What's wrong with these engineers?

[@richardcornelius1050]

What’s “wrong” with the “engineers” IS the fact that they never have to work on the products they “engineer”

[@M8Stealth]

Having been involved with the design of that tractor, would say it was more politics that drove AGCO to go away from the C18 and not the engineers.

[@jim8027]

They design it to go together easy and could give 2 shits for the mechanic who has to fix their crap designs!

[@melvingibson4525]

​@@M8Stealth figures. It's usually management / marketing people looking for bonuses that jack everything up then the engineers get blamed

[@almarkowbender]

Engineers rarely get to make decisions by themselves, management is almost always involved, it's a corporate mindset problem not just an engineering problem.

[@prevost8686]

@@almarkowbender You are correct. There are few companies that the engineer’s best work gets past the bean counters much less EPA requirements.

[@ryanjohnson4320]

This guy is truly amazing. The stuff he takes apart AND puts back together is very impressive. Think of it, he does it all, tractors,trucks, engines, transmissions, powershifts etc. His customers truly don't know how good they have it.

[@fergalosullivan2620]

This Warren is a martyr. Guys like him are what keep the rural economy going and the bedrock of agriculture. It's a pity most common people don't understand or appreciate what a crazy skill set this man actually has. The designer of this tractor and lots of others should be made repair them so they make accessibility a fundamental criteria for service technicians to work on. Great video

[@mikebraithwaite3288]

People that watch KZbin should automatically know to hit the like button. How does Warren have 20k Views and only 2.4k likes. That is disgraceful and disrespectful.

[@denjhill]

My god, Warren, you are one hard worker. Not just the mechanical side, but the business side, and then the KZbin side. I hope you're being fairly compensated.

[@roadsideservice2406]

Perfect timing, just sat down for coffee

[@natersalad889]

Ive always said if engineers had to work on their own crap, stuff would be designed different.

[@matkremzar5474]

being a mechanic is so underrated! good work!

[@jimlondon1]

Engineers made me build the library of swear words that I have today. 🤬🤬🤬

[@vincenthalas7055]

I have to say Warren, you really do a great job with your camera shots ; squirreling away in nooks and crannies, great job!

[@MC-re2ry]

Warren, you have to be the toughest, smartest, most determined mechanic I ever knew of.

[@brucemackinnon3340]

Great video Warren,some challenges were ahead of you but you got er done Thanks for showing us the process

[@michaelweatherhead9470]

Thanks for the video Warren, engineers and designer's are really something that's for sure. Take care of yourself and family and be Blessed and Josie and other dogs 🐶.

[@larryjindrich6108]

As soon as it ships "its not my problem" attitude. It gets real old real quick. Fantastic job Warren. You have more patience than should be needed by any one man. Keep the faith and the billings going.

[@MTHDCS]

I feel for ya! 50 years of wrenching on cranes and most other heavy equipment glad I'm retired. I had a few repairs that I just couldn't do as was too big at 6'4"...in those instances I'd call in a friend that was a dwarf mechanic that worked for Nettleton Heavy Haulers. He was about 4' tall and would scurry into places that I couldn't access. Good times back then!

[@RR-vz2ld]

Completely understand, as I was a bigger mechanic with pretty big hands that many times got crammed into tight spaces, and paying for it now in my late 60s.

[@Only-one-life-68]

Your one ☝️ hard working dude.. If only there were more like you in this industry warren.. Thanks from Uk 🇬🇧

[@twistin140]

Thanks for the share Warren. I know i don't interject much or often, but i used to install aftermarket factory A/C. We used to use inline splices on those hoses. we had a product called " lube and seal" the fittings were ribbed and we'd work those fittings in then had these heavy duty clamps to seal them up. I know that replacing the whole line is probably the best idea, but some times those inline splice fittings come in handy. just puttin my 2 cents in.... it's ok if ya call me a moron in the next video.... :-)

[@Jdigger4130]

man... I shudder to think what the next generation of machine will entail... looks like a service writers wet dream on that equipment.. Cost of ownership sure looks like a gouge the whole way through... way to wrench W! Love watching ya get these issues solved! Cheers

[@richardhoneywell7411]

Great video Warren it's interesting how engineers design some of this equipment. That's supposed to be serviceable. Glad you were able to figure out away to fix this Challenger. Thanks for sharing Warren.

