Venom 2: Carnage The Big Red Venom - The Weekly Planet Podcast

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I'm here in 1080p! Best looking podcast out there!

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Those are rookie numbers. I’m watching in 12k 720 FPS.

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Noob, I'm watching with my VR Headset. I can feel how smooth Mason's beard is.

[@TheSoulWithin7]

@@palaniuki lies, vr headsets arnt that clear

[@palaniuki]

@@TheSoulWithin7 But Mason's beard is that clear.

[@TheSoulWithin7]

@@palaniuki i dont think you undersrand how resolution works hahaha

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I'm so glad about the "Black Sails" mention,such an underrated show!

[@stepheninks]

the theme song for Black Sails is an absolute banger.

[@DylanSunkel]

"Robert Pattinson with memory loss" might be cruel, but he'll forget about it.

[@nystacular]

NOTHING brings me more joy than the defenders of the earth theme tune. Have i seen the show? No. But i enjoy that tune loudly blaring in this podcast.

[@chivasowle286]

15:00 “It’s always a lie” You should play Detroit: Becoming Human. Legitimately I have never played a game where the story diverges so dramatically based on your choices.

[@HisNameWasCrazy]

I'd also recommend Telltale's Batman series. For all the flack Telltale got for the choices not mattering, in the second season you got one of two entirely different final episodes determined by your previous choices.

[@henrychinaski5938]

Yes!

[@facundoprieto1030]

In the post credits scene Venom says "that wasn't me" or something like that, so i think it was just a coincidence that they swapped universes at the same time that they were about to connect to the hive mind

[@Whiteythereaper]

It was Doctor Strange's spell. You can see that kind of ring effect outside from the No Way Home Trailer, but Venom does say "A Hive mind across universes" so he probably knows Tobey Macguire's Spidey and knows that he bonded with that Venom and then killed it

[@Triforcefilms]

If you walk away from the Cowboy Bebop live action after 2 - 3 episodes without another thought, that's the optimal viewing experience.

[@matthewallcorn3699]

I love the defenders of the earth bit!

[@ketchup1993]

I also comment before I could have possibly heard the whole Podcast. If I had to rate it I'd give it a 5 on the sandwich scale

[@woody_you_want]

What boggles my mind about venom 2 is that some bits of dialog are genuinely clever but it also has some of the dumbest bits of dialog in years

[@TheSoulWithin7]

Truuuth, makes it a total guilty pleasure flick

[@thebandwagonfanpodcast]

It felt like different writers or studio forced additions. Such a shame.

[@danielwarner3675]

i love it when the boys tell preposterous lies about how amazing a future podcast is gonna be

[@basilciccone1679]

holy shit mason starting the bit at 24:30 with “hello fellows..” and then only 10 seconds later adding that robert pattinson being unable to process plural words has me so dead had to pull up to the pet co parking lot to mention it

[@steveheronofficial]

Jared Leto definitely channelling Janosz from Ghostbusters 2 with that accent in the Gucci film.

[@mikecollier4206]

"Robert, you need help" 😂😂 Don't worry, Robert - we will remember movie

[@DanimalRC]

3:32 Kickin' it off with a BANG! I love it.

[@andrewshandle]

Mass Effect 2 was just awesome. They fix the annoying mechanics that didn't work in ME1 (which was already a great game), and really nail the formula of the "leader building the a team you care about". Even ME3 is amazing until the end, there is a specific moment about halfway though where everything you did in ME2 leads you to one specific scene and it was just mind blowing. It's a shame what has happened to BioWare since.

[@thebandwagonfanpodcast]

Have you ever heard the Tragedy of Mass Effect Development?

[@Whiteythereaper]

@@thebandwagonfanpodcast EA killed it in it's sleep?

[@Whiteythereaper]

2's story is excellent, the concept behind bonding as much as you can and working to become the very best good or the very respected sadistic badass to get your crew to trust you completely so they don't die in a suicide mission. 3's army building was good but the ending really let it down. The Citadel DLC did go a long way to help out though.

[@Psilocybin77]

As someone that lives behind BioWares head office in Edmonton, had friends working in QA and was friends with the guys who played the closing theme from the 2nd game (the faunts), it never stops hurting.

[@markrothenbuhler6232]

I'm from New Jersey and can confirm the Taylor ham controversy. Love to hear it from an outsider's perspective!

