devotion for pioneer. I’ll keep an eye out for the community posts next time. Also two great fringe deck picks this time best mtg content on KZbin for sure

[@CardmarketMagic]

Mono Red devotion would have been so fun! :D

[@ryangainey94]

​@@CardmarketMagic Wait where do we post the deck ideas? I have a kind of spicy Modern list; it's Shrines but only in Rakdos and it utilizes Karn the Great Creator to tutor Mirror Box out of the sideboard to allow you to play multiples of the same Shrine, specifically relying most on the red 3 mana damage to any target in upkeep Shrine as well as the black 2 mana drain your opponent Shrine. The rest of the deck is Rakdos control; but Mirror Box can also buff Kroxa and having multiple "stupid monkey" Ragavans in play. Already good cards anyway but they get buffed from the Box too.

[@Damnmeplease]

I LOVE IT WHEN YOU PLAY OFF META PIONEER! It is absolutely my favorite thing you do on this channel. Keep making these videos and I'll keep watching and liking! Have a great week and thank you.

[@bukkfrig]

Clackbrige Troll! I had so much fun with it in standard with a jank Dimir colored brew that also played Protean Thaumaturge. The plan was to play troll and transform thaumaturges into more trolls that aren't re-entering the battlefield and so the opponent doesn't get any more goats. Meanwhile, Mogis's Favor and Mire's Grasp, backed by Hateful Eidolon and Lurrus, could remove goats on the cheap and provide the thaumaturge triggers. Agadeem's Awakening was also in the deck, so in a long game the dream was to return from the graveyard to the battlefield: (1) Hateful Eidolon, (2) Protean Thaumaturge, (3) Lurrus of the Dream Den, (4) Nightmare Shephard, and (5) Clackbridge Troll. I mean it wasn't Tier 1 or anything, but I was glad to make a deck that won some games and was _nothing like_ what anybody else was doing.

[@bukkfrig]

😁I found a video of a cool and interesting game with the deck and uploaded it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqvJgn6pg66KlZI

[@Varler_]

Loved it! It's always fun seeing unique decks!

[@catchasmurf762]

I love the on-screen info of this channel, paper magic is sick, great decklists and ideas and guests and presenters!

[@julienmclean6011]

I love watching the older videos and as a video editor seeing your guys continuing improvement and attention to detail!

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you! Happy to know I'm getting better 💪😃

[@fleurdemur]

Super cool little detail at 5:08, where the Hangarback is shown as not seen until Carl flips it.

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you! I hoped someone would notice! - Carl

[@jasongray435]

Great content! Love paper magic, love Pioneer, and love off-meta decks. Good job mates!

[@jadenmenezes5292]

I had so many thoughts while watching this video: WOW YOU PICKED MY DECK! It also won somehow? Against a sheoldred and a thoughtseize? Also even though I built the deck I had no idea about the iron apprentive and ozolith interaction, it's even better than i thought! It was a lot of fun to see my deck being played, keep up the great content!

[@jadenmenezes5292]

Also I would love to hear if you guys think defiant salvager is just to janky. I figured it might be part of the decks more explosive draws, but I do admit there are probably a lot of spots where it being sorcery speed just isn't good enough

[@jaminkauf6242]

​@@jadenmenezes5292 the combination of three mana and sorcery speed might just be too clunky, I think? In general, the deck was a blast! Too bad walking ballista is banned 😢

[@ericdravenashecorven]

@@jadenmenezes5292 Personally I'd probably trade it out for either Stonecoil Serpent or Gingerbrute or Ozolith, the Shattered Spire, but I think Salvager's fine if you like it. Congrats on your deck winning too. I played Hardened Scales Affinity in Modern for a couple years and I think this list looks really solid. Might have to revive my two favorite decks (HSA and Standard Constrictor) and play around with this build :)

[@thepufferfish8116]

love the content! keep up these brew games, they’re so fun to watch 👍

[@RealityMasterRogue]

This video was very easy to follow as someone who doesnt play mtg, great work on the editing and thanks for reading out the cards.

