WE'RE IN TROUBLE WITH THE BUILDING INSPECTOR

[@eamonandbec]

Happy Father’s Day to all the fathers in our community!! If you’re reading this take it as a sign to go call your dad and tell him you love him 💕

[@ginamarie5575]

Just did thx for the reminder lol, already sent a gift just had to call 📞 😘 hope you guys are well

[@aqilah5519]

Stay strong eamon & bec. I feel so sad :(((

[@lizbarnes9078]

I believe the the permit issue are the “walls” that Eamon dreamt about the night before the bad news. Remember your super power and find ways to enjoy your time until this is resolved. I’m surprised that this didn’t come up sooner but then that is a good point on your behalf. Why didn’t the township visit you sooner to let you know months ago?? Before the many landings and stairs. You got this!! One day it will be behind you. 🥰🥰🥰

[@Trishpage312]

My father has dementia and thinks I'm after his house and money so... I'm still going to call and tell him that I love him because I read this. Thank you.

[@daniellefollano9223]

I’d love to call my father, unfortunately this is the 10th Father’s Day with out him. Your videos help take my mind off sad times and I’m grateful 🖤

[@SH-uv6cp]

E&B, see it as blessing. The inspector coming now and flagging your building could prevent a bigger problem or accident down the line. Try not to get angry and blame. Thank the universe for highlighting this error and enabling you to fix it and continue safely to create a wonderful home for your future family & friends. Good luck.

[@mione134]

That's how I feel.

[@jackelpubs2728]

Absolutely

[@IvyRoad]

Yes, this! No one was hurt. Nothing collapsed under the weight of a party. That is an immense blessing!

[@ianfurqueron5850]

Agreed. Plumbing, electrical, HVAC systems... all of them typically need permits and inspections during the installation process. The deck(s) may require inspections as well. To be honest, a few of the assembly methods we questionable to me. Mainly, the lack of any joist hangers, but I'm not sure what the rules are in that area.

[@kimberlyearly8918]

@@quietpassage Man, that would be awful! I would be so worried about the liability of having people over with all those stairs!

[@litespeciell]

Quick tip from an architect! Hire a local architect/permit engineer (I don’t know the proper term in english) to help make all permits. They will have the proper knowledge of the local rules to make the process go smoother and they probably have a relationship with people from your township. They can produce drawings of your entire property and house that can help in future projects as well. It does cost a lot but if you don’t have the knowledge yourselves it is worth it to not have to take everything down.

[@victorialee1239]

Yes yes yes yes yes

[@lenaannis8787]

I totally agree with you. Here in Greece before you sell your house you must hire an engineer to make sure that the house has everything in order that the city requires. And yes it costs,but its fair for the buyer to know that he has paid for a safe house.

[@kamaln7197]

Or you can avoid mark ass snitches…

[@tommy69693]

Definitely my husband is an architect and he would say the same , someone local who knows the planners Karen x

[@fujikamifl91]

Eamon and Bec..hope you are listening to this!

[@RealEstateOttawa]

I’m in Ottawa and have both a gung ho architect and engineer that could help. You need someone that can challenge the building codes etc. Create drawings and document what’s been done and yet to be done. Especially after the fact. You got nailed because your on line. Typically cosmetic updates you get away with no permits. Reach out if you need help

[@MarsTV_Cartoons]

Wow. You have such an impressive name.

[@andreabarrette5340]

Great idea!

[@julierogers1155]

They "got nailed"* due to being in violation of, at least one, building code (requiring a permit).

[@marlowemayhem3230]

@@quietpassage 😆 What view did they obstruct? Neighbors don't have any say over construction on another property. Building codes are one thing, but neighbors don't factor in unless it's a HOA or something.

[@kimberlyearly8918]

I wonder how someone would know if they had permits or not.

[@OhMJB]

I'm beyond surprised none of the people who've helped you along the way haven't ever asked to see permits or mentioned them! But it is in your best interest for your own health and safety, as well as any future family that would live in the house, that you learned this now and can make sure things are okay with the house. It's to avoid the worse case scenarios - accidents, death, injury, etc. I know people going through that grueling process right now. It's annoying and takes a long time, but there are these procedures for a reason (see all the insane and deadly accidents that civil engineering students learn about). Wishing you two a fast journey through the process!

[@valarya]

I think the majority of the comments (including myself) are "we thought about permits and thought you either had them or that Canada was less strict." Now I'm wishing we had all spoken up before so you could have taken care of it before someone had to file a complaint!! oh noooo!! Live and learn, thanks for sharing and good luck with the permits!! ♥

[@seashelify362]

I did, as we have a cottage about 1 1/2 hours from them, & they responded that they had permits. Where I live, one can do nothing, I mean nothing without a permit.

[@ashleyblake8321]

I remember reading it in the comments throughout the process - especially when they started building the deck.

[@JS-es5ep]

@@seashelify362 And, if you have a building permit, it has to be displayed where it can be seen.

[@elleemann]

So they were lying about not knowing that they needed a permit and having a permit?

[@IvyRoad]

@@seashelify362 Oh!

[@kellymeredithdc7436]

Love the new dock. Hope the permit issues are fixed easily and without any more trauma.

[@Cocoa_bean2014]

If the building has to stop sounds like it’s time to garden!

[@alanaroselindsay88]

yessss :)

[@nomade1697]

Therapeutic outlet I agree

[@Valentina-yo9ec]

Lol least they did the big stuff. 😂

[@Tatersthezebra88]

They'd probably need a permit for that too.

[@kaylajacobs3220]

I LOVE your idea!!!

[@johnyoscovits3554]

Being world travelers and a business owner permits are required for pretty much for everything very surprised they let this one slip by

[@helgedell]

@Wilhelm S Ignored it? Are you sure they got the message? Too many comments in here to catch up on all. 

[@Idontjuul]

@MadLuc if you’re right, that’s disgusting Bc that means he literally thinks he’s above the law by moving farther out🙄

[@z.j.maayan8458]

I am so sorry! Watching your vlog I actually had the thought a few weeks ago "wow, Canada is really liberal with those building permits." I actually wondered if Canada did not even have permits! Those stairs will absolutely need some work guys, based on my history with inspectors. I am shocked no one said anything to you. Good luck, as always!

[@GPSINC.]

I’m a licensed electrical contractor living in Nobleton and I work out of Woodbridge. The one great thing you guys did was document all your work on video. That’s what inspectors do not like hidden treasures. Most inspectors will look at the footage and comment on anything that was done incorrectly and hopefully you guys can rectify those situations. It’s really up to the inspectors. Good luck with it all and by the way I think you guys are great

[@jackelpubs2728]

We moved into a house with 2 14x20 level decks. My brother is a mechanical engineer and said they were built like a tank. 20 years later only the bottom two steps needed replaced from ground moisture. Every year I hear about decks collapsing during parties. With your lake and snow, the codes will keep you safe. So sorry and all the best.

[@kran8569]

You shouldn’t be angry at your neighbors. Building codes are there to protect you from insurance liabilities and to protect future home owners. Imagine if you sold that cottage to another nice family and they wanted to alter something on the deck and they went the township only to find out nothing you did had permits, they would be stuck and penalized.

