WEIRDEST Toyota in the WORLD?? (Part 1 - Flashing CEL, Clicking Dash & Display, Wonky TEMP Gauge)

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Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics

Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics

17 күн бұрын

Oh this one is going to be FUN!!
One of the WEIRDEST Cars that I have EVER seen in my life!
This 2004 Toyota Avalon actually drives pretty well.
It drove over 3 hours from West Virginia on the highway to get to PHAD.
But it is truly POSSESSED...there is a GHOST living inside.
Owner tells me it all started with a wonky TEMP GAUGE that pegged to the RED half a year ago.
The dash started clicking, Check Engine Light flashing, along with the center display!! WHAT?
Now it also has a habit of STALLING repeatedly on a cold start.
There is a code stored...for a Transmission Solenoid?
This car has been to several specialty shops, as well as his local Toyota dealer for this crazy problem. Everybody is completely STUMPED!!
Step 1 when dealing with so many different symptoms is to take the car for a drive and TAKE NOTES.
Any interesting correlations? Are all these problems tied together?
Get some popcorn for this Toyota...
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Enjoy!
Ivan

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@throttlewatch4614
@throttlewatch4614 15 күн бұрын
Ivan “this is the coolest thing ever “ customer NO, NO it isn’t 🤣
@RobertL78
@RobertL78 15 күн бұрын
It’s always entertaining when it’s not your car that’s possessed
@chrisi1909
@chrisi1909 15 күн бұрын
I would bet Ivan would buy this Car only because it is so cool and drive all day with the "Clikys"
@JDel709
@JDel709 15 күн бұрын
I always laugh whenever Ivan or Eric O. says "Yes! It's broken!" When they are trying to diagnose an intermittent problem.
@lvsqcsl
@lvsqcsl 14 күн бұрын
@@JDel709 And when they find it, "There's your problem, lady."
@punkhead4312
@punkhead4312 14 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@BigEightiesNewWave
@BigEightiesNewWave 15 күн бұрын
Toyota dealer, "you need a new car" Ivan, NOPE, I do actual diagnosis.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 15 күн бұрын
We'll touch on what the Toyota dealer actually recommended after we fix this ghost ;)
@GregoryGlessnerViolin
@GregoryGlessnerViolin 15 күн бұрын
Nice car! This is literally the stuff of my nightmares....like really, I'm driving my Avalon, and lights start flashing, I see warnings I've never seen before, and it starts falling on its face. Then I wake up and go to the garage to find the car sitting there peacefully.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 15 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@titaniumman_22
@titaniumman_22 15 күн бұрын
There aren’t too many things better on KZbin than seeing a Pine Hollow alert with ‘Part 1’ in the title!!!
@ThisIS_Insane
@ThisIS_Insane 15 күн бұрын
I'LL WRENCH TO THAT!! 👍👏👏👏
@rexberttechnica6702
@rexberttechnica6702 15 күн бұрын
The fact that the guy drove it three hours without putting his fist through that clicking annoyance is what amazes me the most....
@johnt.848
@johnt.848 15 күн бұрын
Based on other Camry drivers, he must be blind. 😉
@lvsqcsl
@lvsqcsl 14 күн бұрын
Doesn't it stop when the car is in "drive?"
@lustfulvengance
@lustfulvengance 15 күн бұрын
Anytime something turns on and off very quickly like that it's always a power or ground supply issue, same thing when you have a dead battery and try and crank the car and it makes that extremely fast clicking sound. What happens is the circuit turns on and draws the power supply below the voltage required to hold in the relay or solenoid contacts and then the circuit shuts off and the voltage supply goes back up and re-latches the relay or solenoid and this just continues and continues. Almost without fail it's a ground issue or a power supply issue. Sometimes back feeding is involved where the circuit tries to find a ground path through a light bulb or something else and that just adds extra fun to the diagnosis 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@swm_tech5806
@swm_tech5806 15 күн бұрын
Since you can see fuel pump relay glitching my next step would be to install a relay breakout between fuel pump relay and fuse box. Then monitor the power & ground on the control portion of relay with oscilloscope and see if its the power or ground dropping out. Really enjoy seeing how you work through these problems and it helps me in my work as heavy truck mechanic.
