Westworld Season 2 Ending Explained

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What did the end of Westworld Season 2 mean? We break down all the symbols, secrets, and that post-credits scene. (SPOILERS)
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[@ScreenCrush]

What's next for season 3?

[@vi8799]

we saw that William was alive during park evacuation, and medic saw him, so in that moment he is alive and he is human. i believe that Dolores took his brain core ( his personality was in forge), and postcredits scene is his training for replacing a real William in real world. i think that will happen in s3

[@bobblehead7002]

spicy meataballs

[@JayEduards]

Futureworld

[@ScreenCrush]

Great theory Vitality!

[@carlos.deoliveirafilho]

Vitaliy Kozuk this and the post credit should be a part of the "hell" Dolores sent William. Cause in a moment of the episode, she said that she'll not give his death for him..

[@megustastuff]

I may be alone but I kind of like Sylvester and Felix? They're the C3P-O and R2-D2 of the "Westworld" universe.

[@jason4275]

They also need no food or water to survive.

[@mancerayder5751]

jason4275 Just because you don’t see something happen on screen doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Why should the show spend precious time showing them eating and drinking? Not everything needs to be spoon fed to the audience.

[@xxxxxxxxSoULxxxxxxxx]

Gordy Anson They’re my favorite characters

[@kevincarter2020]

The cartoon cats

[@niebuhr6197]

Gordy Anson Felix is Laurel, Sylvester is Hardy

[@bethkruse4530]

I feel like William being questioned by Emily at the end after living his eternal hell week, makes one line earlier in the season much more prominent. When Emily collects William from Ghost Nation, Akecheta asks her why he should give William to her. And she says that she will provide him with a much better torture. And so it's ironic that she literally tortures him with these memories.

[@Tony_100x]

I’ve watched the entire show stoned and understood everything but once I got sober I couldn’t remember shit. 😂

[@laughsngasps]

same lmao.

[@Casey-dy2oo]

Nick Foles the key is. . . NEVER be sober.

[@lainabanks6334]

Nick Foles Same. By the ending I was like wait my fucking timeline screwed up because of this bowl 😂

[@owenwalker1774]

Watching the show Lost while stoned was allot of fun.👍

[@onenacho1237]

Casey THC memory recall 😂🤪

[@Vortex-ln8gj]

The interlocking hexagons look to me like Infinity, and considering Delos wanted to achieve eternal life, that seems fitting.

[@ScreenCrush]

Great point

[@folarinpearse]

I thought about this too.

[@jkane8299]

And Bernard is playing the demigod-benevolent character to Dolores (she's the antithesis); sort of represents the duality of the links. Kind of like a futuristic biblical origin story?

[@nathanrowalnd3375]

Vortex 1711 I like that idea, that makes me think if the two interlocking hexagon represent humans and hosts, how one wants to become the other?

[@ruthruthie2931]

Kinda like the infinity symbol the number 8 and a honey comb. Be a good little worker bee.

[@noseefood1943]

I need to watch season 2 multiple times, for fidelity.

[@a.g4521]

I need "Westworld season 2 ending explained explained"

[@annunakkk1]

Delores escaped using Charlotte's host body. She brought with her the data needed to copy hosts. They're out.

[@TJSweet9]

Same here, that's why we are all here A.G

[@Richard68434]

It’s actually amazing that, much of season 1 was focused on the robots’ journey to gain free will, and think freely like humans And as Season 2 showed, because mankind’s free will have always been based on survival, and because robots are so much tougher and easier to pass on than humans, they are are in reality far more free than humans. Very Philosophical stuff

[@chrissy4144]

I know right! They spent the 1st season doing everything to get to the real world, but upon realizing the flaws of that world in the 2nd season, they decided to go to a new one, a better one without limits or pain. I liked how this review involved religious connections because I did make the connection between the new world and heaven. The way the hosts left their bodies behind when moving from one world to another. It was like their souls were going to their paradise. Whereas this channel thinks that place is Hell I think it's Heaven. It was so beautiful like the Garden of Eden. I think if anything WestWorld was Hell in disguise.

[@Newhorizons4u]

She put Teddy's pearl into the forge as seen in the episode and she knows he doesn't want to continue on the journey with her so count him out.

[@ScreenCrush]

Good point, but I could see Bernard bringing him back as a tool to use against her in S3

[@folarinpearse]

Also a great point!

[@anniedowns]

OH, that's a good one!!

[@OscarRamirez-ge4ib]

I don't think that Dolores actually gives a fly's ass about Teddy

[@ReFradyCat]

I wouldn't right away. James M. is a big name on the small screen... and frankly, one of the few yummy males to look at. A lot could happen with Delos if they find his Pearl and decide that it's worth it to salvage the tech and rebuild from his template rather than create an original. Can you imagine a Teddy put back into place with no cornerstone present? Something will always be off. Constant malfunction. I'm hoping it's not the end for Teddy. His story was unique in a tale of ubber powerful robots acting up: he's gentle and just wants peace.

[@PeterPing]

In episode 4, when Akecheta speaks into Stubbs’ ear and tells him “You live only as long as the last person who remembers you.” Dolores said the same thing to Bernard when they made it out of the park. Therefore, Stubb is definitely a host.

[@anniedowns]

Hmmm, good catch! I didn't remember that..but what I did remember was that when Stubbs was tied up and they picked up Emily....Stubbs says to Emily, "It seems like they are only killing the hosts so I think we are ok..." This makes me think that the reverse was actually true, they were only killing humans not hosts, and that Emily and Stubbs are both hosts"....What do you think? It is very suspect that Stubbs survived everything he did without even a scratch. Also, remember in Season 1 when Stubbs takes Bernard aside after Theresa dies and tells him he is sorry...wink wink, that he knew about their affair, as well as what was happening to Emily? Perhaps Ford gave him the same 'God-Conscious ' that he gave Maeve?

[@cjbray6584]

White Rabbit I thought I had heard that once before in the show. Good catch

[@mersudkendic4944]

This show doesn't look like anything to me...

[@jokerman0000]

lol i see what you did there.

[@novalight4863]

🤣 🤣 🤣

[@sosolinhasnba2k24]

Hahahaha

[@resulkaragoz1867]

hahahahaha

[@ccole99]

Come on... I like those two specially Felix!!! The scene where he’s told about what’s going on he looks at his hands and start looking around to see if he’s a host is classic!!

