Well There's Your Problem | Episode 17: The Atmospheric Railway

Today @oldmananders0n, @aliceavizandum, and ‪@donoteat01‬ talk about the succ, and various ways succ has been applied to railway traction in the past, present, and future, and also elon musk can suck it
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here is @bigmoodenergy's youtube: • The Failure and Succes...
slide 1: pipe
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slide 2: locomotive
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slide 4: dalkey
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slide 5: croydon
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slide 6: south devon
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[@slywolf1972]

Wow. I can't believe the pink slime in Ghostbusters 2 was blended rat the whole time

[@griffinrails]

This is how we kill Reggie

[@Armando51roosters]

Get over it. You fucking pig.

[@griffinrails]

honestly im happy that the pinned comment wasn’t someone having a tantrum at the existence of this series

[@rinnhart]

You ever been to New York?

[@tylerzipay9536]

That's what McDonald's chicken nuggets are made out of.

[@LoneWolf343]

"Nobody died." Half an hour later; world's largest rat blender.

[@SlimbTheSlime]

And it was ornate

[@quantumblauthor7300]

They're not bodies, they're a plasma

[@GordonFreemayne]

65 Horsepower means it has the power to suck in 65 horses at once and still get you there 10 minutes early

[@WingsStrings]

Mortified tophat man Doppler effect screaming

[@WingsStrings]

you know that clip from Jackass 3D where the guy sits in the chair behind the plane and just gets blown to hell in the jet stream imagine that but with a little wooden cart under the guy

[@dylanchouinard6141]

Wings & Strings it’s even more hilarious when you imagine how he stopped. There’s no way that anyone safely decelerated from 100 mph in 75 seconds on what is essentially an open sheet. I will bet money that he flew off the platform and flew into a wall and made a perfect looney tones silhouette hole

[@riikkatheiceprincess_she_h8725]

But which was responsible for more of the screaming: the speed, or the plume(s) of viscera spraying guts in a horrific pink mist all over everything? I choose to believe this is what this guy saw, just a blur of surreal horror as he rocketed along. That, or he stubbornly refused to be horrified until after tea, just making his toast whilst hurtling across the countryside at record (and other things) shattering speed.

[@bussesandtrains1218]

If I had a nickel for how many people I've seen use mortified wrong, I'd have 3 nickles and be investigated by the irs for insider trading

[@hrani]

It's unlikely Alice will see this, but I would like broadly the world to know how much of a delight it is to have real closed captions with all of the extra notations of tone etc. Having automated subtitles is also great for following everything said (thanks ADHD brain that thinks paying attention to just sounds is silly) but I just wanted to acknowledge the fantastic work put into the 'real' ones. I love them, they're an extra dimension of fun, deeply recommend every listener turning them on

[@OriginalPineapplesFoster]

As someone who's recently begun offering captions to KZbinrs, comments like these are both informative and inspiring. Will certainly study these to be the best captioner I can be! ✌️🍍

[@BravoCharleses]

@@OriginalPineapplesFoster Good on you. I hope business is booming.

[@SillyVixen420]

Same here! I hope she knows how much we appreciate it.

[@pete3767]

When you say "deeply reccomend every listener turning them on", is there little bonuses in there or something? I'm more in the camp of finding subtitles super distracting and I keep finding myself compelled to looking down and reading ahead, which for me messes with the timing of jokes etc. When people I'm with have them on their TV, I have to sit with my knee blocking my view of the lower middle of the screen or I'm constantly looking there and reading instead of watching 😄

[@nerdywolverine8640]

​@@pete3767they're very good for clarification, and there's written tone indicators via adjectives or what voice someone is mimicking. if you find them distracting they're probably not for you, but for anyone who'd be the least bit helped by them or just want to have more of the context/intent come across they're extremely useful.

[@XanderTuron]

Hyper Loop, because the one thing rail transit was missing was all the dangers of space travel.

[@The5lacker]

To be fair, I think the odds of being attacked by aliens in the hyperloop is lower than in space. But definitely not zero...

