Were We Lied To About Electric Cars?

[@Mr.Knuffeldood]

I live in one of the countries that is pushing those EV's and solar pannels on your roof so hard, that 1/3 of the homes have solar power. Now we have to PAY for every bit we don't use, but send onto the grid.. What they now say is: you all your solar energy if the sun shines. They go as far: charge your EV when the sun shines. Yeah, the most sun if collected during the day time, when you are at work. So, to power your car you have to PAY again for the expensive normal rate.

[@kingm3llo]

I don't know about other places, but where I live electricity is dirt cheap. Its like $5 to fully charge an i4 at home and it has a real world range of about 270-310 miles. Once all these new electric cars start depreciating it makes gonna make a lot of sense to get used. You're right though that the cheapest option is to just get an old gas car

[@Rapshout]

Can’t argue with that price to be honest, thanks for watching:)

[@anonNemo]

one correction though. yes power plants are not entirely green but they are at least twice as efficient than ICE car engines running the same principles. thats why its cheaper to fuel up an EV than fueling up a combustion engine. typical car engine runs anywhere between 20-40% efficiency while power plants run between 40-60% efficiency. some electricity will also be offset by renewable energy. so energy and carbon footprint wise EV is still cheaper and cleaner by almost 50% for the first 10 years of use the gap grows the longer you use it. where i live electricity cost .25USD/kwh while gas cost 1.11USD/L. if an EV runs an average of 10km per kwh thats a 65% drop in fuel cost where i live. if you drive less than 20000km(12000miles) per year then it might be cheaper to buy a used car for the first 10 years

[@bigglyguy8429]

You seem to be forgetting that currently governments are pushing for control over you, so they're pushing you to buy an ipad on wheels. Once the subsidies dry up and they want their petrol revenue from EV drivers you'll be charged WAY higher electrical bills, likely with "smart" meters that know when you're charging a car, plus you'll be taxed per mile. And if by weight, EVs are much heavier and do more damage to roads, so the 'savings' you speak of are very much a temporary bait n switch.

[@Rapshout]

Yeah I see what you are saying and if it’s solely based on cost effectiveness I don’t think you factored in the initial price of said car. For example my first car was around 600£ (second hand ofc) and it ran very well. Evs on the other hand are immediately in the thousands. Let me know your thoughts and thanks for watching :)

[@MaticTheProto]

Fun fact: a (not very aerodynamic) Smart #1 towing a one horse trailer consumes half as much energy as a vw golf that doesn’t tow anything on the same route.

[@anonNemo]

@@Rapshout I agree upfront cost is a big factor in EV. as all of the savings you will get over the years will be paid upfront. i bought my old (90s)toyota used for 2000usd. over the past 10 years of owning it i spent roughly 4000usd on repairs alone. and while i agree its still cheaper you also have to consider the fact that i drive way less than 20000km per year. if you spend over 1000usd/euro a year on gas and maintenance then EV would be more economical. if my math is correct around 1000usd a year on gas is the break even point for 5 years if you spend more on gas then you don't even have to wait that long to justify the upfront cost. bonus point is you don't have to worry about changing oil and all the maintenance work. as electric motors have minimal moving parts so less oil change cost as well. the only maintenance you need is changing tires every 4 years

[@danthetube5707]

I don't think we were lied to. Its just that EV's are a better alternative to ICE vehicles. A lot of what you are saying is factually incorrect and is one of the route causes of misinformation. LFP batteries are being largly produced for EV's now, which use no cobalt. Where cobalt is used in lithium ion batteries, it can be recycled and used again at end of life. That can't be said for the cobolt used in refining fuel. Also in many countries, the generation of electricity is not 100% from fossil fuel power stations. In a lot of cases it is 0% to 50%, the remaining from renewable energy generation. Also you need to factor how efficient running an EV compared to ICE is. Also you are not considering the amount of energy used and CO2 footprint of getting the fuel into your petrol tank in the first place i.e pumping out of the ground, refining and transportation. I would be interested to know your views on these facts.

[@Rapshout]

Thanks for your feedback, one thing I can say about your point regarding the production of fuel for ICE would be that fossil fuels have more uses that just fuelling vehicles where as obtaining the lithium and cobalt for ev batteries is kind of just expanding on an industry that is unethical. (Batteries of which that do require cobalt). Thanks for watching

[@danthetube5707]

@@Rapshout what's ethical.about extracting fossil fuels from the ground and then burning it, resulting in killing thousands of people through air pollution and climate change? I'm not saying lithium mining is ethical, but just a better alternative. Plus it can be recycled from batteries and used again, preventing the need of continued mining.

[@lightfaeries7]

You need to research fully

[@danthetube5707]

@@lightfaeries7 totally agree

[@grandman1701]

That is flat out stupid stuff that you are talking 😂😅

[@Rapshout]

Only thing flat round here is your EV Battery 🤣🤣

[@Rapshout]

Thanks for watching though !

[@lightfaeries7]

Please research for yourself

[@MaticTheProto]

4:10 no actually. Because you keep polluting in that old inefficient shitbox

[@Rapshout]

As apposed to someone else making use of a car that is already produced and in working order?

[@MaticTheProto]

@@Rapshout the thing is: ICE cars keep combusting fuel which harms the environment. Old ones moreso than new ones

[@MaticTheProto]

7:11 okay now you must be shitting me The usefulness of hydrogen for personal transport has been disproven many times. You claim to have informed yourself but really you didn’t do that

[@Rapshout]

I claimed I haven't done the research yet, thanks for watching!

[@MaticTheProto]

@@Rapshout I have informed myself and was even at a small presentation by toyota Germany. Imo hydrogen is at most useful for trucks