[@justinc5356]

Actually, no. If they sold it, and later it was discovered work was done without permits, or, something happened and someone was hurt the new owners Title Insurance would cover it - but then the insurance company would come back after E&B for it! I know someone who built a deck without a permit on a previous house and it collapsed - he got hit with a 100K lawsuit by the insurance company

[@janetlee2136]

They should be very angry with their neighbors for not minding their own business if you buy a piece of property like I said in my comment and you pay taxes on it you pay for the property it's nobody's business what you do on your own property it's a bit ridiculous that the people of any state or country would allow their government to run their lives that way. The government will do whatever you allow them to do. That's not freedom

[@proinseasokiellig4388]

@@janetlee2136 Janet..meet reality

[@jaggedone8474]

@@janetlee2136 So if someone purchased the property next to yours and added possibly unsafe additions to the existing home, removed the trees and landscaping and started storing hoarded junk and used cars in their front yard -- you would be fine with that because it is their own property and as a ‘good neighbor’ you would just ignore your property values plummeting? I’m betting you would be very unhappy.

[@areliablesource2848]

@@janetlee2136 Janet, there are places in the world for people that think like you do; Somalia comes to mind right away. Yes, building codes were put into place to protect you and everybody else from dumb-shit people that just pretend to know what they are doing.

[@paulcatarino2209]

Eamon and Bec, also keep in mind that Insurance companies wont pay out for damages if work isn't done with the proper permits and by licensed electricians, plumbers etc... A small fine from the city or a stop work order is a set back but imagine having to still paying for a mortgage on a house that is no longer standing because the insurance wont pay after it burns down.

[@JoanOfArgghh]

If you don't ever allow Boomers into your circle of influence, you will have to learn things the hard way. Building permits may seem like a form of oppression, and they can be, but we all live in community with reasonable expectations of our neighbors to also value safety and quality-- for our mutual protection against fire and mishap. Property regulation has been around for centuries. Those who reported you are thinking of their own safety and property value, and are thinking of your safety and investment, too.

[@stevejeffrey11]

@@JoanOfArgghh it's not a generational thing, plenty of younger folk who know permits are required for expansions or new construction. We used to rent an off grid cabin in the middle of nowhere where a guy 'owned' he land & even then Regional District was breathing down his neck trying to get him to build proper sanitation tanks for every cabin. People even have to pay taxes on land they have bought mortgage free, which shows us we don't own it but the banks do. Canada has so much red tape bureaucratic BS it's ridiculous on top of the taxes

[@leongasperment3343]

that is not a correct answer as long as a home owner pulls a permit and passes inspections he can do the work

[@zoee.5809]

@@JoanOfArgghh pretty sure Bob and Tom are both boomers lol

[@wadeharris3037]

As a licenced contractor in WA St. I was wondering how they could get away with hill side stairs like that. Someone saved them a huge lawsuits and a sad story. Just get it engineered, drawn properly and make necessary corrections to make code compliance. Good luck

[@nicucoll]

The end of the day ~ this isn’t worth stressing you’re both healthy ! Rock on

[@nancylafferty8362]

I hope everything works out! All they had to do was call and let you know ……

[@Brunneria]

I sat watching the window wall episode thinking ‘wow, they are taking out all the support for that side of the roof - hope they are confident with the weight bearing calculations of those uprights, or one winter storm will wreck everything…’ And now I know that no calculations were done at all… Listen to the engineer you hire. He may save your lives - on those steps, and on the cliff side of the cabin…

[@jenc5281]

I’m thinking because they subcontracted that work, that maybe permits for that or calculations were done. Let’s hope 🤞

[@nomade1697]

Feel super sure the company would have handled that side :-)

[@marygutman6026]

@@jenc5281 I have subcontracted a ton of work between two home renovations, and it was very common for my contractors to ask "and you'll handle the permit, right?" And then do just exactly what I asked of them, never asking to even see what the permit said. That said, as part of the bidding process we often discussed "what code calls for," and it is hard to believe that NO ONE they interacted with mentioned a building code to them.

[@Ruetschle]

42” high guardrails at all platforms about 30” above the ground and vertical pickets so you can’t pass a 4” sphere through. Railings will need to be designed to withstand horizontal loads also which is often overlooked. Simpson strong tie wood connectors will be your friend.

[@paigehanson2884]

After all the van builds I’m sure you guys get in a construction groove and are so used to calling your own shots with all this that permits didn’t even cross your mind. Also good on you for being real with everybody, finding out you made a mistake is a tough pill to swallow let alone sharing it with a boat load of people. Thank you for being upfront and not letting shame seep in! Keep up the high spirits, it will all work out in the end 👏🏼

[@elainefournier7376]

Well said!

[@Off-Grid]

We all screw up from time to time

[@FatemaHira-oq1dw]

Making a mistake is okay, owning your mistake is courageous and ready to fix it shows inner strength and your inner honesty. On the other hand denying your mistake even after realizing it only shows either your insecurity or your dishonest dirty mind. I am so happy to know again that you are not those type. Love you two. I know you can fix it in the right way. Even if does not fixed in a way you want, no one can take away your amazing journey and skills. We will start over if needed. Okay. Cheer up. So many professionals around you and everything online for so long, to be honest how slow are the township authority?? It sounds fishy though. It sounds like, "Okay all the hard work is done and we can take it away from them to enjoy it for us. " Sorry to put the nail like that. But if I were you, I would have felt like that. Good luck with everything dear.

[@Tia.H]

@@FatemaHira-oq1dw This is a good response, which I would encourage you to put in as an actual comment to their video instead of a reply to someone else's comment, so that Eamon and Bec are more likely to see it. It deserves to be seen more!

[@Ann-cx3dd]

Super true!

[@mmamallama1827]

Early in the project I said to my husband …. “I don’t think Canada requires permits and inspections.” What a can of worms. GOOD LUCK!!

[@mochibear8933]

I understand that everyone has to follow the local building rules, it would have been nice if the locals who complained talked to you first and ask if you were aware the need for permits/inspection etc. Why would you watch people spend good money to possibly have to re-do it? That just seems unkind & unfriendly. I don't know.

[@jmk1962]

Jealousy

[@janlobb4463]

also the general safety concern related to some of the renovations or builds. moving walls, cutting down pols in the kitchen, playing with electricity, are all connected to their safety and the long term safety of the house (future owners). you wouldnt want the beautiful glass wall to break next winter because the support wasnt properly made and the cold makes the house move and crack the windows for example.

[@africanhoopoetours]

It's not as if they are interfering with their neighbour's. I don't give a rats ass if my neighbor builds on to hes house as long as it does not effect me. They got real pain in the ass neighbour's. Not like they living on top of each other

[@mochibear8933]

@@janlobb4463 I'm not saying safety isn't important or they should have special privileges and not get permits or retrospectively. It's the way people go about things. Communicate with people, inform them, educate them, be kind. Then, if you see them continuing to ignore the rules & keep building you gave them a chance.

[@Trishpage312]

Really though if they had to wait for permits from a bureaucracy during a pandemic god only knows how long that would take. Years I would think. Oh and the cost and greasing of palms for the permits. Now they are looking a fines and having to take it all down!?! Dear God!

[@enjoyfreedom4life]

I was wondering about that, and how quickly you got approved for everything. Having a recreational property close to yours, the first step would usually be a site plan, followed by architectural drawings, engineering, followed by permits, and fees at every stage. Also, in this area, expect pushback from neighbours at every step of the way. And, never trust your neighbours; no matter how friendly they are, they are always jealous.

[@unohoo9637]

This is every where too!!

