Weller vs. Pappy Van Winkle Blind! Are They Worth The Up charge?

People say Lot B and Weller 12 are the same. Can we tell them apart blind? Also putting a poor mans pappy in to see if it's better than the real thing!
Pappy van winkle 15 vs. Lot b vs. Weller 12 vs. Weller Antique vs. Poor Man's Pappy (Blend of Antique 107 and Weller 12)
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[@kevingrether135]

So.... 15 yrs ago when the liquor store shelves of Louisville KY were packed with Pappy my Dad used to mix it with Diet Sprite. And he liked it. Weller was for Churchill Downs winos. You guys are funny.

[@GunGuy258]

So true.

[@tothefxckinmoon4540]

Proof that influencers are a plague and can turn any market into a clown show

[@paulsylvester7096]

Thanks you guys are my go to. Wine drinker that’s learning this is better! Had my first Weller 107 taste tonight... very nice if I could buy a bottle at 50 bucks imo

[@briancasey2347]

Love the Cedar Point Blue Streak death trap reference.... oh my childhood.

[@lawdog89]

Can't find Weller either so it doesn't matter. I'll just drink Buffalo Trace.

[@jasonrichards3097]

Buy charred wood chips and age it, you can mature it but also keep a great taste

[@scurfie2343]

Here in PA Buffalo Trace is hard to find.

[@rogerhagariii]

Havin a hard time finding both around Houston and surrounding areas.

[@hambonelouis]

Try harder

[@aramb5482]

@@rogerhagariii I heard Texas has more weller compared to the rest of the US

[@peterwhite507]

Lot B is the ultimate trade bottle released every year. Never had PVW 15 (thinking I never will). Love PMP (err, more likely poor man's Weller Centennial). Have enough Weller 12/OWA for 2 more bottles with some individual pours from both. Cheers!

[@bourbonlens]

Great lineup. This is the best way to taste the high dollar stuff.

[@ericwolf1581]

I enjoy watching your channel so much, found it after starting my Weller journey all backwards. My first Weller was Full Proof, my second one was WLW (Got it at retail) and my most recent is Antique 107. Man I like any and everything Weller. On a side note have you ever reviewed anything from Traverse City Whiskey Company ??? I picked up a few of their offerings when I was up north in Michigan last year and they seem interesting.

[@BourbonJunkies]

Yea they source whiskey, but it's hard to get them to tell you from where. Overall not bad, we've had some killer picks from them though

[@jesseladd6864]

Weller SR is my fav so far. Want to collect more

[@nikoziegler3243]

First time watching, great video as a server and bartender love all the information! Thanks guys keep drinking!

[@coxman1]

Granted, I have never had any Van Winkle, but Weller 12 is one of my favorite bourbons.

[@Ducky27645]

Haha... The Blue Streak! Takes me back to my childhood. Great comparison.

[@cigarsnwhiskey4130]

I’m anxious to try the Antique I bought today after it came in so high.

[@kenshepherd2873]

You guys are my favorite on KZbin, another entertaining show. I need Weller 12, so I can make poor man's Pappy. I just bought Old Kentucky Owl batch 9, haven't tried it yet.

[@ADHDWhiskey]

Junkies are the best on the KZbins hands down.

[@thomasdouglas9562]

There are a few "poor man's pappy" combinations out there. Using Larceny and Makers cask strength is one I'm trying once I get my hands on a bottle of Larceny again.

[@mathieumintz1694]

I liked the Cedar Point reference nice one fellas

[@enemyfleet7139]

First time watching.... you guys may be my new favorite whisky guys

[@BourbonJunkies]

Thank you, cheers!

[@irishsausage6]

TONGUE PUNCH! I can actually look forward more to my work trip to Ohio in April. Also, what a great video to finally be on the Patreon credits!

[@BourbonJunkies]

Yea we had a huuuuuuge flood of pateons come in and couldn't keep up with the names. Wanted to wait until February to update them. Happy to have you though!

[@joeappleton6849]

Good pricey bottle review nicely done

[@Zach8murphy]

Where can you find it in Texas?

