Man how does this have just 75k views? This interview is actually gold for all it touches - from Lance talking so openly about it and the whole insane plot Icarus covers. Just WOW
@aleksandrmykhailov5087 Жыл бұрын
Cause, nobody cares about Lance anymore
@uberkloden Жыл бұрын
@@aleksandrmykhailov5087Really? Are you a nobody.
@frederickhartray9701 Жыл бұрын
@@aleksandrmykhailov5087 You have to admit the hypocrisy of these two cheats talking about others doping is humorous.
@horse-45988 ай бұрын
No clickbait title. Boring thumbnail
@jamskof6 жыл бұрын
so good to see lance talking about all this so candidly! AWESOME!
@imranvp5 жыл бұрын
Yeah exactly. Lance can easily be a credit to the community and the sporting world at large if he explains the ins and outs of getting around the system with doping, so we could possibly avoid or catch future cheaters. Coz who would know better than him right? This was an amazing interview! Great to see Lance being candid like that!
@Gkuljian6 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. I've been waiting for this interview. Can't wait to see the movie.
@Swoll12316 жыл бұрын
G Kuljian great movie
@hedleykerr35646 жыл бұрын
Anybody who has watched the movie and then viewed this podcast should go back and watch the movie(Icarus) again you will have much better clarity!
@sirdelrio3 жыл бұрын
Michael Phelps says he 'never competed in a clean field once'. He's talking about himself.
@robroberts14736 жыл бұрын
This channel is quickly becoming my favorite channel
@RobbieLeffel6 жыл бұрын
How uncomfortable is that table for Bryan?!
@vd25973 жыл бұрын
F-that. Bryan knows what lance had to do because of the simple nature of the sport.
@tuco57396 жыл бұрын
Lance incredible documentary! I was glued to the tv! I hope Gregory is doing well somewhere in the US.
@johnnyguzman34296 жыл бұрын
Thanks for bringing in such an important story to your podcast.
@MFries16 жыл бұрын
Boost your overall levels, please :) Esp. on audio for podcast (if it's not the same as video). I've listened to every podcast, and they've been absolutely fantastic! guests are incredible and every single one has been enjoyable, but just boost the db's!
@Limitless_Flowers4 жыл бұрын
This documentary is mind blowing!! Grigory was soo charming and funny in the documentary !!
@urin13376 жыл бұрын
i think fogel missed a shot here. lance was really open and wanted to talk about everything. dont get me wrong - this is great, but it couldve been much more.
@chuckie1028833 жыл бұрын
He was being interviewed not the other way around
@flaviobbq6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic interview. I can’t wait for part 2.
@galeiras6 жыл бұрын
Best podcast in the world!!! Go Lance!
@revelution36586 жыл бұрын
How am I just now seeing lance Armstrong on a podcast?! Best believe Ive got a new podcast to listen to
@alanp87246 жыл бұрын
freaking amazing!! great backstory to icarus.
@tonyhernandez52835 жыл бұрын
"Our roided up guy beat your roided up guy" >bill burr
@beeboopbeebop9316 Жыл бұрын
Rf
@dakiblabla4 жыл бұрын
Ha ha when he was explaining how Portugalov turned Gregory in he should have said - you know, like you did to Tyler...
@bigtasty84013 жыл бұрын
I mean, Armstrong was only proven to be doping (even after confessing) when his teammates ratted on him. I'm not sure what role anyone played in that but yea, it goes around.
@dakiblabla3 жыл бұрын
@@bigtasty8401 I was referring to the incident when Armstrong reported on Tyler Hamilton for doping after Tyler refused to let him win some race. Tyler went ahead and won despite being "warned", the next day Armstrong reported him for doping, even though they were literally doping together. This was before Armstrong's doping was known outside the team. Tyler's interviews about that era are super interesting and highly recommended, as well as Floyd Landis'.
@bigtasty84013 жыл бұрын
@@dakiblabla Yea, questionable morals on behalf of all of them. I'm not saying Armstrong is innocent of wrong doing, just that all of them are pointing fingers. That's what happens when you're all guilty.
@KurtMcDowellOKC6 жыл бұрын
I watched the movie last night after seeing this interview. Riveting, intriguing, and deflating! I can't see an end to the 'better living through chemistry' mindset among individuals, teams, or countries.
@martblore6 жыл бұрын
A great documentary, and a great pod-versation 👌
@joerossa1112 Жыл бұрын
Lance is in so much better shape today than 5 years ago.
