"Type Beats are RUINING music" 😭 (Producer Hot Takes # 4)

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[@DodgaOfficial]

I disagree about nobody noticing compression and other subtle effects. They may not be able to say "omg I love the compression on this track." But the cumulative effect of all of these subtle effects like compression and saturation makes a huge difference in the long run and is really what seperates an okay mix from an amazing mix, and possibly even a good song to an amazing song.

[@ProdKodaa]

I don’t understand compressors like why wouldn’t you just change the volume of the sound?

[@DodgaOfficial]

@@ProdKodaa its not really about adjusting the volume, it's about adjusting dynamics and transients. Transients are the initial burst of audio that happens say when a drum sound hits. With a compressor you can emphasize the transients to make it more snappy. You can bring out more detail in audio that would be a serious pain to do manually, if you have an audio clip where there is a lot of range in dynamics, meaning some parts get quiet and some parts gets loud, you can use a compressor to make the quiet parts loud and the loud parts a little quieter to make it more even and more audible. Doing that manually would be a pain, especially for like a 3 minute vocal, so a compressor is there to help you achieve that. Its not really for adjusting volume how you're thinking, you wouldn't use a compressor if half your vocal was overall one volume and then the last half was quieter, you'd just adjust the volume on that, it's more about the overall sound after you've equalized the volume.

[@ProdKodaa]

@@DodgaOfficial oh thanks man 🙏

[@prod.tahbeats3843]

underground scene starting to become like the mainstream industry. Everbody jus biting everybody hopping on trends and jumping on waves and shi instead of trying sum new stuff. shxts depressing fr

[@billysanchez-eh6nn]

Depends on the genre tho

[@babyzorilla]

Type beats should be regulated to the 3rd circle of hell

[@Julestrada]

i have your ip adress

[@itsrelativ3967]

There should be leagues or ranked divisions for music producers and where they can upload the beats. Type beats should be like novice/rookie. Then intermediate is your own sound. After that could be veteran status showing real placements.

[@superhobo500]

@@itsrelativ3967I like the idea but the problem with this is they’re plenty producers making type beats that have placements but I wouldn’t consider them vets. Maybe a ranking soley based off peers thoughts on your beats??

[@phenfen9439]

Definitely a Reaper loyalist here. I definitely see what you're saying about the plugin UI but keep in mind this is by design. The installer is a microscopic 15 MB for example. I do love eye candy plugins and interfaces though and have plenty of third-party stuff but I personally wouldn't change the ugly UI. Plenty of eye candy options that I like their priorities.

[@rundajulesproductions7735]

If I close my eyes I hear Tina from Bob’s Burgers when you talk. I don’t know why I’m closing my eyes while you talk, though.

[@Weaverbeats]

I'm not sure if this is funny or if I should be mad about it

[@rundajulesproductions7735]

@@Weaverbeats Feeling ambivalent is usually better than feeling anger. I like that you leave your options open! Dan Mintz is the man who voices that female character. I think it's just a similar cadence and delivery of humor. No disrespect intended.

[@CantStopMeMMA]

@rundajulesproductions7735 This comment is timeless 😂❤

[@alligned.6799]

Can say that when people have hired me for beats, there’s a good chance they’ll hire me for a “so and so type beat”

[@fairplay8132]

the way you went about describing "the inspiration bar"........ yea, i know those feels

[@heywoodjablohmei5324]

Dude that was great. Genuine answers, all killer no filler. I'll be watching!

[@divisionmonarchy]

I used Logic and Ableton for years. Then I switched to Bitwig and have not looked back. It’s modularity is unmatched, and the ability to nest stock fx within stock fx make for limitless fx.

[@jfifthb]

Pro Tools died to me when they introduced the subscription service

[@Weaverbeats]

agreed, i mean i was never a huge fan of the workflow personally to begin with anyway though.

[@jfifthb]

@@tlntlssmusic true but I believe you have to get the perpetual license through a third party now. Avid doesn't sell them anymore I respect pro tools because of the history of their software/hardware but unless you're already at the top it's not the standard that it used to be

[@Zorax2144]

Use reaper to mix and to house your paid plugs. Shit's absolutely fantastic and has functionality literally not found in other daws. I don't use the stock plugs tho, they're not even intuitively set up with the fx parameter ranges, and they're known to have bugs. If you don't have a nice plugin collection, use a different daw, but if you do, hard to beat reaper when it comes to the mixdown specifically.