[@elizabethames9402]

Very well said, neighbors are so annoying

[@jmathijsk]

Auch! What a complex situation, hopefully all is well for you and for our young happy builders!

[@margaretgallager3115]

Exactly that neighbors are jealous

[@julierogers1155]

Agree with all, EXCEPT your last statement. There are good neighbors, and "bad" neighbors. A neighbor that builds willy-nilly is NOT a great neighbor. Personally, I have had great neighbors, the BEST (waterfront, and otherwise).

[@dawnyski9175]

As “influencers” of many many people, I admire your willingness to be accountable for the situation rather than be immature and angry focusing on who or why it was reported. People will learn from your mistakes rather than repeat them. Blessings ❤️

[@IvyRoad]

Yes, this.

[@Off-Grid]

We all make mistakes, it happens.

[@dawnyski9175]

Not everyone is willing to admit when they do, let alone “learn” from it and be vulnerable and humble enough to set such a great example to the world we live in. Well done Eamon and Bec!! You two are the hardest working, adventurous young people I have ever had the pleasure of knowing ❤️

[@mileycyrusmusicful]

I was always wondering about permits! With the first deck, I was like “maybe it’s fine and within the minimum or just something they didn’t share” but as soon as it became something huge, with multiple levels, I was wondering what was up…

[@flutecf]

I thought the same. In my state, you can't add a small storage shed without HOA approval nor do anything without a permit. I trust my contractors to take care of it.

[@ruinsane100]

I was wondering the same thing! But I just figured maybe in rural Canada there were no rules. Yikes.

[@timross7454]

Would not be surprised if the lake association called up the township, most take great pride in the lake and environmental protection. The shower and sink that did not lead to the septic could have been the straw that broke the camels back.

[@akau1340]

I'm sure they were counting on Eamon being able to talk his way out of any problems. But, on the other hand, they'll have more dramatic content dealing with all of this.

[@benjigirl1971]

@@akau1340 you see the worst in people, I suspect.

[@SFlaidlaw101]

The production level recently has been out of this world. I cannot believe it... but totally appreciate that you upload this top-notch stuff EVERY WEEK! You guys are bundles of joy and happiness in so many people's lives. 💕💕💕

[@scottgroves1010]

Lol Top notch?😂😂😂

[@eamonandbec]

Awe thank you so so much beautiful! We feel so lucky to get to share our lives with you each and every Sunday! Thank you so much for watching ☀️

[@lizame65]

I thought you guys hired an editor? Who is editing the videos now?

[@nadarracollette]

@@lizame65 they talked about in in their podcast a while ago there is someone doing it I forget who but bec replies to comments

[@lizame65]

@@nadarracollette I know.

[@brianlam257]

I remember when they built the first deck outside their door, many people who claimed themselves professional builders said their deck is insecure since they didn't this and that. I fear that many of their builds are hard to get permits without major revamp

[@marilynlucas3072]

My uncle built a beautiful cabin in Quebec not far from Ottawa. On a lake no permits. Well he sold the cabin as they got older. Those people had issues and guess what they sued for a couple of million dollars. The buyers did not get that much but they did get mucho money because no permits were ever pulled. No inspections done. This a lesson learned for your future endeavors. You will get through this and finish what you started. Be patient. Do what you have to do. Your future complete home will be fantastic.

[@dianasantacroce]

I used to live on a lake. I have a feeling it's your surrounding neighbors saying, "hey how come these guys have their permits to build so fast and I am still waiting for mine?" - more than any one specifically told on you. The permit department like most departments are slower than molasses in June. So everyone around you who's been waiting for permits have probably been noticing the fast pace your moving on the things they are wanting to build as well. Your culprit may be the next person building a porch. Anyway, sorry to hear the disappointing news, but I super enjoy your channel!! Thank you!

[@IvyRoad]

Yes, or people who were denied permits to build platforms and stairs down the grade to the lake for reasons of conservation.

[@justinc5356]

@@IvyRoad Sure, if I was denied a permit for that kind of work - and saw a neighbour doing it, I would obviously call and say "So you gave them a permit to do the work, but denied me?" looking for fairness... which probably triggered them wondering why.

[@IvyRoad]

@@justinc5356 Yes, I think this is the most likely scenario. People with cottages in the area wondering if the rules had changed, and if they could now build on the grade to the lake, too. They may also have known why the original owners did not have easy lake access in all the years they had a cottage there, and people would want to know what changed. Not necessarily any kind of mean-spirited act at all. People simply wanting to know why these people were privileged beyond everyone else.

[@jessicac8638]

You definitely need to review your deed to check to see if you even have water rights to the lake. You can’t get mad at the people who reported you, but you should be pissed at the people who knew better and didn’t make sure everything was in place to do the work.

[@chrissyjansen502]

They said in a video months ago they have waterfront property

[@jessicac8638]

@@chrissyjansen502 The property may be waterfront but that does not guarantee they have rights to access the water. It’s called Riparian rights in the US, not sure about the Canadian version.

[@kotaa6967]

No you can be mad. Whose life is that boring that they report people building their dream home?

[@jessicac8638]

@@kotaa6967 if they had gotten the necessary permits it wouldn’t have mattered if they were reported. It would have saved them time and money from the beginning. Are permits convenient? No, but they protect you as the homeowner if something happens to your property or you plan to sell it. If someone were to get injured on one of those decks without permitting, the homeowners insurance policy would deny the claim leaving them to be sued personally. It is really important.

[@amybkang]

I wonder if the pressure to create interesting content week after week subconsciously led to this problem. Watching an attractive young couple navigate bureaucracy doesn’t sound exciting but that may be what we’re in for now. Best of luck moving forward.

[@charlieh.2260]

Exactly. They didn't want to lose out on the tens of thousands of dollars they make every month from their videos. I like them, but come on. Of course they knew what they were doing.

[@designstudio8013]

Too bad.they chose this way to finance themselves

[@suee031]

Hopefully they clear the dock and stairs with the local conservation authority. They can be very particular. When we built a deck and installed an above ground pool and fencing we required permits. Lesson learned in this case. Guests and future owners of the property will be protected if things are not done to code. You just can't cut corners on the important stuff.

[@smileyhappyradio]

Hope the inspector works with you both, your not doing anything wrong. Building inspections are to keep you safe, not reprimand people for stuff they want to do. Your doing such a nice job on the place too!

[@jackieheintzman95]

I also live in Ontario, and my family has run into many issues with permits and construction on our home! When we decided to sell our family home, we ran into major problems and had to reconstruct our entire basement (for a second time) and re do our whole staircase. It was stressful and expensive! I feel for you both, but am also glad it happened now versus when you are completely done 🥺 good luck!

[@LRumore]

LOL!! This entire time my US husband and I were wondering if your township even had inspectors or not. We were like, damn, Canada has some pretty lax construction standards, don't even have to get any of this inspected?! I'm amazed not a single "adult" figure in your realm asked you if you "plans", "drawings", "permits" for any of your projects. Especially your decks and staircases. Honestly, you guys flew under the radar for a very long time, you probably would have only made it a few weeks (at best) in California.

[@cindytaylor7155]

Would only made it a week in Michigan. They like that money. Get ready to pay for a few permits and fines. Nobody wants to see someone get something for free when they just had to pay hundreds of dollars to do half of what you did for free. Plus the permits are so they know how much to raise your taxes. Just keep smiling.