[@douglasmayherjr.5733]

I always thought an engineer should work as a mechanic in their chosen field for a few years before designing something. Seems excessive to need a crane to replace a DEF Sensor. Why they could not design the tank with an access panel in the cab to change out the DEF Tank Sensor is beyond reason. It’s not just farm equipment. It is all equipment. Thanks for sharing your time and experience, Warren. I appreciate your Videos a bunch.

[@melvingibson4525]

What if we let engineers design products without the EPA constantly changing requirements and marketing / management people completely without any say in the design?

[@RampFisha]

@@melvingibson4525 absolutely that too.

[@rw3dog]

What a PITA that job is. I think the engineers planned on the tractor never needing to be fixed so no one would ever have to get to any of those lines or do anything to them.. 🤣. Nice work as usual

[@rodgercottrill3342]

U should have. Been a lawyer but ur the hardest working mechanic i every seen

[@hustlinao1488]

To do these jobs with one hand is unbelievable one on camera one wrenching! just amazing!

[@geraldguyette470]

Those hoses in the way actually help hold the socket in place , a good thing . thanks for the video Warren .

[@Nick-nw6zg]

Love the way you stop short to say hello to the puppy dogs in your

[@robertnelson4755]

When things go horrible for you, who is an actual maestro with working on equipment it makes me feel better when my chit doesn't go as smoothly as I'd like. I thought I was always the only one that had weeks like this. I'm glad either I joined your club or you joined mine.

[@fuhrstpuhl3278]

Knowledge......persevereance......and patience overcomes all in time......great video.

[@merlepatterson]

That one mount bolt is a good candidate for a Tone P150 torque multiplier to get in there and make it easy to loosen. Kind of spendy though, but a good tool to own.

[@kellykonoske91]

Well, I dont know about a "runt" Warren. Your a badass to me. I know my 240 lb. ass with bad knees would NOT have been very succesful in this situation...For sure! Take care sir. Todd Konoske the retired trucker.

[@tracydiller9378]

Great video Warren as always and don't feel bad I use to move and get into tight places when I was a younger man many moons ago LOL. As far as engineers go I have worked with some really good ones and I have worked with some that hade there heads up there ass spent may years in Automotive manufacturing and at times it just blew my mind what some of these guys where thinking. Hope you got the information on that DD15 you was working on with the fuel issue. Once again great video be Blessed.

[@paulgilliland2992]

Great work . Not easy doing this alone so thank you.

[@michaelmcdonald6727]

Hey Warren, wow that was a lot of work for only getting half done! Hope the rest goes back together easier but rarely does. Those engineers must have some government experience! lol Thanks much for sharing your video with us.

[@ACatKrom]

FWIW a larger hose will flow more than a smaller one, even if they both go a fitting the size of the smaller hose. Easiest example is an impact will hit harder, and spin faster when you use a 1/2" hose instead of a 3/8", even though the input to the impact is 1/4" pipe, and you use the same quick connects

[@fluke196c]

yes exactly its fluid friction coefficient which is a function of hose length

[@jeffthurmond7537]

I bet you there's about a 100 mechanics that would just say no to that job. You sir are a true technician.

[@kevinsiedschlag429]

The old 1370 case books are the best I've seen!! Your wife could overhaul one with that book, picture for everything!!

[@YOU-vj4fl]

Glad your back on ,gonna watch this……………………by the way,how did the DD15 deal work out? Never seen you before be so undecided with your work,you know you like that challenge,hope you found that problem,tell us you did?

[@johnfoster6205]

It like you wrestling with a bear. 😂😂😂 awesome work and great video.

[@dougsweldingfabrication953]

Man... I think this was a theft prevention design. They didn't want anyone to grab that part and walk away.

[@johnwaby4321]

It's about time warren that you had a nice easy job for a change .

[@RR-vz2ld]

Before retiring from being a diesel mechanic for 38 years, I remember training a new Tec, and going behind the sleeper on the truck and telling him you can't see it, but follow that hose forward to somewhere in the framerail besides the transmission and behind that cross member is the part you need to replace.

[@Prariedog]

Great video Warren Thanks for sharing Safe travels

[@gordonkraich3129]

Great video, I’ve always said the engineers should have to work on their own bright ideas before they head to market.

[@bcbloc02]

No way engineers ever think about the future

[@samcooke2742]

Whatever Warren charges his customers, it's not enough. What a hard working son of a bits he is.