[@tyrelllowery2074]

I’ve only just been getting into watching modern games. I play standard on arena, but with the LoTR set out, I’ve been wanting to use those cards. Watching stuff like this helps me know what cards to look for in older sets. Please keep doing this! Is newer players thank you!

[@BenziTrain]

Super fun video! I love seeing unique brews - and you two play them!

[@Obversechaos]

I like everyone on this channel. They're all so friendly.

[@panthshah8991]

I saw the perfect 12 from Carl and I knew this one’s gonna be a banger

[@PhurySama]

I love your duels, especially with the brews. Keep it up guys!!!!

[@alexanderbartlett4931]

I absolutely love this video style it reminds me of what I love about magic!

[@greenwave819]

You guys never fail to make solid content!! Let's Go CARDMARKET!!!!

[@ConManAU]

I am definitely in favour of seeing more content like this - spicy brews, crazy combos, janky memes and any other weird decks you can throw at each other please!

[@dadejohnson6387]

That construct went to town in the first game. Nice to see the scales work hand in hand with the other cards there at the end. Good games gentleman .

[@ChrisB-zn3vp]

Great deck lists to go for a match up. Love it guys!!!

[@ericdravenashecorven]

Just wanted to clarify something about Hushbringer Vs the Hardened Scales deck. None of the abilities of his creatures are ETB abilities, they're entering *with* those counters. I understand it stops Hangarback and Iron Apprentice from using their ability when they die, but they don't do anything else against any of his creatures. In fact, it doesn't even stop The Ozolith from triggering since The Ozolith doesn't specifically say "Whenever a creature dies," it is distinct in saying "whenever a creature leaves the battlefield," which does include dying. I played Hardened Scales in Modern for a couple years and I've seen people try this sort of sideboard tech before, but ETB and Enters With are two mostly different things. For those that are confused: Hushbringer stops triggered abilities that trigger when a creature enters the battlefield. If the ability of creatures such as Hangarback Walker were triggered abilities, there would be a brief second when the creature is on the field with zero counters while the ability is on the stack, and it would die immediately as it is a 0/0. Hangarback doesn't use the stack and cannot be responded to. The Hushbringer entry on Gatherer includes this ruling as well. No criticism at all though! It's a little counterintuitive and I've definitely won some games because of that distinction. Magic's hard man. For more information, the Hushbringer entry: gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Hushbringer

[@Ellie-bs5zq]

To note, Hushbringer wouldn't have helped at all against the Hardened Scales deck. Not a single card in it triggers from ETB; many cards have "That creature enters with n +1/+1 counters" and some have "As [CARDNAME] enters the battlefield," but those are not triggered abilities and thus Hushbringer wouldn't stop them. The only card with an ability that triggers from plays is Patchwork Automaton, which is a cast trigger rather than an ETB trigger and wasn't played in game 1 anyway.

[@CardmarketMagic]

Woooow you arr correct! Good thing I didn't draw it 😅

[@reecepruis6322]

Thought-knot Seer with the world of warcraft sound effect was boss! Great brews!

[@valt3rnative]

You guys really look like you're having fun! 😄 Btw loving the blue background of the room you're always in. Did I understand correctly you guys actually pause the game to make those additional comments about your thought processes? 😯 The interview comment made me think that. I always reconed those were done after the match.

[@dddddmmm777]

Another great video! always cool to see the community engagement, and some great games!

[@TheGorick]

Loved those games and decks! Would of loved to see more. Maybe a 3 out of 5 with 2 non sideboarded games?

[@sebastianbustos-smith5338]

@33:48 i believe you would only get either the counters on the ozolith or the counters on a creature with the apprentice's trigger, not both. They both refer to the specific counters being moved, if one of them said like "put that many counters" instead of "put those counters" then you could do what you did

[@MommaGart]

Off-meta brews for formats are my absolute favorite! Love playing weird decks in Pioneer.

