WE'RE Taking YOU to The School of Good And Evil

[@WeRNotAlive]

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[@noipoi5403]

Grew up with this book series. Sophie was done a massive disservice in this film. In the books, she's a genuinely shallow and petty person who believes goodness is just about being beautiful. She thinks she's better than everyone around her, and she deserves to be a fairy tale princess. Her friendship with Agatha is purely an act of "charity" on her part, because she wants to prove how good she is so she'll be accepted into the good school. Agatha is so lonely that she latches onto her, despite her better judgement. Their relationship is much more nuanced and multifaceted in the books. Her descent into evil is much slower, with a proper build up towards her eventual turn. You see her doing these increasingly awful things for selfish reasons, and justifying them because she's good and therefore it's okay. Every time she starts slipping it's almost eerie to read. I could go on, but the gist is that I'm disappointed. This movie didn't really get across how good the books were.

[@eIIedritch]

man... these books were so cool and sophie was such a cool character i get that adapting books is hard, but like holy shit

[@ralseedeltaroon9311]

Damn that's such a good concept, I got goosebumps just by reading this comment, and I didn't even read the books.

[@ahorribleterribleperson]

@@ralseedeltaroon9311 one of my favorite scenes that was ruined by the movie is when her hair got cut in the Doom Room. In the Movie Lady Lesso cuts her hair and she just cries or whatever. But in the Books, a monster cut her hair and also terrified and tormented her. After her hair was cut, he let her go, but instead of leaving Sophie goes back and Dr0wns the monster in a well. The last lines of that chapter was chilling it goes likes "The rules said that 'Good forgives' but that can't be right. Because she hasn't forgiven. She hasn't forgiven at all."

[@vibette970]

This book series was so much more complex than the movie, which was filled with Riverdale “teen speech” and Disney aesthetics

[@marocat4749]

Also the message and showing that beauty actually comes from the inside, i mean actually ing likable, and that being petty and swallow, well look at technically attractive anbut really offputting influencer like ,.. it would even be such a good message to just let sophie be evil but accepitng herself an be less awful.

[@JeevesAnthrozaurUS]

Can't wait to graduate, so I can go to the school of Beyond Good and Evil

[@helix9445]

the school of bed bath and beyond

[@kidkangaroo5213]

I heard that both Jade and Nietzsche have tenure there

[@パガイ]

Much like college in the real world, you find out everything you learned was wrong and based on philosophically dubious foundations

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

We're going to School of Neutral, Good, and Evil.

[@i_Hate_All_of_You420]

Me neither, can teach me how to murder alpha sections.

[@Oshacompliantshibari]

31:07 "The only thing an evil person can never have is true love" As an aromantic, this is where the movie lost me. Edit: I would like to be able to say the word "aromantic" in any context without people tripping over themselves to talk about how Valid(TM) platonic love is. Hot take: people who don't feel platonic love aren't inherently evil either.

[@RubbahPants]

But you can kiss your gal pal! /s

[@canonicallykayfabe]

Yea I guess this proves I'm evil guys 😈😈😈

[@Gibusnipu]

I guess I was evil all along

[@evilira718]

They also never heard about rosemary west.

[@sharkjumpingwalrus6744]

Their trying to act like love can't make you do bad things by saying one form of it is truer than the other. Patriotism is a valid form of love that has compelled many people to violent acts. Loyalty checks all the boxes for true love by being built on self sacrifice, and it has caused people to commit or otherwise contribute to acts that can only be called vile and evil. Edit: Turns out the villain made the rules, so the evil can't feel true love was probably meant to be a lie to pressure Sophie into a relationship. Still cringe if you happen to be on the aroace part of sexuality.

[@Wolie318]

I don't know why I found this so funny but at 22:43 when meg said "the dean of students at the bad school" it immediatly cut to an ad that began with the name of a politican candidate.

