Well… That’s NOT What I Wanted…

[@brandoncase4952]

Hey brother just a tip I did with my 6048..since your lines run in your basement, tap into one of those and put a valve to fill your boiler..then no messing with a garden hose when it's cold out if you need water in the future..i absolutely love it!

[@oviduran]

Many many thanks Jay. To me, this video is more valuable than you can imagine. Liked the way you took us through every step and figured it out. Now I know what to do and what to look for when this happens to me too. It will happen to all of us eventually. Now, I am planning on getting a couple of fuses and a display as backups for when it does happen. Thanks to Bruce too for the assistance and parts supplier. You may not know it yet, but this video is gold.

[@HomesteadJay]

I was happy to make it cause this portion of the machine I don’t know about. I’ve never messed with the computer or the temp sensor so officially I’ve changed every part that’s changeable on this machine hahah it’s a nice feeling knowing it legit inside and out!

[@tractordan933]

I replaced that same module a few years ago when I had an electrical problem. Turned out the malfunction was caused by a mouse that got into (literally) the plug in receptacle and the module was actually not harmed. Note, I am typing this as I listen to the video.

[@HomesteadJay]

Wow no doubt! Pretty good sealed area behind there so surprised it got in there!

[@ricklamb1325]

Hey man I’ve been there! Fired up my central classic last week. I’m a newbie. 2nd year. Started a fire and water temp coming up nicely. All looks good. Go down to the basement, cycle all my valves, and no hot water coming in! Run back and forth to the boiler and basement like 40 times 😂. After about an hour, and a boil over on the boiler, I’m convinced the circulator pump is bad. Stay with me here. So now my boiler is boiling over and I have to get the wood out! So take all the burning wood out of the boiler and place it all over the driveway (it was really dry here and I was afraid I’d start a brush fire), call my boiler dealer and order a pump. Pick up the pump for $250, install it, fire the boiler again, and same thing!! Now I’m spitting chicklets, cursing, and my wife goes down with me to the basement. She says, “are you sure you turned on all the valves?” As she said this I realize I missed one that was hidden behind the water heater, flip it, and here comes the hot water. It was a real Clark Griswold moment! So my point is, don’t be ashamed and always listen to your wife. And of course now I have a backup circulating pump 🤟

[@TheJedc43]

So when I first inherited my CB 6048 when O bought my house in 2010, the people at the stove store made me buy a extra solenoid for the door damper so I would have it when it goes. I was told that it happens often. I still have the new part in basement. Never needed it. I don't know why you wouldn't think that the solenoid was the problem if you were getting power to it. If your getting power to it then it should be activated.

[@HomesteadJay]

The fuse was bad and I was testing the wrong side of the lead. I changed the fuse and the solenoid worked. The computer did blow too so it was an interesting day haha

[@northcountrytrapper]

This video should help some people. After 20 years of working on and having an outdoor boiler I always keep at least one of each item that can fail in stock on hand always!

[@HomesteadJay]

Yes indeed! It’s good to have spare parts. I will make a video on this!

[@mosquitok833]

I had my heat exchanger sprint a bad leak last winter. All the night before I was headed out of town for a week. New heat exchanger and now added shut offs and diverter.

[@VicsYard]

As you might know I repair 90% of all my stuff. Electrical is normally not my department. Learned to take my time and map things out. I like to continuity test fuses if I can’t clearly see anything. Great video sir. 👍🏼

[@HomesteadJay]

Yes indeed electrical is not my strong suite either hahaha

[@crazyman3157]

Great video Jay. The simplest things can mess a day up fast. In the end, you figured it out and found the source. Water out and water in the control module. Leave it to water. lol. Glade you figured it out and got the Central boiler up and going again. Pass a hello on to Homestead Jim for me. 👍🏻👍🏻

[@HomesteadJay]

Glad we got it fixed. Now I know that machine inside and out hahaha literally. I will tell pops!

[@thomasgreene5750]

If the fuse is mostly blown, with just a bit of connection left, it will show a proper supply voltage when no current is being drawn, but as soon as the device switches on, the voltage downstream of the fuse will drop due to the resistance to current flow.

[@HomesteadJay]

That’s exactly what happened for sure cause it tested good but wouldn’t function!

[@tractordan933]

One thing I have learned (the hard and expensive way) is to always check the simple or easiest things first whether trouble shoot an antique tractor or an expensive laboratory chemistry analyzer. Don't assume you know what is wrong from the start. Can't tell you how many times I have jumped into an electrical problem on one of my tractors just to find the problem to be a poor ground wire contact after spend plenty on unneeded parts.

[@HomesteadJay]

Indeed all good advice. I’ve done that before on older motorcycles or trucks where you have to start at legit basics and work up. Thank you for the reminder! It’s nice to have

[@DavidFaith-b8y]

What a great video. Very informative. I'm glad you got it up and running.