[@justinwilliam4644]

Yeah man, i def need to listen to my music in headphones and speakers, detail in phones but overall sound like lows and highs contrast through speakers

[@maricorp.449]

fuck we really need a Weaver Beats Arena

[@Weaverbeats]

the discord is close enough

[@lunagramrecords]

yo i need that dog odor elimanator ASAP weaver. get that bag baby

[@kofing123]

I took a break from producing for a few years and then the pandemic hit and I got back into it and I couldn't believe how big type beat where. Thought about getting into it to get out there but I couldn't bring myself to do it I like to create

[@Weaverbeats]

i feel that, i just label my beats that fit a certain type sometimes, but i dont seek out to make them personally

[@Lhoyte1]

This comment really doesn’t make much sense. Type beat producers are creators and there is as much varied level of creativity in the pool then in any other lane of producing. There are super creative producers and ones that just copy , like anywhere else

[@itsrelativ3967]

I just label the beats with the mood, a photo that matches the mood and BPM. Keep doing that and it may bring the right kind of traffic. I quit doing type beats in 2020.

[@kahyui2486]

Lol. I make whatever beats I like and just label them as type beats. Just make what u want and upload it as type beat. Anyone who switches up their whole style just to sell beats is not gonna last anyway. In terms of sticking to a style, it doesnt matter if ur making type beats or not... Having a niche is always gonna work in your favour Why not take advantage of it? It's free n could possibly bring u new connections and money. Why not.

[@Super-id7bq]

Check out Pettinhouse for guitar emulations, they're pretty insane. Shreddage is decent too but I feel Pentihouse feels more dynamic. The creator often sells them pretty cheap during sales too.

[@SpeezyOTB]

Remember years ago I used to do Drake type beats when it was fairly niche on KZbin around 2012- 2013 but after doing some experimenting it’s hard to get the same traction are used to get back in the day now so I don’t even upload type beats to KZbin. Wish there was a better naming scheme for BeatStars and youtube cause sometimes I feel like doing type beats is corny but then again you always hear stories of artists literally looking up their own name with the type beat and finding a record.

[@nononoohfuck]

Do both. Its about marketing bro, release organized uploads of type beats in a collection drop and then also release "unique" (or marketed to be so atleast) beats and build your brand off that.

[@itsrelativ3967]

You mean when it was a new niche???

[@baltimega]

I really need to remove pet odors from my house.

[@Weaverbeats]

nice, we got one

[@AAllinsonNN]

Same bro.. my dogs have their own bedroom and you can tell… dogs live there 💀

[@drfluffy3983]

Bitwig has many good points that make it so creative, after plugin Latency compensation, plugin sandbox just to name 2 what makes it much better than Ableton in a Live situation and also doesn't wrack your nerves in the studio that much

[@alexbondeson2931]

gotta love that mike jones beat in the beginning

[@smellymala3103]

Really cool workflow thoughts 👍

[@Weaverbeats]

thank you

[@smeeh1007]

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[@NewMateo]

on subscriptions the Kilohearts subscription is a really nice sub - Since they give you a 100 dollar voucher every 12 months it takes like 7 years to overpay as opposed to just buying phaseplant or the plugins themselves.

[@tilda140]

The more I see your videos the more I like you.

[@Weaverbeats]

thank you

[@OfficiallyMaidenless]

Why does Reason get so overlooked, it's such an amazing DAW

[@OlafFinkbeiner]

BITWIG: amazing modulation and automation new fx are great. i would say it is almost more of an instrument (drum computer) and not so much of a classic recording daw ...

[@AikiraBeats]

My take on the protools is that I’ve tried for five days and it’s so confusing compared to abelton and Fl studio, which is the combination that I use.

[@chrollo7102]

would love to see you using that console behind you ✌🏻

[@justynwclark]

“I agree, because if that were true, unison audio would be top of the line.” Har.

[@qtippz]

Try Orange Tree Samples for Guitars. Some of the best out there.