[@jakecashin]

This is the requested comment saying I like these videos. I think the balance of explanation and direct gameplay is well done and the graphics keeping track of relevant abilities are great. I also like that you are playing a lot of different formats, I play mostly edh these days so these are very digestible ways to look at other formats. Staple or Stinker videos are also great.

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you! :)

[@GodzillaTweets]

Hi guys. Newer subscriber.. been outta the magic loop for a decade. But I really enjoy this channel. We started playing back at 4th edition... And in doing so we all had our favorite themes.. mine we called " The white weenie"... It was a combination of regular and forgotten realms white knights and such... I've never seen a tournament white forgotten realms deck... Any chance someday you can show one on here

[@oafkad]

I think of all the shows I've watched this is my favorite overlay for the matches.

[@waydezilla]

15:38 forgot the Sheoldred trigger on the Thought Knot seer card draw.

[@laziepeon1209]

Fun looking pair of decks squaring off. The death and taxes deck missed lethal in game one (missed life loss plus playing 2nd thought-knot would have lead to exact lethal) but was still some good plays of magic.

[@chaosman999]

Those videos are just getting better and better, best mtg content on YT by FAR. Great job guys

[@davidthumm505]

Yeah with Brewer's also being great

[@piercearora7681]

@@davidthumm505 Cardmarket should invite Brewer's Kitchen on as a special guest, can we make this happen? Someone, please make this happen!

[@davidthumm505]

@@piercearora7681 yeah thus would be quality content

[@davidthumm505]

@@piercearora7681 yeah this would be quality content

[@Mallwan]

I love the decks, love the players and the quality of the content.

[@PrereleasePrep]

Cool video, but still the best part of it was the song at the end 😁 now that is amazing!

[@Rinjin84]

Great video and great content in general. Just a sidenote - You both seemed baffled by the Clackbridge Troll. If used alongside the Hushbringer (Or a Strict Proctor), you negate the most glaring downside of the troll. The opponent will get no goats and have to sac their prized creatures. Might not have mattered that much in this match-up, with Ozolith shenanigans, but against an opponent with a small board presence, it will hurt :)

[@Razomka]

Great content! Looking forward to more, regardless of what it is! Maybe a couple of spicy control/combo decks.

[@Itszenlal]

you could put wasteland strangler in the eldrazi and taxes deck. it gets cards from exile and is removal, it was played in the modern version with tidehollow sculler

[@francescognerre2408]

thank you for the suggestion! i just printed out a few to proxy up and playtest with to see if i like how it plays.

[@huscarlkt2335]

Jamin and Carl are just so much fun to watch play, looking forward for more

[@billrobinsonmazda]

Cool decks. They both look fun to play!

[@Smith.S.E.]

I am a simple man, I see Cardmarket paper magic video, I click watch.

[@peterhobolth215]

Same😂

[@suddenlyeva]

I have a really wild modern brew that pretty much has 0 meta share so I'd love to see it get played! Lands: 4x Polluted Delta 4x Misty Rainforest 4x Prismatic Vista 4x Sunken Hollow 1x Swamp 5x Island Spells: 4x Profane Tutor 4x Reach Through Mists 4x Peer Through Depths 4x Fallaji Archaeologist 2x Ideas Unbound 4x Perplex 4x Tainted Remedy 4x Roar of Jukai 4x Disrupting Shoal 4x Sickening Shoal Sideboard: 4x Fatal Push 4x Inquisition of Kozilek 3x Horobi's Whisper 2x Ideas Unbound 2x Swan Song

[@makingmagic-rea]

Just thought to suggest Carl to play mono black burn again as it is awesome, keep doing your thing as your content is great.