[@Ramsey276one]

O M G XD

[@lrose5522]

Them being each other's true love because best friends but they ALSO kiss for real is the most baffling kind of queerbaiting imo.

[@davidegaruti2582]

yeah , that was pretty spineless , ball-es , and pussyless , basically a scrotum without balls , no courage , no nothing it was deeply disappointing as a thing , like i had seen that coming pretty soon , but yeah they didn't ... the movie had nothing basically

[@cutecakes2228]

ikr, and they made them sisters in the third book. the author seems so pro-queer tho so I feel like he was pressured by the publishers

[@everest5718]

In the book it’s exactly the same, and they constantly say “oh we’re BEST FRIENDS. Let’s say how GOOD OF FRIENDS WE ARE.” 100% they were originally meant to date

[@Pebble-With-a-Pen]

12:24 yea that's one of the things that bothers me about the reboot just from looking at the promo material, as someone who read the books it's really disappointing that they refuse to have a conventionally unattractive person as a protagonist, like in the book she's described as having greasy skin and hair, and being bug-eyed and just. Why couldn't we have that character

[@BlindStarLily]

I believe some exact words were: Dome of black hair Greasy hair Thin, ashy lips Big, bug eyes Nails bitten to the nub And what I like regarding Agatha’s appearance is that, physically, she never changes. She still has buggish eyes, thin lips, pasty skin and a nail biting habit, but she learns to love it and herself. That’s why she’s called beautiful later on, because she feels beautiful because she loves herself. Plus, there’s the idea of her going from not caring for herself because, “I’m still ugly, so what’s the point?” to, “I should wash my face and brush my hair since it’s good for my health.” Even when Venessa is described in book three, the exact same descriptors are used as when Chainani describes Agatha, and Vanessa is considered ugly before all the beauty obsession. Agatha is still conventionally unattractive, and that’s completely okay in the books. Hell, it’s even implied that she would make for a handsome man, suggesting features like a strong nose, thickish brows and a square jawline. I understand not being able to find an actress with all of these things, but come on, they could have at least tried. Of course, I have absolutely no issue with casting an originally white character as a person of color. It’s a wonderful thing and should be done more often. I just wish they’d not chosen such a pretty woman for this and maybe instead gone with one who’d at least be considered masculine in appearance since, in book four, Sophie mistakes Agatha for a handsome prince from afar

[@SmilingJack100]

1. Thank you for calling out the antisemtism, it's frustratingly rare for people to do that. 2. I am amazed at how many amazing actors the put in this bad movie.

[@BlindStarLily]

I actually am curious, as I’m dreadfully dim when it comes to this sort of thing, could you elaborate a bit on that and if it was in the books? I personally never picked up on anything in particular and have been tearing my hair out trying to figure out what it is I’ve been missing

[@SmilingJack100]

@@BlindStarLily The short answer is that the goblins, money-grubbing, hook-nosed selfish little creatures are *extraordinarily* similar to traditional antisemetic caricatures of Jews. Like, if you look at old antisemetic Nazi propaganda, it looks quite similar to HP goblins. Therefore the people involved were, at best, terribly ignorant in the kind of imagery they were invoking or purposely channeling it.

[@IsaacMayerCreativeWorks]

@@BlindStarLilywhen Sophie gets evil she grows a massive hooked nose straight out of Der Stürmer. I haven’t read the books so I don’t know what happens in them but the idea of a big hooked nose as a sign of evil is a fundamentally antisemitic one

[@BlindStarLily]

@@IsaacMayerCreativeWorks I see. Thank you for informing me /Gen I really appreciate it

[@sharkjumpingwalrus6744]

My villain gimmick would be honing in on your flaws and exaggerating them to the point where you feel like you can never be good enough. Oh god, I'm the Nostalgia Critic.

[@severalcakes3267]

The thing with Captain Hook is that he would literally rather his son be born with a hook hand than two actual hands, because he finds his hook so cool and useful.