[@Frommerman]

@@The5lacker I disagree. Space is pretty empty, and the best way to get anywhere is to move in a perfectly straight line between your starting point and destination. Because space is also fucking massive, the only way you ever actually meet aliens in space is if they are from where you're going and going where you're from. Not terribly likely. However, solar systems, and to a lesser extent planets, are destinations in and of themselves. If aliens ever come anywhere near here, they'll definitely come here because there's nothing else to come here for. Therefore, if you're in a hyperloop on a planet's surface, you're more likely to encounter aliens than anywhere in deep space just because you're in a resource rich area rather than a place devoid of anything useful.

[@alexwright6038]

The bat crap crazy idea plagiarised by Elon Musk from an idea Goddard that has been around since 1910.

[@kiandocherty3589]

@@Frommerman Well given that space travel would involve thousands of years to go anywhere worth while, your chances of encountering aliens on your journey are high. Traversing a high number of galaxies or systems will gradually increase the odds that the system you are travelling will have intelligent life forms that are capable of detecting your craft. In other words, walking into many empty houses increases the odds that a house will not in fact be empty. Whereas with Earth, it requires the life form not merely to be able to detect and contact your craft, but actually be able to traverse solar systems AND find Earth AND find someone travelling a hyper loop. The last one being the most implausible. :/ Also seconding slingshot effect smart person.

[@tombrown407]

@@alexwright6038 I genuinely have no idea how Elon gets away with claiming the Hyperloop is an original concept.

[@TemplarOnHigh]

11:59 - Justin demonstrates that he is an engineer by making a "t" that cannot be accidentally mistaken for a "+", because that got us all at least once.

[@schnoodle3]

but he doesn't draw a line through his Zs

[@Abeardeen]

@@schnoodle3 maybe he ornate 2's so he doesnt need to cross the Z's

[@charlesbradley3663]

*

[@fern5505]

“Im the guy who cleans up the rat viscera” is a sentence that i cant even say out loud without laughing so much my stomach hurts

[@quantumblur_3145]

Who -makes- *[follows]* all the -rules- *[regulations]*

[@gntkllrrbt5]

The amount of times i covered my pet ratto's ears while listening to this was more than once.

[@griffinrails]

gntkllrrbt5 don’t hit him with ptsd

[@BorrieBeats]

He can’t hear...but he knows..he knows

[@Kaanfight]

This is simultaneously the cutest and most horrifying thing I’ve ever heard

[@boydsinclair7606]

Yeah, I had to cover the eyes of my pile of rat viscera (so it couldn't see the slides) ...and that's a lot of eyes

[@QuantumFluxable]

my cats got very excited for some reason

[@alkihistoriker]

I imagine Isambard Kingdom Brunel as some sort of 19th century Jeremy Clarkson. "7 ft broad gauge. The perfect gauge for my sports-train! Speed! Power!"

[@maximilianwimmer627]

"Speed, Violence and Momentum"

[@alkihistoriker]

@@bobsemple7660 Good to see that someone else has seen that documentary as well!

[@alkihistoriker]

@@bobsemple7660 Same. I've listened to and loved every documentary he's done and even done something just a bit similar on my channel with labor history. Hopefully someone continues making documentaries in that style.

[@davidwright7193]

No he was the 19th century Elon Musk but spending someone else’s money

[@davidwright7193]

@@bobsemple7660 however Brunel lacked the basic engineering common sense required to distinguish between the possible and the sensible. He also lacked the humility to accept the experience and skill of specialists such as ship builders and railway engineers. He built some successful projects (eg. The Clifton bridge and the ss Great Western) some valuable experiments SS Great Britain and his tunnelling shield. But mainly he produced monstrosities that were just not viable or didn’t mesh with other infrastructure like the Great Western railway where the track he built had to be relaid twice to become fully usable or the Great Eastern which ended up costing almost as much to launch as to build and was never economically viable.