[@arbitraryname7273]

Lbr, we all looked at our hands at some point in S1. :P

[@arawii1498]

they were one of my fav toooo, how can they be unliked!

[@EpicBunty]

cos they are fucking idiots who in a sense caused all the bloody nonsense!! if only they had wiped maeves memories when she first began waking up.. sigh

[@KabbalahSherry]

@@EpicBunty - Why should they do that to her though?! 🤦🏻‍♀️ She is a whole new species! A new creation! You don't just kill something like that before it can even get a chance to live. Felix saw that Maeve was a *person* - a person w/feelings, emotions, capable of loving a child, etc. I'd like to see how easily you could "dispatch" a being like that. 😒 If you say it would be no problem for you to do... you're a psychopath buddy. Check yourself, honestly. 🙄 smh

[@EpicBunty]

@@KabbalahSherry getting worked up over a t.v. show and calling others on the internet a psychopath sheesh talk about hypocrisy. I hope someday in the future super intelligent AI hold you hostage and before they skin you alive, you remember this comment. they had been wiping her memories all the time. why didn't they do it then at that one crucial moment ?? its not like killing her they are just wiping her moemories! idiot

[@Jofin101]

This has been the best review for that bloody crazy confusing episode! Love the biblical references. Now to watch the entire season again...

[@JScal5]

Josephine Katabarwa ditto!!

[@MichaelPReid-db5wv]

yeah, well done!

[@luxon4]

this is the worst fucking thing ive ever seen. the explanations should be about the fucking TV show not other fairy tales he connected it to.

[@chrissy4144]

@@luxon4 If you need a summary of what happened then there are a bunch of places you can look for that...I would much rather have an explanation of the deeper meaning behind all of this.

[@patrickjensen6660]

Vulcan is Roman, not Greek. In Greek mythology, his name is Hephaestus ;)

[@ScreenCrush]

You’re right. Good catch

[@spartanhllacedaemon7049]

Actually, The romans stole almost everything from the greeks.There is not Jupiter nor neptune etc.It's Zeus, Hephaestus, Kronos.

[@aleksajankovic8063]

U mean Romanian

[@kai89tracid]

@@aleksajankovic8063 lol

[@danw3505]

Definitely subbed. By far the only season 2 ending explanation/exploration video I've watched that made any sense whatsoever, and actually understood what was happening in season 2. Can't wait for more.

[@Kevin-sy8uf]

I figured I'll give Westworld a try after being recommend to me. Now all I got is a massive existential crisis.

[@imovedtoanotherplaceuwu9355]

Bro same

[@slamandjam2]

The original draw of the show to me was the question it posed of "what really makes one human?" and where artificial intelligence fits among us. It really made you question what the real differences between humans and hosts are besides our hardware and nature of birth. I feel like they played out that narrative (no pun intended) with the first season, and this season, while exploring other interesting topics such as free will towards the end, was more of an adventure and a bit less philosophical. I'm curious to see where they will go with the show from here. I hope it doesn't evolve into a generic humans vs. AI/Robots type deal but I highly doubt they would go that route

[@ScreenCrush]

Well said

[@slamandjam2]

You could make the argument that humans are also just code in DNA. And couldn't you argue that even humans feel pain with its own unique algorithm reacting to data? What does "really feeling" truly mean?

[@Lanandr]

It’s sooo good that now we have even mass-market shows that ignite so many REALLY GOOD questions in people so that some of the questioning can wake up one day 👍👍👍 And after waking up you will be asking yourself much deeper questions like for example (similar to the above): are “phantoms” (=different COPIES OF YOU that participate with you in the learning piece called your life) are just programmed creatures or one day they can acquire kind of “independent” personality or soul? Creatures that i already consider not “phantoms” (awaken beloved, friends, soul mates) amaze me all time with the great growth in spiritual, mental, emitional, physical sense whereas i see that “phantoms” live their life with kind of “destiny” attitude and cannot change personality even a little... 🤔 And i always ask myself - could those soul mates be also kind of MY creatures so that there is no ANYBODY in this game except me??? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@putinscat1208]

It's technically electrical impulses. What's the diff?

[@ricksanchez8584]

And then you inject this code called "morphine" and the pain goes away for a while

[@seattlegirl2936]

I’d be really shocked if Teddy was a pearl in Delores’ purse. That’s the one person we can rule out.

[@ScreenCrush]

In hindsight, you’re right.

[@benhache5876]

No, not right, cause we saw Teddy in the valley beyond where Ake is...

[@anniedowns]

Totally agree Seattle Girl! But ScreenCrush brings up a good point...perhaps Bernard keeps a copy of Teddy to help control Delores??!

[@seattlegirl2936]

anniedowns gosh, after thinking a few days, I’m wondering if Dolores could have a copy, like you say, and put Teddy in a robot that didn’t look like Teddy...hmmmm talk about going down the rabbit hole like in Alice in Wonderland.

[@anniedowns]

Good Point Seattle Girl. Although, like ScreenCrush's theory, That it would be Bernard that brings Teddy back? Although, not sure how the heck he would pull that one off since Delores kept his "Pearl" and inserted him directly into Valley Beyond. But, remember how weird it was that Bernard kept staring at Teddy when they had him on a heap of bodies in one of the episodes (the bodies presumably pulled from the lake?) Perhaps he had already put a 'True' Copy of Teddy in another body? I have heard this throughout the season. We know there are copies of some of the hosts (like Bernard and Delores) Many people think that Stubbs is actually Teddy now. But it is weird how Stubbs was talking to Haloes at the end - he did sound a little bit like the original Teddy model. I didn't think there was anything to this theory until now, but remember when Ford was giving Teddy an 'upgrade' to pursue and 'remember' Wyatt?? I THINK it is safe to say that all of the characters in the 'Valley are off the show at least for now. Poor James Marsden, he almost never gets to be with his love in every movie/show he is in! X-men, Notebook, Enchanted, etc... In fact, the MiB makes a joke of this in the first Episode Season 1. Also, like ScreenCrush showed us, the one Technician that told Karl Strand that 1/3 of the hosts CPU were blank?? That would imply they are "gone". BUT...Then we heard that each host can live "as long as someone remembers you!" Maeve knows the real Teddy... oh i am getting rather twisted around here..