[@vibette970]

I wish the kept Agatha as more of a straight up freak in the movie. In the book the really committed to her being antisocial and strange (not just eyerolling and a long coat)

[@BlindStarLily]

Oh yeah, she was utterly bizarre in the books. Honey literally had two dead birds in her pocket, accidentally swallowed a fairy, pretended to be a roach for a majority of the school year and farted in the faces of a bunch of future princesses because she needed an escape plan

[@TindraSan]

"I'm waking u- *I FEEL IT IN MY BONE DRAGON!* "

[@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong]

Imagine Dragons solo's GER

[@avianly]

This movie definitely was a film! It had actors! And a story!

[@postbunnie]

Oh it absolutely did! I remember watching this just a week or two ago with my boyfriend Nate (before he left for random vacation on the other side of the country…. I hope he comes back soon….) it was so great that it almost felt like we were there! The actors were so great. This film was almost magically cast!

[@postbunnie]

Although now that I think about it I can’t remember anything that actually happened in it

[@Sleepycreature687]

I agree

[@jasperjazzie]

out of all the films to exist, this is certainly one of them

[@randomtree7295]

58:26 !! Why not go in a body horror direction even. In a lot of stories when a character turns "ugly" to showcase their true colours why not twist them in physically impossible ways, have the face swirl on itself, concave or even give the characters features to make her resemble a spider like eight red eyes, a bit generic but it works. Honestly just shows a lack of creativity on their part.

[@BlindStarLily]

Something like that is done in the books. A few characters rapidly age forward, have their backs horribly twisted and hunched, and one of them even sprouts these fucking metal spikes out from his skin all over his body. Yes, there was blood

[@maldonr2758]

I am evil, my evil gimick is that I'm a gamer.

[@olivierluisin1790]

Ah, the most oppressed group of all, gamers

[@TheDanishGuyReviews]

That IS evil. Good job!

[@zombieplush]

i didnt think i needed a diregentleman on fate the winx saga until meg mentioned it

[@ASCZPictures]

I'm not going to watch the rest of it. There's no money you could pay me.

[@henrygalley2831]

This video Jokerfied me

[@jessargo]

A series I love that came out around the same time as this book series is Ever After High. It was a tie in animated series for a doll line, but honestly it's quality goes way beyond what you'd expect. Highly recommend it

[@randomtree7295]

Are you guys familiar with the film Goncharov? If so I'd love to hear you guys's perspective on the film as writers, it has recently gained a lot of fans on Tumblr but a lot of people complain that it's too long. I'd love to hear whether you think it's a case of modern audiences not having the attention span for the film or if it really would have benefited from further editorial cuts

[@Shnyak]

If I were evil... which I am absolutely not, wh- why would you question that?.. My gimmick would be making people rewatch mildly embarrassing moments of their lives from a third person perspective, while I sit in the corner with a popcorn bucket and make snarky comments like "Ooh, did you just call your teacher 'mom' by accident? Dude, you were in middle school!" or "Wow, did you really think she was gonna show up? Girl, she was waaay out of your league, of course she'd get you stood up and make fun of you afterwards".

[@BlindStarLily]

I’d take that one step further and make them rewatch those moments until they’re completely immune to shame and have grown resistant to embarrassment. That’d be for the first years. For the second years, we’ll do sadness, and I’m thinking fear for the third years. After that, they’ll have nothing but joy and rage I- I think I’ve been awake for too long-

[@birdiejett3163]

I’m so excited that y’all are talking about this quagmire of a movie. I still don’t know how I feel about it. Why is Aggie beautiful but called ugly. Why do they queerbait us at that last second. Why is this movie 2 AND A HALF HOURS

[@aidanschroeder4022]

I personally liked it alright as a dumb thing, but here's some answers to your questions: 1. I just see it as unintentional racism because they cast the black girl as the "ugly" one. 2. The entire book series it's adapting is one huge queerbait and that's part of the reason I think the author is kind of a hack. 3. Because the books are fucking massive. This movie could've been 5 hours and probably still left things out from the first book.