@jeremyah78
@jeremyah78 15 күн бұрын
Yepper
@crasher88
@crasher88 15 күн бұрын
I am an automotive technician and I stive to be a actuate as Ivan
@DJ29Joesph
@DJ29Joesph 14 күн бұрын
Love those breakout devices
@OldManBadly
@OldManBadly 15 күн бұрын
Only a minute or two in, and i can say I have already seem something similar. There is probably a ground out that is re-routing power as a result through the 4 way flasher module, which is why it is flashing.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 15 күн бұрын
Interesting thought... The cadence is very similar to a turn signal! 🤔
@Saykes1994
@Saykes1994 15 күн бұрын
29:57 Jumper cable from battery ground to engine block.
@jimjaques4030
@jimjaques4030 15 күн бұрын
The display says April 1. The car is just pranking you!😂
@lukerudolph1022
@lukerudolph1022 15 күн бұрын
Plus April 1 was a Monday, not a Tuesday. That must be the problem.
@volvo09
@volvo09 15 күн бұрын
It got a new job as a turn signal
@chrisi1909
@chrisi1909 15 күн бұрын
@@lukerudolph1022 What year ? :-)
@chrisbentleywalkingandrambling
@chrisbentleywalkingandrambling 15 күн бұрын
My thoughts exactly 😂
@lukerudolph1022
@lukerudolph1022 15 күн бұрын
The display says Tue April 1. But April 1, 2024 was a Monday. The last time April 1 was a Tuesday was 2014. Very weird indeed.
@OzFrog48Z
@OzFrog48Z 15 күн бұрын
I would start by turning as many electrical accessories on as possible and see if all systems are affected. For example if the running lights flicker, the blower motor speed fluctuates, or the ac compressor cuts on and off you know it's something that affects the whole car, not just certain systems. That can help save a lot of time when determining what to look for.
@lvsqcsl
@lvsqcsl 15 күн бұрын
I paused the video at 13:01 and all I can say is this is very similar to an issue Eric O. had on a 2019 Tahoe/Yukon that had a bad ground on the frame that had been corroded by salt. Apparently, you are providing a ground by changing positions with the transmission switchgear, etc. Seems like Steven King wrote a book about a car like this, but it was a 1958 Plymouth. Just goes to show you all cars have issues, even the ones that have a "T" on the front. Ivan, you are just facinated with the fact this car is behaving badly. I don't think I have seen you this excited in a long time. GREAT VIDEO!
@volvo09
@volvo09 15 күн бұрын
Not an uncommon problem... I've heard service bulletins to check the body ground on older Ford trucks because the transmission ends up being the ground, this in turn eats away bearings when you drive and you keep getting repeat transmission failure.
@paulsz6194
@paulsz6194 15 күн бұрын
Christine?
@danielhaidar4802
@danielhaidar4802 15 күн бұрын
But the only thing why isn’t it acting up when voltage is under 14v
@michaelgraham2347
@michaelgraham2347 15 күн бұрын
Scotty wouldn't believe this if he didn't see it.
@lvsqcsl
@lvsqcsl 14 күн бұрын
@@paulsz6194 You got it.
@russellhltn1396
@russellhltn1396 15 күн бұрын
I'd start by measuring voltage between the engine block and battery ground. A working alternator will stress that connection. Engine movement when going in/out of gear will mechanically test that connection.
@Stambo59
@Stambo59 14 күн бұрын
I was thinking that too but it just seems too constant and reproduceable, any issue with a ground like that I have ever seen is generally far more intermittent. Having said that, I would have no idea where to look next. The wiring diagram would probably be a good start, see what controls that relay and what else it is connected to.
@mbasiletti
@mbasiletti 15 күн бұрын
The temp gage lost its damping for some reason- it is now showing ACTUAL coolant temperature which does vary as you go through different engine power ranges. NOrmally the system keeps this steady as long as within a given "normal" range.
@user-oj3xh2vh2i
@user-oj3xh2vh2i 15 күн бұрын
Hey Ivan, we had a 2002 Aussie Ford in the workshop at one time. The Instrument cluster would go nuts with things flashing on & off, the temp gauge with a mind of it's own, tacho bouncing etc, very similar to what you have there. The problem only existed with the engine running, the car ran great with no apparent issues except a stall at idle sometimes. The problem turned out to be inductive spikes from the ignition coil pack, we changed the coil pack & everything was perfect once again. It did take some head scratching to work it out. This may not be related but it reminded me of this problem Ford.