[@jackie8357]

Yup if they let you keep it - it will def raise your taxes, hopefully at least the stuff at the main house will be ok. But your dock and your stairs to the water are easily removable.

[@Simbecile]

@@cindytaylor7155 same in Massachusetts but your contractor should be doing that for you or at least advising you.

[@earthexplorer579]

In Canada all you have to say is sorry

[@cindytaylor7155]

@@earthexplorer579 lol that's pretty cool. Not here they would laugh and hand you a nice large bill.

[@rhiannonschaumburg564]

I hope everything works out! But, just as a friendly reminder, permits exist for a reason, they aren't just there to make your life difficult. Think about the beautiful piece of heaven where you purchased your cabin. If there were no permits, that piece of heaven would soon become polluted, overbuilt, crowded, and loud. This is why permits began to be required in the first place. So if you think of the permits that you are required to get as security that the land you are blessed with will remain enjoyable in the future, maybe that will take away some of the frustration. And your neighbors have probably dealt with people much less charming and thoughtful than you in the past, and have had to fight battles against people putting up huge, invasive structures. It's really just about keeping the location one that is beautiful and enjoyable for everyone who lives there.

[@SirCheese710]

Absolutely agree with the intentions of permits, but coming from the perspective of someone living in San Francisco, and having dealt with planning/building in Oakland as well, the system is built against home owners in many places.... maybe not so in Canada or other parts of the world in some instances, but permits are unabashedly expensive, unbelievably slow to receive and the departments that handle them really couldnt give a fuck less about you in many instances... i would like to think maybe they are underfunded but with how much a permit costs i cant really see how thats the issue!!! Anyway, i do agree permits are a necessary thing, but It seems only fair to point out how often the system of receiving them and dealing with the powers that be can be stacked so harshly against home or business owners.

[@tomb.8485]

And that the home wiring that is done doesn’t burn the place down. Think of the other people that want to save a bunch of money because “It should be ok”. I honestly just thought you weren’t filming getting the permits as it would be too boring.

[@sweett5896]

@@SirCheese710 agree 100%. While they serve a purpose to protect homeowners, the land & the public, they also serve the purpose of controlling us & making the governing organizations money. Smh. Too bad it's not actually just about safety & protecting the earth.

[@MAYK1NG]

McMansion cessation.

[@shellyb2042]

It’s all about money really if someone owns their land they shouldn’t have to go through government to do anything on their land oh how the pioneers had it easy in so many ways daily life was hard but they where truly free

[@janetmcfarlane2693]

Permits are for safety - lifejackets are for safety - lotsa stuff is for safety....even professionals have to pull permits....

[@yeshuarules8154]

There is a difference between "repair" and upkeep and making structural changes and additions. Hopefully you can work this out. I don't know how you didn't know about needing permits. Didn't Tim even ask if you hired him at first?

[@terri550]

This!

[@janine9115]

Didn't anyone ask them, including family and friends? I just don't buy that they didn't realize. It's building 101.

[@lauryn2099]

In backcountry like this, NO ONE goes through the trouble of permitting because all of the neighbors do their own construction and work. It’s often understood that if you report on people, it comes back around … I would bet they were advised by others in the community that it wasn’t needed.

[@KellyBeth]

I know it may vary from place to place, but other than the outdoor shower and electrical, what do they even need permits for? Like.. cant you get new windows and build a deck without permits? I didn't know rules were that strict and neither did anyone in my family when I just asked them. So.. E&B aren't alone in being confused. I guess maybe changing the size of the windows is what makes the difference? Idk.

[@katelynleigh5610]

@@KellyBeth in my area in the US it takes so long to get permits approved everyone just files it and builds whatever they want assuming they’ll get approved so not too outlandish

[@lauraredd614]

My family owns lake property in Canada and when we mow the lawn we even have to have a measuring tape out to make sure we aren’t within a certain amount of feet from the water. There are VERY FEW things we can even do on our own property because of Canadian laws and property rules. I thought about this every week, I wonder if they have a permit because I know how strict everything is and how fly by the seat of your pant y’all are. Really do love you two these videos are the first thing I watch every Sunday. I hope you can get approval for all the permits and get an inspector to sign everything off! ( also totally know it sucks but it’s not on the contractors to get the permits they should but they don’t have to it’s up to the home owner to secure it. They usually take work where they can get it. Weather there is a permit or not)

[@nancysquyres4103]

I can relate. We have 56 acres on a Corps of Engineers lake in East Texas. Lots of rules and restrictions.

[@akau1340]

I'm sure they knew all about permits and were just going to play the young and dumb card if caught. After all, they stay in touch with Trent and Allie who are all about filming the permitting process.

[@luke_s.3168]

@@akau1340 Trent and Allie are doing a new construction though. But as you said they couldnt of actually thought they could do all that construction without approval from an engineer.

[@pearcey1113]

You telling me that you both didn't know you need a permit for building a house, that's like saying you didn't know the car needed rego or you didn't know you need a licence to drive a car

[@polinakapchits4030]

And all the people who have come worked on the house, their parents, families, etc....how didn't they know? They are just playing dumb. Being 1st time home owners is NOT an excuse. Ive never owned a home and I know you need permits and to follow building code!

[@myplaylists6310]

@@OceanLover1188 really disappointing 🥺 it’s so hard to root for them for so long and see blatant disregards in their character lately 🥺

[@gracem7633]

You're going to need a lot more weight for that dock. If you leave the floating part in for the winter, it will float away with the ice. If not, you're still going to need a lot more weight.

[@sabrinaadbrecords]

When I was watching your initial deck build my dad (engineer) was telling me that the deck was not being built to code. I didn't bother commenting though because you had Tim helping you and I figured he would have filled you in on all the codes/laws/permits etc.

[@IvyRoad]

Quite a few other people commented. I don’t think they read them. I guess you can’t read every comment.

[@_snorkmaiden]

I have also seen comments about the structure of the decks etc. I have no legit building experience but I'm always thinking about how their builds are going to survive winters and the weight of snow.

[@mikaelbertilsson160]

Same here. but hey. im from sweden and we have a complete other way of building. (like drywall, that is not a special practice. like all builders get to learn it but you can be more focused on it.)

[@steven7650]

I stopped commenting but yea as an engineer those decks won't last. Much of the deck build will not hold up

[@_snorkmaiden]

@@mikaelbertilsson160 Yep, same here in finland. I think the nordic countries always build with winter in mind so things hold up longer. Would think that it's the same in canada but maybe these two didn't think about that too much😅

[@GlenAllen]

MNR will often photograph lakeshore and compare year over year images checking for changes that were made without consulting them. People have changed their shorelines by dumping sand etc Only to find out the need to remove it all and return the natural shoreline foliage back the way it was... Permits permits permits.. Top tier deck should be fine, the others leading to the lake level will likely have to be checked & or replaced. The outdoor shower is there a proper drain system??

[@shellyb2042]

Smh that’s crazy if you own the land then it shouldn’t matter what you do on your property government control way to much of everything these days I honestly wish I was born back in the day where you could just pick some land and make it your own!!

[@akau1340]

@@shellyb2042 no one really owns the land, in the States or in Canada. Don't pay your taxes? Then you'll find out who really owns the land.

[@indy2316]

@@shellyb2042 So its ok to build a dangerous deck and electrical system then sell the house to people who will get hurt if it collapses? ok...

[@julierogers1155]

A voice of informed reason, sanity. Thank you. Coming soon: Will Eamon & Bec keep blaming the neighbors OR will they own their own actions?