[@captaincluster316]

Legend has it that Yul Brynner has no fkin idea what's going on either.

[@lgd1974]

LOL

[@raulojeda8567]

Way better explained then emergency awesomeness.

[@acttanny]

Stubbs being a host really makes sense on a season re-watch. Maybe it's the Delos's security's arrogance, or maybe they really know Stubbs isn't human and thus don't trust him. Or why Akecheta lets him go (his core drive wasn't in the valley beyond) Also someone needs to cover for "Halores" when Delos figures out they didn't receive any files and most of their security and tech team was murdered in the forge. My only gripe was that the show is becoming more and more "black mirror". Especially with that William post credit scene. Not that trans-human, robots, and AI aren't fun sci-fi topics, but they really limiting in regards to what they believe humanity is. I understand humans are flawed, petty and if given power there is a significant tendency towards apathetic immoral behavior, but the survival drive isn't the determining factor in human being. People make sacrifices, they even make sacrifices for strangers. People choose to act contrary to their well being everyday. Logan's self destruction is an example. Lee Sizemore sacrifices himself only to live out his fantasy of being one with his better self. If every decision is made out of self survival, how do we explain suicide? Also The Forge may have 4 million "souls" but the sample isn't truly representative of humans as a whole. Being there are 8 billion of us living and at least ten times that dead. Also westworld's Clientele were mostly rich people, who aren't really good representatives of everyone on earth (ever). I mean money changes people, but I'm not sold that a multi billionaire and a poor asian rice farmer would be driven to act the same in Westworld. I maybe crazy (but it's early and I think its perfectly acceptable to go out on a limb) but I think that season three might involve or at least loosely allude to class struggle and how social hierarchy imprison us. Delores and "Halores" don't need to go to war with humanity they can simple infect the structure that humans already depend on for identity and instructions.

[@DrdrGames]

Chong Yang I’m pretty sure they said 4 billion souls. That’s a big sample. Also, painting people as being of lower moral quality just because they could afford West World (assuming 4 million is correct) just shows ignorance on your part. The poor and rich are just as morally ambiguous as each other. The only “class” struggle we’ll see in season 3 is that of between Hosts and Humans.

[@TimMFWolfe]

Great points -- Sizemore is a pretty vivid repudiation of Ford's claim that humans can't change, or are slaves to their survival drive. Both are obviously facetious points, and I hope the show increasingly complicates that assertion. And yeah, the park being the place where the 1% can relax their morals has humongously skewed the view of humanity presented. It might be hoping too much, but it would be awesome if the show did as you suggest and explore the way the social/economic structure imprisons and defines us. Or at the least, had Dolores and Bernard discovering that humans were not in fact all like those they knew in WW. (Maeve, being more empathic than those two, has already discovered this in Felix and Sizemore.) I also wish that they would complicate their theory of the human persona. They're presenting it as simple drives couched in a lot of improvisation, and founded or hinged on certain major key decision points. But in real life, we're formed by the millions of little decisions we're making all the time, every day -- so that when we're faced with those big breaking points, our personalities are already shaped in such a way that those decisions are essentially made for us already, by all the choices we made getting there. Those points really are just our discovery of who we have been becoming. Building and even changing ourselves all along the way is a far more complicated thing to explore (or portray on the screen) than simplistic "decision points," so it's also probably hoping too much. But again, Sizemore is a case in point: he does a complete 180, based on all his experiences and mistakes and surprises throughout the season. His final decision point is one he has clearly made -- just not been aware of -- well before he steps out into a hail of bullets.

[@acttanny]

Thanks for that thoughtful response, I love talking about Westworld :D. I know that Westworld may be a Crighton creation, and that this iteration shares little with it's predecessor, but from the Crighton I've read, he likes to introduce a technological topic to sort of explore something that it more abstract. I remember being young and reading Jurassic Park (the novel) and learning more about Chaos theory than dinosaurs. Maybe Westworld feels like its hinting at social struggles and hierarchies because so much of it has to do with revolution in general. Maybe, its the abstraction that is being explored? Even some of the narratives in the park incorporate it. I felt it was more heavily implied in Raj World episode. Yeah, and Ford, although he was smart, he didn't completely understand people well. Just their darker sides. The whole first season he seems perplex by Arnold and his motives (another example of a sort "suicide"). I'm not sold on this idea that humans are deceptively simple like Bot-Logan explains or that Ford claims. I'm glad someone else out there agrees with me. I think your point about who we are becoming is a good one. Change is possible. I mean we as humans are still a miserable lot, but the capability to be free from our code is there. The guests and most of the people that worked at Westworld always seemed more inhuman than the hosts. I've heard that the creators were influenced by the way we experience video games, but there are people that spend hours building stuff, exploring, looking for genuine connections. Out of the four million people that went to Westworld not one ever wanted to live out his /her fantasy of being a train conductor, cow poke, or salon owner? Was it all about survival? I mean look at how far people go to cosplay or play D & D. Sure there is probably a significant group of people that would be low-lifes, but I think a group of people would use Westworld not to find themselves" like William explains, but rather to be something that they are not. Like Delores says "that which is real is irreplaceable" I don't think she's truly seen real humans or the human condition. She's lived in a controlled environment where everything can be duplicated or replaced. It'll be interesting to see what her goals and motivations are.

[@TimMFWolfe]

Yep, reading Jurassic Park as a teenager was a great lesson to me too, in the uses of a story to do much more than entertain. As for social critique, your mention of Raj World does give me hope that they might venture in that direction -- our glimpse of that park confirmed everything we might have been suspecting that the whole park system was primarily a colonial white male fantasy playground. That can't have been wholly accidental. Story-wise, I get the point of making the hosts seem more human(e) than the guests/employees, since it made us instinctively root for them. But I agree that it's another philosophical flaw to assume that such an artificial system would reveal someone's "true" self, when everyone goes in knowing it's only a game with no consequences to themselves or the hosts. People don't show you "themselves" when they play video games -- one's preferred form of escapism maybe says something about them, but it's still escapism. It's not who you are in real life. Probably one of my favorite things this season was that thesis statement, right out of the gate: "that which is real is irreplaceable." Each main character loses someone close to them in the season, to profound result. And now that we've established that even Dolores can change, I do hope her contact with the real world proves more confusing and transformative than she expects. Besides, we do need some more sympathetic human characters to root for, having lost Emily and Elsie. Someone in Dolores' orbit -- say, someone who she starts out intending only to manipulate or use, before realizing they deserve better, who makes her reconsider her basic assumptions about humanity as a whole -- would be awesome. A reverse Sizemore!