[@kevinbensel8954]

Great review, miss the old time background music in newer videos..

[@dennisp362]

Man I havent had pappys. But between 107 and 12. 12 takes the cake for me. Good vid.

[@bobbonj1171]

Just got OWA along with SR..never had the former and I’m curious! FP is damn a unicorn here in Jersey!

[@dennisp362]

@@bobbonj1171 I've had every wellers now. Cept wlw. Actually my fave now is 107 lol

[@mahboy6483]

Great video, thanks for this one! Have you guys tasted K.O. Batch 9 on video? Maybe I missed it?

[@BourbonJunkies]

We're putting out a review in the next couple weeks!

[@slyliquid4985]

Weller Antique 107 is my #1 bourbon! Damn it is so good and soooooo hard to find where I live.

[@goldslinger]

Sly Liquid it’s the best. I have a hard time putting it down. For 56.00:a bottle here, it’s a damn bargain

[@ADHDWhiskey]

You said A for Apples You made the whiskey dizzy Basically sent out the Mattsignal Also....this video should do well, haha and I cant wait to read all the comments

[@BourbonJunkies]

It's bound to make some people mad, that's for sure. A lot of strong feeling for people and the Weller line.

[@djbeacon1942]

ADHD, laughing out loud at the Mattsignal. Hope to see the Mattcave and the Mattmobile in a future video. Maybe even Sean as Robin and Dan as The Riddler! Why wait for October?!😄

[@sowlegwhiskyreview5501]

Entertaining comparison guys 🙂 I only recently became aware of the identical mashbills. There is so much new knowledge when you are branching out from Scotch to bourbon 😬

[@BourbonJunkies]

They found a mash bill that works, why change it? What they can do with their aging is just magical!

[@christopherdrake2959]

SOWLEG Whisky Review it’s more than just the same mashbill. There’s only one rickhouse on the Buffalo Trace property that houses Weller and Pappy. It’s all the same going into the barrels and all aged in the same location. The Pappy’s come from the lower floors and the Weller from the upper floors.

[@sowlegwhiskyreview5501]

@@christopherdrake2959 Brilliant information, Christopher, thanks 👍

[@lwaters2147]

Fellas, let me know if you would like another bottle of Weller 12 year. I've been able to get a few here in West TX and from what I've tasted I get caramel covered oak staves with almost a toasted marshmallow back end. The glen when empty smells like a campfire, it's fantastic!

[@lwaters2147]

@@Phil-sq8lt I can still get it and do still have some! What part of the world are you in? I'm in Lubbock, TX.

[@lwaters2147]

@@Phil-sq8lt I'd be happy to do a bottle swap or something?

[@WhiskeyQuests]

Good blind. I’m glad about the final results. Cheers

[@BourbonJunkies]

In just happy we didn't put pappy 15 as our number 2 of the year and then put it like last.

[@TheMarcopix]

I remember drinking weller 12 with ginger ale...in 1.5 liter jugs...before it was a 'thing'. Then, I started drinking it with soda and thinking...dayem....this is good. Then....it disappeared.

[@cajunfid]

Gone are the days of me buying a bottle of Pappy lot B for 65 bucks at the grocery store whenever I wanted it.

[@roberthubbard1445]

Did a Weller Antique 107 vs Pappy VW 12 Year neat last week and both were nice, smooth, but the Weller was definitely a bit "warmer" due to the proof. Neither one made me want to rush out and buy a bottle, but they were both nice. Rabbit Hole Cavehill works fine too, for me..

[@BourbonJunkies]

Which one did you like more?

[@roberthubbard1445]

@@BourbonJunkies hard to say. They were both similar on the palette, so I could pick either one. However, with regard to the PvW, a bit over hyped in my most humble opinion. Other than the proof, there wasn't a lot of differentiation between the two in flavor/taste. If you forced me to pick one, I'd go with the Weller, for the "warmth."