[@kristinestocker]

There's a lot of hate for the neighbors here, and it certainly would have been nice if they just talked with Eamon and Bec. But the might have assumed E & B knew they needed permits and chose not to get them. That happens a lot unfortunately. The home owner in the end is responsible not the neighbors or even the builders unless the contract states obtaining the permit is their responsibility.

[@YangGQ]

Please do not assume it is a neighbour. There are 800,000 people who know about this building. Assuming it is a neighbour will build negativity.

[@kristinestocker]

@@YangGQ True. Also Eamon and Bec said there were Multiple complaints made - so no one person should be blamed.

[@lovemore4845]

Agree , it could be someone from just watching there vlogs. be careful what you put out on social media. Another tip always , always a permit is required . 🤦🏻‍♀️ Luv these two , and hoping they done it correctly and don’t have to demo there beautiful work . 😞🙏🏻🤗

[@BurntWings]

Wow Kristine you sure have a lot of knowledge about permits too bad someone didn't speak up beforehand that way they could have fixed the problem before they got blindsided!!

[@kristinestocker]

@@BurntWings You learn a lot along the way as a homeowner. I'm in a town house so we have HOA requirements as well.

[@gemmagem257]

Yeah….sorry you guys but this was no surprise to any of us 😀😂

[@sallyc.8962]

Hey, it was an honest mistake. It's fixable and I'm sure it will still turn out awesome! Live, learn and keep on building the dream.

[@gabba5423]

Doesn't matter where you live you always need permits. It actually protects you when inspectors come evaluate the build. Love all the videos though.

[@nichellechristine1252]

Hey! I live out in the Bert (Alberta) and I have my own small company that does design and permit sets, etc. With the pandemic so many renovations have been going on that permits have been more important than ever. So many newbies doing everything solo. Back in the day permits were used a lot less but even if you increase your window size you must get a permit as there are bylaws on how much window coverage you can have. At the end of the day it's about safety (and a lot of yellow annoying tape, forsure) but because you have so much footage of your reno you can prove how it was constructed and I doubt they will ask you to tear anything down. A new energy code was introduced in Canada a few years back and it's added another layer of complexity to how things are done. It's very likely because you have a KZbin channel that you got flagged but even from my standpoint there are some things that I would even gotten a permit, if I were in your shoes...but if I wasn't in this business I would have had no fricking Bob clue... Minus right now there are signs in all of Alberta saying "REMEMBER YOUR PERMIT" lolz! Anyways you've got this. You can get engineerings to stamp your already done work. I'll be okay! I regret not commenting before about permits but I somewhat assumed you had and didn't show the WILDLY boring part. You guys are awesome! Enjoy your dock!

[@adamlocke2356]

It's a sign. You don't always have to be building something. Have some fun - go on some adventures .

[@TheWashingtonPC]

New Skillshare Course:. When To Pull Permits

[@StayPositive050]

On the bright side, you do want to be sure you’ve done everything safely and to code, and that no new structures fail and hurt anyone. A huge component of permitting is the safety component. We care about you two…we want you and your friends and visitors safe.

[@indy2316]

They clearly don't care about safety lol, their dog was constantly biting people

[@proinseasokiellig4388]

@@indy2316 Love the salt,eh?

[@darcinedagley6762]

a very common statement........."its easier to ask forgiveness than permission" of course they knew about the permits, they decided to forge ahead without in order to produce weekly Vlog. they would have had to wait months for permits and variances from the township. also.............local common knowledge that Mosa is back in shelter/other foster care. its posted online that he's up for foster/adoption. he is not in his "forever home" this is after tim tried to yank out porcupine quills and got bit. of course he bit, it hurt. eamon and bec=====your content integrity has been shaken

[@margb8161]

Sorry the construction is on hold guys. I've renovated two houses over the years and made lots of mistakes along the way. Here's hoping any corrections are minor and you are back on track soon with lots of new knowledge under your belts. There's always hurdles but you will get there! Love you guys 💗

[@aprilblumberg9897]

Honestly, I don’t think anyone ratted on you. Every single time a building inspector has shown up they ALWAYS use that exact same line… multiple complaints… hope this helps! Just give them their slice of the pie and keep on trucking haha

[@TheSeper]

Just saying and I have seen it happen to other KZbinrs there are plenty of people on here who would not hesitate to report you. Someone reported Kara and Nate for flying drones and tried to claim Trent and Allie were part of the DC Riots. some are petty and have no lives and want to ruin anyone who does good that is not them. Be careful never share your address online even to patrons. Not even your town.

[@sorchx]

Exactly why I would never be a vlogger. I don't think people should see that much of my life.

[@jazzyg530]

Meanwhile, sounds like Tim mentioned the name of the town where he lives in this video...

[@IvyRoad]

Agreed!

[@IvyRoad]

@@jazzyg530 Maybe don’t highlight that.

[@jobo8281]

Though I agree with you especially with what happened to kara and nate and trent and ellie. I'm actually glad eamon and bec got reported, they obviously live in a sensitive area and should be getting all the permits they needed and I am very surprised that no one told them before it came to this point.

[@lysslysslyss]

super hard to believe no one in any single process thus far mentioned permits and codes, especially Tim.

[@brianlam257]

Maybe they think everybody does something like that and it's all good as long as you don't get caught

[@PaendaTube]

@@brianlam257 you are exactly right, they don't care as long as they get paid. None of the workers will foot the bill for the fines it's the home owners. Hopefully they don't try to set up a fundraiser for these fines. That would be textbook manipulation

[@sj3442]

I was very surprised that you can build on the lake. I live in Europe near the sea and shore is strictly protected.

[@AndrosIslandZ]

My Uncle is an architect and he's always telling me about his one famously inept client, George, who is constantly in trouble with one town board or another. He smoothes the waters, makes nice-nice, provides the town with everything they require, and George lives to fight another day. I echo the sentiment below; hire an architect. What he'll cost is nothing compared to what he can save you in time, anxiety, and fines.

[@Off-Grid]

Good advice but I can't agree with it as I've worked with many architects and engineers. Have yet to meet one that is affordable or is figuring out something I couldn't.

[@nottheone582]

hire a structural engineer - architects are not necessary. engineers have pull with the planning dept. and know the codes way closer

[@aqueousone]

I’ve been wondering how you were getting away with all that construction.... figured you just weren’t mentioning the permitting process. I’d expect complications on the decks and stairs. Best wishes for easy outcomes.

[@Sianothis]

i was also wondering this LOL

[@timwentz4913]

I'd be SHOCKED if those stairs don't get completely ripped out.

[@justinc5356]

@@timwentz4913 Those stairs are coming out for sure... You can't anchor decks with railing spikes... It's a beautiful deck/stairs, but the entire build I was facepalming .

[@donoberley3582]

Love these guys but definitely saw some load path issues, needs to come apart and be done correctly. Safety over time ….

[@debrobisonblundell5491]

Not sure why you would think that you wouldn't need a permit. In Ontario you need permits for everything.

[@dempseydoodle2010]

I was really wondering about the permit thing and if you guys were actually building to code, just thought Canada was less strict then other places

[@Mrsknightful]

Same. I was thinking this the whole time.

[@missheniki]

Canada is pretty strict! A lot of things that are legal in the US aren’t here. But each province is different. Ontario has some pretty strict laws, especially as relates to stairs/balconies/electric, etc

[@Trishpage312]

I thought Canada was more strict honestly.