[@TrashHeapCustodian]

I think y'all are missing a very important detail about the rat and horse viscera tubes: to create a vacuum you have to suck of course, but there has to be an exhaust for the pump somewhere. So in this vein, there were definitely giant Victorian smokestacks spewing large and small mammal viscera all over the countryside at some point, as if to be a gentle pink viscous rain. Delightful indeed!

[@rinnhart]

Where do you think the pink slime portion of the infinite bar n grill was produced?

[@niagarawarrior9623]

i figured the vent was somewhere at the end of the line / station, I assumed that the posh, top hat wearings victorian would step into a clean station, board a state of the art suck-train, travel in awe during the quick and largely quiet method of transport, and as the doors open the station is just spewed in rat viscera.

[@grahamariss2111]

Impressive to see, but sadly in reality not what happened as the rats did not enter into the firebox of the boilers. Rats would be sucked to the pump, if they had done it properly and engineered in filters then they just end up with a clogged filter, if not then they end up with a buggered up pump cylinders and valve gears, maybe this was why they were trashing the engines on the Croydon lines.

[@TrashHeapCustodian]

Listen buddy I'm shitposting get these engineer ideas outta here lmao

[@nathanieltodd5767]

@@grahamariss2111 See if they were really enterprising they could've then repurposed the viscera scraped from the filters for the world's first fast food chain.

[@MyChannel773]

as an unfortunate 4d experience, i found myself eating chunky marinara when they started discussing the rat viscera… how’s your day going?

[@memomorph5375]

When I was younger, I went to a summer camp for kids interested in the medical field. One morning, we learned about parasites and then they served spaghetti for lunch lol

[@erikii8034]

@@memomorph5375 I went to the same sort of camp for veterinary studies! One time we spent a lovely morning removing maggots from a bunch of squirrel wounds to prep them for surgery. Then we went outside for lunch and one girl had a rice bowl.

[@piizog]

I'd say that the modern example of unqualified people showing off diagrams in the hope of millions of monies is the tech startup industry.

[@SofaKingShit]

Well I'm guessing that you'd be absolutely correct when you postulate that is indeed what you would say. It certainly very much looks that way. Whereas people who like this sort of thing will probably find this sort of thing to be something which they like.

[@piizog]

@@SofaKingShit My postulation did not, indeed, contain a value judgements. As some people with drawings in the Victorian times got interesting and groundbreaking stuff done, so do startups. But most of them are wing designers trying to build a vacuum train.

[@scarylion1roar]

"I present 'WeWork'" [the slide is a picture of the office locked by a fallen umbrella]

[@teslashark]

They can't make examples!

[@cubedable]

thankfully no one gives a shit in 2020, but this is what happened with shitcoin whitepapers

[@TwoCatsinaTrenchcoat]

7:55 I appreciate that Alice wrote "succ" correctly in the captions. #iseeyou

[@lukewest7216]

OK so I went to the Vatican Museum about 10 years ago and Rocz is spot on about the people. The only memory I have of appreciating any art was a 20 minute window where I got turned around and ended up wandering into this room full of huge maps of the Mediterranean and various defunct kingdoms.

[@haphazardlark1502]

I forgot how much of this episode was just the wheezing sound of three people uncontrollably laughing to the point where they can no longer inhale. Got up early to watch the sunrise and listen to three people lose their fucking minds over the horse viscera train. It’s gonna be a good day.

[@ewetoo]

it's so good

[@CassandraFortuna]

The idea of a pneumatically-driven rat-blender train reminds me of a series of stories set in a post-zombie apocalypse New York; in particular, a story about how subway operators replaced firemen as the local heroes (and recipients of free beer) because just by doing their jobs they were wiping out hundreds of walking dead a day.

[@chrisdegraaff1418]

I feel it incumbent upon me to point out to Alice that Victorian architecture is both very strong and exceptionally rigid.

[@joshuahadams]

That was before the math for figuring out how to get something to _barely_ stay up was available

[@emilyadams3228]

And pointy.

[@MewnieSA]

As an Albertan, I know it'd get full of skunks. Try to imagine liquified skunk as you coast along on the silent train, in your top hat and your best girl on your arm.