[@quaelgeist3337]

"Why is aggie called ugly" racism

[@zrc1514]

@@quaelgeist3337I mean she’s ugly in the book but they didn’t bother with any of that in the movie. The actress is very pretty and they didn’t do anything to her to disguise it so when they call her ugly…

[@eIIedritch]

Y'all should really check out this book, it's a really good source and it's full of the stuff you liked about the movie!!

[@jimboanimations4041]

The people who made this film probably used the DND alignment chart when writing for it.

[@dorfetron]

I was in a lecture by the original author and apparently there's a part of the book with nymphs and water and the situation he puts you in is you need to pee and there are no toilets and one kid said" I pee in a cup" and when asked why he said "cause I like peeing in cups."

[@Kris_not_Chris]

That Imagine Dragons joke was too perfect

[@Monoflower2]

I had a blast with this movie. I mean yeah it runs on Disney Channel logic, but I was having so much fun that I really didn’t care. You can tell that everybody was having a blast making it too.

[@spectra-inventa]

Every movie with Michelle Yeoh is just Evelyn in an alternate universe.

[@theunluckybard7517]

My evil power would be the ability to make money from marginalized communities by heavily implying they're going to get some positive, plot-relevant representation, then pull the rug out from under them after they gave me their money and about two hours of their time. Mwahahaha.

[@__-jt4tv]

44:00 "I'm always here at your side... BUT NOW I'M BEEEEESSSS"

[@jazz-cat00]

Im definitively too ugly to be anything but evil, but like in a passive way. Like, I'm too lazy to actually give a damn about actually _doing_ evil stuff, but if I had, like, an evil colleague that I'd owe a favor to, I think I could hold my own. My gimmick would be shadow based powers, i.e. turning into a shadowy mist on command, blending into any darkly lit environments seamlessly, hiding inside someone's shadow, basically a master of espionage

[@Monica-br8pi]

If I were evil I would have some high concept dark fantasy gimmick. This is also true of my hypothetical wrestling persona: The Oracle! All of my moves would be titled after Tarot cards.

[@mathieuleader8601]

the Nicktoon El Tigre did this idea of choosing good and evil better

[@TheBeesies]

I just found your channel and honestly it's great. I love how honest you are when reviewing shows. I like how you even criticize the parts that you liked of shows and how you understand that flaws in a show are often good things that propel the story forward. So after searching your channel I was quite appalled to see that your only video with the owl house was an April fools day video. I don't know if you still haven't see the show because idk your personal life. But if you haven't I would seriously consider it. Because, like many other shows you have reviewed on this channel, it is a good show. It have a good plot, great character development, and amazing villians. The one flaw I can think of is that season 3 seems kinda rushed, but I can't blame the show writers themselves because Disney cut the 3rd season down to 3 forty minute specials. So yeah, I think that you should at least give the show a watch. (The really good villian doesn't truely get introduced until later in the show, so don't stop after the first episode thinking I lied about the amazing villians).

[@firelordoregano5632]

guys the reason they couldn’t be gay is because the author is a spineless coward and made them canonically sisters

[@necrodeus6811]

NOT AGAIN PLEASE NOT AGAIN

[@Rahbiel_AotD]

You brings up Familiar of Zero and I’m like audibly shouting “God fucking dammit Gus!” 😂

[@bloodlily1203]

The books are kind of nostalgic for me because I read the first couple of them and had such "if I was writing these I would have done THIS and THIS" brain that I actually wrote my own novel about it. I like seeing this video and I hope they make the second book into a movie because BOY. BOY HOWDY. I HAVE THOUGHTS ABOUT THE SECOND BOOK. Also I'd be good but my gimmick is that I'm cursed to have really sharp teeth so I wear a porcelain mask or something fancy like that.