@NicholasStewartfilms6 жыл бұрын
That Dr Ferrari quote ! 😂😂
@lpr52696 жыл бұрын
"All you need is the RED CELLS."(with an Italian Accent) That's totally true by the way. It doesn't matter how much muscle you have. If you don't have enough oxygen going to your muscles it all shuts down.
@yungskwad44494 жыл бұрын
Paul y yessir
@Pawcioook6 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for this interview 😎
@MsFrogster16 жыл бұрын
a brilliant movie, total respect for Grigory honestly. watched it several times as there is so much you can miss. "there's always a defense 😂😂"
@shawndoran28796 жыл бұрын
Stumbled on this... awesome!
@sebastian71124 жыл бұрын
Can lance release his actual doping programs, how many IUs of EPO, how often, etc. I’d be curious to compare modern race protocols to early ones.
@nicholastemplebrown3 жыл бұрын
I agree, although its best that lance doesn't mention amount doses etc. As elite athletes these days are on the same programs and or more complex programs.
@CFCMahomet3 жыл бұрын
No way... The Omertà...
@SKILLIUSCAESAR3 жыл бұрын
U can find a lot of that info in his WADA investigation file that’s public... reading thru teammates affidavits as I listen to this, some of those details are definitely there
@2wheelsrbest3276 жыл бұрын
Brilliant & fascinating.
@flyingface Жыл бұрын
Wow, incredible podcast
@AndriyHrn6 жыл бұрын
Awesome interview and great documentary, Bryan. Greetings from Ukraine :)
@thunderpooch6 жыл бұрын
It was an entertaining documentary, but the drama was all fabricated. He already knew Grigory and was tipped off that he was going down. The whole doping protocol was to fool viewers into thinking that he just so happened to fall into the greatest doping scandal ever.
@timw43694 жыл бұрын
Yes it's been done before. Look at the samples for the 100 meters in Seoul I think they were all dirty not just johnson.
@yungskwad44494 жыл бұрын
bryan cant keep that smile inside fanboying
@JB-ki9ql6 жыл бұрын
Lance is in his groove with his podcast brilliant.
@chrisbrown22113 жыл бұрын
How/why does Lance think Michael Phelps does not use steroids?
@denali96436 жыл бұрын
20:36 “Felt pretty good, didn’t it?” The knowing.....
@franciscopontesvelasco43153 жыл бұрын
It would be great to see an interview with Chris Horner or Contador, Indurain, etc
@snarkyboojum6 жыл бұрын
Haha. Phelps doesn't do PEDs? Lol, give me a break.
@thunderpooch6 жыл бұрын
That has to be the biggest joke in history. If ever there was a sport more reliant on PED's and especially EPO it's swimming. Coming up for one less breath is often the difference in many races. If I jump in with more red blood cells I don't have to breathe as much. There's a reason they are huffing and puffing before they jump in. They are oxygenating their red blood cells.
@tedlast48963 жыл бұрын
Lance is the absolute GOAT
@sonatak3046 жыл бұрын
This feels sooo weird and icky to see the guy who unveiled the truth and one of the highest profile cheaters of all time... especially when Lance says “this guys is full of sh...”. I mean really? Coming from you? Humans are so complex but still, this feels weird!
@MS-un9zq Жыл бұрын
excellent movie/docu
@vinylviper19712 жыл бұрын
Icarus is mind blowing!
@robertrishel36853 жыл бұрын
Bryan Fogel is one amazing human being. I have huge respect for this guy, big respect. Not too shabby an athlete either👍👍 As far as Lance goes, “cheating”, drugs, megalomania, all that, whatever, bottom line, the man is still a once in a generation athlete. During his years of domination, all of the top level riders were doping, without a doubt. Lance did it better and his underlying athleticism is beyond comprehension. The record books may have an asterisk on his years of competition, but the truth and reality is he won and won and won and won.
@jaydalypt27065 жыл бұрын
LA Still a god damn Legend and x7 TDF winner.
@ianholmquist84923 жыл бұрын
The most famous cheater of all time, for sure
@humblesamb99202 жыл бұрын
@@ianholmquist8492 absolutely, especially since he competed against a clean field. Right?
@sirdelrio3 жыл бұрын
Lance is a hero because he told the truth. So many 'champions' are still pretending.
@andreas117356 жыл бұрын
Have Don Catlin on The Forward podcast.
@CoolInOlympia5 жыл бұрын
Is there part 2?
@briandarabaca6 жыл бұрын
Lance, you will always be my champ! I agree that Icarus is such a great documentary film and an eye opener. Fighting dope with dope!