[@HomesteadJay]

It was as real as it gets. I wanted to document how I navigated it lol little nervous but glad we sorted it out

[@DavidFaith-b8y]

@HomesteadJay when I started watching your video I was saying to myself "check the fuse" then you put it back. I always put a meter on fuses because you never know

[@DanishSpeakerChannel]

ah those pesky control modules always malfunction.. that is why people here in denmark want the old boilers back because those boilers work without electricity very simple.. however i dont mind fixing electronics and wiring but its still a headache to wake up to a mess like that!!

[@HomesteadJay]

This is simple compared to the new phase 2 epa ones haha those have a zillion computers and sensors haha I think the electronics on this machine are still pretty primitive which I love. Now I know the machine inside and out

[@RickZimmerman-c1i]

Take the cover off the front and check to see. The solinoid has stuck on ours. Also check the damper and checking to see how it seals. The top looks pretty clean

[@HomesteadJay]

Indeed. I’m gonna double check all that again

[@taumbannon5289]

You fixed it yourself. Self sufficient. Nice job.

[@HomesteadJay]

Try to be!

[@oscartheg6674]

My brother was a mechanic for 37 years + 5 years in the Marine corps he said that sometimes it's the simplest things that can go wrong but he also said that a fuse can go bad and it is still looks connected because it'll break under the metal. Just sharing in my limited knowledge.

[@HomesteadJay]

That’s 100% appreciated! Good to known

[@davidriggs3195]

I had a pin hole develope over night a couple years ago. When i opened the door, water came pouring out,That's a sinking feeling! Then shoveling out wet ash with the consistency of cement and charcoal floating around in the firebox!

[@HomesteadJay]

Ugh I was afraid of that happening! Always am afraid of that happening

[@GlenKent-n8n]

Great content. At least it was a relatively warm day. My luck it would have been 5 below zero with a north wind.

[@HomesteadJay]

My pump went out a few years back and man it was cold hahaha

[@RCAFpolarexpress]

Good Evening Sir, This is An OUTSTANDING Live Technical Investigation Sir 👌🧐👍Be Well Sir Cheers 🍻🍻

[@HomesteadJay]

Thanks Dave!

[@tractordan933]

Just bring your water level to the bottom of the site glass with a cold start. I realize your water is not cold but maybe cool by the time you refill. When you come back to operating temp your water level should be near full not over flowing at 185 degrees. Add more rust inhibitor too. I have been running the same unit since 2006. I hope you just had a boil over. Look for sources of air leakage, around the door, the draft door needs cleaned as creosote build up there can cause air leaks. Build smaller fires in the shoulder seasons. I approach my OWB every morning with my fingers crossed knowing it has to be nearing its end of life , so far so good. Good luck (although it's not luck) but you know what I mean.

[@HomesteadJay]

I thought it was over when I woke up to 196 and half water was gone haha but still hanging in there. I will add more moly armor and test the water after it circulates for 48 hours. I hope to get many years out of the machine! Hope you get lots of time on yours too!

[@yinglyca1]

Always test fuses with an ohmmeter . never rely on your eyes when checking fuses.

[@HomesteadJay]

Great point!

[@STROKEnDISTANCE]

another log burnt and another mystery solved! Great work man

[@HomesteadJay]

Indeed!

[@DanielAtkinsFirewood]

4 hours later, I would have pulled my hair out. Especially over a 2 dollar fuse..

[@HomesteadJay]

Exactly lol

[@HomesteadJay]

What a pain lol

[@peteanderson1714]

always ohm out a fuse. they can also break inside the end cap and "look" good.

[@HomesteadJay]

Indeed! Good call

[@Barton_Motors_Ltd]

Tricky. It’s been a good machine otherwise for you over the years eh. I’m glad my old Heatmor has no digital gauges at all. All oldschool Honeywell thermostats and controls with dials. Less to go wrong

[@HomesteadJay]

This machine is primitive compared to most so I am still happy with it

[@Treestofirewood]

Well now you pretty much have a new machine. Glad you figured it out. Long live the classics.

[@HomesteadJay]

I know legit every part of this machine now hahaha thanks for watching brother. So simple seeing all the sensors and wiring. I love it even more

[@Treestofirewood]

@ hell yeah man. Today I started shoveling a ton of scraps in. Freight train in it. lol

[@GlenKent-n8n]

@@Treestofirewood I hope you made a video of this. I will be watching your channel to find out.

[@Treestofirewood]

@@GlenKent-n8n I will now. If I remember I will do it in the morning. Don’t like doing it much because it smokes like crazy.

[@Glock2201]

The first thing that came to my mind was when was the last time you replaced the rope gasket around the door? I have had to do that a couple of times when it has overheated. I would also consider replacing that circulator after the water got that hot. That really is not that much water to lose considering the temp was probably over 200 at some point.

[@HomesteadJay]

I did the door maybe a year ago. It seems ok. Wouldn’t hurt to change again haha it’s easy enough

[@paulm6832]

You said the fuse was good earlier. Did you just do a visual or ohm it out? Glad you're back in action.

