THEY KICKED AN SPL PLAYER BECAUSE HE MISSED FIRE GIANT SECURE!?!?!

Reacting to the Smite drama of ElLeon getting kicked from his team!
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[@jeanrama]

The level of disrespect and hipocrisy is through the roof. The control Elleon has now is not something i would've expected from elchapo years ago. Wish he gets into a new team and kick their asses.

[@LegitSav]

Bro has really matured. It's pretty evident with this whole situation.

[@willyates6266]

Haddix is a textbook narcissist. Drama queen, too. He constantly contradicts his own words, backpedals and tries to deflect blame onto Andy. On top of that, he literally skipped his mistake ON STREAM. Bro what, he forced his team into an ultimatum to turn them all against him. Haddix literally blew this out of proportion.

[@MarkyBeeeee]

narcissist 100%

[@GunShark0]

Blown out of proportion for sure. It's *scrims*. That's literally why scrims exist, to work on this type of stuff and to build team chemistry.

[@lordmew5]

What school did you go to?

[@Dylano_d]

LMAO the accountability that haddix just REFUSES is actually insane. Props to elleon for not absolutely losing his shit because i know i would have.

[@Dylano_d]

"if i say you're the problem and refuse to take any accountability for my own actions, and you try to challenge me then you are not fit to be on my team and you are a bad teammate." wild.

[@TimeSinkingLoser]

Haddix is good but his personality is trash

[@lordmew5]

​@@Dylano_d, there's no way that's an actual quote

[@Dylano_d]

@@lordmew5 lmao no its not but haddix might as well have just said that instead and saved everyone the time

[@helrazr44]

Haddix is super dismissive and actively ignoring Elleon, the fact that Leon was asking about why Haddix's sunder was down multiple times and completely deflecting any sort of questioning at all tells me this was 100% intentional.

[@kaynoism]

Haddix is wrong here honestly. Haddix misplayed his sunder so them losing fire was because Haddix sunder was down when they could've had two. Not to mention they both had bombs and neither used them.

[@HotBoiFrescaJones]

That and he didnt use or think to call out bomb plays. If haddix's team looses in vegas it is solely his fault for pusing El Leon out over personal issues and wanting to put his noob friend in his place.

[@GodLaxus]

Agreed, but a lot of things could have happened, I love Elleon but he could have walled off the FG, he could have ulted, they could have killed Bellona first then secured.. so many what ifs.

[@kaynoism]

@@GodLaxus I'm not denying any of that. There are a lot of things that could've gone differently but the issue here is Haddix trying to minimize it to seem like Elleon simply got outplayed by Cherryo when it was reduced to a 50/50. When it shouldn't have been a 50/50 to begin with. He's trying to blame Elleon for someone he shares blame for. And then getting mad at Elleon for not bending to his will. And even if it was Elleons fault, it's a scrim. You just fix those problems next time.

[@austinroacher7516]

I agree he had a part in losing fire. Lots of things could be done differently but that's what scrims are for. To see what's wrong and fix it for next time. Andy even said so in his own video and it makes since everyone had a part in fire. The main problem seems to be haddix's contempt for Andy. Haddix should have just maned up and said he just wants to play with his friend and not Andy instead of the passive aggressive comments

[@allste626]

@@GodLaxus The difference is (and the inherent problem here) is that Elleon said, straight up, there's things I could have done differently/better... meanwhile, Haddix just tries to put all the blame onto him when you misused his sunder before FG was even being fought. Haddix refused to take even a modicum of accountability; which is super ironic considering how much he talks about taking accountability.

[@greatvaluebleach7606]

Andy made a vid on it and went full detail Haddix just never liked him

[@messedupperfect9367]

​@@SpookyLewis Or this video was edited and planned to come out today before Andy's video was posted. Common sense is rare.

[@messedupperfect9367]

@@SpookyLewis your comment heavily implied that he purposely ignored Andy's video and made this one. I understand you feel called out and need to lash out, but nobody is glazing. By your own logic, I stated purely facts, it has nothing to do with my opinion on him, try again.