[@Conquer1nFools]

Going back through old videos, and I realized how much to a larger degree you drank larger volumes when you batched videos long ago. Love the old videos, love the new videos. Sober Bourbon Junkies = Smashed Bourbon Junkies

[@BourbonJunkies]

Yea with having day jobs and everything else going on in life we really had to just chug through videos

[@tkking2331]

I had the opportunity to drink a glass of Pappy 23 at my uncle's house on Christmas eve a few years ago. He waited until everyone else left and it was only him, my dad and me. They poured me a glass with 1 large ice cube inside. They taught me the "Kentucky chew". To smell it first then take a drink and hold it on your tongue. It was the best whiskey I've ever had! My dad also had a few bottles of Old Rip Van Winkle 12 year at his house we drank a few times.

[@whodeytomabt85]

23 on the rocks😬

[@robertfilaski4993]

It’s a sin to put pappy on the rocks

[@tkking2331]

@@robertfilaski4993 Is it a sin if I poured some in the grass for my dead family and homies?

[@robertfilaski4993]

@@tkking2331 at least that’s respectable

[@drumdave1976]

What song is playing during the tasting?

[@TimothyWStar]

I remember buying Antique 107 for $35. I heard that place I bought it from now marks it up to $70, if you can get it. Guess I gotta go to Ohio.

[@moobutt]

Bought a bottle this morning. Ohio FTW

[@bblopakabb]

What’s your favorite act of midwinter nights dram?

[@glenblackwood7015]

I only have Act 6 so nothing else to compare to in the midwinter line however it's one of the best bourbon I have ever had.

[@ggeesaman]

I hate this bourbon craze...I remember Pappy and Weller being on the shelf almost every visit. Pappy 15 is definitely my favorite. 12 year Family reserve is pretty good also. I live in Pa. so my go to bottles are Rare Bread and OF 1910. Always in stock.

[@shutuppabs323]

You guys made this so complicated that I have too applaud y’all lol.

[@MrGibsn1960]

I'm here for the analogies.

[@geoffboyd]

The older weller 12s were so much better than the new ones. I have a few different vintages and the new ones seem to have fell off. Old ones were straight up maple syrup

[@thomasmichael6509]

This. So true.

[@namredwop]

Whats the glass ware shown in the video. It apears larger than my 6oz glencairne

[@BourbonJunkies]

Those are just regular glen's

[@MrAnnabanana59]

Guy on the right looks too hammered to provide solid feedback! Haha.

[@BourbonJunkies]

Hungover* is definitely what happened hahahaha

[@joylessdancer4554]

Petition for Shawn and Dan to be from here on known as left guy and right guy

[@thornmatthew8395]

Who’s right? Yours or theirs?

[@bradslone8511]

@@thornmatthew8395 that's what I was thinking.

[@Pais1389]

I can actually still feel how sad I was recording this.

[@LibertyNotLicense]

A cool video would be chronicling the journey of our hero as he travels southward in his hotrod Subaru in search of the ever elusive suntan, stopping at myriad liquor dispensaries along the way revealing for all just what treasures are publicly available in lands yet but imagined by most!

[@Pais1389]

@@LibertyNotLicense holy shit I laughed so hard at this. I wish I still had my sti, it would be fun videos with that thing now.

[@utubewinsok6484]

What is the music in the Background.😊😊

[@DoubleJHas2ManyDoodles]

How do you guys feel about Yellowstone? I fell in love with it myself and feel it’s way too cheap even the basic Yellowstone

[@deerkiller300wsm]

OWA in second for big D!!!!! Dang wish it were easier to find in TN!!!!

[@bryansmith4595]

I just found Weller antique 107in the dayton ohio area for 49.00

[@rickcarl7558]

What store

[@nickp5511]

More great content! I would buy a A107 but in my area it’s 200.00 plus:( and the others are way more:(

[@1278jon]

Live in PA and doing a lottery for Pappy which is worth getting both Old Rip and Special Reserve 12 are under 100.