[@TimMFWolfe]

(I play D&D btw, and it's true you can get people who are just awful, basically season 1 Logan. But most people are tentative at first, curious, then just love exploring the outer limits of their imaginations. What if the monsters just need some sartorial tutoring? What if I seduce the villain instead of fighting him? What if my character was just really obsessed with political theory instead of treasure? These are the people that make the game really worth playing, especially when they just start playing off each other and the story ends up going absurd and wonderful places nobody could have anticipated. ...But I digress.)

[@Bamgeutcutiepie]

the most beautifully emotional moment of the entire season 2? for me, it was Mr Delos turning away from Logan. Ben's acting in that scene broke my heart. so desperate for help, and his father is just ice cold. that was the only scene in the finale i cried in. it was so brilliant!

[@chrissy4144]

I agree I thought Ben's acting was really good and I had been wondering what really happened to him since Season 1 and that was definitely not what I expected. I still don"t fully understand what happened to him is he a host or just an A.I in the system? And what happened after the Forge was flooded? Logan's story is so short and mysterious to me. I hope he isn't completely gone.

[@rrutledge4895]

I know some people get frustrated by the timelines in this show but I really appreciate them. There isn't many shows that i'll sit down and watch more than once but with westworld everytime I watch it again it feels fresh because I notice things that I didn't before.

[@odilovonsteinitz9205]

*Great hypothesis, both logical and plausible!* Westworld also seems to deal with the difference of "immortal" vs. "eternal". The eternal souls of the humans want physical immortality, while the physically immortal AI machine copies want an eternal soul to go with it. *What a delicious irony!* I can't wait for season 3.

[@josephmora5230]

4:11 Cool Fact: Arnold's House is really the"Jaws House," the iconic John Sowden House that looks like a Mayan temple designed by the great Lloyd Wright and this very house that was once the home of Dr. George Hodel, a Los Angeles physician who was a prime suspect in the infamous Black Dahlia murder.

[@danyrose8920]

I love this Show (even if its hella confusing)

[@jackdoyle7453]

Did you even watch the show? Teddy was uploaded to the sublime, his core would be "virgin" and Abernathy had the encryption key for the forge, not the forge's data itself!

[@Studentofgosset]

Abernathy had 35 years of data stored in him, not simply the encryption file.

[@cassandragrindall]

The Hexagons form an INFINITY symbol. Because Delos is searching for everlasting life...in a host body.

[@CodenameDoubleL7]

Dolores made the Emily host and has now left William in his own hell.

[@strongestavenger4444]

That makes sense. Wow.

[@ziadgaser2012]

That's so true! she said she came across her on the road so definitely took her pearl

[@Pancakes29582]

I think she also said something along the lines of “your punishment must be more severe” too so this makes sense

[@ZillaNation84]

Best and most thorough breakdown of the episode i seen today...great job

[@ScreenCrush]

Thanks Randy.

[@MAC_ABC]

Its absolutely phenomenal & extremely compelling! Thank heavens a show like this exists... with it’s budget, scale & scope; it would've been extremely tempting & frankly much easy to just make Game of Thrones kinda "epic" that’s straight forward & has big action set pieces & cool moments but keeping it simple; & yet Nolan & Joy took the difficult path & made it complex, twisted, philosophical & meaty ... they didn't have to make it this way & huge kudos to them for choosing this difficult path! A great blend of different genres like Westerns, modern SciFi, AI Apocalypse with Samurai action, Native American stories & much more! Absolutely LOVED the series! Hopefully next seasons continue to be as complex & twisted as first 2 have been... I don’t watch Westworld for simple storytelling; go watch CSI or any other millions of shows for that. Keep it Complex & Evocative!

[@billybllionz]

4:48 She left Teddy behind, remember? He's in 'heaven'

[@ScreenCrush]

I still think she has his orb

[@billybllionz]

She left it behind, watch that part again

[@pumezalabise3516]

@@billybllionz Teddy was weak, no woman want a week man

[@chrissy4144]

@@pumezalabise3516 Teddy was gentle, not weak, Dolores became a savage. She became the stereotypical "killer robot", whereas his enlightenment made him more humane. That doesn't mean he was weak, he just wasn't cruel.

[@manvysings]

@@pumezalabise3516 HEYYY teddy was one of my favourites 😭

[@1olddoggie]

OMG, this is BRILLIANT! Just discovered you! Thank. I was a religious studies major many years ago. How could I have missed these references and allusions?

[@bluearcher1559]

I love the show but I was disappointed when Delores came back to life. It feels like the writers are just cheating.

[@chrissy4144]

BlueArcher 15 True but if they didn’t there’d be no reason to continue the story

[@lijahmadeitfoo5449]

you do realise theyre robots that have brains you could just put into another body right ? your logic makes no sense

[@memo134]

She rebuilt her body.

[@LandRunProductions]

You just earned a like and sub purely for the Digital Pictures audio reference. Unknown editor, you are loved.

[@TheRedMiners]

I was trying to figure out which events from earlier episodes happened when. So in the end of episode 1 they find all the hosts are clustered together, dead in the water. Episode 10 explains this happened because all the hosts went to the "door" to the valley beyond and their bodys fell down when they entered the valley and others killed each other because of clementine. The water then started to rise from the place they stored the "human minds". What i do not understand though is that the humans in episode 1 were surprised that there was water there and that all the hosts were in the water but those same humans sent clementine to cause the massacre at the door to the valley beyond right? and after the massacre that clementine caused, Hale even said something about the water rising from the place they stored the human minds. So in episode 1 they should have known all the hosts would be there dead in the water right? Im confused, because it seems like some parts of episode 1 must have been after that massacre at the valley but things like this contradict that.

[@Softlee29]

Did anyone else get the vibe that Stubbs knew that Hale was Delores and/or a host? The fact that he let her pass because once she was out of the park she wasn’t his responsibility and he’s all for someone giving Delos hell given what he’s seen in the park

[@CutePeanut83]

Lee Brown I totally think he knew.

[@renx81]

He certainly implied that he was aware of her being an impostor, otherwise his speech to her would make no sense. As for him knowing she was Dolores, that part was unclear.