[@paulcatarino2209]

Canada and Ontario is very strict. Canada has a building code that the whole country has to build follow, and on top of that the Province of Ontario has it own building code.

[@paulcatarino2209]

@@missheniki And snow loads, especially where this cottage could be, if its in the snow belt that comes on of Lake Huron, those loads are twice than lets say Toronto.

[@andrewbauer4597]

I I get permits are a pain, but watch some Mike Holmes shows and see how good intentions make for some bad rookie mistakes that can be dangerous. Looking forward to how this all turns out.

[@jeffvargo1068]

Be prepared...I have seen building inspectors in Rideau Lakes, Bedford and Frontenac TWP make non permitted construction ... teardown and start again...with huge fines ...if not paid....tacked on to your taxes !!!!!!

[@stripeypaw]

Don't think of it as bad news, it's just another storyline. I'm in the U.K. And love watching what you are doing. We don't have a lot of properties like yours so it's lovely to see such a beautiful place. Don't just sit enjoy what you've got . Xxx

[@nataliee3259]

I see a lot of hate towards the inspectors in the comments but I live in a house that had renovations and additions done without proper permits, inspections or zoning and I am paying for it now by having to fix the work and make it SAFE. They put windows in and removed studs that support the roof of the house without a support beam to replace it. I have half my foundation rotting from additions that exposed the beams to weathering. A perfectly built house can literally collapse,burn down, sink or flood if someone does a minor renovation incorrectly. Y’all should have seen it was required within minutes of any research. Shame on these “professionals” that didn’t say anything. I always check that they are licensed, bonded and insured to do work like this. If presenting this information is an issue for them they are shady and you need to move on. But good luck I guess.

[@IExpectedBSJustNotThisMuchBS]

I also moved into a home with a lot of illegal fixes. My building inspector pointed out nothing. But when I went to sell, the buyers' inspector picked up on it all. (The fix was in with my building inspector. I knew the real estate agent and just took his word on who to hire as an inspector - an expensive lesson.) That party backed out and we fixed all that we could without major renovations and then that party made an offer again, knowing they'd have to correct the other stuff. We even had asbestos and didn't know it.

[@TheLaurajlee]

When Eamon and Bec had those huge windows put in I saw the installation crew. They were suppose to havè permits.

[@nataliee3259]

@@TheLaurajlee I was talking about the windows in my house. The installers are not responsible for getting the permit. They are. If you don’t see the permit assume you don’t have one.

[@nataliee3259]

@@TheLaurajlee installers do not equal contractors.

[@TheLaurajlee]

@@nataliee3259 Most people hire contractors so I thought the installer was the contractor. In addition many installers have a contractor's license.

[@beatriscollins784]

Being young is not an excuse, I am 21 years old and I know that (for example in Italy where I live) you have to get permits for everything, even changing the house colour. So don’t say that it’s because you are young and new owners, because you were just naive (ps. You have parents and older friends that helped you building your home, you could have asked their advice)

[@annawho2220]

the thing with permits usually is, that the towns dont want people to build something that just doesnt look good ith the existing buildings (as to not destroy the look of the town) or that people dont disturbe nature too much, so i do thing that you should get the permission, all the best

[@annawho2220]

@@p0stal1987 yeah, true I thought about that aswell, but they didnt seem to have cut down any trees for it and over time the wood will look more natural in it than the freshly cut wood

[@hannahdurkan5942]

I hope all goes well you have made such a beautiful improvement and still kept the integrity of the structure!

[@anneclemitgreenham6808]

Hope everything works out for you both, you've made your cabin look so much better than when you first moved in.

[@builderjack]

The primary purpose of building codes is safety. Zoning requirements protect the environment and your and your neighbours' investments. There is reasoning behind all these regulations.

[@Puglover130]

Yea- but do you think the primary purpose of the squealers was safety? Bet you $100/1 it wasn’t.

[@ErickaWilliamsCC]

@@Puglover130 exactly

[@myshellee]

Eamon maybe there is a course on skillshare on how to square a deck..lol

[@coolfrip]

😂😂😂

[@danyoungs4061]

The mistake was not having the same length sides.

[@listentome271]

It’s very nice your neighbours help you out so much

[@OffGridHarvey]

Im a contractor by trade, honestly the main reason you probably got caught is because you have video evidence of all the stuff you’ve done and probably the inspector watched them :(

[@jeremys6631]

The moment they tried installing drywall is when i knew they didn't have permits. I think its when they start to build the stairs to the lake is when the neighbors was like...

[@Cullens_Workshop]

@@jeremys6631 Yeah I think it was the decks down the hill, more than anything else.

[@sassywolf1]

Do you need permit S for dry wall in Canada? Don't in my country.

[@cheriedewald5282]

Wow - that could be that the contractor saw the You Tube clips. It sounds like they were getting complaints though, and that could be from people across the lake or closer on their side.

[@annemcmeeking]

Yeah I think they just say someone complained as an excuse to inspect.

[@jenniferevans5192]

Incredulous that you didn’t know about the permits. But it has happened and I wish you the best in getting it sorted and hope that you can work it out with the inspectors so you don’t have to alter too much of your hard work. Sending best.wishes from UK.

[@KBG_savyy]

i honestly had this thought last week and was like, i wonder if they got permits for any of this. lol

[@conniemolinar8461]

I just thought you weren't showing or talking about the permits, for safety reasons good call on whomever made the complaint,sad but safety first.

[@TripleXess]

You'll end up paying $thousands in fines. And possibly removing everything you've completed. My Aunt in Alberta installed a car port and a 4th room. She paid $30k in fines and had to remove it. The sad thing was she paid a contractor $22k for the job. He then charged her $11k to demo. She's had a temporary wall for 8 years now on the side of her house.

[@umopapisdn123]

I don't know who made the complaints, but my heart wants to believe that they only had your safety and best interests at heart. Inspections aren't just there for the township to make a few bucks - they're in place to make sure that everything you do meets safety standards and allows you to live happily in your home for a long time to come. Here's hoping some of the permits can be done in a way that doesn't mean taking everything down. Although, I expect things like plumbing and electric inspections will require some dry wall to be removed.

[@kimberlyearly8918]

It certainly would be awful if they had to take anything down outside! I hope that's not the case!

[@egor102]

You can believe that but I say trolls be trolling....:P

[@proinseasokiellig4388]

@liza martin It was probably someone from the township that spotted it in the first place.. Either way, WE DON'T KNOW

[@jeanmarie4368]

Although I understand you are disappointed about having to stop building, it is important to have the correct permits and inspection done. It safe guards not not you, but those who may come to enjoy your property over the years. Your decks and walkways to the lake can become very hazardous if not constructed properly. I have heard you say several time that you don’t know what you are doing, so consider hiring someone who knows the ins and out of construction to assist you. Another note, your insurance company and mortgage company can also have a problem with you doing construction on the property that is not permitted and inspected.

[@jennifersnyder8548]

See In my town if you are replacing and keeping it the same you don't need a permit. The minute you add too or change you need a permit. Usually the contractor gets the permit even if it's inside or outside. I grew up in construction with my dad and grandpap.