@richard1835
@richard1835 15 күн бұрын
Thank you PHAD. Appreciate your hard work in bringing us these videos.
@RussellBooth1977
@RussellBooth1977 15 күн бұрын
That was a similar deal as the story that I was telling you about a while back when I diagnosed & repaired my great uncles stepdaughters Australian built 1997 Ford EL Falcon Futura which was powered by Ford Australias "Thriftpower" 4 litre inline six cylinder engine. It was intermittently doing exactly the same thing & the engine was stalling back in 2022,it eventually needed to be towed to where I can fix it which was at my dads house because every time she would place it into drive then the engine would stall out. I found out the problem was under the steering column which was where the main ignition feed to the engines ECU & ignition system as well as the rest of the cars electrics was connected to a crappy aftermarket engine immobilizer which was actually what was causing that "clickety click" sound & flashing lights on the dash as well as a stalled out engine. The first owner did a bit of a botched installation by running the main ignition switch feed directly through the immobilizer unit instead of a relay switched by the module which was 25 years old & the electrical connectors which were used in house wiring they used to join the wires. I just cut the main yellow/red ignition wires then added an extension piece to extend the length of the wire then I soldered both ends together as how Ford originally wired it up at the Broadmeadows factory in Victoria. So I totally bypassed the aftermarket engine immobilizer/car alarm then the car drove flawlessly, she has been driving the car for the last 2 years without any problems. So in the Avalon,if there's no additional modules such as the engine immobilizer then it's likely going to be the ECU which is faulty,I know that in my 2002 model Holden VY SS Commodore I had a faulty ABS module cause the air conditioning system not to work or cut out as well as making the instrument cluster go haywire. So it was messing around with the body control module,in the Holden Commodores that faulty ABS module was also known to cause other problems like causing the alternator to overcharge the battery, etc !
@nowayout73
@nowayout73 15 күн бұрын
I remember an aftermarket fuel pump relay that was incorrect causing a similar issue way back and replacing it with an OE relay fixed the issue
@nickheiland3397
@nickheiland3397 15 күн бұрын
Exactly what you said at the end of the video is what I would do next. Figure out what's connected between the relay clicking and the screen. Of that the check engine light went out for a bit. But none the less time to sit down n do ur research.
@randallgoldapp9510
@randallgoldapp9510 15 күн бұрын
I've seen something like this before. It turned out to be a poor ground between engine and frame. It was grounding through the drivetrain.
@tam1381
@tam1381 15 күн бұрын
Ivan back in the 80s. Volvo had a similar problem with them Temp and Fuel gauges. In Volvo's case it was a voltage stabiliser fitted onto the rear of the dash panel. Replace it and it was cured. Only saying.
@ianjeffery3762
@ianjeffery3762 15 күн бұрын
I wondered if it was a voltage regulator too
@agostinodibella9939
@agostinodibella9939 15 күн бұрын
This a good one Ivan! I can’t wait for part 2!
@alexanderzubar9593
@alexanderzubar9593 14 күн бұрын
“This is the COOLEST car ever!” Ivan’s version of discovering cheats in a video game. 🤣🤣🤣 I would scope the power and grounds at the instrument panel and that relay and go from there. This should be fun!!
@daveyboy924
@daveyboy924 15 күн бұрын
Hi Ivan, love your work. My theory is this: You have a voltage regulation problem of some sort at or after the alternator. The car doesn’t like anything over 12 volts, which is what should be regulated to the 12v components such as the dash. Seems like that relay is not getting regulated voltage of 12 volts between it and the alternator. Noticed no clicking happens when you have the car running just off 12 volts battery signal. This is the route I would take. Check the voltage regulator on the alternator, and then trace voltage from that point in between the wiring where it leads into that relay. It could be the alternator regulator is bad, the relay is bad, or some of the wiring in between is causing the voltage not to regulate down to 12 volts so the system is happy like it’s supposed to.
@patrickhill8748
@patrickhill8748 15 күн бұрын
Great video!! And I really enjoy all the fantastic input from the fans on similar issues and the experts out there. Thank you all!!