[@BlindStarLily]

Why, hello there, username twin

[@Geo-Tune]

My evil power would hands down be hiccuping acid bubbles

[@mckenzie.latham91]

Sorry but wasn’t the big reveal that the evil brother has been manipulating both sides for years and has been intentionally sabotaging the side of good in order to weaken them? So yeah the superficial “good is pretty, bad is ugly” thing and etc wold make sense.

[@npsheep8811]

The School of Good And Evil is honestly just an Ever After High knockoff

[@BunnyLove5763]

15:19 I was NOT excepting the Familiar of Zero namedrop. Dear god I had so many flashbacks. Another few magic school type anime things that are making the rounds these days are Witch Hat Atelier (though that’s not maybe as school related) and Twisted Wonderland. I guess those might be a bit more niche, but I’ve seen several people out in the wild enjoying these things and not just on the internet, and that’s typically my measure for when something is getting popular.

[@EvilOverlord1662]

I already graduated Evil School

[@Merilirem]

I tried watching this myself but lost interest thanks to the random AF "true love" thing. Like what? It seemed pretty ok until that happened and suddenly it was all about stupid teen romance stuff. Its like I switched moves halfway through. Like I know I don't understand romantic love to begin with but god damn does it feel unnecessary in this movie. Just a made up thing to make plot stuff happen. Who ever said "evil" people can't find true love anyway?

[@---rm8do]

Sure, I'll listen to Kingmaker... after I finish my Malazan re-read. Progressive fantasy fiction ftw

[@Mewobiba]

"We do not desire to employ violence, except in the defence of ourselves and others against oppression. But we claim this right of defence-entire, real, and efficacious. That is, [...] we wish to choose our own hour and field of battle, so as to attack the enemy under conditions as favourable as possible: whether it be when he is actually provoking and attacking us, or at times when he slumbers, and relaxes his hand, counting on popular submission. For as a fact, the bourgeoisie is in a permanent state of war against the proletariat, since it never for one moment ceases to exploit the latter, and grind it down." -- Errico Malatesta, On Violence And Anarchy [And Attacking First Making You Evil]

[@ardenno5172]

i don’t know why, but this was the first book i remember viscerally hating. i remember nothing about it other than i had to read it for my third grade reading list and had the worst time. no shade to the book tho i was seven

[@SmxSonic]

Not only am I Evil... I'm EVIL SANTA.

[@netsukii7594]

I was able to graduate early from the school of good and evil because of a field trip to a certain beach.

[@superboyok_]

Do u know who's graduating from school, prolly the cast of THE OWL HOUSE when the series ends (which it will cuz its on its final season)

[@TheAnonyomusGuy]

Majin Buu proves turning people into candy is scary enough

[@mahrinui18]

I really liked the movie but was irritated by the cishet nonsense in it. Like the school for good is pretty sexist and yet this movie about breaking down binaries doesn't even pay lip service to gender?

[@mckenzie.latham91]

I mean the entire plot is that the evil brother has been manipulating the good side for years in order to make them petty, vain and corrupt in order to weaken them and allow him to get stronger All of the major problems with the schools is becasue he’s been making it that way so that evil can finally win

[@PhoebeTheFairy56]

That's where the sequel comes in

[@popeval6654]

im evil and my gimmick is that th theres too much bread. oh god.

[@Ronin11111111]

I was not ready for the "good" protag to have The Pain(from MGS3)'s powers.

[@fleurcode]

A correction at 42:00 They were wasps not bees

[@fleurcode]

In the book it was Wasps, Bats and Rats

[@fleurcode]

Another correction to the ending. The movie ending has Sophie revive by tear drops from Agatha and Agatha kisses Tedros. In the Book Sophie revives because of the kiss and Agatha says "See ya Tedros" and just goes away as both of the girls smile at each other.