[@benkamakorewa5814]

Looks like she's out to give more than Delos hell... #worldAnnihilation

[@parisakalantari9397]

the whole 2 series revolved around this theory: if A.I one day could question human existence, the only possible solution as a defence of humans is another A.I

[@needs_more_dakka5774]

what does THAT mean

[@hisokamorow6709]

@@needs_more_dakka5774 An AI as the way we think they may work would be superior in every aspect to the human mind, if said AI could turn against us, the only logical defense could be to build another AI but try to convince/build it to defend us.

[@mattd923]

Great video. Couple of quibbles: 1. I don't think Bernard is one of the pearls that Delores leaves with. When she talks to him in the last scene, she says that she "built him before, so she could do it again." Implying that she re-constructed his consciousness rather than just pulling his control unit and putting it into a new body. 2. When she sends the hosts off to 'heaven' she says that there is no bridge between their worlds, stating that she won't be able to bring them back.

[@edgarscirulis1129]

The most mindblowing show after Fringe

[@ScreenCrush]

Such an underrated show. Would love to make a video essay about it.

[@DrunkInPublic]

I love you

[@JonathanVachon777]

I never saw that interpretation. The bible reference makes me see it very differently. Best explanation i saw so far

[@mr.happyhamad8573]

This show should reduce on timeline jump, sometimes you cant tell difference between past and present.

[@Attagirlashley]

Mr. happy Hamad, is this...now? 🙃

[@chrissy4144]

Yeah I was super confused until I realized they had awakened one of Bernard's clones and their clones were likely connected allowing them to access each other's memories. Then the time jumps started making sense.

[@callummcd3983]

Such in-depth, much wow. Seen a few other "explanation" videos and they just go round in circles with no real research.

[@gypsumfantastic23]

Fool me once (Lost), shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me (Westworld)

[@Ryan-by8ui]

Bingo. Only difference was I cared about the characters in Lost quite a bit.

[@renx81]

Lost, like most stories, was centered around characters. Westworld, however, is more philosophical in nature.

[@mamabear3217]

gypsumfantastic23 my thoughts exactly

[@arbitraryname7273]

Luckily the same dipshits who did Lost and Once Upon A Time aren't associated with this show. Nonlinear storytelling is difficult for competent writers, but at least Kitsis and Horowitz don't have their shitstained little hands in HBO's cookiejar.

[@optimalbrand]

@@arbitraryname7273 JJ Abrams? Maximum idiot, and his interference probably messed up season 2

[@Sesh777]

Thank you. i watched at least six other 10+ minute episodes that didn't even mention that one of the spheres Dolores took from the island were Teddy when that was obviously the most obvious.

[@dubi24]

What a fantastic season!! I have been analyzing it to death and praise the ultra complex writing, especially in how it all ended. I enjoyed this season MUCH more than the first. A truly beautiful show, one that continues to define human purpose of existence, much like The Leftovers (an underrated but equally brilliant show!!). However, one MAJOR thing I hated in this season was Charlotte Hale. The actress does not do the role justice, she sounds like she has a cold all season long. And of all the characters Dolores could have embodied, why her...? I mean, I know WHY, but I'm still bothered by it. In a show of superb casting and acting, Charlotte's role failed to bring any value or believability (I think she did much better in Season 1, to her credit). It doesn't take away from the overall brilliance of Westworld. Great video explaining some of the biblical references and explaining post-credits scene, as well as the bull opening sequence tie-in (mind: BLOWN). Honestly, I would end the show on a high note and not dabble in a Season 3. Maybe a spin-off?

[@mickguadagnoli8779]

This is 4 year old comment..but I recently started the show and finished season 2 and I am now on episode 3 of season 3. And I concur greatly. I have an opinion on why they casted her but I'll keep that to myself lol. Suffice to say though her role was an important one so it's unfortunate it didn't work out. Otherwise it's a fantastic show outside of a few blunders.

[@asimsalman3948]

I believe there's more to the post-credits scene and have a theory of my own. When Emily takes William away from Akecheta in episode 8, Akecheta tells her that he wants william to hurt, to which she replies that they both want the same thing and that hers will be much more worse. I believe the future Emily is a copy of her memories from the forge and the loop in the post-credits scene is actually the hell she wanted William to be in, the kind of punishment she told Akecheta about.. "much, much worse". I believe there can't be anything worse for William than that and that's what that entire scene hinted about. I'd love to see someone else's take on this! You gave the best explanation so far by the way.. I was desperately looking for someone to elaborate those biblical references that I picked up along the way but didn't really know what they meant. Thankyou for the wonderfully thorough breakdown. I subscribed instantly!

[@ZeroTolerence0]

I think William could’ve possibly already died from his wounds after Emily took him from Akecheta. Or abandoned and later found clinging to life after being flooded away. Only to later die soon after. Then using what she learned about William from his profile, created a host William. That’s why William didn’t have much of a role anymore after killing Emily. He was faced with only tests, to determine his fidelity. The first being if he is willing to kill himself due to guilt. The second to test his sanity by him cutting himself up to see whether he’s human or a host. And the third is his integrity, to see if he’ll betray Delores, his true love, after being spared by her. Because if you watch, you’ll see that Delores has the wounds from the confederal fight, but not the gun shot wounds she gets from William in The Forge world. After Delores and Bernard plugs into it.

[@cyndikarp6873]

Really great vid👍🏻👍🏻

[@leighgarnettbooks7242]

Enjoyed your summary. I think some of it is memories of Dolores’ first uprising. Perhaps Delos engineered this as a way to seize power from William and get rid of and/or replace certain staff and board members. After all.... see how easy it is to create new incarnations and get rid of their human bodies. There were certainly multiple versions of Bernard in circulation. Felix, Lee Sizemore, Elsie, Maeve, Armistice, Akecheta and Hector found the best of themselves; William, Charlotte, Strand and others will never be better than they are. Maeve’s last words will live in fandom beside Roy Batty’s!! This show has so much depth. “Westworld” asks very thought-provoking questions that our society may well be called to answer: what is the nature of “life”, at what point -and if ever -might machine become as mankind? Should it ever? If so, when/if/should they be treated as such? This show is a reminder of how much I effin’ hate people. I have far more sympathy for the hosts. They are far more human than the homosapiens in their world. Go, Dolores!!!