@cypriano87633 жыл бұрын
350 for 130 pound dude for 1hr. Thats phil gaimon power son
@nicholastemplebrown3 жыл бұрын
Lance knows you cannot be an elite champion without performance enhancing drugs. He even admitted it (in the 30 for 30 series) when he first went to Europe he wasn't even near the best guys at the end of races. At the time lance thought he was at his best. (Naturally) He then new if you "don't dope you cant cope". I am a supporter and will continue support lance, without him cycling wouldn't be where it is today. People watch sport to get the best entertainment... Why not let these elite gladiators dope the house down? Their body their choice. We give these athletes stigma for using drugs to be better at their jobs but most of society are hypocrites. Most people abuse stimulants , painkillers, nootropics etc just to go earn their salary at a normal job. Society lacks perspective. Great interview. 😎
@ianholmquist84923 жыл бұрын
Lol
@tfa83 жыл бұрын
that's his typical weak defense line, 'everbody was doing', "you can't win without... ',' bringing knufes to a gunfight ' and other BS over and over again to distract from his own cheating, real winners don't cheat, real cheats never win...
@nicholastemplebrown3 жыл бұрын
@@tfa8 The best athletes in the world are on the best drugs in the world. you cannot deny that, denying thats make you super naive. People in society use drugs to help them work more and harder for petty salaries. Pro athletes get paid millions, you think they wouldn't use drugs if millions of dollars were on the line??
@tfa83 жыл бұрын
@@nicholastemplebrown didn't make sense to me, either you are an athlete means you are playing by the rules in a level playing field or you are an cheating doper, there is nothing like an doping Athlete... either you dope and cheat or you are an athlete
@humblesamb99202 жыл бұрын
@@tfa8 appalling levels of nativity
@fhowland Жыл бұрын
Table mounted mics make for poor audio unfortunately
@ericyoahan6 жыл бұрын
i like this Lance. Loose.. freeflow. unlike his interview with Oprah and Rich Roll
@cakej12 жыл бұрын
Seems a lot more elaborate than Lance's supposedly elaborate doping system.
@adamstepic80832 жыл бұрын
Lance Armstrong talking about Icarus, that's rich. Lol
@majagwozdz20173 жыл бұрын
Lance is a really good host.
@dcy40635 жыл бұрын
so cool
@dannyboy21806 жыл бұрын
They should do a investigation into China and their program.
@acerconticchio9993 жыл бұрын
Lance Armstrong just admitted Ferrari was the one telling him what to do!!!
@fiveyearold5 жыл бұрын
Outside contamination is how they got Michael food poisoning in that finals series against the 76ers. The "flu" game
@ivalovric2 жыл бұрын
Lance 👑
@nemanjamilovancevic83963 жыл бұрын
Michael phelps not using peds? Hard to imagine
@billpickle28752 жыл бұрын
"Bet that felt pretty good didn't it?" Haha
@champtech87554 жыл бұрын
Well, I’m Russian and it could be 100% true, BUT I wouldn’t take at face value everything he’s saying. You cannot trust a person who was making money on the side while working for WADA and Russia’s doping center/lab and then blaming others.
@nickhumphrey48336 жыл бұрын
I understand Fogel's incentive and impetus to do the film from an intuitive point of view and also from a scientific perspective- in an attempt to make the science of doping control falsifiable. However I do not understand Grigory's incentive to take the venture on. He knew they were swapping urine and not testing for certain substances. its not a falsifiability study for him- he had insider knowledge doping control was bullshit in the case of the Russians. - I just can't understand how he nearly risked his life to tell the truth about something he was not only complicit in but a scheme he actively participated in. I can't understand how Grigory is so clever and did something that is so not in his interests.
@angusreynolds72736 жыл бұрын
I assumed watching the Documentary that Grigory knew what was coming so when some random American presents himself as a potential ally if the situation ever got out of hand and so he leapt at the opportunity to have another friend overseas who could help him without ruining his reputation.
@glywnniswells94805 жыл бұрын
He is anti Russian and Putin because Russians are no longer ruled by Bolscheviks,whereas the West is.The West has at least an equal doping problem
@runningbroscience15344 жыл бұрын
who the hell disliked this video
@4dogsannacat6 жыл бұрын
Huh Grigory is being sued for defamation of character by three athletes that were stripped of their medals, GOOD!
@mrndlprsnr6 жыл бұрын
felt pretty good didnt it?!....
@josephk.h.55066 жыл бұрын
Great interview. Bryan and Lance did a great interview. BTW, I've followed Lance since his teenage swimming career. Got to admit, the dude's appearance is looking a little rough. Not hating at all here - he's only 46 and looks like he needs to either get more sleep and/or accordingly adjust his eating and exercise routine. Irrespective still Da Man!