[@BourbonJunkies]

The rip is great, 12 is worth getting I'd you have some 107 to mix it with and make poor man's pappy

[@mikehaliday8302]

I'd love to see a blind head-to-head of Pappy 15 vs William LaRue Weller (and maybe 1 or 2 other heavy contenders). I think my boy WLW may be the best bourbon ever bottled. I have an unopened bottle of 2019 WLW to put up, if you all are anywhere near KY.

[@BourbonJunkies]

We agree that WLW is amazing, and unfortunately we're in Michigan.

[@pinverarity]

I once did Pappy 15 blind vs. the legendary Hirsch 16. It wasn’t even close, and ever since then I can’t drink the Pappy without thinking, “yeah, nice, but it’s not Hirsch.”

[@mybourbonjourney]

I think Dan pooped his pants when Sean says Lot B smells like Mango, answer: fuck no I'm not smelling mango, pass. Great job guys. Blinds are the best and very humbling.

[@BourbonJunkies]

I'll stand by it, I was getting something tropical. I will also say I was still wrecked from the meet up with adhd whiskey and bowling all day.

[@mybourbonjourney]

@@BourbonJunkies that was some funny shit! Being wrecked can fuck with you that's for sure. God damn Bowling gets you every time, cheers dudes!

[@suffertoreturnharder]

That Joey Flexx shirt👀👀👀

[@chrisbuzulencia1774]

What....what??? No cat....COOOKKIEEEEE!

[@matttheplumber00ify]

What is the song in the background?

[@paulsylvester7096]

Off topic I’m in MI too, how much would you pay for Old Kentucky batch 9 ? Thank you!

[@BourbonJunkies]

$200, and the sticker is $300. It's very good whiskey but so few things are ever worth that price tag.

[@paulsylvester7096]

339 at my store but excited about hard to get stuff. Thanks to let me know to pass

[@mbotefuh]

Ohio road trip!

[@ryanparker4775]

Been the last 3 weeks to Ohio to get more Owa and it hasn’t been there was able to get 2 c919 in 2 of the weeks though

[@BourbonJunkies]

Apparently Kroger's are the hot spots there, good luck hunting!

[@nolenlifts4661]

I can still only find the A119 here in Idaho

[@brylantek9541]

Local liq stores over in chicago have had weller 12 on the shelves but charging $300 a bottle. Where did you guys score a pappy bottle from?

[@BourbonJunkies]

Local store around us, still paid up quite a bit from MSRP

[@thewhodat2314]

You guys should cleanse the pallet with water in between

[@ericflowers2146]

Next time pick out 10 bottom shelf bourbons and blind them..

[@mattwolfe6192]

Best way to do a blind tasting is to not know what bourbons you are tasting. Knowing the bourbons puts a predetermined bias in your head and helps you justify why you like or dislike a particular bourbon

[@BourbonJunkies]

Well it would be very difficult to compare whiskeys blind with a theme if we didn't pick four to put in here lol. Honestly these blinds are more for comparison sake than how good each whiskey is individually. Fridays videos we don't know the whiskey at all when we start so it's more of a true blind for the purpose of that individual bottle.

[@williamumbach592]

I say blind 4, but have 8 bottles that “may” have made the 4.

[@BretSimmons]

I don't have any Pappy but I have Weller 107 and 12 and I too like the 107 better

[@BourbonJunkies]

I apparently like them mixed together more!

[@BretSimmons]

@@BourbonJunkies I tried the mix you recommended and it was indeed very good! The whole was greater than the sum of its parts!!

[@tombryan1]

What came out on top? Confusing.

[@BourbonJunkies]

Hey man, sorry it seemed confusing. There are actual pictures before the patron credits at the end of the video with them literally in the order with the place they came in above each bottle. Hold on I'll get you a timestamp.

[@BourbonJunkies]

19:05 is when it starts then it shows Sean's rankings right after. That should clear it all up.

[@stillse2130]

At 9:00 thought Shawn was about to rip one Old pappi style

[@utbui2050]

Great as always, but it seems like ALL these reviews just basically try to guess the most allocated bottle…. Maybe just a completely independent person pours… you have no clue what TF it is and try it, I bet you would be shocked.

[@cockedandglocked]

Wellers is not as readily available in Ohio as they believe.