[@HomesteadJay]

I did a visual but under real close look the fuse is broken. It’s a spiral fuse not a blade fuse so it was difficult to see it was broken. I couldn’t believe it when I really zoomed in on it! Luckily we’re good though!

[@daviddrennan5293]

See you guys in 5 hrs 😂 ......exactly my scenario something fairly simple should take 1 hour turns into 5 ! At least it's sorted out now 👍 Excellent video

[@HomesteadJay]

Always happens lol

[@johnkiser2658]

Ours has a safety thing that makes it drop under 140 to reset after it overheats. Then works fine again. Drives me nuts

[@HomesteadJay]

Hmmm interesting!

[@markhuizinga1815]

As I am watching this I am firing mine up for the winter

[@HomesteadJay]

Heck yes! Hopefully no issues!

[@JoshLeach32180]

Better now than in the dead of winter when its colder than your hands will deal with

[@HomesteadJay]

Exactly! That’s why I started it earlier this year cause I wanted to make sure everyone was good before the cold. Last year I waited legit last minute and if I had an issue it would have sucked to deal with when it was 15 degrees out

[@truckdriver7721]

The positive side is. Atleast it didn't happen in the middle of winter. 😊😊

[@HomesteadJay]

Indeed!

[@fricknjeep]

hi there good job on the fix , john

[@HomesteadJay]

Thanks John!

[@davids4754]

Sometimes the linkage on the draft door on mine will get hung up

[@davids4754]

Well u were definitely above 212 probably to 220. Ive done it before and caught it and open every zone available garage, basement,house and hot water to bring it down as fast as possible

[@HomesteadJay]

I deff was that high for sure for the water to blow out like that. Glad we’re back to normal

[@brookdorflinger9070]

That was scary!!

[@HomesteadJay]

Indeed!

[@shayn4220]

Take a deep breath it happens just be glad u caught it ,

[@HomesteadJay]

Deff. Now I know this bad Larry inside and out haha

[@ronaldmerkel778]

Had same issue wih mine same make n model it was solenoid being shorted wen open

[@joshuahughes106]

I'm glad im not the only one that goes crazy diagnosing things. Usually for me it's mechanical ok trucks or machines buy regardless your momens for huh whats next was relatable

[@HomesteadJay]

Indeed!

[@HomesteadJay]

Yeah this had my wheels spinning but now going forward I understand this aspect of the machine I.e. controller and temps sensor now! I’m not worried anymore this was the legit last portion of the machine I didn’t know about. Now I know

[@jtderby]

If you had tested the fuse you probably would have found it quicker but you might have got it running not knowing the control box was the route cause. Might have gone down on you again a few times before you figured it out. Sometimes a mistake works in your favor.

[@HomesteadJay]

Indeed! I am glad I missed the fuse being bad cause it made me deff isolate that the module was bad.

[@TheFoo182]

But what about the water loss? How is that related to the controller and solenoid fuse blowing? Thanks for sharing Jay!

[@HomesteadJay]

Honestly. I think the computer fried and held the damper open. Strange but that’s the only thing I can think of.

[@TheFoo182]

@HomesteadJay ok. Makes sense. Keep up posted!

[@TheFoo182]

Water level still good?

[@TheRussellStover]

I've been thinking about this for the last 5 days. Update! 🙂

[@HomesteadJay]

All good my friend! I’ll have an update tomorrow!

[@TheRussellStover]

@@HomesteadJay Thanks! I've been dying to know what could go wrong. I have a heatmaster OWB and it's my first year with it so I'm watching for any issues that seem to be common.

[@robertwiebler7470]

Ever have issues using the natural draft & not having a blower on it?

[@HomesteadJay]

Never needed a blower. I guess they just blow hot air out the chimney. Not a lot of guys run the blowers on the 6048s

[@brandonhoad9033]

Not today Satan not today 👹👹😂😂. Better today than middle of Jan or Feb. I have a couple of those solenoids in my milking system and just replaced one couple weeks ago. It just diverts draining water, no biggie. Fuse could be blown under an end cap. Sucks you replaced the brain 1st($$), but it needed to be done anyway...

[@HomesteadJay]

Not today Satan! 🤣 I meant that 100% lol I needed to do the computer anyways but it shorting out the damper fuse really threw me for a loop

[@quietone3244]

Phantom voltage with no load on the circuit. If you had read the voltage with seloniod plugged in, you likely would have read 0volts. I learned this the hard way.

[@HomesteadJay]

Indeed. Very confused when I was checking it! Thanks for tuning in!

[@shayn4220]

Add water , I bet u over heated damper door or solenoid got stuck I had it happen before

[@HomesteadJay]

Yes indeed. Only maybe the 3rd time I’ve over heated it so we should be good now

[@shayn4220]

@ just for my mind sake was that light computer thing expensive

[@itsyurb0ylayy4]

Time for a new epa one !!

[@HomesteadJay]

No chance

[@itsyurb0ylayy4]

@ Lmaoo