[@LoveItDirtyOffroad]

Logic runs fine recording 15 mics on my kit. Just gotta hit that low latency button and turn off all plugins just to be safe even on my mac studio. Sucks getting a good take and it sounds like an 8 bit nintendo game

[@waris4thewealthy549]

This dudes a character…entertaining, interesting, reasonable feedback, kind of wish I was still drinking🤔👀 “not”🤨 subscribed…🤣💯

[@drrodopszin]

When you have 30 minutes at a night (from work and family) then you don't want to spend 40 minutes tweaking effects from free plugins only to realize that it does not click with the song. I really-really love UJAM Retro for instance and the free Micro just to have very crazy ideas tried out without losing my big picture.

[@bobbyculdesack2309]

I cant stop listening/watching your videos.. why?? Lol

[@billysanchez-eh6nn]

Same hahahhahaha

[@hapleymusic]

The Kilohearts subscription is good. $10 a month for a year, get $100 in store credit after a year so you can buy the plugins that you liked that year. Feels rent to own and I'm down with that (i also loooove PhasePlant)

[@joeasybeats2083]

Studio One should be the new standard it's the best of all the D.A.W's it's like having Protools/Logic/and FL all in one place you can drag and drop most anything theres really not way to get lost in the sauce the only problem I ever have was switch to the M1 Mac but you should be able to run in Rosetta but never had any problems on PC

[@ErickMcNerney]

Reaper is pretty awesome. I don't care how it looks. You can customize it too.

[@maricorp.449]

i feel you on the headphone boost on the hihats. checking in a car im usually like damn these hats and snare are loud af

[@__cal29]

Same here, I have a habit now where I always turn down my snares and hats by a good amount before I even do a car check.

[@donnydarko7624]

A lot of professional studios use logic too. Go look at all the Apollo stuff that that pro studios bought before UA had any products that works with Windows machines. I think the biggest reason people still use pro tools the time code for movie scoring

[@superhobo500]

FL has something very similar to time code i believe

[@Harpsea]

As long as the end result is fire who cares what you are using.

[@Weaverbeats]

true

[@nascencecatstare]

What if you're using unison drum m

[@AdamElteto]

I would say for post production Nuendo is pretty solid instead of PT, but Nuendo also has all the Cubase functionality for music production. PT is not really a composer tool.

[@infergnojinn7745]

Key point. Don't listen to anyone just make music you want to make. However you want to make it. Steal if you want to steal. Life is not fair neither is music making.

[@PurpleMusicProductions]

Nice video. I know I'm about to tell my age, but what is Dub Step? Lololol

[@trevor_mounts_music]

Reaper is for power users - I have everything customized just exactly how I want. If it looks ugly that's on you bro-ham

[@mudi2000a]

My biggest issue with Reaper is that it has too many settings for some of which the default is crap. However I still like it because it opens up super fast and the editing capabilities are actually very good.

[@Nightowl427272]

IKR? The mouse-zoom feature alone is a disaster out of the box. For the life of me, I’ll never understand why they leave it this way, it’s entirely counter-intuitive. It turns new users off immediately.

[@themadsamplist]

I use AAS strum for guitar sounds.

[@bobbyculdesack2309]

57 and 58 are the same thing, just has a different capsule cover. Almost positive theyre the same exact mic otherwise lol

[@sustenance6267]

Hi Weaver. I'm in the market for a pop filter, the ones on amazon smell like cancer, I was wondering what kind you have, imagining that it smells tolerable. Thanks.

[@Weaverbeats]

Haven't run into this issue, mine is from amazon also. I think anything foam does have a bit of a smell at first but it subsides with a little time.

[@DurrtyRBeats]

Fl Studios FREE Flex plugin is my go to for my guitars now,

[@jshstuff]

flex is awesome

[@Alckemy]

Why wasn’t snap heap or multi pass mentioned for building effects racks to OP

[@Weaverbeats]

true, thats a good idea because of how customizeable it is

[@fonqstarr3636]

agree. Studio One IS the G.O.A.T. Daw .💯💯

[@nizzotheartist]

You can make beat in reaper if you pass the 5000 sampler . And us saroto sampler . Drag and drop your sounds from the Splice app in to saroto sampler . For your 808,s use sub lab that way you can mix and tone your 808,s inside of sub lab . And you should be good

[@Nightowl427272]

SubLab is excellent, Serato Sample is too. I use an 808 hi-hat sample in ADSR’s Sample Manager along with Reaper’s JS MIDI Repeater to make a free Hi-Hat Machine like Thenatan Hatz…it’s awesome.