[@joshpile6048]

Are all of these the 2019 releases?

[@BourbonJunkies]

The W12 is a little older everything else is.

[@joshpile6048]

@@BourbonJunkies the way you were talking about the w12 I felt the same way about this years release it just like something was off. Couple more questions for ya as well with the 1st being how long did you let poor man's sit and blend before drinking and 2nd how come no old rip in the line up that would of really made this video more awesome than it already is lol but cheers fellas and keep em coming

[@richfarrell6643]

Love the background music boys!! How long do you have to wait before drinking the poor man's pappy after you mix them? Keep the great videos coming.

[@BourbonJunkies]

We tried it immediately and then like 2 weeks later. The 2 weeks later one was a lot better.

[@Farcry-yh4mu]

problem is you can't find any of them

[@BourbonJunkies]

They do make it very hard yes.

[@travistrieber420]

How did you guys even get ahold of these lol?

[@bushkey]

Would have been better to use the Weller Full Proof Instead of the 12 year. We all know that the 12yr is very different then the rest of wellers. 107 is like a less refined less complex pappy. Weller FP would have been interesting

[@bushkey]

Please do Pappy 15 vs WIlliam Larue Weller. 👍🏻

[@BourbonJunkies]

Weller 12 and Lot B are both 12 year same mash bill and the same proof. That's why 12 was in there. 107 is like old rip, 12 is like lot b. That's what people tend to say at least. Sadly we don't have a WLW but that'd be fun.

[@jeromepeters6935]

@@BourbonJunkies So as the barrels are aged and tested, if it is no longer "good enough" for the VW line is it pulled aside for a Weller version? I thought their were proprietary licensing that kept the bottling separate? Just trying to figure out what the distillers do with barrels that didn't age well.

[@JCpNK]

wow... Very interesting.. I've never had the 12 because here in VA it's a lottery item and Secondary is $300 a bottle at the D.C. and Maryland Whiskey outlets.. Glad I'm a cheapskate and never pulled the trigger lol

[@TheKoog97]

jerry chatham its worth 45-50. I paid 37 and realized that the retail is cheap for a reason lol

[@bretcolombo8903]

Great video! A little clickbait and a lot of good content

[@CT99999]

I really enjoy their videos! So, I mean this with no disrespect at all, but I am curious if others have the same sentiments as I have, or if I am the only person discerns such: whenever I see Sean, I constantly view him as someone who looks like they've been painfully shy/awkward in their skin, but are trying hard to be more vocal and comfortable talking to the public. I don't know why it seems that way, but he just seems like he's trying hard to fit in. Unsure what I'm keying on -- if it's his mannerisms or just high-cheek bones? I'm trying to wrap my head around why it seems odd to see someone act the way he does.

[@BourbonJunkies]

Well thanks for the deep dive but really anyone knows I'm pretty good with who I am. Talking to a camera isn't public speaking, I'm still bad at that. Never been less goofy than I am on camera.

[@CT99999]

@@BourbonJunkies Thanks for the reply, and again, I meant no disrespect. More than anything, I'm trying to understand what subconscious, pre-conceived elements exist within me, and why things seem off in my own mental model. p.s. a friend of mine, 2,000 miles away Georgia found a bottle of Antique 107, so I'll finally get to try 1 of these 5 that you showcased. Flying there this month and will pick it up.

[@MrIkesimba]

I can't even find Weller.

[@BourbonJunkies]

Ohio and Texas seem to get a lot of it

[@stephencornicelli3194]

I made Welfare Pappy...107 + Special Reserve...😋

[@BourbonJunkies]

Lol all of our 12 got turned into poor man's pappy and we've not replaced the bottle in over a year.

[@moobutt]

Wait, did I hear a Cedar Point Blue Streak reference!?

[@yourmom4784]

Guy on the right is like the doppelganger of someone who works at a gun store in my town

[@maccamac626]

Is Sean absolutely hammered in this?

[@ringo-bf3xf]

Ok so now... there’s no Weller antique in Ohio. Lol.