@richard1835
@richard1835 15 күн бұрын
That is a very important thing to do the way you scan for codes then look at live data. I am able to scan better because you showed me that. I appreciate you and wish you the best in life.
@abdulhkeemalhadhrami
@abdulhkeemalhadhrami 15 күн бұрын
This is Ivan's "Top Best Thing" After Christmass!
@mrblonde2013
@mrblonde2013 15 күн бұрын
Very cool, i love the fact that you are excited by unusual problem cars. Eric and Bernie display a similar attitude. Its something i try to emulate when i am faced with a broken car, it puts you in the right frame of mind. Interestingly, looking at the diagrams, that looked to be the C/open relay you pulled. So the next logical step would be studying a wiring diagram to see whats connected to that relay. I am waiting impatiently for part 2. Thanks Ivan.
@Triggerman1976
@Triggerman1976 15 күн бұрын
My hypothesis: the relay provides a ground path and when it’s fluttering the system is hunting for a ground.
@bobcombs7138
@bobcombs7138 15 күн бұрын
Guess it's time to pull a wiring diagram and see what's in common with that relay. I'm suspicious of the control side. Is it a power or ground issue that is in question or maybe a module. Can't wait for the next Video! Thanks for taking the time to post this one!
@billj4859
@billj4859 15 күн бұрын
Check the panel that the fuel pump plugs into. He stated the problem got worse when it rained. Plugged drain in the cowel may have water leaking into that area and its corroded.
@compwiz878
@compwiz878 15 күн бұрын
Here's my opinions... when it was stalling out you could hear the whine from the alternator when it was hooked back up. when you hear that familliar whine of the alternagtor in my experience its something drawling way to much current/amperage possibly a direct short to ground , but a dead battery can do this too if it wants more juice the alternator can provide. This usually makes the belt squeek or if its a near dead or dead short to ground it'll stall the engine it might not kill the battery but its enough strain on the electrical system to stall the engine after you hear the overloaded alternator start whinning . Im saying these seneros because vehicle electrical systems operates on DC current and don't like it if any form of AC current which will make things act wonky in so many differnt ways. Motors and light bulbs wont care about the AC on the system. Also .. An alternator turns the DC battery voltage into AC current as the engine spins the alternator and its Stepped up to anywhere from low voltage AC to lets say 120volts AC for example like residential electrical service But also its in a 3 phase star/delta configuration. There's a Diode package inside the alternator that takes the 3phase power and rectifies it back to DC its still not at battery voltage yet. and the rectifier also takes the 3 phase power and turns it into single phase power. at This point the power is not a clean DC power its almost clean its a pulsating DC current. AS the Battery can and will Filter the pulsating DC into a Clean useable DC current. as it has capacitive properties to it all that is needed to stop the pulsating DC and make clean DC is 1 or many capacitors that will smooth and filter DC output of the diode rectifier . Then sends it to the voltage regulator and is regulated down to 12 volts to 14 volts of semi useable DC. the regulator does add some filtering of the pulsed DC. The unclean DC doesnt mess with Things like if there is AC on the system. AC is an NO NO on DC circuits and devices. unless its powering a light bulb . Like Ivan said You'll need a OSCOPE to see the waveform on the system . AC will show up as noise and an actual sine wave depending on the severity of AC present. A clean DC signal will look like a FLAT line on the scope with a frequency of 100HZ. Pulsed DC will look like morse code with long and short dashes that alternate high and low. A Digital volt meter can show AC on DC systems but it can only show the voltage of the AC . You have to put the meter on AC to read AC on DC powerd circuits.
@thedepartmentofredundancyd5160
@thedepartmentofredundancyd5160 15 күн бұрын
That fault is wild. Love it. Can't wait for part 2 :D
@r.weaver3769
@r.weaver3769 15 күн бұрын
Ran across one just like this, flashing clicking, stalling, the engine to body ground was bad, all green and flaking apart.
@danieljurgill1681
@danieljurgill1681 15 күн бұрын
The relay has GREEN on the contacts ! The fuel pump is a large current draw, and it is going on and off ,spiking the system. Keep going.!