[@quartzossie]

Jokes on you, I've wanted to go to the School for Good and Evil since I was 11

[@DadizzTired]

This movie had some really cool elements but it did the book so dirty. It would've been way better as a series, I think, with actual attention to the nuances between Sophie and Agatha.

[@BlindStarLily]

That’s what I’ve been saying! Normalize turning multi-book series into shows. They won’t all be as shit as Game of Thrones

[@cortomaltese5206]

17:58 HOLLY SHIT I LOVED YOUNG DRACULA

[@dylanchouinard6141]

It'd be interesting if they had the Gustav character didn't want to be a Prince not because he wanted to open a business but instead because he wants his Kingdom to be transition into a Republic. Heir characters not wanting to rule because they don't have self-confidence is tired and boring; Heir characters not wanting to rule because they realize monarchies fucking suck is unique and based

[@onnopleaseno649]

nya? was dis? a new diwegentwmen videowo?

[@I_love_dr_stone]

owo

[@onelovelylilidiot4959]

òwó

[@somenamethatincludesanemob8933]

owo i love you

[@BlindStarLily]

I just want you all to know that my YT registered your comments and replies as another language and asked if I’d like them translated-

[@leon1thelion580]

My gimme could be oblivion where I would summon a dark Sphere and anything that got hit by it was gone forever

[@dazeslays]

i read this series years ago and while i don't remember it too clearly i know there were even more lgbt themes that went unaddressed or were handwaved away. there was a whole subplot about being able to magically switch your sex

[@dominicthompson5544]

Ok litterally the only thing I need you to know is that I got a crypto currency add in the middle of this

[@RedTailedSmeargle]

Holy shit, is this movie about genders? I love it At the witch part: oh no

[@TheAnonyomusGuy]

The only time Hollywood knows what ugly looks like is when they make a hunchback movie

[@inkanddreams4677]

Grew up reading the books, and I had some mixed feelings about the movie. I noticed some of the changes while watching but it's been long enough that some slipped by me, some were easy to notice right off the bat. When watching the movie I can, personally, say that I had fun in the moment. This was a story that I read in middle school and there was something of a nostalgia high that came from the movie existing at all, but as the movie came to it's end and in the days since I watched it, it doesn't feel as good. Without the spectacle of effects or the effort of the actors clouding my vision of this movie, it feels kind of hollow. The books had far more to it in general. I've already seen someone in the comments talking about how Sophie's character changed a lot in this movie, but it's more than just that. I don't think I've ever had the experience of reading a book before seeing it as a movie and being disappointed. I never read the Harry Potter or Percy Jackson books, so seeing those movies didn't affect me in the way they affected the book fans. At the very least I can see where they're coming from now. It's expected that things will get cut when I movie is made, runtime and all that, but it feels like some things were changed because either the writers though it was better that way or to make characters more likable when they aren't really supposed to be

[@jgjg5182]

An entire school based around a single Tally Hall album??? I mean it's my favorite one but that seems like a little too much

[@alexanderdumey]

I haven't finished the video but the true loves kiss is definitely going to be Sophie and agatha

[@henrygalley2831]

Yes, but not in the sense that you mean

[@alexanderdumey]

@@henrygalley2831 Oh yeah, I forgot to edit after I finished that I was wrong.

[@everest5718]

I love the book, and so the adaptation is so disappointing. But i can’t say I’m surprised, I had a feeling things would be this way considering how hit or miss most adaptations tend to be. The books weren’t the best, but they had some really good writing and characters in them.

[@vibette970]

I read the book when I was a young teen, and ended up enjoying the sequels a bit. This movie, while sticking to the plot kind of, aesthetically fails on every level. The book had a earnest weirdness to it, which did not always work, but actually had some bite. This movie was so watered down and pandering. I don’t know a single weird tween girl who would actually like this movie.

[@l.catlett-tetzlaff18]

...didn't Rafal literally kiss Sophie tho???? Did they forget about that???