[@grmpEqweer]

@@richardbetel3564 Those little bastards are going to be the ancestors our replacements evolve from.

[@lrminer2024]

Ok but would the bacon smell overpower the skunk?

[@eminempreg]

@@lrminer2024 you underestimate skunks

[@poilboiler]

@@eminempreg Surely you could make skunk bacon? :D

[@emilyadams3228]

Just add maple syrup.

[@AmurTiger]

All the horses were harmed in the making of this podcast.

[@jamiekamihachi3135]

And an unspeakable number of rats.

[@franciscojcsa6127]

~no more horses~

[@florianbruehl]

Good

[@truegopnik6591]

If I may suggest some future episodes: 1: The Exxon Valdez oil spill. Exxon refuses to fix a radar system, some other things went wrong, and it resulted in the worst oil spill in US history at the time, still affecting the PWS area till this day. Or 2. The KPZ/MBT70 project, where the US and West Germans worked on a combat tank together. They couldn’t decide whether they should use metric or not, everything was experimental, and antics ensued.

[@scullystie4389]

I'd love an episode on MBT70, or on all sorts of other boondoggle defense projects like the F35

[@welltheresyourproblempodca1465]

@@scullystie4389 you're gonna love the next patreon ep

[@scullystie4389]

@@welltheresyourproblempodca1465 [desire to know more intensifies]

[@ericwilliams9117]

The Bradley IFV development is also a wonderfully convoluted story

[@scullystie4389]

@@ericwilliams9117 I show people that montage from The Pentagon Wars of them redesigning the Bradley over and over into a Frankentank, any time they tell me we need to increase spending on new weapons systems.

[@centurion1945]

You got to admire that Victorian spirit and confidence that there was no problem that couldn't be solved if you just threw enough coal and horse viscera at it.

[@RETR0FLESH]

my favorite inevitable part of each episode is the moment everyone deteriorates into wheezing laughter, 10/10 every time

[@ari-s-video]

Last time I was this early Trotsky was still in all of those photos

[@dejjal8683]

or was it Jezhov?

[@MrJohndoakes]

@@dejjal8683 Yezhov?

[@allgodsnomasters2822]

lmao

[@nowhereman6019]

Unfortunately for him, he was a rat and got crunched by the atmospheric railroad driven by engineer Stalin.

[@syystomu]

I can't believe the looney toons system worked even as well as it did, that's absolutely wild

[@Capopoi]

Switching motherboards is 100% what's causing the activate windows thing, happened to me too.

[@Anonarchist]

my grandmother only used rotary phones so she could still make phone calls on shabbat. my great grandfather was an orthodox rabbi so im assured this is kosher.

[@RalphInRalphWorld]

Picking up the phone isn't considered work but pressing buttons is?

[@dariusjonna]

@@RalphInRalphWorld The vagaries of religion is interesting as it is fucking dumb.

[@ssbohio]

The rotary dial makes & breaks electrical connections, just like flipping a switch. It should be a violation on the prohibition against creating or destroying, and against making fire (the spark) on the Sabbath.

[@GONEmypurpleflapjack]

@@ssbohio yeah but as long as u don't know shit is a violation ur good

[@stevenvanhulle7242]

I heard about a rabbi being asked if a jew can operate a light switch on shabbat. Problem at hand: is the spark of the switch "fire'? (You're not allowed to make fire on shabbat.) The rabbi conferred with a couple colleagues. For a long time. I don't know if they ever answered the question, or that they died trying to...

[@piguyalamode164]

The rope solution is a good example of brute force being surprisingly effective

[@sweetpepino1907]

Little did we know, this was our first great filter. If this railroad panned out and was adopted around the world, it would have eventually had the power to suck the Earth into it and destroy the planet

[@andxx0r_the_second671]

1:00 Back in those innocent days where a 2-hour WTYP was a 'long one'.

[@DWOBoyleMusic]

Semi-related. My grandma had a childhood story where she lured her family's cow onto the third rail once. She was shocked, but not as much as the cow. Anyway, the cow died. This was in rural eastern PA.