@luckyguy600
@luckyguy600 15 күн бұрын
It did sort of look nasty. And the position of it with salt-laden wet boots knocking it. Where is the cover for it? The carpet gets salty wet, and right underneath that relay. Change to the relay. Cheap even for Toyota's inflated prices.
@disgruntledcanuck
@disgruntledcanuck 15 күн бұрын
Wouldn't you figure that would cause running issues, though? Car runs rock solid. Wonder if that truly is the fp relay.
@danieljurgill1681
@danieljurgill1681 15 күн бұрын
@@disgruntledcanuck visible green . No idea where it woll lead. Could be something behind that relay or fuse box has more crusty green...Just a clue right now. I remember how a relay sounds when my battery cables got loose or the battery is low...click, click ,click click... Same sound, different solenoid...something to investigate .
@jeffmiller6100
@jeffmiller6100 15 күн бұрын
Love this diag so far. ❤
@leonardthyme
@leonardthyme 14 күн бұрын
I bought a low mileage Corolla with an automatic transmission once that acted crazy. It turned out to be the speedometer. I pulled out the cluster and replaced only the speedometer with a junk yard replacement and it drove like a new car. Toyotas are a different breed.
@Jimmyky77
@Jimmyky77 15 күн бұрын
Wow that is a Very Strange Electrical Issue Ivan, Looking Forward to part 2
@larryberry2436
@larryberry2436 15 күн бұрын
This car reminds me of a GM vehicle that I had many years ago. All lights flashed when moving the gearshift lever and at various speeds. The only ground was through the gearshift cable and/or speedo cable. Good body ground, bad engine ground, replaced the bad negative battery cable, the shift cable and the Speedo cable as they were cooked from the current.
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 15 күн бұрын
Crazy stuff. Thanks Ivan!
@KaldekBoch
@KaldekBoch 15 күн бұрын
Wow I can't wait for the final diagnosis on this one!
@ThisIS_Insane
@ThisIS_Insane 15 күн бұрын
To the analytical mind, this is content GOLD! The problem is unique, the symptoms Many! Get after it, Ivan, and rock this car's ghost! 👻👻👻
@mikiethebikie
@mikiethebikie 15 күн бұрын
My money is the installation of the “after market” radio.
@paulmoffat9306
@paulmoffat9306 15 күн бұрын
That 'clicking' sounds like a 1960's TeleFax machine!
@codyarizona4925
@codyarizona4925 15 күн бұрын
Wiring diagram will be interesting to see what kind of power/ ground distribution this vehicle has, and what exactly powers up those relays. Can't say what my next step would be until I see a wiring diagram. Those older Toyotas can be very complex. Great job gathering evidence so far 👍. Looking forward to part 2.
@mydogpeaches1
@mydogpeaches1 15 күн бұрын
the original owner must have loved going to the club to hear some serious techno lol 😂
@KendrasEdge757
@KendrasEdge757 15 күн бұрын
“This is the coolest thing ever!!!” Haha love it!!
@ritchieschofield1185
@ritchieschofield1185 15 күн бұрын
I'm not gonna be able to sleep until I've seen part 2 Ivan. I'd love to work with you on this one. !
@pb3033
@pb3033 15 күн бұрын
Most Interesting ⚡⚡!!
@davidreuter5260
@davidreuter5260 15 күн бұрын
Eric O did a similar video a couple years ago on a Chevy truck where the dashboard went ballistic. Solution: He installed a separate ground wire from engine block to chassis. My 04 Blazer did the same thing and the ground wire also fixed my run-away dashboard lights. Thanks Eric!
@TwisteeTheDefiant1
@TwisteeTheDefiant1 15 күн бұрын
love seeing you get excited over cars showing off SUPER weird behaviors but holy shit thats something that would make me leave the battery disconnected until its at the shop god knows what that electrical ghost would turn on.
@adamtrombino106
@adamtrombino106 15 күн бұрын
Wiring diagram and see what controls that relay, and if it shares a power, say off a maxi fuse, with anything else. Same thing with the gnd. Does it share a common gnd. I'd have to start there. I think the trans code and coolant temp if true, may be separate issues. Who knows!?