[@coleyoung7997]

Warrens like dirty harry does every dirty job his way Great vid keep up the awsome vids thanks

[@shanestickland2745]

I too am a HD mechanic and I feel your pain. Some days can really make you question whether you can stand doing this anymore.

[@rudywernimont3289]

I had a fuel sender unit on john deere 4920 sprayer that I was replacing and one of the bolt inserts came out of the tank. I had to bring it back to the shop. I pulled cab off the sprayer to fix that insert and put the new sender.

[@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353]

Sounds familiar.

[@hawkeyemarine]

"How big a boy are you?" "I'll come down there and whip your ass!" Roy D. Mercer The international tours of Bixby

[@petenikolic5244]

Pity you cant just cut a hole in the floor over the def tank to get5 at the stupid sensor and change it

[@hustlinao1488]

My dads Allis Chalmers tractor has ran for the last 40 yrs. It hasn't got 1 wire not 1.Chain on front for starter.

[@raycollington4310]

How could anyone sign off a design where cab removal was necessary to get to an Adblue tank sensor. I did wonder if you were joking. Thank you very much for the video as ever Warren, much appreciated.

[@terryrogers1025]

My word, that is one lot of work just to change a sensor, the problem I think with the engineers designing this equipment is that they have little to no field experience. My own thinking is that people developing/ designing these machines today need to have at least 2 years of field service work experience to really understand and realize what some of the problems are when servicing equipment, I really think it would help out a lot, but, just my thoughts anyway. Thanks for the tag along sir, enjoying probably more than you are. 😬🥴🙄😊

[@gbentley8176]

You are correct. Years ago pretty much everything was accessible.Lots of design for quick access coming from ww2. Thats all gone.

[@billdornan4379]

How did you make out with that Detroit no start? Kindest regards,Sunshine Coast,BC 🇨🇦

[@zacs8654]

Planned obsolescence, bring back Big Bud!

[@lindenhawthorn4761]

We put a lot of those sending units in buses, one of them recently is number six hundred something on the waiting list so it will probably be out of commission for at least a few months.

[@larryd8224]

The "book" answer is a requirement to conduct a Maintainability demonstration. This is to be done during the Test & Evaluation phase and performed on a new prototype design. The demonstration is to verify maintenance tasks, task times, and sequences. Often, prior design choices "during the concept phase" of the early product design limit later design additions or changes. Unfortunately, the experience necessary to schedule and conduct an actual physical maintainability demonstration is lacking. Or can be limited in scope by the project manager to obvious preventative maintenance (PM) tasks. Problems with missing or mismatched maintenance information in manuals is due to lack of "Integrated Support Planning".

[@wimtheeuwen7315]

Updates on the Detroit , Haysqueeze and that cheap N 14 guy please Warren.

[@bryanbishop8973]

I've got a Challenger Wheel tractor it's got a Assert / Perkins engine. Other than Common Rail fuel delivery it's not so complicated but, I've had to replace a sensor or two. It's a nightmare.

[@559043]

that sounded funny when you were taking that bolt out 🤣🤣 18:49

[@Mark.R_]

My cousin designs the emissions systems for large mining equipment, a well known company fond of yellow paint. He was telling me that most if ends up in large 3rd world country mines. The first thing the customer does is remove 100k plus of emissions systems off each machine and sell it in the local scrap metal market.

[@joeyhand9644]

Number 1 in top 5 KZbin channels

[@outdoor044]

If the valve was bad it could have allowed hot coolant to flow for too long or all the time when the DEF wasn't cold. Eventually overheating the def which is not only bad for the def quality but also speeds up ammonia permiation into the quality and temp sensor failing the sensor. Just a thought.

[@maxpuppy96]

Warren you are amazing, anyone who works on equipment all day like I do can really appreciate what you do. So many different talents from rebuilding engines to metal fabrication to hydraulic repair, I would never attempt some of the stuff you do, you are the man and Josie's the girl. Parts have become a real bitch.

[@jasonbayer2096]

I feel ya today I replaced a maxforce 9 egr valve and if I seen that engineer that said it was a good idea the studs hit the egr cooler and they put one bolt in between the valve cover and the cooler that one was a nightmare to get out should have just pulled the entire cooler but I was able to get it off with a off set wrench and even with it only grabbed the corners but it broke free thank goodness for flank drive +

[@Peanutbeards]

Thanks warren for the vid!! Really enjoy your knowledge

[@colossus5752]

Hello, I spoke to my friend about Freightliner issue and he is saying it’s burned contacts and possibly ecu problem , they burn somehow, hope it helps, good luck.