[@nizzotheartist]

@@Nightowl427272 Cool . Im gonna rey that out .

[@OlafFinkbeiner]

i tried reaper and one thing i think is cool: you can edit the audio while it is still recording. If you ever recorded voiseovers or spoken word you would love that... (But for beatmaking of sound design... naaaa) It is a great recording DAW for slightly nerdy people.

[@djsusan00]

Happy first of the month, lets get this bread. edit: HE SAID WHAT!?

[@Meutecee]

Ask Polarity Musik for Bitwig, this guy knows everything about Bitwig!

[@mcstrakka]

UR a God fam. Can't thank ya enough.

[@Weaverbeats]

i heard god does tutorials!

[@chiefblanko]

Beaver Beats

[@st33Npuist]

I stopped using Reaper, but on fire with it now. Work harder. God also use Reaper

[@Zvrra]

I still use Sausage Fattener I bought it like a million years ago.

[@drewbrown3116]

type beats really depend, some just go for the average, some go beyond for creativity (or even show a certain respect for the kinda music it was based on if given in the details if I hear so in it), some just really stand alone and should be left alone because it's too worth being rhymed on. Also in addition weirdly, it do be unsubtle what it rips off so I commend the honesty like that XD

[@superhobo500]

i agree, it really does depend

[@Beatsbasteln]

the things you mentioned about bitwig are all true. but there's even more to it. 1. routing is way easier in bitwig than in most other daws. you can basically put signals right in the middle of some effect chain without having to make that a group or a bus or stuff like that. multiband-container, mid/side-container etc. makes things really easy 2. you can modulate every plugin parameter, across all plugins of a given effect chain with multiple modulators and there are a lot of them. that results in a workflow where you tend to go crazier than you would in other daws.

[@lawinter1949]

If I want to have fun making music I use bitwig. Its just more fun than any other DAW I have used. Now if it had a couple of the non-sexy features that some older DAWs have then it would be the only DAW for me but.... I still have to use Logic for most projects because the audio recording workflow is just better and more stable so I don't lose things if I make a mistake or forget to push record or something.

[@Beatsbasteln]

@@lawinter1949 totally. i was a cubase user for most of my life and i'm totally missing stuff in bitwig, like an easy to use track freeze, offline processing effects, and audio editing with less cognitive load all the time. but still. bitwig is my favourite daw

[@lawinter1949]

@@Beatsbasteln What do you mean by cognitive load?

[@Beatsbasteln]

@@lawinter1949 it's hard to explain. but when using bitwig's audio editor you can kinda switch between 2 different grids. one is relative to itself and the other one is relative to the whole arrangement. on top of that every corner can be dragged and represents a different aspect of dragging audio. like some are shifting how long it would be if it was a loop. and some are actually making the segment longer in the arrangement. and some do this and others do that. it's a lot. i have not learned it all yet so i still have to think a lot about it when using it

[@lawinter1949]

@@Beatsbasteln Ah I see, Its that everything is contextual and changes depending on what window you're in or what type of clip it is. Just keep doing it because once you get use to the workflow its hard to go back. I had to change Logic to act like this once I got used to Bitwig. Its because the creators of Bitwig wanted to reduce the amount of menu diving so they put a mouse hover spot of button go into each mode. Its actually the most intuitive work flow out there once you get used to it.

[@superdopesamples]

Reaper makes my Mac look like I'm using a PC 😆

[@Weaverbeats]

lmao

[@tutengenezemuziki]

I couldn't hv said it better

[@MrIIXI]

Studio One Gang!!

[@Sneakycat1971]

Most beat makers making a living off music are making money from other people who will never make it in music. They are like drug dealers making money off drug attics. The companies who sell vst's are the same . My advice is to think of this as a hobby that might pay dividends. Don't bet your future on it .