[@EoinMack1]

*Pork Roll controversy

[@nekobot222]

i actually was surprised how good carnage was just from the performance by jared leto alone

[@Douglas_Props]

True but I think the best movie of this year is The Dark Knight for Heath Leagers’s performances alone!

[@thebandwagonfanpodcast]

The Jar-ed Let-oh

[@DanimalRC]

Comment 2: Cruise Control -- Thank you for your honest review of Von Dutch. I couldn't agree more.

[@erickmsuya8769]

I always want to complain about the length of the review but then I see realize they talked about it for 30 plus minutes.... This pod is so amazing

[@aspacelex]

If the Last Duel will flop in the 3 pm slot on TNT with the dad demo, Scott will have a reason to complain.

[@siobibble9078]

I was literally just thinking the other day it’s been ages since a defenders of the earth theme gag. This made my day

[@andrewshandle]

The Venom stuff is spot on. The fact that Sony was pushing the end credit scene speaks volumes, because that is all people were talking about which is kind of sad when you think about it. I also agree that it felt like the movie was cut from another movie, it's criminally short, it's like they took a rated R film and what we saw was the version edited to put on network TV where all the gore and some scenes were cut for time to fit into a 2 hour time slot with 30 minutes of commercials. I know people are saying movies are too long now as movies start creeping back to 2.5 hours, but Venom 2 is under 90 minutes long and feels like the entire second act is missing.

[@artisticAsian353]

James Robot hand is going to be exactly like Douglas Reyholm robot hand🤣🤣🤣

[@andrewshandle]

When I first heard they were making the Last Duel as a wide release movie, I asked myself "Who is this movie for?" When I saw the first ad for it, I again asked "who is this movie for?" And I guess we found out, it's for nobody.

[@jimjam7928]

23:42 As an Irishman, the trick is not to pronounce the "gh" at all. So, Barry Keoghan is "Kyo-hen"

[@jamesclement8985]

Trust me, I've been listening to these two for about 5 years, they're never going to pronounce it correctly (or close to correctly). They still say "Gal Gadoe" and "Villay-noo" (as in Denis Villeneuve) and Dom-nall Gleeson. I don't know if they're doing it on purpose or simply too lazy to find a KZbin clip where the individuals say their own names.

[@DerekLuetjen]

Almost forgot to leave a like until that Defenders of the Earth song played.

[@MrTrick.]

Thanks for putting in the obligatory Defenders theme tune.

[@stephenlizarraga]

I cleared my throat so many times listening to this episode. Cough it out man. Cough it right out outta ya.

[@Lee-xj2mn]

for masons future recordings when wondering whether to say viewer or listener... i'm always a viewer... FROM MY WINDOW

[@adder2488]

Got em

[@SergeantVau1]

As a New Jerseyan, it is totally Pork Roll. I'm glad you guys are on the right side of history.

[@Matt-xc6sp]

Lawrence Kasdan wrote Empire

[@jasonmckenzie2835]

Can't wait for your Arcane review.

[@jae9843]

Arcane wait either!

[@Jpipooly]

If they had Cletus take the spot of Sin-Eater in Eddie's backstory that would've easily added some depth to their relationship

[@Douglas_Props]

1:12:25 Here is the video Ben made: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGrEqJSqf82KfLc

[@woody_you_want]

I hope it becomes a running gag of "we'll watch snakeyes next week"

[@pimp_floyd5024]

Looks like it may actually become a thing😂

[@Supernormalbob]

I have great news

[@MedatonOrtano]

Good morning from New England!

[@KhalidQuesada]

As a lifelong New Jersey resident, born, raised and stuck in, it's 100% pork roll.

[@Sweetmanthanks]

Yes James, you should absolutely get that Tayor porkroll. 1 serving is 2 slices. Cut at least one slit into is so it doesn't curl when you fry it in a pan. It's better than bacon or any other breakast ham product. Anyone who disagrees is wrong. WRONG I SAY.

[@thebandwagonfanpodcast]

We eagerly await the full recipe! 😁

[@taha_boy]

The biggest film of the year is Battle of Lake Changjin. No time to die is the biggest English language film of the year

[@thebandwagonfanpodcast]

Venom 2 felt hollow. It was as if they knew how they wanted it to end and then quickly filled in the rest.

[@jedimastertitaniumdickmana2939]

Venom 2 felt more like a original super hero movie than Shang-Chi your just being overly pretentious about it

[@inigoadinatha7897]

@@jedimastertitaniumdickmana2939 Nah, venom is not even a superhero.