[@MrJimheeren]

Goddamn dude. Your grandma was quite the psycho

[@MyChannel773]

@@MrJimheeren to be fair it probably wasn’t on purpose considering she was surprised

[@BLO0DBATHnBEOND]

Don’t listen to any bum ass comments about “changing your format or whatever” I know nothing about engineering and quite frankly if I wanted to I would read a book. This shit is super entertaining from a layman’s perspective and I do think you guys give enough information for the most part to be able to draw a mental image for myself.

[@AsiniusNaso]

Train good, car bad, horse chaotic neutral, rat pack CR1 cannon fodder? Train grease? I dunno.

[@THE_BATLORD]

tallow tasty

[@boydsinclair4166]

I pictured every rat coming up to take a nibble of tallow and getting sucked inside the pipe with a squeaky thump.

[@m8sonmiller]

How do I explain to my therapist that listening to you three wheeze about horse viscera is the only thing that makes me laugh

[@Daneelro]

I just *love* donoteat01's resounding YES!es.

[@Daneelro]

I got to 57:30 but then I laughed so hard I couldn't hear the podcast any more...

[@syystomu]

You know, at least with French spelling you can actually learn the rules. The rules make no sense but they're consistent. With English spelling you have to either look up every single new word you learn (and even then you run into ones like "read" where it’s different depending on whether it's past or present tense which really is peak bullshit) or make a guess and hope for the best.

[@Quintinohthree]

First rule of French, assume the last letter of any word is silent unless you know better.

[@MrJohndoakes]

English needs accent marks like Serbian when it is written in Latin letters. That would help Italian too.

[@MrJohndoakes]

@CommandoDude Which is why it needs accent marks - French has accent marks, German has the Umlaut, Norwegian that circle over the A, and the crossed O.

[@justinokraski3796]

@@Quintinohthree the second rule of French is that the second to last letter of any word is pronounced based on the last letter

[@viliphied]

CommandoDude well the biggest problem with learning English pronunciation is that we have 13 distinct vowel sounds (not counting diphthongs or triphthongs) and only 5 vowels, so if we wanted to fix the problem we’d need either 8 more letters or accents. Of the two accents are way simpler

[@420bongking]

i had two thoughts early into this video. "tallow? how many animals got greased trying to eat that" and "byford dolphin" and im so happy that alice was on my wavelength

[@GelidGanef]

Starting at 19:06 Alice: So you keep the tube tightish? Justin: Yeah, you're gonna have a little bit of leakage, but, uh, it's a very long tube. Alice: ... Justin: You can probably handle that small amount. Anderson: It'll be fine. Alice: There's a lot of suck. Justin: There's a lot of suck there. Anderson: Unnnnnnnnnmmmmmm 🤤 Alice: But what you don't wanna do is stick your hand in this. Justin: Oh no! You should not do that. Justin: But this is about to get pretty weird in a second...

[@rinnhart]

The step from fisting to rodent play is gtfo

[@denziljoe]

"flaps to protect the tube" 🤣

[@scarylion1roar]

AM: atmospheric train that worked most of the time FM: anything from Elon Musk's rich man mush brain

[@keiracampbell3763]

The rat part had me in tears. I recently discovered this podcast and it's helped entertain me through yet another year of this godforsaken pandemic, so thanks for that.

[@casanovafunkenstein5090]

I can remember being in a wimpy burger a few times back when they were still around in the 90s. It made McDonald's look like haute cuisine.

[@d3monslay3r4]

this is an incredibly good episode

[@RoamingAdhocrat]

they're all good episodes gront

[@ArabicNameGuy]

two truths and a lie: a) Brunel's father was actually called Marc b) the law of conservation of horses is why horsepower was first-called horsepowder c) this is my new favorite episode

[@hannahbmbmbm]

b is a lie

[@anoninunen]

A whole new take on the classic trope of the villain tying the damsel to the tracks - now they both just get stuck there with the rats

[@seanomatopoeia]

This episode was spectacular. Truly tears-in-eyes hilarious.