[@Daeduluus]

Stubbs is definitely a host

[@duVallonFecit]

Don't forget the symbolism of the bulls stampede. In first season the labyrinth was a constant reference, Dolores, Maeve, William, Bernard... I think this resembles the minotaure and the meaning is that the beast has broken the labyrinth and now is free. Also William final postcredit scene is like Sisyphus torment, his daughter kept her promise to Kiksuya, making Will suffer worse than death. Yes, in the last chapter there are a lot of iconographical references to Bible, but all the season is a constant paralelism with ancient greek myths :)

[@paradoxward2533]

this was outstanding and VERY helpful. Westworld is quite an artistic achievement.

[@LoftlyRecordsSpoilers]

I think the show gets too intellectual for some. Embodying details that are very in-depth but fly over a great many peoples heads. This show could easily be a prequel to The Matrix or even how Sky-net becomes sentient before Terminator. The Valley Beyond is the Matrix, Delores is the robot that leads the charge to found 01, and eventually the hosts evolve out of human form. Eventually fighting a terrible war with humanity. Either way, the show is fixing to overall conclusion in the Robot Apocalypse, the replacement of humans, with digital copies programmed to serve Dolores. With Bernard's character serving as the default Optimus Prime (sorry for the nerdiness) aka good robot leader on humanities side to balance the scales. If anything The Man In Black scene post credits is indicative that somewhere along the lines, after the James Delos failure, that someone perfected human copying in recreating an identical copy of William. Potentially, even displaying, that William was switched into a host awhile back in the series. As tt makes sense, especially with the Ford/William bar scene, before William takes his intoxicated wife home. I can't wait for S3, I understand what the show is, but I find a great many friends lost in what is going on plot. I guess if this show proves anything is that people love mindless TV content over very authentic, in-depth, cerebral shows such as West World.

[@ScreenCrush]

Don’t apologize for the nerdiness. Great breakdown, I couldn’t agree more.

[@cmorellato]

Great comment, Michael! Didn't think that about William's story. Nice.

[@megustastuff]

You're insight is on point but insulting other people's intelligence while touting your own is not cool. I mean, you spelt "Dolores" wrong dude. Why can't you share your insights without having to show how smart you are? We're all friends here.

[@LoftlyRecordsSpoilers]

@Gordy Anson Did I misspell Dolores? lol (yes, yes I did but I edited it) Also, my attempt was not to insult people's intellect/intelligence whatsoever. I'm no Einstein, and yes I agree we are all friends here, in fact I'm pretty sure we would get a long in real life as we read/ comment on the same types of videos :) The noted comment was more to display that the show was too 'intellectual' meaning that the writers tend to reference various high-brow literary works common audiences may not be familiar with. You know the kind of books, philosophy, scientific theories, and obscure literature that even people who studied English Literature/ Philosophy have a hard time understanding. Its not a problem but the issue is when you are trying to convey a story to a mass audience you can alienate a lot of people from understanding the plot as a whole by going to in-depth. Which is something I've noticed, more and more, with Ridley Scotts works recently, especially with Alien: Covenant. With the opposite being the Michael Bay approach, which is throwing together poorly placed dialogue, and inserting explosions to distract the audience from how bad the plot of the story is. Either way, this a great show, I want this show to go at least 5 seasons, and I want to see the full narrative flush out. It's so disappointing, getting into a show, and then never see its full potential.

[@LoftlyRecordsSpoilers]

@Cainã Morellato de Almeida - Thank you I appreciate the feedback :)

[@vicvega1008]

An excellent review. A show that needs cliff notes. They should do a talking dead like discussion show after every one of these. A zombie show doesn't need a discussion show, this one does.

[@tysam5867]

I love the first two seasons but I don't want to see more of the park. I want to see Dolores and Charlotte in the actual human world. i liked the confusing timelines in the first season but the second season was a bit too much. I know it represents the scrambled minds of the host trying to piece together little pieces of information but I want to focus on Dolores story as she doesn't have a scrambled mind any more

[@enjoiandrew69]

People compare this show to lost like its a bad thing. That's my favorite damn show. Keep the twists coming, make me question everything I know about the story

[@thetruth5350]

Such a great damn show

[@The_RedVIII]

The show needs more humans that are alive by now. So yeah, I hope Stubbs isn't a host.

[@ScreenCrush]

Like I said, I think we'll see a decades time jump, and that's why they killed off most of the actors.

[@maryfontenelle8633]

I agree, some say maybe a hundred years have pass according to the producers. Being a host they are immortal, therefore even with time jumps they can use the same actors. I believe Stubbs is a host as in season 1, he was in both timelines, if he was human he should look older.

[@evie8078]

I agree,now they are turning now everyone to host or whatever so if they die they can show up again. I need live humans in this show.

[@MichaSennin]

I dont even believe that "humans" are alive in the Westworld cosmos. Humanity is most likely gone, extinguished at this point.

[@marcelalves6196]

Stubbs is a host. www.thewrap.com/westworld-finale-stubbs-host-hale-luke-hemsworth/ But maybe, in future seasons, humans prove that the robots didn't really understand the complete picture... they just thought they did.

[@dongorham2893]

I love the comparison of the parting of the red sea to the valley beyond. Yul Brenner who was the original man in black played Pharoah in the Ten Commandments and Ed Harris plays a version of The Man In Black now. Meta!

[@autumnlover5784]

Agree! I like some twists and reveals and UNDERSTAND they have to leave parts open to keep the show going ... but too much is too much!!!! ( About the multiple time jumps and confusing timelines getting “bloody annoying” ) !!

[@maricruzgarcia8337]

Clementine as an apocalipse character, I got that reference from the beginning, also the Gate as the Gate to Paradise

[@theostragonidis7548]

Disappointing season finale. The man in black story didn't deliver the expected emotional punch. The portal to "Eden" part was pretty cheesy. Bringing back to life Dolores, Bernard and as well as implying that Teddy will be back, as well as Maeve weakens the dramatic effect. Hosts can be brought back to life, I get it. But killing them off in an emotional moment and bringing them back to life just so that you can repeat the process is not dramatic anymore.

[@ScreenCrush]

Yeah MIB was underserved. Still don’t know Ford’s game, even if it was real

[@evie8078]

Plus the Cradle is gone. How they are going back?