[@jedimastertitaniumdickmana2939]

@@inigoadinatha7897my point still stands if your relying on something like semantics as your first argument point

[@flyyguyy1389]

best movie ever

[@tommygigg3500]

I looked up whether that thing Maso mentioned about of DMC of Run-DMC rapping about Hasbro toys was real and now I'm wondering how Maso heard about this apparently legitimate historical event given how very few results the search yielded.

[@davidthompson6715]

Same all I could find was a video of the rap but cut into only the brands he says

[@SoftEndy]

It happened at the Hasbro Pulse Con this year.

[@estd.bruwer2778]

59:52 - Is that the Foo Fighters song Congregation?

[@FlynnTheRedhead]

22:30 The Vive Flow is literally just a pair of glasses. Okay more like goggles but still. Very light, mobile and no headstrap

[@brawly]

Black Sails has one of the best openings ever imo. Great show too.

[@Haysey_Draws]

Can we have the Defenders 8bit tune as the new intro? I mean you'll get sued (maybe?) but i'd love it. EDIT : Also the Brian May thing, literally hours ago basically said the media twisted what he said and he is pro trans...and honestly he seemed really pissed at the media so i'm leaning on it being another case of our media just being the worst.

[@DanisThoughts]

on the whole stan lee is a comic book creator in venom, i don't think that's a big deal considering stan lee is also a comic book creator in the MCU because he's reading the malrats script on a train in the 90s

[@mahoutsuguy863]

He probably writes for DC in the MCU (see Eternals)

[@Na-mi3dx]

@@mahoutsuguy863 That would be the best thing ever. That’s entirely canon in my head now. Thanks.

[@lyndsaybrown8471]

He probably travels the multiverse and uses that to create story plots for his comics. You know, like the real Stan Lee.

[@DarkachuWasTaken]

I've come to the conclusion that what I love about these two and this podcast is that it's like sitting here talking shit with a couple mates, only I don't have to put a single iota of effort in. Just a couple likeable blokes

[@milliondollarmistake]

welcome to the wonderful world of parasocial relationships

[@DarkachuWasTaken]

@@milliondollarmistake the only kind of relationship I can tolerate with my ass burgers

[@deathlink6452]

Oh I can't wait to get home and listen to this

[@brandonolsen579]

It's funny what you said about the Last Cool Duel, because when I saw the trailer it didn't give away what Adam Drivers character did, so I assumed he was accusing Matt Damon's wife of being a witch. But when I was talking to a friend about how I was excited to see it, he Googled it and when I found out what it was actually about I literally said, "oh dang, I don't think I want to see that now."

[@andrewshandle]

I think this is really interesting. I knew what the movie was about, so I wonder if I saw the ads differently subconsciously. I'd be curious to watch them again now and try and really pay attention to if they show that. It's a but like the new Dune movie, as someone who has read the book, I followed the movie just fine and really enjoyed it, but I spoke to someone who is completely new to the franchise and they had so many questions that I just knew the answers to, but not because the movie actually told us, it's just that I knew due to prior knowledge.

[@rgoodfellow]

I’m so excited for Snake Eyes next week!

[@elliswebster7041]

I’m so excited for Snake Eyes next week!

[@DinerLingo]

To truly understand the deliciousness that is pork roll, put on the Ween album, "The Pod" & listen to the songs, "Pork Roll Egg & Cheese" & "Frank." They love it so much they wrote two songs about it on the same album. And yes, while it's allegedly from Trenton, NJ, it's also quite popular in eastern Pennsylvania (where Ween is from).

[@louisyznaga2724]

50:12 After Nick says venom, James says venom in a funny voice, possibly because of that East Hills commercial?

[@IIDynamoDuckII]

My theory is to why he was fascinated with Tom Holland was he himself was banging on about being a superhero for the whole movie and basically calling Eddie a loser, so when he sees an actual superhero on tv that's he's reaction, he want to bond with him.

[@LoveRegi00]

I genuinely enjoyed Venom 2. The acting was good and the story was ok (could it have been better? Yes, of course). I had a good time, and it served its purpose as entertainment. It didn't take itself seriously which made the film work for me. The only criticism I have to agree with is that the film series is held back by its PG-13 rating and how Venom 2 should have leaned more into the investigation side. Yup, on both accounts, yes!