[@GG-zv9ku]

I do enjoy Studio One a lot

[@cfpradiocreationsfredetpie8120]

Hi all Huge PC, desktop, laptop, who cares. Personally my last PC laptop is very powerful compare to my old huge tower PC. On my side, I use Cubase. This is not because I pretend that this DAW is better than Ableton, FL or Bitwig, this is because I use it since 25 years and it's more a question of workflow. There are great songs out there composed with Ableton, FL and other DAW, I don't think Cubase is better but I still use it. Same thing applied for plugins. When I play with formant on vocals, does alterboys sound better than Waves vocal bender or stock plugin in Cubase? The three of them have different quality and I use all of them depending on what I want. The fact is that I loose idea or concentration quickly, I need to go fast and i use tools that permit this. Probably, if I were new to music production I would have choosen Ableton because Cubase is very complicated at a first glance, but today it's the reverse process I can't use Ableton because the change of workflow is too complicated for me and I do music for my pleasure, with not enough time to learn another daw. Sorry for my poor English which is very terrible 😂

[@Smooth219]

100% agree with the sm7b comment

[@madeINaBATHtub]

Idk. Making Type beats and original style beats seems like the only marketable approach. It's way harder to shop my left field stuff and my fiends who don't do type beats still sound like metro boomin or cash cobain rn anyway, they just don't label it as such.

[@LiamDTurner]

💪💪💪🔥💪💪💪 Cakewalk...gang? Cakewalk club?....I use Cakewalk 💰

[@mechamussolini]

can i ask what you mean by reaper being better for audio routing (in your use case)?

[@Weaverbeats]

by putting reastream on the master i can send audio from my daw to obs directly without changing the driver.

[@pedromaiz88]

In my experience, routing in reaper is just really intuitive. In comparison, some DAWs (like Cubase) are needlessly complicated, overly restrictive, and setting everything up takes considerably more time.

[@shaynsnyolo]

100% Agree

[@TheAllansee]

What guitar kontakt library do you use?

[@Weaverbeats]

There's a few I use, off the top of my head I like the session guitars and the odin.

[@TheAllansee]

@@Weaverbeats Ah okay thanks bro. I use the Ilya Efimov ones but I wanted a bank that has a realistic Strat on there.

[@maplefoxx6285]

Not gonna lie, it took me 8 months to fully learn Reaper. It is fully customizable, the whole DAW has new skins you can change the entire appearance now. Tukan Studios makes us free plugins that look much better than the stock stuff, they are comparable to Waves products and he has 20 years or more experience in the industry. The scripts and customization are what make it awesome. The articulation program called Reaticulate is the best for any DAW, I make my own custom articulation banks for my orchestral libraries, I cannot do this in any other DAW. Not this detailed, not even close. I learned this from someone who makes music for video games and anime who uses Reaper. I follow a lot of composers and they all use Cubase and i worry about them not having this kind of power. They don't know what they are missing.

[@Weaverbeats]

from my experience with it the scripts are great, its cool to hear about all this other stuff too though!

[@rekayrovera]

Oooooh my take didn't make the cut😭😭😭😭

[@chuckwagon5518]

I would posit that anyone that has time to go online and argue about silly things like microphones, isn't really all that busy anyway.

[@Nightowl427272]

I’d add iOS vs Android, Mac vs PC, Ford vs Chevy, Lebron vs Jordan… Wait, scratch that last…Jordan all the way. 😉

[@clarenceamis-mdh-8138]

This is a question for Weaver and all, What are the best headphones to get near monitor sound for someone that lives in a 1 bedroom apt. and has had the Police called multiple times and 2 warnings from the rental office. LOL

[@jshstuff]

Good question. I've been happy with my dt990/dt770s for the past few years. What's the consensus nowadays?

[@clarenceamis-mdh-8138]

@@jshstuff I know they are not Pro headphones but I love my JVC XXL they make you feel like your in the club, but as far as mixing when I get into the car to listen to the mix the Bass and Highs are always off, I love my XXL's they are great for just making beats but I need something else to use for a better mix.

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

Reason plus is not a scam but the increase of price for those who want to buy a licence and the removal of Reason lite and then saying the barrier of entry is to high in cost was kinda a scam.