@yeahitskimmel
@yeahitskimmel 13 күн бұрын
I've still got like 90 min left in this saga but I'm gonna attempt a 1st quarter prediction of a failing relay with that clicking
@billybaloney7769
@billybaloney7769 15 күн бұрын
Have a 07 Buick Allure, did almost same thing, 2 yrs ago. Pulled the ECM (has a casing ground). Aluminum body was corroded. Wire brushed it and all dash/radio/keyless start issues vanished.
@Kro_man_tx
@Kro_man_tx 15 күн бұрын
I would be curious to see power into and out of the ecu. But I agree with others that it could be a grounding issue. And, i have seen ungrounded aftermarket radios cause issues as well with power feedback through electronic circuits.
@stefan.m0000
@stefan.m0000 15 күн бұрын
i remember a steven king roman,she drove herself just after midnite😂🎉christine
@knowone6214
@knowone6214 15 күн бұрын
beat on the dash when it screws up....sounds like a shorted cable
@Michael-xs5ef
@Michael-xs5ef 14 күн бұрын
I see the dash date is April 1st - April Fool's Day ! Nice one Ivan !
@CedroCron
@CedroCron 15 күн бұрын
Wow, you don't see that every day! What a great case for your channel.
@thdevilmancometh
@thdevilmancometh 15 күн бұрын
My guess is you forgot to disconnect the main bat charge lead from alt. The diode pack is bad in the alt and its allowing ac voltage to ripple in the line messing with the electronics. I would personally hook up a dvom on a/c scale and see if detecting 1v or more. Just because you unplug the reg plug...doesnt mean it cant ripple ac back through the main cable.
@12brmien
@12brmien 15 күн бұрын
Detective Ivan on the job!
@billjohnson2000
@billjohnson2000 15 күн бұрын
My money is on a cracked solder joint, and you make a “No Parts Required” repair. Also, I noticed an aftermarket radio……I like to quickly disconnect aftermarket accessories b4 diagnosing electrical gremlins. Just me.
@josephwash109
@josephwash109 15 күн бұрын
I suspect a compromised main body ground. The thick ground cable from the engine block to the battery is likely fine since the engine cranks normally. The fuel pump and other items ground through the body of the car, and by removing loads, the bad ground may be able to pass just enough current to work. I figure the problem will be located at the body ground wire where it attaches to the negative battery terminal.
@davemc3650
@davemc3650 15 күн бұрын
Check grounds and add extra. I had afew of those with bad ground and also alternator is going bad without any charging issues but lights flicker
@richrich8436
@richrich8436 15 күн бұрын
My first thought was something shorts when the clicking noise is heard. Lowering voltage on other circuits. I would pull fuses one at a time or monitor individual circuit voltage.
@billburkart9087
@billburkart9087 15 күн бұрын
I was thinking Alternator just before you mentioned it because of the temperature gauge. I'm curios why you didn't check the DTC code yet. I saw a mention of the turn signal flasher and agree the clicking sound made me the think of the emergency flasher. Good head scratcher. I have a feeling you all ready have a good idea what it is. Are green boogers in our future? lol
@davidp7163
@davidp7163 15 күн бұрын
I had an older mazda rx7 that was going batty. Tracked it down to thr center instrument cluster that everything seemed to pass through that had a boat load of cold solder joints. Fixed, no parts required.
@chrisland169
@chrisland169 15 күн бұрын
It's funny that many of us give you what to look for but since it's already found ,but this one is easy to diagnose because it's not intermitent . wiring diag scan, amps loads circuits check basic stuff for me.
@matthewmcmaster2731
@matthewmcmaster2731 15 күн бұрын
I would check the wiring going to the fuel pump for signs of damage or corrosion. I'm sure the car has a in-tank fuel pump but that doesn't mean the connection isn't damaged somewhere. The pump is shorting to the unibody. Possibly.
@user-zc6dn9ms2l
@user-zc6dn9ms2l 15 күн бұрын
Fuel pump collar loose . It destroyed by proxy the relay . Often the wrong tube type on fuel pump is used
@nicholaswatson3896
@nicholaswatson3896 15 күн бұрын
I like trying to guess as the vid plays. At 13.26 I'm wondering if the flickering is linked to the seatbelt reminder 😂
@jarroyolaw
@jarroyolaw 14 күн бұрын
That dashboard is like a bad Eastern European disco club!!!