[@ziranyang2176]

cradle is backup..they still have their "brain" inside their body... just how much did u even understand the show??

[@evie8078]

ziran yang yeah,well it's confusing show.Teddy's backup is gone and he's dead so how is he gonna be alive,please explain to me cause I don't get it?

[@theostragonidis7548]

Dolores took out his brain/perl and transferred the information to this new "Eden". Supposedly the whole "Eden" simulation was also transferred to another undisclosed location. But Teddy's perl presumambly remains in Dolores's bag, so she can print him out again. The cheese is real at that point though. If MIB is supposed to be a host, then the killed Emily could've also been a host. They weren't recognized as hosts by the other hosts, yet the last scene suggests William is a host. So who's to say the Emily in the post-credits scene is a host? There are too many twists for the show's own good.

[@Zeverinsen]

It's like someone who watched Lost, got really aggravated by the confusion that didn't connect well enough, and made their own confusing show that actually made some sense after a while. To this day I still don't know what Lost was really about.

[@Dorak74]

not teddy

[@GalvakzaMusic]

As many in the comments have suggested, the symbol may represent infinity. And if that is the case, it should be noted that an image depicting infinity appears again at Arnold's house. Seen in the video at 4:18 is a framed picture depicting a hand drawing another hand which is drawing the initial one, in an infinite loop of sorts.

[@ScreenCrush]

Nice spot, eagle eye!

[@GalvakzaMusic]

:D

[@anniedowns]

WOW, great catch! and great overview Screen Crush! I really like your ability to draw the biblical allegories and comparisons (some were obvious, but i missed a lot of that!) I didn't catch that image as different, makes me want to go back and try to find more of these easter eggs..

[@robertonome2448]

Ugh I can't stand those reviewers who are trash talking westworld s2 - without any backbones to their arguments whatsoever, with just points like: "the series is too confusing", "characters didn't grow" (despite most of them showing significant signs of change in their personalities and ideologies), the classic "ending didnt make sense cuz im too lazy to pay attention to detail" and so on... Can't take any of those douchebags (the same ones who most likely have given a 10/10 to generic movies like avengers infinity war) seriously anymore. Too much pretentious criticism out there

[@bjornironside6125]

Roberto Nome exactly, i need good reviewers to explain to my also dumb head

[@nicuhosu]

Haha, if you were able to pay attention to details, you'd realise how nothing makes sense!

[@robertonome2448]

+Sebastion Hosu This. But exactly in reverse.

[@cameronhodgetts920]

I don't know why everyone dislikes the end of season 2. I thought it was a really fitting payoff to two seasons of struggle. When Bernard finally freed the hosts and Dolores finally escaped, I nearly cried.

[@KING090589]

The way Stubbs was talking made me think that not only was he a host but that he was Maeve (like Dolores was Hale). I’m probably reading too much into it though lol

[@codyhuntfilms]

hmm I wonder, but that would require either new Maeve/Stubbs OR Bernard kill Stubbs. I doubt either had the capacity or desire to do so. The main reason Bernard makes Dolores/Hale kill real Hale is because Hale killed Elsie. It just doesn't seem like Bernard had anything against Stubbs to allow that happen.

[@Eudomac99]

I thought that too, also at the end of season 1 he gets captured by ghost nation who we know were trying to gather hosts to take to the "new world". They knew he was a host.

[@salmonfish1145]

KING090589 Nahh thats so bullshit, there's no evidence to suggest this. In a logical stand point, there's no point to put Maeve into Stubbs. Stubby is stubby and thats it. Now if you are trying to say that Stubb also has the ability to control other hosts like Maeve, then maybe.

[@anniedowns]

YES!!! Evan McDonald, if you go back to the scene of him being captured, you see that it looks like it might have been on purpose. I think he was sent to the Ghost nation by Ford to help the get to the Valley Beyond. Plus I like someone's theory about Ake being first generation and not having the same 'reverie upgrade as the other hosts (in fact, you don't often see any of the ghost nation in the underground Mesa except when Ake goes there on purpose to find his lost love)...he could wake himself up much like Maeve so perhaps Ford gave him the abilities and knowledge "opened his consciousness" to Bring host to the Valley. I think when they do show Stubbs again, captured by the Ghost nation it is too easy for him and Emily to get away, he tells Emily that they (the Ghost nation) are only killing the host so they are safe. But really he means they are only killing humans not hosts which makes Emily take off - a subtle clue that that Emily is a Host??

[@anniedowns]

But I do agree with Salmon fish that Stubbs is Stubbs, Maeve and the actor that plays her are too important to the story to let her go and it seems pretty obvious at the end that Felix and Sylvester are going to get her back online with all her powers. I think Stubbs was created by Ford a long time ago and given superior powers similar to Maeve... BTW Stubbs is definitely a host - it was confirmed by Lisa Joy, but I would also say pretty obvious by his last conversation with Halores.

[@Chshort610]

Great, great review! Love the breakdown.

[@Michael-je7rq]

How can every human try to survive when people kill them selves every day

[@ziranyang2176]

collectively... natural selection is part of that....and... also..this is a show .... chill the hell out

[@OlPalJoe]

jeff tuun I see see your point, but exceptions to the rule Don't necessarily negate the rule and all that

[@Michael-je7rq]

Joseph Mavero it’s just that humans are the only animals that kill the them selves

[@OlPalJoe]

That's true, but the majority of us don't because of that drive for survival. If we didn't have that, then there'd be a lot more suicides than there are now.

[@yseson_]

High birth rate, in the US the birth rate is literally twice that death rate per day, there are roughly 120 suicides per day in the states there are 15,000 births per day globally, with infant mortality rates dropping (and despite how it seems) so has the level of violence globally decreased, concurrently mass education has increased. It's scary to think that this is the most peaceful time in all of human history (especially considering how shitty things may seem) but with the saturation of information comes awareness of how violent we are, in addendum how violent we have been in our past thus how easy it would be to slip back into mass bloodshed, thusly our anxiety now comes from our fear of losing even this small "peace" and this anxiety is shown in our love of future dystopian parables such as zombie apocalypse and robot rebellions. Any hope for humanity is that the conscience state which we have achieved and are continuing to explore (I have a theory that conscienceness is a plane of perception that is accessed and independent of us) proves to be just as necessary and precious tool for survival as communication, violence and flight.