[@sammyall9091]

I prefer to just do it all on my studio monitors just all the way easier

[@Weaverbeats]

to each their own

[@waveyan]

[Insert artist name here] X [insert artist name here] TYPE BEAT "[insert generic name here]" 2022 🔥(FREE FOR PROFIT)

[@VeganKebabDoRuky]

The thing about Reaper is that you can customise the hell out of it. I personally ditched FL and Studio One for it. Edit: also hands down it's least performance heavy out of every other DAW, good since I use lots of FX sometimes and some patches can be extreme CPU hogs, so that headroom makes a lot of difference without having to bounce

[@JayMisc]

Reaper is my most favorite DAW to use cause of it being lightweight yet it's software is meant mainly for audio quality which makes it great.

[@croay]

Reaper is the most customizable DAW out there, there's not competition on the same level.

[@VeganKebabDoRuky]

@Mister Scoops Ayy same!

[@maplefoxx6285]

@Mister Scoops 'A wild fox appears in the reply' Oh hai, I use Reaaaaaper too. Reaper has no competition. It is by far the best DAW. Don't tell the pro tools users, they will spontaneously combust.

[@djsusan00]

sub projects saves lives

[@pedrolo3821]

FACTS

[@DSWL_]

🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️

[@learn2xpand862]

you hear detail less in monitors?

[@Weaverbeats]

Unless you have them insanely loud

[@username4755]

anybody that uses splice... FYI if you end your subscription they will eventually take back all credits that you still have...

[@machoman7655]

You got to use them up then quit

[@mageprometheus]

I like reaper being ugly, it makes me feel beautiful. Delusion leads to happiness.

[@geist.2699]

Thanks for coming up with this topic. First of all why would you as an artist wanna sound like someone else? I don’t get it at all…

[@geist.2699]

Same with vocal presets. Sure it a start for someone who is not familiar how to use certain plugins.

[@unduloid]

Creativity doesn't pay the bills.

[@ELLIOT8209]

Copycats are hungry AF

[@billysanchez-eh6nn]

Maybe not everyone is treating music like a business scam?!!! If you are not creative you not gonna make it anyway lol, there's literally millions of people that are doing the same sh*t that you do

[@jeremiahwhitmore1693]

To me vital has better harmonic structure and sounds really well compared to serum. But serum is just og tbh

[@leonardoinzunza1750]

Don't need to download free plugins if you have drip

[@assdirt]

my snare doesn’t suck.

[@Weaverbeats]

I beg to differ

[@kausambirajbarua5293]

Why don't know why fl studio is not used by pro producers.

[@Quoisboy]

“Algorithm type beat”

[@thiloswift8035]

kinda true

[@jrvinwav]

Bitwig imo is like Legos, with Legos you can make star wars ships that captures little details or it can just be as simple as spelling out your name using square blocks. In Bitwig you can dive in to the grid and pretty much able to replicate any plugins given you have the knowledge (and time) or you can just make beats quick without even entering the grid and just using stock presets and fx. Theres this free grid preset in Bitwig that replicates sp404 effects.

[@jaycenteno8385]

That sponsor made me want to cry... :'{

[@oldskool9783]

Sm58 needs less gain. So in my opinion, it's better

[@kaitheinamori3112]

love how u didn’t even try to remove the stock image watermarks 😂

[@Weaverbeats]

i actually made the background video myself, and slapped them on there

[@kaitheinamori3112]

@@Weaverbeats damn thats creative

[@who_is_dis]

90% of Type beats are extremely formulaic and sound the same. Can be a real drag when looking for inspiration.

[@superhobo500]

agreed.

[@croay]

Also, I do think Bitwig is the DAW of the future, along with Reaper both have incredibly RELEVANT unique features that no one else is really implementing. Bitwig being a fully modular workstation and Reaper a fully customizable workstation. You like something you tried on Ableton Live, Studio One and FL Studio? You can just...implement that on Reaper. You want complete control over what every parameter of your plugin is doing? You have 50 modulation types and countless possibilities with Bitwig... I'd also mention The Grid (which is powerful AF) but M4L got a good portion covered.

[@Weaverbeats]

i need to dig into bitwig more, you make it sound even better than i thought it was.