[@karenhatt9682]

that coolant valve for the def tank header must be changed that fails open and the high temp causes the quality /temp sensor to malfunction but i assume you already know that seen many headers changed and that valve being bad will do the exact same thing to the new one unfortunately

[@2nickles647]

Warren. I use to be those on the fat side.😂 Till I lost 100# for the good of myself. anyway Im 69 still working. I've been a mechanic for over 35 yrs now. Never taken my vehicle to a shop. I work at a auto parts store. An old guy comes to the store goes up to the younger guys and wants a simple ignition coil. The kid at the counter asks him...yr..make.. model. Engine size..the old guy tells him. I just need a 12 volt coil. The kid is mystified..so he tells him.. I don't have it..I tell the young man. We have the parts. I do a quick simple search for a Ford coil. Find the part. The old guy thanks me and says. You must be a mechanic and know vehicles or farm equipment. He shakes my hand and he says it again. I've been to 3 different places and everyone is telling me the same crap. We don't have it. You immediately know what I need and I can get my vehicle running today. Same situation..but it's a coil for a 6v system. I watch again. Same thing. We don't have it. I walk to help. Find the guys parts and this guy is an older guy than me. Auto parts stores sell parts period. They hire young people or people who have no idea what they are selling just to sell parts. Many times I get returns because it doesn't fit. On the receipt it tells you what they ordered. I repeat is your vehicle such and such? It's either yes or no. Mind you also the customer doesn't know what vehicle they are driving too. Yup... they point to the door and say.its out there. I tell them. Get your registration and we can find out what your driving. I get the registration and tell them. The reply is..O I know that. 😂 Instead of arguing. I try to find what they need. Again...they don't know what it's called. Or the husband sends the wife and she has no clue. I get calls from women and asking for parts. The woman does not when I start asking questions. But I hear the man on the phone telling her what I need. So I ask to speak with him instead. 😂😂 Anyway I'll stop bitching. 😂 God bless Warren

[@robertoobregon3750]

Then the power goes out or the computer does not work and they are lost. Some places still have the parts books and they know how to use them.

[@butchhill2001]

i said it before, an ill say it again, warn is one dam hard working man

[@davidholder3207]

An old saying of mine. What do you call a field full of engineers? A vacant lot.

[@KG-yn9qi]

Yep ! Hear ya! I am 63 gave the finger to them at 60. Started full time working oil rig at 15 so 45 years non stop working. old man do it all! was the “hey buddy” to all from before 15. Took VW bug motor out apart put back, with help from a teacher and a mentor. At 12 ( 1971) …. So what I am saying is the knowledge I have with ability… will not be available! My nick name as 16 (note: was moved out and on my own at 15 when started full time work ! )Because if my skill to repair / fix et. I was needed! So I could do little wrong unless got stupid!!! So now at 63… the world as it has become …. Feel bad for my grand kids… but I will shooting defense, when kicking in my door but as for rest??? we are doomed …. My entertainment is people like yourself! Good luck!!!! do what you have too and rest when ya can!!

[@subzjc]

Warren you are a bad-assed son of a gun.

[@DavidBuell-hz5vc]

Those DEF headers are a pita they never want to go in

[@westernstar4964]

Alot of diagnostics I've seen recently calls for alot of changing parts with no testing procedures

[@stephenheyes4324]

As always Warren great video

[@ryanpreston9]

Have the same problem with sending units on trucks. Heat valves would stay stuck on and burn out the sending units. I k ow on most trucks with the key off the heat valve should be closed.

[@eastpantherbenz]

The DEF system part that always breaks, hey lets make it so they have to take the cab off to fix it! Way to go engineers lol

[@jronayne88]

love watching your videos. if i ever take a vacatiun to northern california ill reach out and be a hand for a few days lol. Had a shit day at the ol john deer ag dealership today. always nice knowing youre not the only one getting shit on.

[@NerveLindsay4187]

Thanks for the Video Warren 👍

[@billw4746]

Another comment I also use copper anti seize on AC lines. Sometimes I can get them loose using a butane torch.

[@bombardier3qtrlbpsi]

Warn great work as always 👍

[@flyfishing7107]

Man I’d love to come and work a apprenticeship under you!

[@trevormansfield6495]

Did you find time to sort that DD out Warren?