[@BlindStarLily]

Yes he did, and it’s creepy in the books too and it’s supposed to be creepy because at one point he tricks her into kissing him via pretending to be her dead mother who’ll be brought back to life by the kiss. Yes, it’s extremely creepy and uncomfortable and it’s touched on just how gross it is

[@ThatJellyMan]

I think the movie is way better than the book. Which is... Suprising. But the book was just so long with so much describing and less story, so I find it less interesting. I think the movie made it really clear, but the plot on the books is way better, as always.

[@brandonlewis2861]

Sooooo you guys going to talk about episode 2 of season 2 of Helluva boss or nah?

[@henrygalley2831]

Nah

[@Haverlock]

YA adaptations really do stay losing

[@plaguenurse4399]

Sounds pretty interesting besides the appearance stuff, like not only antisemitism, but also teaching kids that not being like the most gorgeous person on planet earth is a sign of moral degradation is like just so harmful in general yick

[@blakchristianbale]

That’s the opposite of what the message is

[@PaintSplashProductions]

The movie was fine. That’s all I can care to say about it

[@insufferableanarchist]

god i loved the book series, it was so well written. and then the movie existed. fuck the movie. Edit because I forgot about this: Agatha was race bended. she was super pale and chalky skinned in the books, meanwhile the movie had agatha played by Sofia Wylie. she's not a bad actor, but she doesn't fit what agatha was supposed to be.

[@terror_tonic]

yeah i was super disappointed by the antisemitic imagery in this film this kinda thing shouldn't be acceptable in modern film releases seriously

[@chemifan6784]

Do Helluva Boss season 2 episode 2. I didn't like it and I want to hear your opinion.

[@vibette970]

The fact that the bad wizard has a British accent and eyeshadow is both offensive and lazy

[@Gypsygeekfreak17]

Stop being a wokie

[@Lechgang]

Stop being a bigot. You should have some idea how to do that, seeing as it is a real word.

[@Gypsygeekfreak17]

@@Lechgang im a gypsy a minority show some respect ya racist

[@Lechgang]

@@Gypsygeekfreak17 Nice try.

[@Gypsygeekfreak17]

@@Lechgang i am a gypsy im a minoirty so you have to respect me cause you lot love kissing minority ass

[@Lechgang]

@@Gypsygeekfreak17 No, I just don't like bigotry. And I've never met a person who unironically uses the word 'woke' who isn't a bigot.

[@davidegaruti2582]

honestly , i feel like the maker of these movie had several points in wich they had many 5 pronged choices , they ranged from the best , good , decent , boring , terrible ... they choose decent and boring for most of the movie , either in execution or in just choice , the moment wich i guessed where kinda cool , where when the princess girl summoned the bees to defeat the dragon stand (it's a stand you can't convince me otherwise ) of the daughter of the hag ... only they ruined it by having that red caped guy be behind it , it would have been arguably cooler if she actually had princess powers but used them in a slightly spooky way , this kind of cookiecutter eastetic based movies can have a nieche i think , just let them do their magic and don't try to stilt them into what they aren't ... idk , just show us traditionaly pretty and fairy like stuff in a creepy way , and idk offputting things in mayhaps a good way , idk if pg-13 could have had amputations and stuff , but it would have been cool to show a necromancer janitor maybe resurrect the detached arm and reattach it , peraps with a leech to pump blood trough it like it's done irl www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-06-16-mn-7714-story.html

[@BlindStarLily]

That is how it’s done in the books. Sophie needs to defend herself and thinks, “Princesses can call for help from animal friends.” So she’s described as giving a, “Gorgeous whistle,” expecting butterflies or doves or smth and ends up with the wasps, then hornets, then ravens and bats which almost fucking murder Hester by accident. She also later uses this power to purposefully hurt and also kill dozens of people, including literal children. Yes, it’s extremely dark