[@indobleh]

The way you expanded out from the cabin, adding stairs to the lake - that was going to be seen quite a long way. I'm surprised you got as far as you did before someone complained! Probably chopping down more trees will rattle a few folks as well. Get an architect onboard quick, preferably a local one. Good luck, you'll be fine :)

[@meganpennington343]

If they've chopped down trees, they should expect that local conservation authorities are going to show up soon too

[@e4peace]

I agree, once I saw the size of the deck I knew someone was going to report them. I just thought they already had building permits secured, you guys will make it through it!

[@on_another_level5661]

@@meganpennington343 You're allowed to chop down trees on your own property. As long as they aren't clear cutting, or cutting down preserves. Not sure what you're going on about.

[@rebeccamillmn3401]

I couldn't believe the damage they did with those trees. Just because they didn't like them there. Selfish

[@rainyjelly]

@@rebeccamillmn3401 ? they cut down trees on their own property, which they're allowed to do, for space. i don't like cutting down trees, but they've stated that they plant more trees to make up for it. also, they have a wood burning stove. its cheaper to get some wood from your own backyard than to spend 100's if not 1000's of dollars to get a pile of precut wood from the store.

[@carolynthompson6518]

I was wondering when you were getting inspected- Trent & Allie get theirs all the time.

[@CB-ru2vq]

Half their vlog is complaining about that.

[@kran8569]

I don’t think they watch Trent and Allie. I really find it hard to believe they had no idea they need permits?

[@plien2184]

Also, Trent and Ali live in a different country. Not every country have the same rules/laws

[@nicandtris]

@@kran8569 They are like besties with Trent and Allie - they have made videos together and T&A bought them a coffee maker for Xmas...

[@stevejeffrey11]

in Canada when people are building, or just having fun, a lot of older people who miserable doing nothing with their lives complain and call the cops on them

[@nicolelewonkenobi]

I was wondering how building was going so quickly with the usual permit process...

[@andreamariagrace]

Same!

[@jaclynmccosker]

They seemed so onto things I just thought they knew the permit system really well or things just move quickly in Canada!

[@nicolelewonkenobi]

Especially during COVID when the permit process isn't as usual.

[@TheIregan]

Ouch!!! This has to be super frustrating, I assumed you were in an area where you don't need permitting... I thought about it a few times during the deck build, and then the stairs and smaller decks had me real nervous. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot has to be redone, unfortunately. Try not to be mad about anyone calling it in. Remember it's not personal, and while you may be personable people and willing to listen, a lot aren't. They may also have assumed you had permits to start. Good luck and I hope it's not too many alterations needed.

[@julierogers1155]

Agreed, IT ISN'T THE FAULT OF ANY NEIGHBOR ....

[@janine9115]

It may seem like a huge hassle to get building permits, but if you've done a lot of work without them you're in trouble (at least in Australia) when you got to sell your house and you can't provide the permits for work done. You might think you know what you're doing but the platforms could become very dangerous down the track. The ground moves and that's why engineering advice is needed.

[@QuixoticMe]

Wait, but I'm Janine and use nature photos as my profile images, lol. :) Hi, other Janine who enjoys Eamon & Bec content!

[@janine9115]

@@QuixoticMe What's your actual point?

[@QuixoticMe]

@@janine9115 yikes. I was just saying hello. I thought it was neat to see another Janine in the comments. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@janine9115]

@@QuixoticMe Ok, apologies for the snarky response. Guess I'm not used to friendly people on KZbin : )

[@ginger1011121314]

This happened with my parents and their new neighbours. They were an older couple that just decided to make some modifications to their new home purchase without even realizing they required permits to do so. Initially my mom was a super angry karen and wanted to report them but my father ended up just speaking to them about the process and realized that they just had no idea they even needed a permit to do the minor modifications they wanted. They were totally willing to take down what they had already done and get the proper paperwork and everything worked out. I think everyone just expects you to be an expert on everything and know the risk when there's really no guidance on how home ownership and renovations work. The onus is unfortunately always on you as the home owner/person contracting out to learn everything :P

[@SarahBuyle]

That is so true, what do we actually know before making the mistake and get it pointed out? We as normal humans who don't work in that particular line of work, know nothing about anything and everyone just expects we do. The people who installed the windows should've said something for sure. Or at least asked if they had the permit. Those who reported them without talking to them first are real asshats. Talk first, complain only if necessary

[@explicitlyme7497]

Totally. A lot of people, and rightly so, assume that since they own the property and the home they can do what they want to their property as long as it's not glaringly dangerous. Unfortunately, in this day and age, ownership doesn't mean you have the right to act on your own property. I'm not just talking about building codes because I understand why they exist, but for example, in a lot of states in the US it's not legal to buy some land and just build a tiny house. You won't be able to get permits to build a structure that small if there's not a larger house on the property because it "brings down the value of the rest of the neighborhood" and considered "camping." It's legitimately illegal to camp on your own land for over 2-3 weeks in some states and counties.

[@collarandhames]

Love your gusto, but as mentioned before, as a licensed carpenter, I see a bazillion kinds of wrong in every episode. Sorry for your hassle, but the code protects yourself and future owners from shoddy workmanship. Good luck, chin up, and start fixing. I would recommend not pissing off the building official , be courteous and work with them, or they can make your life hell. Best of luck.

[@AlexLaurie66]

I'm not sure how long those stairs down to the docks are gonna last. Looked like two screws into each side of the tread to secure it and that was it.

[@margaretgallager3115]

Ur probably one of the tattle tales

[@julierogers1155]

@@margaretgallager3115 Wow, Margaret. Alex makes a legitimate point, a thoughtful point. Accusing without proof, lame.

[@Salviamente_Celes]

Taste.

[@collarandhames]

@@margaretgallager3115 never. Not my business to rat people out.

[@michellelucero6654]

I just found your channel from Kara and Nate's channel I love your videos been binge watching since, you're not the first KZbinrs that I've seen people call in and complain about building permits it gets me so upset to see that they do that when you're just trying to make content for us, anyways glad you got it all figured out and thanks for all the great videos can't wait to finish watching all of them ❤️😍❤️😍

[@barbaraspeicher669]

Wow, I was thinking as I watched these videos that Canada didn't require them. One would have thought people you hire would have told you and it would have been part of what you paid for them to do whatever you hired them to do. I'm having a fence put in and that's part of the cost.

[@mandaleemilly6367]

My husband and I are builders and we always take care of all the permits for every job.

[@J1WE]

In some cottage country or some wooded townships, no permits required for alot of things. Its getting more scarce to find though. There is The Outsider channel(Canadian) also another guy with a golden retriever, My Self Reliance channel. They are both in areas its not really required. Both builds are beautiful

[@kathyadair7367]

Love Shawn James and My Self Reliance. He didn't need no stinking permits :)

[@cheriedewald5282]

No. People paid to help with the homeowner’s construction after they started renovating are there just to help - he was not in charge of renovations as a contractor. They asked him for help with projects they already were tackling.

[@J1WE]

@@ChloevK yes, its getting harder and more scarce. Unincorporated places barely exist. I never said you don't need permits but there are places that exist in Ontario.

[@backpacker9748]

My family cottage is in the same Township as yours... make sure you check with the conservation authority too! We had to replace our retaining wall last year. Luckily my mom used to be employed by the planning department there and helping people with permits was her job there. The Conservation Authority opens a whole other can of worms that we are currently facing trying to put in a bunkie. Your top deck and interior renos should be okay because they occurred to a preexisting building but, the stairs and platforms B-Z may give you a lot of trouble.