[@Katrina_L]

Hi,great video! Are you interested in trying a thermal camera to inspect the performance of cylinders,welding for proper joints,etc?

[@petermolnar8667]

This is one thing the soviets got right on the Belarus etc tractors, you can remove the floor... They are fairly easy to service, but they do need it often. There are just so many questionably-made parts on the market for these, e.g. we try to buy the O-rings by size and made of Viton, because what you'd get by part number won't last usually, and that's just the tip of the iceberg. Last time a thermostat didn't even last 100 hours in it, but at least it fit.

[@btwbrand]

Nice of the programmers to stop the lower limit of their temperature sensor below absolute zero by only 108 degrees. Upper limit is actually the melting point of the Nylon tank 325 Degrees.

[@Nick-nw6zg]

Warren you should try to get your hands on a laser pointer? That would be really cool

[@morkorson4196]

That's some bullshit right there, CAT just want you to call the dealership for repairs.

[@billw4746]

I feel Warrens pain that floor mat probably weighs at least 80 pounds. And the seats are a night mare to remove when you cannot air them up. I was called out to a Case STX 440 Quad because the ac blower was not working. The seat the compressor would not work I finally pulled the seat cushion and I connected a schrader valve to an air line and raised the seat. Then when I got the seat raised the compressor worked I found a bad connection in the seat wiring harness. But I don`t think any engineer should design anything until they have worked as a mechanic for at least 2 years. That should part of their college education.

[@gregshearer423]

90% of them would never last that 2 years

[@josiahjosiah534]

engineers, they only care about how fast they can be assembled on the line

[@johnwesner3935]

As soon as the direction given to the engineers involves making these things serviceable things will get better. That engineering degree doesn't mean anything without something to apply it to. I'd try to figure out if I could cut an access hole. That's what the engineers should have designed!😊

[@WinnfieldCustoms]

wow what an ordeal

[@donpampel3332]

As you would say Warren. What a pain in the arss

[@swallowinn4410]

Hi Warren I feel your pain and exasperation. I thought maybe the hose is intended to be disconected from the rear of the cab as the instructions mentioned then as you lift the cab access to the front connector would becpme possible? I know everyone likes to rag on the engineers and I have done my share. But the saying walk a mile in the other guy's shoes is there for a reason. You have a finished proudct there to be critical of. The engineer and there are many engineers to build the unit, only have instructions put all the units required togeather and make it work as cheaply as possible. I am not saying they could not do a better job with maintenance and repair planning., i am just saying that it is not easy for dosens of people working on diffrent sections of a unit to come up with a functional design that satisfyes both production and aftermarket repair considerations and problems. You are talented and have done enough conversions to know sometimes getting it to fit togeather and work correctly take precidence over it not getting built at all. Keep the videos coming but maybe just give the engineers a little more credit for doing a better job than it appears at the repair point of view.

[@douglaskuhn3781]

TSC sells a 'blow gun' that's 2.5' or 3' long. Helps keep your face out of the dust so you don't get COPD like me.

[@CrimeVid]

Made me laugh Warren, that stuff about being a little skinny guy ! I’m on the bigger side, but that’s not it, it’s just that at work I always wanted to be taller, or shorter or have longer arms or something. It’s very rare you’re exactly the right size for what you’re doing, and you won’t be doing it often !

[@gbentley8176]

To think they spend tons of time and money prettying up the style of the cab and bonnet at the expense of simple access to essential parts. No wonder you get frustrated. Do they ever listen to the complaints of you chaps who fix the stuff.? Good to see you and the Dogs doing OK. Best wishes from the UK.

[@altaylor951]

They should make it a prerequisite to graduation for these "engineers", to work on fixing equipment, for at least a year, before they graduate, to give them a better appreciation of what the people who have to fix their creations, have to go through. Maybe then, things might have a chance to improve. I feel your frustration Warren, as i'm of the old school work ethic as well. Too few of us left in this day and age.

[@gbentley8176]

It is frustrating. Long retired now, so working on my vintage car is a joy. A few spanners , grease gun and all is fixed. Nothing much is hidden at all.

[@edward-x3s6f]

Accounts always control the outcome of a price , which inturn leads an engineer to follow , this is simple business economics

[@HotAxleBox]

If they published test specs, they'd be really out of pocket on parts. Must be thousands of people daily that buy parts blindly and still suffer the same defect when it's installed.