[@messedupperfect9367]

@@SpookyLewis Heavily implies doesn't mean 100%. You could just be super bad at english, and that's okay! However, this is my direct quote "this video was edited and planned to come out today before Andy's video was posted." And that is pure facts, which is what I was referring to. Lets not pretend you care about assumptions as if you didn't assume I was glazing. Everything you say contradicts yourself, it's hella funny and clearly by the likes of my other two comments people agree with me. "keep it moving."

[@messedupperfect9367]

​@@SpookyLewis No, that would have been the correct way to say it actually! Now that we know you aren't completely dumb, just ignorant, we can move onto the other issues with your comment. Your original comment implies that Weak3n is milking content, yet it's him uploading a reaction to the initial drama. Which part of that is him milking content? The correct definition of him milking content would be to split this video into multiple parts, or purposely ignore andy's new video to make another video in the future. You specifically said "he knows about andy's video AND is milking content" which combines both of those statements, and is clearly implying what I said you were implying. Keep calling me a glazer though, I'm sure that'll make your point seem better because nothing else will. For the record, I watched way more haddix than either of them combined before this whole thing, but that wouldn't matter to you.

[@lumineon.]

​@@SpookyLewisBrother no offense, but you gotta learn to admit when you are wrong. And here, you went at someone clearly with a pretentious and ignorant opinion and got called out for it. Man up and be humble, not everything is about proving you're right and your ego.

[@ColeCxle]

I’m here after El Leon’s video. It’s pretty obvious that Haddix just wanted Jake to be the support on their team from the jump and was hyperfixating on anything he could to put Andy in a negative light to make his argument for bringing Jake on, stronger. Literally like a toxic girlfriend I’m dead

[@HookahOtaku]

its sad bro, being a haddix fan this shid is depressing af to see cause it feels out of character

[@bga6189]

L haddix, bro just wanted to snake andy

[@kingxvegeta2370]

Man Haddix really just is in denial this whole time. Andy is 100% a better player than Haddix and even admitted his own mistake and wanted Haddix to understand why he shouldn't of sundered beforehand. Seems like just a pure case of "I'm never wrong, and im the best solo laner" 😂

[@basilisktheory7781]

Seriously, how the hell did not one of the other three players on the team step in? Have a little objectivity for fuck's sake.

[@almightyj6508]

because sheento will ride for haddix no matter what and if they speak up they can risk not being on the team because haddix is the “goat” even tho he hasn’t won for shit

[@JasonFiore-kw5ki]

The "I think we should be double sundering at 2k" is a comment on how to approach going forward. Not a comment on whose fault it was.

[@coreytheloud3708]

Haddix's notion that Andy should just say "my bad unlucky" is the most concerning for the team moving forward. Shouldn't you want to analyze what went wrong in game and how to improve on it moving forward? Isn't that, like, the entire concept of scrims?

[@ColeCxle]

Smite drama has been dead since Gucci and DMBrandon have been out of the picture 😂

[@AB-bx5to]

Ngl sucks to see Andy done this dirty, but man, I'm all for some smite drama 😂😂

[@MrWashed_]

Miss those days, prime funny days

[@Hayssss]

I want PBM and Andy on the same team. Andy just needs a good support so he can shine in the jungle. That's just my opinion after watching Andy for 6-7 years

[@joebloggs2344]

bro Haddix is trolling saying Andy is confrontational, he was straight up blaming Andy for losing a 50/50 for fg for hours after this. Man does not seem to understand what a 50/50 is not to mention he thinks his use of sunder in the fight before was good, are you joking it was a total waste of a sunder and 100% lead to the loss of the fg.

[@cameronbrewer4923]

This sounds so unfair to Andy

[@boogan379]

Haddix is showing some serious confirmation bias here. He had his mind made up about Elleon long before they teamed up and is just trying to apply past events to Andy's current situation. Just goes to show how our biases can cloud judgment.