[@AppalachiaDreamin]

It seems like they're more after add-ons permit wise, it's the same in France.

[@julierogers1155]

Exactly, building on a waterfront is tricky .... lots of environmental concerns. That should be okay with Eamon & Bec though, I am sure they are pro protecting nature, wildlife.

[@riderstrong6397]

Yeah....I don't think they want to hear that just now.....

[@cindy-ml7vo]

@@julierogers1155 they may be pro wildlife people, but the multiple decks may not be allowed

[@justinc5356]

Conservation authorities in Ontario don’t have a lot of patience for people who don’t follow their rules and they need to be consulted anytime you modified the shore line…. Like adding a floating dock…

[@morganuluvme]

What I think a lot of people aren’t considering in this comment section, is that these lakes are sacred traditional waters and lands to local Indigenous peoples. And it saddens me to know that permits were not involved in the construction over the past 6+ months. As mentioned, this is just a harsh lesson and I hope it can be resolved in collaboration with the township.

[@IvyRoad]

@@ChloevK I hope they take time to consider and address this.

[@samanthashoe]

@@ChloevK they OWN the land?

[@giselle8588]

Very distasteful how it appears that there are viewers taking delight from this situation. At least that’s what it seems like reading through the comment section. Any how, beautiful home as always (mobile or not! ❣️) Definitely am sending you guys a lot of love and light!

[@samanthadodd8112]

So let's get this straight, there are people out there who call the inspector on u instead of telling u that u need a permit. Sorry that people have to be like that.

[@eamonandbec]

Honestly, as naive, first-time homeowners I really wish there was more guidance, especially from neighbours. We are the ones who messed up (there's no excuses) but we honestly didn't know better. I agree a little heads up would've been a much kinder way to go 🤔

[@Julia_Berrrlin]

@@eamonandbec did they criticize something specific?

[@ballsyyyy]

@@eamonandbec ah you found the government rat. The only reason why permitting exists is for the town to move you up the list for re-assessment for property taxes and to collect their permit fees - don't get clouded by their 'this is important for YOUR safety' reasoning. Everything you're doing has nothing to do with your neighbors. Good luck walking on eggshells now that you're on the radar of the government ass kisser in your community.

[@rachelk5720]

@@eamonandbec sending you both virtual hugs :) all will work out in the end :)

[@beachesbonfires2536]

@@eamonandbec I was going to say the same. You buy a home and that is it. There are definitely no guidance from the county at all. When someone buys a home especially first time homeowners it should be a requirement to receive info on homeownership responsibility according to where you live. It would work in both the county and homeowners favor. And if the homeowner doesn't listen still then they pay fines. I mean we all get a fine for breaking driving laws...when we know better. But to be fined when you had NO CLUE? Not right at all. Not saying you got fined just saying of you do it isn't right. Time to change that...🤔

[@indy2316]

Another neighbour from reddit: They knew they needed permits, they just figured the rest of the people on the lake wouldn't care, except they are right beside two businesses who fight for permits, and have neighbours who fight for permits to get things done. I'm sure Mr Marrison who has lived here for years would have discussed permits with them, after all he is the one that found the backhoe for them when the deck was built. I don't see this going away for less than $25,000-$50,000 in permits at a minimum, they generally charge $17 / $1000 value work and it doubles as a fine if you didn't get one, plus you cannot modify the shoreline without a permit from the conservation authority here. They think nobody knows they are here, but people talk. Flying drones over peoples properties, noise 24x7, and now they publicly threaten neighbours. Perhaps stop hauling butt down Burns in your Gator. I can see it now.. "Oh you are the one that complained", No, but the list of who probably did isn't hard to find - but it would be pretty big, we have been talking about this locally for some time, it was only a matter of time. The conservation authority here will come down hard on them.

[@laurac42]

Jesus... that's absolutely awful. I'd hate to be a neighbour! :( Where can I find this reddit thread?

[@laurac42]

@@ellenm.4891 Thanks both, I found the thread. Super disheartening to see it all. Been a subscriber for a long time, but after this it seems like their on-screen persona is completely different than real life. It's saddening

[@michellecabral3989]

@@laurac42 ppp

[@LRC5555]

Flying drones over my property as a neighbor would irritate me. E&B, time to LEARN to be a good neighbor. It’s not about you, your youth, your food, your every thought and action. Cut down the narcissism and get down to business. Trent and Allie are light years ahead in the maturity department.

[@jackie8357]

So sorry you have to deal with that, there are a lot of people showing where in comments they responded to questions about permits - so I'm convinced they knew - but flying drones and things and disturbing other people's enjoyment of their property is horrible - hopefully that can be addressed if they stay for an extended period of time - disappointing. I'm also very surprised they didn't care about the land or environment when they did all this

[@wineberryred]

Look on the bright side, you got the dock in before they shut you down. Hopefully you just have to submit plans and have stuff inspected.

[@Skittl1321]

They're lucky they don't have to take it all down. Some places make you do that.

[@jenniviiv]

@@Skittl1321 They probably will have to take some stuff down. The posts they put in for stairs needed to be 48" under the frost line and I doubt they were :(

[@wineberryred]

@@jenniviiv Hopefully they can use some video to support some of the constitution done and can avoid having to take some stuff down.

[@millvalepeeps1574]

Thanks for the smiles and giggles..toes crossed the permit issues go smoothly..

[@rachelclo6305]

I know you guys are disappointed but saying someone is projecting seems a little harsh. Maybe someone is, but the truth is you guys didn’t go about it the right way, & that’s nothing to be mad at someone else about. Live & learn. Hope it gets resolved quickly.

[@ashleigh2421]

I’m surprised that the many professionals who worked on your property didn’t mention that you need to be permitted! Tim, the glaziers, electricians etc. Although they are a hassle (and a rip off), the basis of the idea is to ensure that your house is safe for you and whomever you may sell the cabin to in the future.

[@julierogers1155]

Well stated.

[@dianep3071]

Yes you would think even the realtor would tell you this. Knowing these 2 are first time home owners

[@mariposavioleta9007]

When I worked at a big box home building supply store I'd always throw in the "I'm sure you know but just remember to get your permits" in case they didn't know. 99.9% of the people knew but the other 0.1% were thankful that I mentioned it as our town's building inspector was nasty with not only stopping a build but preventing you from living in the place until everything was all taken care of. But in their defense this came after some multi-millionaire business owner took advantage of the workload of that dept and built their entire home without permits thinking they could get away with it. Of course I'm not saying that's what Eamon and Bec are doing but it happens and I hope that with you working with them they can get it all straightened out quickly and be back on track asap.

[@SesameBuns]

I'm surprised folks who know about building permits subscribed to this channel did not bring it up or ask the question. I'm also surprised that Eamon didn't think about it since his buddy's channel "Trent and Allie" are almost always talking about permits and inspections building their home. Hope they get through this ordeal successfully even though it might cost them a pretty penny. I still think Eamon is a clever person, love him and Bec's ideas. Lesson learned, move on and just end up doing better!

[@dianep3071]

@@SesameBuns who knew you had to have permits to put new windows in. Decking. Ah maybe. What else did they build

[@paulamatthey9878]

You got this guys it’s gonna work out fine! Patience and keep smi”lee”ing! ❤️🌸

[@carrieswain1837]

🥰🥰🥰

[@superlamzi]

You’ll get through this. It sucks and it may cost some money but you’ll figure it out. Hang in there. We are with you guys!