@josephk.h.55066 жыл бұрын
agree man . . . Lance will tell you himself that he's not the best eater. Still a monster on the bike though.
@ckcycles76246 жыл бұрын
The man is still being sued for 120million dollars. I would assume that would accelerate the aging process quite a bit
@Zen_Power5 жыл бұрын
CKCycles 😂 how is he not completely bankrupt? I can imagine every one he sued has counter sued him. And that’s ALOT of people.
@TRUETALK116135 жыл бұрын
Where did he come in the 2nd race ?
@mrkipling22012 жыл бұрын
27th.
@portal432 Жыл бұрын
Lance is a G.
@olliebrown892 жыл бұрын
I thought the exact opposite about phelps.
@joselozada66403 жыл бұрын
wtttttttttttttttttttttttttf!!!! I just clicked and ddnt even bother to read the title!!!!!!! damn lance looks so old :O
@davidthoureau66936 жыл бұрын
It's only getting worse. Thx for this!
@jeffk25126 жыл бұрын
F'ing awesome Lance!!! 🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁
@benkvulothong40343 жыл бұрын
Sadulaev really?
@christopherhamer95843 жыл бұрын
Lance "livestrong" Armstrong This man can do more with 1 ball then we all can do with 2.
@Von45Rose3 жыл бұрын
Why would I watch a sport that’s fixed? Ask Vince McMahon.
@mrkipling22012 жыл бұрын
According to Vince it’s sports entertainment!!!
@glywnniswells94805 жыл бұрын
oh its Only Russin athletes right
@marcelberger82803 жыл бұрын
Pretty sad that Bryan Fogel is taking credit for others' achievements. Hajo Seppelt from the German First Television Broadcaster uncovered the story Fogel based his documentary Icarus on. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hajo_Seppelt
@Wacoal34d5 жыл бұрын
Awkward, the elephant in the room, good to have that tension.
@roadracer11586 жыл бұрын
Juiced!
@jonboltax4 жыл бұрын
seriously get a different table for your guests
@chrisbuxton19583 жыл бұрын
I’m still a big fan of Lance.
@strontiumdog86466 жыл бұрын
‘Who’d have THUNK IT’ ...... LANCE!!!!!!!!!!! What the fuck 😭😭😭 sort your language out bro haha
@MilenkoIvanovic6 жыл бұрын
Lance aged
@dalelayton2826 жыл бұрын
Greatest cycles of all time lance.
@dr.merlot15326 жыл бұрын
F Joe Rogan, Rogan some times brings in quacks into his pod cast. I like Lance's pod cast much more.
@vd25973 жыл бұрын
Lance 🇺🇲💪
@subtropicalken13625 жыл бұрын
So Lance gets a life time ban for his doping, lies, and intimidation. Why aren’t the Russians receiving a lifetime ban for murder, lies, intimidation (a witness in the witness protection program), etc., etc? And does anyone really trust them to not do the very same thing again? Frankly I don’t trust any athlete not to do the same thing again, nor the governing bodies ...
@chheule5 жыл бұрын
The movie is nice and I like this podcast but there is 1 thing that I really hate on Icarus and this specific episode. Just because you dope doesn't mean no one NOT on drugs can't race faster as you do!!! I raced HR Ventoux in 2017 and finished 9th or 10th overall, 100% clean. Not even vitamin supplements! I could have done way better with a little more training but I'm working, I have tow kids and I primarily enjoy my life. I'm over that point where cycling was all in my life. I'm far from lean. I'm 185cm tall and weigh 80-82kg. I'm far from pro level. My FTP dropped more then 10% since I retired and I weigh about 10kg more now. NOT pro level. I find it a shame, BF is suggesting anyone is on drugs on those races. Sure thats wrong. Very very wrong.
@alainmaitre2069 Жыл бұрын
Lance is using the F word , i am out , i do not want to hear him talk like that .
@4dogsannacat6 жыл бұрын
So he says he knew and met GR in 2014 then played it off that Doug Caitlin introduced them.....the bullshit that comes out of this guys mouth is insane
@thunderpooch6 жыл бұрын
The documentary fabricated timelines to add drama. So unnecessary! The whole doping protocol was total bullshit to make it appear he fell into the lap of Grigory. You're smart enough to catch it, but I doubt the average person will.
@mofomartianp6 жыл бұрын
He's a jew, what do you expect?
@suzyinstitches2732 жыл бұрын
The rbc enhancement has a downside too. Go with too high a hematocrit and your blood becomes physically too thick to circulate efficiently.