[@HotBoiFrescaJones]

When Weak3n had to take a minute and walk around the room... I felt that. Haddix the biggest 🤡 fr.

[@Rager47]

You better watch ElLeon’s video and make an updated video on this

[@BlasphemusRage]

On at least 3 different occasions in the post game discussion haddix blames Andy and mentions him missing the secure, and then he condescendingly asks3 separate times if "Andy needs to take a breather. He also mentions "accountability" while Andy said in his vid that he was watching the clip of haddix waste his sunder while they were taking about it post game. Haddix actions throughout the whole thing are clearly goading Andy into confrontation, not taking any responsibility for his misplays but expecting Andy to, while also blaming Andy and condescending to him like a child, I'd say Andy handled it better than most people would in that same situation. Haddix is a bozo and a perennial lan choker, andys probably better off not on that team anyway.

[@QueLoKevin]

Haddix wants Andy to drop to his knees and beg for forgiveness because he lost a 50/50 coinflip hog on FG and keeps deflecting from the fact that he wasted his own hog which is what made it 50/50 to begin with. Gaslighting at its finest. He was just looking for a reason to kick Andy and instigated a fight over his own fuck up to do so.

[@J3ff2424]

I used to think Haddix was cool but holy fucking shit, he gets mad at Andy for the shit that he did. And then goes after Andy and is yelling at him to drop it, when HE WONT LET IT GO.

[@DxtEppieDoe]

You GOTTA watch Andy's video on this. Haddix did him SO much worse than what you see here

[@gibbaygaming8039]

He watched it on stream as Andy was talking about it he just didn't put it in the video

[@antiadvent4878]

Sheento in there sucking Haddix off knowing he was wrong is crazy.

[@JuniorrRey]

Whenever a haddix video popped on my recommended, and i watched it. I could instantly see how annoying he would actually be as a teammate. just the way he speaks and thinks of himself vs others is glaring. Not surprised something like this happened

[@FiruLai-d2x]

real

[@almightyj6508]

solo players got the biggest ego

[@spinal6209]

he doesnt want to play with andy cause andy wont let him bullshit and gas light

[@Ryniano]

Him saying “the team” decides to kick elleon when haddix is the one who made an ultimatum to kick him

[@benwills7343]

This seems like a case where Haddix just wants to put Andy down. Seems like jealousy. Haddix blundered that FG fight. Blamed the support, as everyone does and avoids admitting that he was wrong. Watching the fight where he sundered, he way over aggressed, was out of position, burned sunder for no reason and died. I don’t get that play one bit, but to then call FG, start the fight, knowing his sunder is down and whispering it to his team, got distracted by the Fenrir and drop FG all to blame Andy is WILD to me. Bro should not be a shot caller. He can’t take accountability for his actions and his ego is massive!

[@christianhatch7842]

I would love to see all the dms Haddix was throwing around to the other teammates to sway them over the past few weeks leading up to and after this

[@mastergs32]

Basically Andy was suggesting a way around the 50-50, like turning the 50-50 into a 75-25 for them if they double sunder at 2k hp instead of solo sundering at 1k

[@Jesse2562]

Haddix doesn't like to be challenged lol ElLeon just cooked him with facts and logic, nothing offensive at all; Haddix took it personal. he's definitely wrong for it.

[@pineapple1865]

Haddix just sound like a guy who got his feelings hurt because ellon went against his word and judgment

[@Ryniano]

I would suggest you guys watch the beginning of elleon’s video where theres some more context on how haddix tried to essentially kick him without telling the team before any of this happened

[@rainman7140]

Ngl haddix saying "not blaming teammates " is wild like bro u literally doing that.

[@FlipBoji]

Haddix took it personally when Andy said "we should've double sunder" like it's a blanket statement and partially focusing on Haddix, but it wasn't an attack at least from my perspective. The aftermath was Haddix and Andy both don't acknowledge the bombs they could've used AND also misplaying the sunder prior to fire giant was crucial (but it could be argued that it wasn't crucial WHEN they both had bombs??) when everyone who buys sunder is nearly solely using it for objectives...So why use it on enemy gods?