[@annathiika5755]

GIVE US ALL YOUR MONEY MIKE 🗡

[@Jesse-qy6ur]

And then after elected we don't ask.

[@RyanTennant]

Every billionaire is a policy failure.

[@minivergur]

Some people say (wrongly) that Bernie is the left wing Trump. Well, Bloomberg is actually the right wing Trump

[@whisperingsage89]

@Joe Average I think it's excellent for anyone and everyone to take Bloomberg's money and then do fuckall for him. Grift the grifters.

[@kjj26k]

And then Bloomberg utterly f-ing failed, AHAHAHAHA!!

[@apxdrv]

Near the start of the episode, when the train in a tube drawing was drawn courtesy of Justin, which was followed up with "tube with no air" comment shortly after by Alice, my mind immediately went to "this kind of sounds like hyperloop", and later on when the vacuum train was brought up around the 1 hour mark, I was eagerly anticipating the hyperloop being brought up. Thank you for talking about how rubbish the whole thing is. I feel slightly vindicated in that I've always found it annoying that people always heralded it as "the transportation of the future" or "the fifth mode of transport" (it's still a train) and all that bullshit about being cheaper than regular high speed rail. There's no way it would it, as it has the downsides of both air and rail transport, and arguably none of the benefits of either save for it possibly being able to terminate in the centre of a city like a train. Elongated Muskrat is a fraud and no one should support him. Musk stans can die mad. At 48:04, I'm guessing Alice brought up Queensland alongside Ireland because she mis-remembered the gauges from that comment on the APT video? It is the states of Victoria and South Australia that use Irish gauge (broad gauge), Queensland uses Narrow gauge, as does Western Australia and Tasmania, and New South Wales (my state) uses Standard gauge. I can understand the confusion. Pronoun check: She/Her Native Land Declaration: Darug and Gundungurra

[@geofryl]

So you're saying the Victorians invented the hyperloop?

[@scarylion1roar]

No, the atmospheric railways actually transported people.

[@griffinrails]

scarylion.roar no

[@rinnhart]

Sir, sir! I can only become so vacuum engorged.

[@SantaFebuff]

The guy who cleans up the rat guts was the ancestor of the men who power-wash Amtrak locomotives. I imagine both jobs sucked.

[@IXPrometheusXI]

The laughter is infectious tbh 🤣

[@civ27]

I've been on the atmospheric railway airport people mover myself, it's in Porto Alegre airport (POA) and goes a short distance from the airport to a commuter rail station Porto Alegre's commuter rail, like most brazilian passenger rail, also uses irish gauge caralho

[@franciscojcsa6127]

And while most passenger railroads in Brazil use Irish Gauge, most freight railroads use Meter Gauge Except the freight railroad that goes through my home town to São Paulo one way and Rio de Janeiro the other.

[@The5lacker]

Tower of Babel bonus episode when?

[@mkepioneet]

After the Tacoma Narrows Bridge episode

[@ZoneofA]

This episode sacked. It is nothing but hot air and you finally blew it. Honestly I had enough of your puffery and I have no recourse but to vent my scorn at you.

[@MartyParty23]

Ok, blowhard

[@scarylion1roar]

*succed

[@TheSunsetPearl]

*proceeds to relentlessly teabag *

[@cookiesonastick]

I love revisiting the horse and rats episode

[@JD-xt8cj]

As for the guy to clean the rat viscera, I’m reminded of the Ken Shabby character from Monty Python, “After five years, they give me a brush!”

[@pkunkbwok]

You can't keep your loops straight. Because they're LOOPS

[@forcea1454]

Why talk about using vacuum tube trains, ships and solar-powered flying boats to cross the Atlantic without carbon emissions when you could use an aircraft powered by an unshielded direct-cycle nuclear turbojet.

[@xavier6130]

Because people aren't ready for that kind of based yet.

[@pkunkbwok]

11:42 the finest diagram ever created by man

[@goemandude8735]

Why did you upload this at 1 AM I was trying to go to sleep and now I have to watch this instead.