[@Jay-bf8yp]

Spoilers... I figured Carnage would have gone on a killing spree while venom mulled over intervening. But, like you said, PG-13

[@LoveRegi00]

@@Jay-bf8yp Spoilers! . . . . Carnage's breakout scene lost all sense of impact because of the lack of gore and blood splatter that was missing. 🤷🏾‍♀️ Regardless, I enjoyed the film. I like character driven stories which some can do without. So, Kasady and Shriek's chemistry was a standout. And I found Venom and Eddie's bickering amusing. Though, with Venom 2's short runtime, the film could have gone more into the investigation and lore.

[@dannyking410]

Everyone should watch Black Sails. Definitely the best pirate content ever made (for fans of pirates) but also one of the most underrated television shows ever made too. Season 1 is good but also the worst season by far. Very epic show to fill the GoT void these days

[@gimlym6641]

Took me a while to get into it because I really struggled with the first few episodes. But by season 2 I was fully on board.

[@kieran10202]

We should assume the venom post credits takes place as the doctor strange spell is cast and the footage just isn't live. We don't know why the spell displaces the people it does, but I reckon it's to do with knowing Spiderman's identity, so maybe either Eddie Brock found out in the past and it's linked with how he lost his TV career, or a symbiote found out, and he knows through the hive mind. (maybe this is garfield-verse and spiderman was possessed by riot during his travels.) I figure Eddie will stay in the MCU since he doesn't have anything to go back for, and that might be a good thing.

[@TheRyanDuffinProject]

On the whole subject of venom licking the screen with Spider-Man on it- my theory is because venom was literally just talking about a hivemind that transcends universes or whatever that venom either subconsciously or consciously had memories from the venom that appears in Spider-Man 3 which would explain his motivations for wanting to eat him but who knows 😂

[@thebandwagonfanpodcast]

I'm here for that 👍🏽

[@Lemon_Chicken_Yo]

Oh wow, a porkroll reference. This is something pretty much unknown outside of the eastern seaboard USA. Also, it is delicious, yum. Now look up scrapple...

[@victoryusmc]

They've done it again!

[@hada__02]

Good god, Snake Eyes review has been a thing for over 2 years. Still, can’t wait for it next week

[@Armoless]

Hey G8M8s, welcome back as always!

[@PureChaos69]

5 minutes?! Woah I feel so important being here this early

[@Vincent.Morreale]

The first 2 Mass Effect were great ! I played the second one soooo much ! The third, well, endings are difficult right ?

[@smudje12]

RE the double bill in the DOMINION teaser: After he made American Graffiti, Lucas tried you get the rights to make a Flash Gordon movie. He was unsuccessful and so made his own movie sci-fi fantasy, inspired by Saturday morning serials instead. The teaser suggests that in the JP universe Lucas got the Flash Gordon rights and never made Star Wars.

[@andrewshandle]

I know House of Gucci target audience isn't me, but in a movie like that which the ad campaign seems to be focused on Lady Ga Ga's character, did they need to cast Jared Leto in a fat suit? Overall, Leto seems to be more trouble than he's worth for most movies.

[@thedomain2916]

Im on a GD walk and I hear what game James played and stopped mid stride to brace my ear drums. I’ll allow it because of the rendition but you’re in thin ice mister

[@TheDamnWinner]

James, on Shriek having a symbiote in the comics- you’re likely thinking about the red female symbiote whose actually called Scream. Lol. Shriek as far as i know is like a mutant? Isk but she has her screaming powers and no symbiote

[@gimlym6641]

I had the same line of thinking as Maso, but you're 100% correct, I was thinking of Scream, who has a symbiote but no yelly powers, as opposed too Shriek who has mutant yellery but no symbiote (and is in Carnage: The Big Red Venom).

[@michaelbarletta1024]

59:52 ITS TIME FOR THE BOOK OF THE WEEK

[@auradjinns]

Give the Venom franchise to James Wan. After watching Malignant I’m convinced he’d be the perfect director.

[@75YBA]

The 6th supervillain in NWH is Omicron.

[@brandonshealy3962]

Love u guys

[@frownline1]

I wonder if next week James and Mason will have properly checked out Taboo and realized why it is called that 😬

[@SakuraSura]

The review in song form at the end of their venom bit

[@dimetrodon2250]

This is the second time in my life where I said to myself “wow, this movie is terrible. I love it!”. It’s cheesy and dumb, with unrealistic characters and an inconsistent rushed plot, but I can’t bring myself to hate this movie. Eddie and Venom’s relationship was genuinely interesting.