[@tyleradams6817]

Eldrazi taxes looked pretty bad here. I would 100% be making room in the list for Eldrazi Dsiplacer Containment Priest shenanigans. Displacer by itself would have been great in this matchup.

[@melanieOh]

This was really fun to watch!

[@XTimTheEnchanterX]

Oh boy, that time of the week again!

[@iag037]

I love this kind of content, i was just expecting MonoRed Eldrazi

[@MrToastyPepsi]

Love me some brew decks and especially in the pioneer format

[@williammollohan7788]

Fun stuff! I say keep doing more!

[@Tomonster14]

Great content and great editing too!

[@cooljoe500]

that D&T Deck is very spicy. might try it out someday.

[@andli]

Cardmarket is fast approaching being the best mtg channel on KZbin.

[@CardmarketMagic]

That's so kind of you to say :)

[@MrFunkhouser]

These are my favorite kinds of content!

[@eigilbundgaard3364]

I cant wait to watch this video!!! AND WITH BOTH CARL AND JARMIN!!!!!! lets go!!!

[@animationtime7265]

Everyone's talking about how they missed Sheoldred trigger but not about how carl lost 7 life when he attacked for 5. 27:49

[@user-xu2xp4kv2i]

Great content!! Please continue :)

[@AlexDuWaldt]

19:48 I think this was a bit of a mistake in sideboarding. The Anointed Peacekeeper is extremely good against this matchup in particular. Besides the fact that Jamin is playing multiples of several creatures there are a lot of them with activated abilities. I would have kept peacekeeper and brought in 1 thalia for some other card, maybe tag out the thought knot seer considering peacekeeper basically does his same thing, even better for less mana and less specific mana.

[@tokleb]

I would like to see you play a gates deck. Mana is just gates plus some sweepers and ramp with mazes end as win or just gatecrasher rams with casual 11/11 late game.

[@evankraabel5415]

Hushbringer actually does very little against Jamin's deck. Hangarbackwalker doesnt have a trigger putting the counters on, and meanwhile its actively hurting your own Thought knot seer

[@timothygerbig875]

My suggestion for a Modern challenge, just because it's decks I enjoy, would be Eternal Command vs. Sneak and Show. Thanks!

[@pixell2520]

I think with the recent making of Oathbreaker as an official format, it would be cool to see you guys play Oathbreaker! Going along with this, I'm just gonna drop my deck here to see if it piques the interests of any of the guys It's designed around playing Eternal Dominion quickly, then just playing your opponents decks the whole game while having Nicol Bolas use they're commander In addition, there are cards designed to benefit off of discarding, which you'll be doing pretty much every turn with nothing to play after Eternal Dominon gets out Decklist: 1 Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God 1 Eternal Dominion 1 Arcane Signet 1 Argentum Masticore 1 Armix, Filigree Thrasher 1 Blackcleave Cliffs 1 Blood Crypt 1 Brallin, Skyshark Rider 1 Cackling Witch 1 Charcoal Diamond 1 Chromatic Lantern 1 Chromatic Orrery 1 Creeping Tar Pit 1 Darkslick Shores 1 Dimir Signet 1 Dreadship Reef 1 Ebony Fly 1 Feast of Sanity 1 Fellwar Stone 1 Fire Diamond 1 Glint-Horn Buccaneer 1 Glittering Stockpile 1 Grim Monolith 1 Haunted Ridge 2 Island 1 Izzet Signet 1 Junk Golem 1 Lantern-Lit Graveyard 1 Lavaclaw Reaches 1 Lazotep Chancellor 1 Lotus Blossom 1 Mage il-Vec 1 Masticore 1 Molten Slagheap 1 Mountain 1 Mox Opal 1 Overtaker 1 Pack Rat 1 Rakdos Signet 1 Runaway Trash-Bot 1 Salvage Slasher 1 Shipwreck Marsh 1 Shivan Reef 1 Sky Diamond 1 Spirebluff Canal 1 Steam Vents 1 Stormcarved Coast 1 Sulfurous Springs 2 Swamp 1 Talisman of Creativity 1 Talisman of Dominance 1 Talisman of Indulgence 1 The Raven Man 1 Underground River 1 Urborg Syphon-Mage 1 Wandering Fumarole 1 Waterveil Cavern 1 Watery Grave