[@kensurrency2564]

Haha I also saw it pop up right as I was going to sleep. Thought I could listen to it for a while but instead they lulled me to sleep within 2 min

[@alexritchie4586]

"Devon has weird names." As a Devonian I can say yes. Yes it does.

[@thebudsofmay]

the real problem with these trains was their lack of ornate vaulted gothic roofs on the cars

[@MAskedGoblin]

Yeah, Microsoft sucks and the Windows license specifically says stuff about "1 KEY PER COMPUTER/MOTHERBOARD". Gonna need that Bloomberg money for a new key.

[@cravinghibiscus7901]

Get linux I guess? As soon as my old ass mac dies I'll convert to whatever the chinese make or linux.

[@stevenvanhulle7242]

Uh-oh. My PC's keyboard has over 100 keys...

[@snowleopard9749]

I have a request for Alice to open the next episode with the line "Hello, and welcome". Thanks.

[@benoitbvg2888]

Heresy.

[@CleverCrumbish]

I... is this a sex thing

[@snowleopard9749]

@@CleverCrumbish It can be if you want it to be!

[@chestermightbeafrog]

Ah, the birth of the greatest bit on the podcast, horse viscera train power. Reliving this is always worthwhile

[@plushifoxed]

*Shake Hands With Doctors*

[@Furore2323]

I can't express just how much joy this show brings me.

[@sitskrieg317]

TACOMA NARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROWS

[@MrJohndoakes]

It's this podcast's Holy Grail - the thing they see but can never reach.

[@scarylion1roar]

It's not the Holy Grail, it's the next episode.

[@Mickulty]

"We have a year at most before the bill comes to you on [massive investments in unworkable startups like hyperloop stuff]" It was actually 2 and a bit years but close enough honestly.

[@user-ms8km7lh1l]

i listen to a true crime podcast where they openly admit to just copying their notes straight from wikipedia but even then they're comedy and they have discussions and Joaks just like y'all, idg why ppl care so much

[@MartyParty23]

Jillian D If podcasters were not allowed to crib Wikipedia there wouldn’t be podcasts.

[@fartface8918]

It's not like they can create new information

[@zakkart]

Alice is probably the funniest person on this podcast.

[@ibha-xh6nn]

1:20:30 the picture here is the Brazilian made Aeromovel which still operating in my home city, Jakarta, Indonesia. You're right, it's no more than just a novelty for kids. The thing is being used as a shuttle ride in a theme park and it works just fine for that purpose. It's actually pretty quite because there's no engine and the infrastructure is pretty simple. However, the rubber seal for the pipe need to be replaced regularly because it wear off quickly. The thing was made in 1980s to test whether the system is suitable for future mass transport. The result, buses and trains are still far better.

[@McCbobbish]

A doctor also invented the Gatling Gun

[@stevenvanhulle7242]

And the guillotine.

[@Azivegu]

It has been a long time since I laughed so hard and was crying and seriously short of breath than that mental image of that poor man clinging to his stove at 29:45 Thank you for that, I needed it.

[@oranjedrurgen8934]

as a drafting trainee the disgram starting at around 10 minutes is making me feel a bit better about my own drawing

[@rileye9599]

How many Patreon subscribers are needed to get Justin a stylus and pad ffs

[@Adalhaid_]

To be honest, I’d rather see an episode about the Great Molasses Flood before the Tacoma Narrows Bridge. Looking forward to the next episode regardless of what it is.

[@macclubbin]

I cried laughing at this multiple times and had my coworkers asking me if I was OK. 😂 Thank you, best episode yet!

[@Aspire198]

Just the idea that A. Someone actually tried this idea, B. It 'worked', c. It seemingly 'worked', for a considerable length of time before abandonment. Absolute madmen

[@Max._Power]

90% of the solutions attempted to fix most of these issues relied heavily on animal products. it really was the 1800s

[@allypoum]

Oh yes. you guys are prolific. Wish Chapo was this prolific...