[@FlipBoji]

Ultimately, Haddix felt confronted and cornered by Andy's analysis for some minute details when they're technically both at fault (on game play) because they withheld their bombs during a crucial game state. Andy did not come off as insincere during the aftermath when going over the breakdown. I think Haddix and Andy should technically both apologies, but Haddix should apologies first for his actions and misunderstanding on the circumstances. Then Haddix dug himself deeper.

[@ImEcchi]

This is why Smite's pro scene is never taken seriously and why a Steamer makes more money than every person combined. Weak3n knows what he's doing, these dudes don't.

[@RealForm3r]

Give Andy his shot Weak3n make a team and say fuck It

[@Schnoidle]

Haddix tried to kick him the week before this happened and wanted to replace him with Jake because he just hates Leon for some reason. He also was telling him “do we need to take a breather” like he’s a child and Haddix said El Leon is being disrespectful 😂😂

[@DrDisemb0wel]

Gotta be honest, idk how you could agree to play on a team with haddix if he's just going to make shit up to kick people off so his friends can join

[@StaleBranflakes]

Haddix is also coming off way too dismissive and the lack of communication and reflection of the entire fight/situation is crazy

[@platinumkujo9226]

Bro ELLEON deserves his chance. This is so unfair. The blame is being miss placed, unless if there are other things that we as viewers can’t see that are being factored in. But if we’re just talking SMITE then ELLEON is a top tier player that understands the game on a deeper level, and is super passionate. Idk what are we missing here. What the actual fuck

[@untastypastry6532]

"I DONT KNOW, CHECK THE VOD" will forever be my excuse when ever i screw my games up. How embarrassing a Veteran SPL player is this much of a baby.

[@Cat_90S]

Hiw is Haddix a veteran? Dude believes he is the best when he never won shit lol.

[@untastypastry6532]

@@Cat_90S he's been in the SPL for like quite a few years no?

[@dagoat-fn9ui]

Worst part is they had double bomb lol

[@jklew9486]

Tldr haddix wanted to play with jake before any of this happened. Now he gets to play with jake

[@skiddikspls1025]

I am Elleon's biggest doubter, but this definitely ain't on him. Bombs aside, there are twenty different timers going off in your head as support. Haddix should have called out multiple times to wait for his sunder to come off c/d. Even then, the fact that Haddix won't take any criticism is inane. He could NEVER team with Cyclone lmao. I watched a similar situation where Cyclone called PBM out for not having shell up for a team fight because PBM got caught out in jungle. He told Mike there was no reason to be where he was and PBM agreed. Both players can do that because they know it leads to improvement. If he just admitted he could've comm'd it better, there's no issue. Tripling down on himself having no fault is insane. Also, I'm sure he would have LOVED to call out chapo not bombing, but didn't because it would be too obviously hypocritical

[@joellakeman3179]

His sunder was down, plus he had a bomb..why was the support the one to secure fire giant? Crazy 🤯

[@oliverbarron966]

sounded alot like haddix was trying to provoke him, the back and fourth between"you need to take accountability" and then saying "idk watch the vod" when Andy asked him to take accountability is crazy

[@oliverbarron966]

Also I love that he starts off by saying "I'll provide full context" and then just talks shit about Andy for 10 minutes, like ya I guess the context is that he didn't want Andy on the team but damn, that's sum school yard shit, like your friends get mad cuz you wanted to play soccer at recess and not grounders

[@oliverbarron966]

Haddix blaming Andy for miss timing his hog by .2 seconds, is like the CIA blaming Kenedy for buying a convertible when they're the ones that shot him

[@miguelalmonte8687]

Lmao damn son haddix down bad cause he can’t be an adult and own his mistake

[@carmeezy8516]

The problem with Haddix telling Andy directly that he’s kicked is that they’re supposed to be ‘equals’. You dont get fired by your coworker. Your boss fires you. They didnt have a coach, so you shouldve used someone else from the team.