@blueskiesmobileauto4253
@blueskiesmobileauto4253 15 күн бұрын
Man this seems all too familiar with a 2010 Honda crv with a bad ignition coil striking the computer randomly. Problem only occurred while running with cel flicker and random stall and it drove perfect with no misfires before changing the coil. I was getting a pcm internal fault code and etc relay control code. PCM and throttle body was replaced and it ended up needing #4 ignition coil. At least I know now the car has good powers and grounds to the pcm and the complete etc relay control circuit! Your symptoms are a bit different because the relay going crazy for me was the etc relay (throttle body) Cool car Ivan!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 15 күн бұрын
Electronics can do very weird things when components interact...the symptoms on this Toyota were quite entertaining...flashing, buzzing, but drove so smoothly!!
@THEDRAGONBOOSTER8
@THEDRAGONBOOSTER8 15 күн бұрын
Who needs all these electronics..Great video..
@JP-uu2rw
@JP-uu2rw 12 күн бұрын
In the beginning of the video The reason the problem improved when you put it in Drive is the RPM's lowered and put out less voltage
@davidzajano1983
@davidzajano1983 15 күн бұрын
In the movie The Sting I believe it was Pau Newman's character who stated thatthe perfect con was the one in which the target never knew that they had been swindled. Ivan, I congratulate you for running the perfect con. The smile on your face when you encounter a diagnostic dilemma clearly suggests that folks are paying you to do something that provides you with a degree of joy sufficient to warrant you paying them for the entertainment value you get while solving these problems.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 15 күн бұрын
I do enjoy my "job" ;)
@mrjsv4935
@mrjsv4935 15 күн бұрын
Interesting one again :D My guess is something wrong with the wiring for fuel pump / fuel gauge, or ground related to them. That relay may be faulty too after all that crazy clicking :D
@billsmith5166
@billsmith5166 15 күн бұрын
Wiring in the harness that was disconnected, the alternator itself or connectors on that harness.
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT 15 күн бұрын
Crazy case, Ivan! At a first glance it seems that there is a bad ground return somewhere, and main consumers modulate other modules / relays. Very curious to see how this goes :-)
@edwinlomonaco6754
@edwinlomonaco6754 15 күн бұрын
Throttle body on Toyotas do this too. No codes. Clean throttle body and recheck.
@JeremiahMuchangi
@JeremiahMuchangi 15 күн бұрын
Switch contacts under the steering column have given such a behavior when the contacts get dusty.
@jdtractorman7445
@jdtractorman7445 15 күн бұрын
I think looking at the schematic for the transmission actuator code may reveal something. Ultimately, I think it is a power/ground issue with the PCM/Engine computer. I'm curious where the trans. actuator gets power from. I had a car I worked on once that kept setting intermittent trans. actuator codes. What I found is the fuel pump relay feeds power to the trans. actuators and the crankshaft sensor was bad, cutting in and out as the engine warmed up. Replaced the sensor and the car was fine after that. As I mentioned though, I think it's a power/ground issue.
@Sandmansa
@Sandmansa 15 күн бұрын
This is a really good case study. I'm not sure where to start looking just yet. But my first impression is that we may have a poor power delivery or ground issue to the BCM. Let's see what ALLDATA has for us.
@craigdowney6438
@craigdowney6438 15 күн бұрын
my brother once had an oldlate 60's dodge where the fuel gauge would only work if the headlights were off. when the lights were on the gauge would go to empty. there was a bad ground on the tank float.
@rodneymiddleton9624
@rodneymiddleton9624 15 күн бұрын
Tricky one. On the Toyota really weird flaky stuff it has lead me back to the corroded capacitors in the PCM. Just wondering if you have the same issue. Thanks Ivan!
@brianw8963
@brianw8963 15 күн бұрын
Cool. Prndl park light out raises my suspicion meter. Powers and grounds, and or pcm likely suspects. I’ve not yet addressed the random ticking in cluster on ol’ red, but did notice it only occurs while in “D”, which is the prndl light that is out. Don’t yet know how or why, but seems like a back feed issue in that circuit?
@nevillegoddard4966
@nevillegoddard4966 15 күн бұрын
Definitely a weird one Ive! Could it be green crusties on a power/earth circuit somewhere? The rev-dependence is odd. Could that relate to varying alternator output thus supply voltage? Part 2 is gunna be interesting!