[@devinfaux6987]

Chapo go on WTYP

[@scullystie4389]

Chapo, WTYP and The Dollop should just join up into a Superfriends of lefty disastercasts

[@hannahbmbmbm]

Chapo is for libs

[@TiagoJoaoSilva]

Load-bearing fully-automatic socialism

[@flinko99]

Why? They fucking suck.

[@TSZatoichi]

I wonder if Doc Brown could have used this technology in 1885 to get the DeLorean up to 88 MPH if he had had the time?

[@devinfaux6987]

"Van Horne! Pneumatic transit. I can’t believe it! It’s the old pneumatic transit system! It’s still here!"

[@sunpak4898]

Lmao do an episode on all of the whacky designs NYC tried with their subways. In fact just do an entire episode on NYC and how it’s literally designed to be inhospitable for humans

[@GarethDennisTV]

no matter which bus stop you are at, the 176 to Penge will find you

[@guard13007]

At around 31 minutes in, y'all murdered me with those mental images. Thank you.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

To connect two "well there's your problem"s, two locomotives from the London and Croydon railway were used on Erebus and Terror on their fateful journey, and one of the problems they had was the lack of power in these engines, the tug that towed them out of the harbour having more power than those engines.

[@joshuahadams]

AFAIK the engines were basically just there for experimental use and they only had enough coal to run for around twelve days once up to pressure. HMS _Erebus_ had 0.04 horsepower per ton, HMS _Terror_ was a bit better with a ratio of 0.07. HMS _Warrior,_ launched in 1860, had 0.63 horsepower per ton, almost ten times the power HMS _Terror_ had at her disposal about fifteen years after _Erebus_ and _Terror_ got their engines.

[@simplebastard6805]

Hey there, Just me popping in to be pedantic in regard to industry terms. Again (see my comment regarding the differences between cribbing and dunnage). Question: the 65hp stationary engine we're laughing about at 56:00, is that 65 mechanical horsepower, or 65 boiler horsepower? When discussing steam engines/apparatus this is an important distinction. 1 boiler horsepower is the energy required/the ability to evaporate 34.5 lbs of water per hr. 1 boiler horsepower converts to roughly 13.1 mechanical horsepower. So, a stationary engine rated at 65 boiler horsepower is evaporating 2,242 lbs of steam per hour, equivalent to something like 855 mechanical horsepower.

[@MinaKittenGaming]

I appreciate that this is practically 1.5 hours of helpless giggling because dumb train didn't work. 😸 Those poor animals tho.

[@genericaccountname1369]

Sounding awfully crisp on this one.

[@ZCJKF13GDG4]

when i lived in the uk the mr wimpy burger was next to the good wetherspoons which was across the road from the bad wetherspoons

[@aphoxema]

WTYP is my favorite thing now

[@kayleeson509]

36:23 Alice, I'm going to disagree. We need big fancy cathedral like public infrastructure. If it isn't pretty and photogenic and plastered all over instagram, no one will value it. If public infrastructure is invisible it gets taken for granted, ignored, falls into disrepair, the taxpayers complain about the taxes which is missing the point completely, etc.

[@semirrahge]

"Commuter mulch..." _Warhammer 40k intensifies_

[@fishyface3940]

I used to live right by the Devon Atmospheric Railway section, love you guys covering this

[@RoamingAdhocrat]

Just looked up the Santa Fe articulated boiler locomotives - the ATSF 3000 class - and wtF

[@danielmcintyre9200]

The innovation here really was upgrading the guy with the shovel to the guy with the spatula. Bonus points if they gave him an engine telegraph that ranged from "rare" to "well done."

[@AussieWirraway]

Talk about railway gauge? In South Australia we had all three of the gauge narrow, standard AND broad somehow that's a real engineering disaster.

[@iron1349]

And that's the part people live in

[@mrpieceofwork]

Interfaith Dialogue: "Well, There's Your Disaster"

[@scout8145]

1:20:12 I am in love with the aesthetic of that Aeromovel. It’s so bright and cheerful! Edit: Oh, it’s in a theme park, that’ll do it. But I think we should make everyday infrastructure this fun, too