[@MrWashed_]

Also had problems with haddix back in the day, I hope he can change a little bit for the better of his teams. But even with that this problem could have been easily solved if people could just take accountability instead of constantly ping ponging.

[@uhhorangejuice334]

Hope Leon starts a new team and frags haddix

[@BlazingCrypt]

LMFAO HE SKIPPED HIM HOGGING

[@BrokerLower]

"He has 2 jobs and I only have 1 job so he is bad"

[@OtterrChaos]

Haddix has clearly just shown he's not a good teammate lmfao

[@OtterrChaos]

Haddix should have been the one to leave. He's just over here trying to gaslight people, it's so toxic.

[@Someotherguyg]

Haddick is just a snake.

[@ken5040]

The best part is those that know why Haddix Sunder was actually down 😂 The whole FG fuck up was on him

[@xodiac-gg7049]

"Wat are u arguing about" I dont even think haddix was present in that conversation 🤦‍♂️

[@WhiteNegative]

So HE isnt committed enough but "were chill all you have to do is be top 8?" That doesnt sound like YOU are committed

[@RamzalTimble]

I've been in Andy's shoes before but in an MMO. I was constantly called out for any mistake I made while the healer was too busy doing damage, my tank partner was not doing the damage he could have been doing if he practiced more and one of our DPS would take an HOUR out of raid time just trying to talk through mechanics he never understood. My mistake was that at times, I'd mistime my mitigation as a tank on auto attacks. Which I admitted that sometimes that happens. Only then for me to be removed from the group because those three straight up just didn't like me. The kicker? They replaced me with someone better who straight up told them they're trash at the game and wouldn't be able to achieve their raid goals. XD Andy will be fine but god help whoever plays with Haddix going forward.

[@patrickwitek]

it'd be fun to see you react to Andy's reaction, he posted it a couple hours ago.

[@atljessie]

Sounds like you gotta do a Hayzer-style interview w/Andy 👀

[@karnifeks5426]

Andy (el leon) is imo the best player in the smite scene period.

[@JordanyS.]

Haddix done lost his marbles. Tragic to see.

[@jorgefigueroa885]

Haddix is just gaslighting Andy. Haddix is a straight up a narcissist

[@00dreamer00]

haddix lying about him telling the team to pick between him or andy is wild too. dude literally told the team if he has to play with andy hes going to mute him what a fking child

[@antiadvent4878]

Haddix said Elleon only shot calls noobs. His SCC team beat 2 SPL teams last year. Not to mention NNog is their current JUNGLER who was also on Elleons SSC team.

[@mosesjackson5731]

None of this would’ve mattered if they actually waited for the waves to crash on phoenix before pulling fire. Pulling it before that happens is a whole team troll.

[@JACKWEASEL]

Honestly I feel like zapman should have been kick! We all know this is somehow his fault! KICK INCON AGAIN! Thank goodness we have Weak3n at times like this!

[@StaleBranflakes]

man that streamer was unbearable to listen to, unfort weak3n had to watch his vod lol

[@qwwupp4763]

who screammm? 🤣

[@Cl-lR0ME]

was thinking the same thing

[@onlyshelton]

Haddix saying that Andy is deflecting is him just deflecting the real issue of him never wanted to play with him, and finding every opportunity to kick him… unfort

[@ryanhect5224]

hate when he says "if he truly believes we couldnt do it without 2 sunders, he is def saying they had a way better chance at securing it with 2 sunders

[@damageaztro]

I can honestly see what haddix is saying, but he did contradict himself a lot. It's very apparent that he just didn't wanna play with him from the jump. Passive aggressive, i think his judgement was clouded cause he didnt wanna play with andy tbh, hope he figures that out cause ive heard that haddix is a pretty chill dude from multiple pros.

[@adamlannerd1408]

Typical Zapman play, 0-4 with no damage.