[@BourbonJunkies]

Hahahahaha Buffalo Trace has to send it somewhere

[@paoloalfante3801]

Great concept boys but this is a flawed blind test because it isn't blind. I could tell that E was the darkest in 6 seconds before you guys picked up a glass.

[@davidyeung1287]

Do you work with Joey Flexx?

[@BourbonJunkies]

Sean and I both used to lol. Why do you ask?

[@davidyeung1287]

@@BourbonJunkies just curious. I'm an active powerlifter (and bourbon drinker). So I thought it was cool to see you rocking that shirt!

[@lukea.907]

neither are worth it, especially now that Weller which cost 40bux and were pretty available 4 years ago are still pretty available... if you add an extra zero to the price. One liquor store in my area is selling it for the low low price of 399 and the Full Proof (blue label) for 599...I don't even blame the store. I blame the people who would shell out the money. I guess if you wanna refill your empty Papi bottle hehe.

[@-thirteen]

Weller was a great cheap bourbon that is now a ridiculous pain in my ass.

[@TheMarkcu24]

Dude got shit faced in this one. Ha!

[@Midnightrider1177]

Irish whiskey shoot out??

[@BourbonJunkies]

Lol I think we'd need more than like 6 bottles

[@Midnightrider1177]

Bourbon Junkies you just don’t keep much on hand? I guess that makes sense, you are the “Bourbon” junkies 😂

[@B_E_C_K]

These guys are drinking the Bugatti, Konigsegg, Pagani, McLaren, and ripping on Porsche and BMW...

[@chesterpuffington8368]

Damn, is Pappy that good?

[@BourbonJunkies]

I mean it's not bad

[@chesterpuffington8368]

Bourbon Junkies So, it absolutely great I imagine? In retrospect I should have done the 125$ pour at the Brown Hotel in Louisville right?

[@joedzny]

DUDE..Your destroying your palate with the nachos!!! At least drink some water first

[@bcp5296d]

W12 is so overvalued. I'd much rather drink antique.

[@BourbonJunkies]

100%

[@ghantakha5568]

Can’t say blind tasting with so much of chatting with each other , its more like from people’s choice

[@wd9581]

Drunken reviews are not very accurate

[@BourbonJunkies]

Still pretty accurate

[@drewanderson2401]

I’ll say it 1000 times, 107 is far better than ORVW

[@dgruebele]

So, Sean is clearly drunk, huh?

[@btwarner2124]

No chance in hell you find this in Ohio like they say.

[@Bobbyholmesclubstep]

"Red Fruit" has gotta be right up there with "Stone Fruit" as one of the most useless tasting notes. Apples, cherries, raspberries, grapes, strawberries, and cranberries are all red fruits and none of them smell similar so saying something smells/tastes like "red fruit" means absolutely nothing. If it smells like raspberries or tastes like strawberries, just say that!

[@Posterharpua]

Lot B is not worth the upcharge and very few people would even be able to pick it out in a blind taste test. ORVW and PVW 15, on the other hand, are both incredible.

[@BourbonJunkies]

Lot b being a lower proof just handicaps it.

[@hybridm3]

Put the order in the comments! You guys are so all over the place it’s hard to follow....

[@BourbonJunkies]

This videos pretty old buddy. Watch a newer list (we just put one out it should be much easier to follow)

[@soffwhere]

I’ve had poor man’s and pappy as well. I agree with these guys. You can tell them apart, but they’re very close. It reminds me of the Kobe / MJ debate. Incredibly similar, but we all know Kobe did it best. ;)

[@btwarner2124]

You think Satan made that dude? 💀💀😂😂

[@enriquemireles8947]

Some places would have cut off these guys before they started the taste test.

[@Thedogfather209]

hey guys well put pappy 15 off the rack so you dont fuck up and not pick it first. lol rigged

[@BourbonJunkies]

If you think we care enough to rig it you're insane. I've out my favorite whiskey last in blinds several times in videos of ours.

[@taylordeal6006]

Eat before the show dude. Listening to you chew/smack directly into mic is not entertaining.