[@CardmarketMagic]

Ooooh a commander deck! I'll put this aside for our commander game with our next guest! (In case we play a format in which this works) :)

[@MrCosmo1236]

I really enjoy stuff like this:)

[@int3r4ct]

Not that it would have mattered, but shouldn’t the Apprentice enter with 4 +1/+1 counters at 33:30 ? It triggers itself, which is increased to 2 by Hardened Scales, and the Metallic Mimic triggers separately, which also goes to 2 from Hardened Scales. Honestly not sure if it is 4 though, since Mimic is worded weirdly so it might be a replacement effect? It’s honestly been so long since I’ve played in paper I can’t even remember how it should work lol

[@CardmarketMagic]

It's two triggers that each add a counter :) the original counter only happens once

[@Davidbruun]

Love this kind of content ❤

[@pinobluevogel6458]

Truly some crazy snake unlocking!

[@MrMeltJr]

I play Scales in Modern and there have been quite a few times when I've lost because I played it too safe. Sometimes you just gotta put a lot of counters on a thing and ask the opp if they have an answer.

[@mikkeemowse]

Love seeing pioneer :)

[@samuel5345]

these paper magic vids are real good

[@ElessarShorkVT]

Watching the feature matches makes me wish I wasn't so bad at deck building for 60s. I just never know how much to put in of what just how to more fine tune it

[@CardmarketMagic]

We don't either, we usually start with 4 of each cars and then cut and add depending on how well the cards perform in our test games :) that's why we like when viewers submit decks, it saves us so much time!

[@illprophill3501]

15:37, drawing a card loses you 2 life. Sheoldred babyyyy

[@corey6597]

Oof, that game one with the missed sheoldred trigger and could've played the thought knot seer and if he killed it on attacks, Jamin would've died to sheoldred trigger

[@MysterMystical]

Hey guys, please play some more Pioneer. I'm keen to see how the Abzan Greasefang deck goes in to some of the other decks, in particular creativity, 4 colour enchantments etc.

[@user-tp7ju3wz8o]

i dont know if it was already a feature match but i would love to see a battle of wits mirror!

[@CardmarketMagic]

🤣 I'll add it to the list but I don't know if we are brave enough

[@Chubbies34]

How does the interaction with iron master and the ozoloith works ? Why does he effectively conjure extra counters onto both a creature and the ozolith ? They both say move not place so those two counters should go either place no ? Not both places

[@simonr6268]

I feel Jamin missed that he can play Metallic Mimic into Hangarback Walker for 0 in game one.

[@mawillix2018]

Love this content!

[@submarinesailor5140]

"Based on the fact that you hit the ground running?" Immediately smashed the like button

[@alexfisher4442]

i thought this was a modern throwback vid at first

[@CardmarketMagic]

It could! These decks were once modern playable :)

[@SquareGrills]

this is the best magic channel there is!

[@CardmarketMagic]

That's so kind of you to say! 😃

[@ScherlSimon]

Nice one!

[@Mate_00]

27:45 - attacking with 5 damage but going from 21 to 14? A mistake or am I missing something here?

[@mikelorozabeledo3187]

25:30 why the creatures doesn’t enter the battlefield tapped

[@nasekiller]

does hardened scales / constrictor actually affect the number of counters on a creature when it enters the battlefield? because the effect reads "enters the battlefield with" and not "put counters on it"

[@CardmarketMagic]

Yes it does :) it's been a common rules interaction many times in magic's history

[@NStripleseven]

Bet hardened scales list is happy with the new MOM stuff (ozolith and the mana dork that has that effect)