[@SloppyAhnus]

I don’t like when people don’t take accountability ability… but my sunder wasnt a bad sunder.

[@ryanhodges5597]

So haven't played much smite 2 but is sunder and HOG the same in Smite 2?

[@zeleony05]

Haddix is the type of introverted that he believes people understand why he does what he does, but has a whole explanation for why people do and say the things they do. Whether out of context or not.

[@NickTheHokage]

I haven’t rode a bike in years but I can hop on and ride no problem right now. A top player who has played smite for years taking a break for a couple of days will not negate years of muscle memory. All that would happen would be a little rust which can be fixed in 2 games.

[@lockekosta9014]

Well, now everyone sane knows Haddix is a massive conniving passive aggressive gaslighter. Hyper manipulative. Does everything he blames other people of doing to throw the attention off his own behavior. Classic. That "I kicked" Freudian slip at 58:48 was hilarious. Knows exactly what he did through all of this.

[@alaineninmah7040]

Smite 2 not even fully released and we already got drama in a community of less than 1.5k people is insane. SMITE 2 you can literally press tab and see your allies relic cd.

[@gambeano]

This is how it was in predecessor like focus on making this community bigger first bruh. Corny af

[@AlphapackSmoker]

Bro say corny😂

[@brunch.]

After seeing Andy’s video its clear haddix was in the wrong.

[@emzyLovelyxoxo]

Damn scream coverage. Im glad he went over this.

[@OneLargeFarva]

can confirm haddix is a bit of a baby, dude rage quit in a ranked game , faked a crash on stream we were tied in gold and kills at the time

[@captaincc2735]

He has huge red flags with his communication. Massively defensive and very shady. This is not a person I would ever want to communicate with. I would rather someone be an a-hole, than this manipulative behavior.

[@sethstod1]

So are you going to start an SPL team with Andy! Lets goo

[@emzyLovelyxoxo]

Andy is such a good player! He deserves better❤

[@platinumkujo9226]

Fr

[@Bikkockungus]

Haddix's mindset is immature in some points. He's still young.

[@allste626]

He is a full on narcissist.

[@Bikkockungus]

@allste626 relax. Narcissistic personality disorder affects a small amount of the population. He's not a narcissist, just immature.

[@Samuel-lq7kp]

22:58 I believe they were complacent, Kurt. The fact they are not willing to intermediate speaks volumes of the people involved. They didn't want things to get better.

[@BlazingCrypt]

Just starting the vid. But screams attitude starting off is hilarious. I mean this in a good way

[@GunShark0]

Scream is funny as hell imo. 😅

[@BlazingCrypt]

@@GunShark0yeah I actually didn’t know Imma go follow scream😂

[@TheMcmoosle]

I think before they pulled fg they talked about bombing a phoenix or something

[@jtuuc]

Haddix just don’t fw Andy

[@ilikemydogsally]

I don’t follow smite Meta too much but when did mids stop securing objective?

[@_0tt0matic]

You can tell haddix never played sports n I fw bro smh

[@chrissoto914]

Haddix calling Elleon the guy who rallies noobs is disrespectful when nnog is from a team Andy put together and went to worlds. Being overwhelmed with emotions and angry about having to take accountability is embarrassing to see. L Haddix

[@Fasar20]

Lets go for smite drama❤

[@GunShark0]

Also... I'm with weak3n on this; "why is no one talking about the bombs???!?!?"

[@lailaizhen1]

Not even a glims of selfreflection from haddix here.....WOW

[@AwesomeAlt69]

Every vibe i got from haddix was always off and from what i watched i always felt SoT FineO and snaddyy was better so luckily more of a reason to never watch him and hope andy shit talks haddix in the future if he wins worlds. This is why i only watch weaken and a few others and not some others because he wont be like this fake ass snake haddix here

[@Indeego26]

Honestly just listening to haddix's voice telling me anything would have me crash out

[@reddeano]

25:50 old drama into new. Never change 😂😂😂

[@AJ_Ol]

Scream gotta stop talking like a frat dude 😂