@macmanjimmy69
@macmanjimmy69 15 күн бұрын
Adjust the regulator to 13.2155 volts call it good ! LMAO great video
@volvo09
@volvo09 15 күн бұрын
"I fixed it, turn on this big switch here after you start the car... it adds 60 amps worth of electrical load through a space heater to bring voltage down."
@OtisPlunk
@OtisPlunk 15 күн бұрын
Crazy. Sweet problem! I guess I would do some swap Tronics with the relay and check the grounds at the ECU make sure they can carry current. Since the clicking sounds like a turn signal and since there is a reported rain issue I would wanna explore a weird backfeed problem.
@keysautorepair6038
@keysautorepair6038 15 күн бұрын
I have seen some alternators fail from grease getting on the brushes would show high voltage old school 90s.
@aidanh4550
@aidanh4550 15 күн бұрын
Haven't watched all the way through but noticed the cadence of the clicking correlate with engine RPM. Also the coolant temp gauge seemed to correlate with it too (perhaps because voltage is going up?). My guess is it's a ground related to the charging system
@aidanh4550
@aidanh4550 15 күн бұрын
Ah you checked the voltage. What a weird issue!
@cyberhornthedragon
@cyberhornthedragon 15 күн бұрын
now my 4runner would click its fuel pump relay when the alternator was under volting due to the engine not being above 850 rpm (rolling slow in 1st gear in parking lots) but when i got a new alternator it fixed that
@crasher88
@crasher88 15 күн бұрын
Next step is to see how that relay is controlled and it's power and distribution. My gut says there is a wire some where chaffed or nearly broken. When you were test driving the car and putting it into and out of gear the problem would come and go. That leads me to a wire being stretched while the engine is rocking on its mounts.
@nickheiland3397
@nickheiland3397 15 күн бұрын
I also remember watching a video a while ago on a Avalon n behind the center dash screen that's flashing they get corrosion on a connector some how n cause weird stuff. Not sure how that would have anything to do with the fuel pump thou.
@davidreuter5260
@davidreuter5260 15 күн бұрын
Sorry, my mistake. The new ground was from the engine block to the body, not the chassis. No problems with crazy dash lights for last two years.
@kthwkr
@kthwkr 13 күн бұрын
It's clicking at a rate that matches, The Who, Tommy, Christmas. It's singing that background vocal Tommy Tommy Tommy Tommy...
@kerrywitherspoon1257
@kerrywitherspoon1257 15 күн бұрын
I’m. Curious would your voltage issue be same if you hooked charger to power lead at alternator and ground on engine. If you hadent done Subaru would you taken same path on diagnostic can’t wait for part 2
@dustcommander100
@dustcommander100 15 күн бұрын
I knew someone who had a car that looked exactly like this one. It had electrical problems immediately after purchase and went back to the dealer many times, never to be repaired. I think they put a piece of tape over the blinking light and drove it until replacing the car years later. I'm curious about the voltage and ripple on the 5V supply coming out of the computer - but with the fuel pump being known to be the source of clicking, I'd look for a resistance in the circuit sending power to the fuel pump relay. I'm thinking that when the relay contact closes and the fuel pump draws current, the voltage to the relay contact is dropping. This much I do know for sure, this Toyota will be in submission soon!
@leonardgucciardo8386
@leonardgucciardo8386 15 күн бұрын
Had a very similar problem with a Pontiac G6. Found ground G105 bad. My best guess is an engine to chassis ground. Putting car in gear when it stops is a good clue. When you put car in gear engine and transmission tighten up in the suspension causing a ground connection to make a better connection.
@luckyguy600
@luckyguy600 15 күн бұрын
True. I usually change out/ or add an engine ground at least every 10 years. All sorts of issues go away. Especially in the audio section. A good weaved ground costs like 6 bucks/ great ends to catch a bolt or whatever. That is what I do.
@RobertJohnson-kv6dr
@RobertJohnson-kv6dr 15 күн бұрын
At a guess, there was a big clue in the email. Maybe a red herring but cudtomer said a garage had cleaned the earth and it went away for a day. Could that be a coincidence ? Certainly acts like a bad earth, now I've had a guess can't wait to see the outcome.
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