[@deGooder]

Also to me it seems Last Duel was barely marketed, in the UK at least it was barely promoted

[@brandondavis3431]

Mustafa Shakur plays Jet Black on Cowboy Bebop. I liked it and thought it was fun. Wish they would have spent a bit more on the cgi. Like it should have looked more like mandalorian but yeah Shakur and the entire cast were great. He also played the villain in Luke Cage season 2

[@asteroid11]

I'm too lazy to send an e-mail and nobody will read this but a regional food that I get into agruments about is Beef on Weck. Its a beef sandwich on a kimmelweck roll, but for some reason everyone calls it Beef on Wick. I've literally been laughed at and ostrisized for saying Beef on Weck, quote "Anyone who says Weck is an idiot", but like, its a kimmelWECK roll, not a kimmelWICK roll. Drives me crazy., but my favorite local diner calls it Beef on Weck so, we take our wins where we can.

[@raidenvakarian9362]

When I made my avatar in Forza Horizon 5 it was literally just me but with a robot arm, so... I can kind of see the appeal of Meta if it can let me do that.

[@althaz]

James and Maso, on Mass Effect: If you have played the new Guardians of the Galaxy game and liked it, Mass Effect is basically that with better character dialogue and more cover-shooter-style combat. The GotG game is essentially just a Mass Effect clone (and that's why it's so great). If you don't like GotG though, I'd say skip Mass Effect, it's probably not for you (I think they are similar enough that if you like one you'll either like or love the other).

[@BRRICKHEAD]

as a fellow new jerseyan i really got a kick out of hearing this prescient cultural debate commented on from the other side of the globe! and it is in fact, called pork roll ;)

[@BRRICKHEAD]

and its delicious 🤤 but very unhealthy, think bacon

[@Randomsquirrel666]

Someone count how many times they said 'Choc Top'.

[@peterhiggins7998]

53:26 funniest bit ever.

[@Simon-zu2rb]

Lol I thought the detective was Donnie Wahlberg…

[@SirSoloSoul]

When is Top Gun 2 coming out ?

[@kilo6960]

I liked the action in the film and the post credits scene but everything else was meh

[@elliswebster7041]

There is no world where I'd cast Woody Harrelson as Cletus 💀

[@DangerDave-e7u]

Broccoli is ok. Green beans. I don't know.

[@positivetakes5592]

Have you all ever done a movie commentary on V for Vendetta? I think it'd be interesting

[@CaesiusX]

That was fortuitous. I just saw *Venom 2* last night. . .And I really wish I hadn't.🤦🏼‍♂️ On the sequel drop-off, I would have to say *The Exorcist II, The Heretic.*

[@donkeyshspittle]

imagine liking the last jedi but not the venom movies smh

[@mmmghool]

me tbh

[@Sabakryou]

only Carnage makes the holes in his chest boi. it might be cause Carnage is blood based and Venom is nervous system based

[@nova2512]

*Pork roll is not spam like. It’s really good. It tastes like Canadian bacon*

[@kylepatrick4730]

Watch and Discuss The Wheel of Time! It is an amazing book series turned tv by Amazon Prime. 4 episodes out now!

[@hellsapoppin9326]

As it turns out the press had twisted Brian Mays words

[@terryqokov6999]

I'm kinda annoyed they are pushing this version of Venom into the MCU instead of just letting them do their own version. Now they have to compromise it in order to put these two together. I'd say just cast Tom Hardy in the MCU but their age difference is so big they'd have to come up with a new plot to explain the rivalry.

[@lashisrad]

It's apart of the sharing deal between Marvel and Sony. Marvel gets Spider-Man in exchange for Sony being able to make their own Spider-Villain-Verse. Hence why they made Venom 2 and Morbius. Most likely outcome is Sony making terrible movies, because it's their favorite. And eventually they'll just sell the rights to Disney. Or screw themselves further and break the deal and make more awful Spider-Man films.

[@mr.dr0bot731]

Completely agree

[@terryqokov6999]

@@lashisrad I hope the first one happens, just annoying since it'll ruin the stories of this version of Spider-Man no matter what. If it ever returns fully to Disney, they could just do the story again with a new Venom. Or something else entirely.

[@1993JoshG]

hurts to hear ridley scott hating on young people for not seeing his film. his movie really interests me, just couldn't find time too see it because the worlds on fire.

[@jasonhughes305]

"you know me from movie" 😅😅

[@Moochtv]

What the BLOODY HELL, is a Choc Top?!