[@clayj2761]

THANK GOD FOR SEASON 3. SEASON 2 WAS BRILLIANT. THE WHOLE SHOW I FELT AND UNDERSTOOD HOW ARNOLD FELT. I LOVE HOW THEY HAD YOU WATCH THE SHOW FROM A BOTS POV. BRILLIANT

[@Brandonhayhew]

the twist for William seems unnecessary.

[@willisworn]

The Passenger is a fairly well known film, directed by Antonioni and starring Nicholson. In the pivotal scene, the girl asks him "what are you running from" and he tells her to turn around (to see the road behind them). I would suggest that this means the past and it's hard to think that the title of WW2.10 doesn't allude to that.

[@gamewhoringb7853]

Let's all smoke cannabis please.

[@panterasux22]

I can't smoke :( but I'm about to eat some :D

[@MrK-tb9qi]

Not after this episode. I'd go made with paranoia of whether im a host or not

[@iamthebatman6557]

Actually one of those pearls IS NOT teddy, teddys pearl was placed on the thing and sent his being into the place beyond.

[@BynumDrums]

This review is very "Jesus-ee". I guess that's the great thing about WW...it can mean different things to different people and still manage to be pretty great.

[@namenloss730]

No I think the show is very deliberately using a lot of religious imagery and references as well as philosophical because the topics they approach can very easily cross the line from one to another. The fact it would be Christian religion and references is not surprising at all either since the creators of the show are westerners and western culture has inherited a lot culturally from Christianity

[@renx81]

Religious imagery is definitely intended in this show.

[@phazon25811]

One name: Nathan Crowley. Funny how his name is flashed for about 1 second during the credits...

[@hellohogo]

Appropriate imagery so that maybe we can question the nature of our own reality. It’s happened before, it will happen again.

[@tressinairaia1410]

This show is amazing, there are so many connotations the critique is a rabbit hole,

[@nathanrowalnd3375]

First up, one of the best videos explaining this! A load of other are crap! I loved how you explored the biblical references as well. 1. Apparently, Lisa Joy confirmed Stubbs is a host, but I haven't seen it yet. 2. The Chalores thing means that Charlotte has been Delores the entire season (explains why she became such a bitch and why Delores didn't kill Charlotte with the home cutter when she had the chance). But yea really liked this vid, great work!

[@anniedowns]

Nathan Rowland, I thought the same thing re: Hale being Delores the entire season but it seems more true that she only became Delores after she killed Elsie...And then therefore, you can watch for her to be Delores AFTER Elsie is gone. Which means she is still Hale in the Battle of the Forge scene, perhaps?!

[@renx81]

She was Dolores only in the "two weeks later" timeline, after Strand arrived with the Delos team. In everything leading up to it (including the scene in the Mesa where Dolores almost cut her with the power saw) she was still Hale.

[@Horst1211]

Anyone remember The Dark Tower book series by Stephen King? It reminded me a lot in this episode, especially Williams Story Arc. William lost a few fingers like Roland in Dark Tower(who was also a Gunslinger) did and in the end(obviously spoiler for dark tower), when Roland finally after 7 books reaches the tower, he realizes, that it was not the first time he got to the tower and that he has to repeat himself for eternity. Thats not a coincidence.

[@brightgarinson3099]

Seems like more and more conditioning from this show to normalize human extinction.

[@BRACKMETAW]

lmfao

[@brightgarinson3099]

BRACKMETAW I guess that's comical...

[@alanpennie8013]

Bright Garinson Exterminate the humans. Save the world

[@auntvesuvi3872]

Thanks, Ryan! 😊

[@hermanspaerman3490]

The Merovingian was right.

[@pumpuppthevolume]

Cypher was right :P

[@ruthruthie2931]

Google Merovingian blood lines

[@failogy]

choice is illusion

[@ReneeStevens98]

Best analysis I've seen! ✌❤😊

[@qwertyuiopaaaaaaa7]

A complex show isn’t necessarily a good show. It is tiring to keep track of multiple timelines for so many characters and the time jumps serve no narrative purpose other than to confuse the audience, many episodes are simply boring, a lot of dialogue is really heavy handed, the philosophy of the show is contrived, there are ridiculous plot points like scanner hats, the plot detours for a few useless Samurai World episodes that don’t tie in to the main story, and there are no characters that are likable or have enough agency to root for (except maybe Maeve). All this leads me to think that the writers disrespect their audience. 2/10, 2 stars for the great Native American episode and no stars for anything else. Awful, awful bastardization of a great season one.

[@nicuhosu]

Someone who sees through the smoke and mirrors! I basically just watched this season to the end only to be entertained by the Perston Jacobs parody review. The Native American episode was the only one with any real structure or weight to it, I agree. I mean, it was also a lot of retconing going on, but at least it felt like an actual story.

[@gunnyo50]

You really need a PhD to really understand this show. But that's a good thing as it creates more boundless storylines to continue the show going forwards. The complexity is just mind boggling. I'm just thinking to myself the creators spent many boggling hours coming up with these storylines and concepts. I expect the third season to be released in 2020.

[@nicuhosu]

I disagree. This mind-boggling complexity is an illusion cast by the needlessly convoluted structure of the story. And why is it so convoluted? I suspect simply because the writers had no idea where they were going with the story and just figured it out after a few episodes. There really is no point to why Dolores was killing hosts. She could have just looked for "her father" and went to the Forge. Teddy's body wasn't in the era that would have flooded. The MiB getting shot was pointless, he could have just stayed with Emily and had the same arc. Everyone keeps bumping into each other in that huge park when the plot demands it, but only the "right" characters, of course. Don't even get me started on the fact that whoever built the Forge (William?), had a giant electromagnetic "portal" built to upload hosts? Why?! Oh, and all the hosts going to the Promised Land / Valley Beyond... they were only the hosts of Westworld, what about all the hosts in the other parks? No one cared about their wellbeing? Oh, and at that moment when Bernard was saying that he is the "last host" after the host massacre and Dolores' death... that clearly isn't true, because when Bernard wakes up with amnesia in episode one, on that beach, the human soldiers are executing hosts who, apparently, never joined the pilgrimage to the Valley Beyond. So, why were the railroad workers (ep 2 or 3) even killing hosts just to get a train to the Valley Beyond? It seems like those scenes got written and filmed and then the writers didn't know how to use them anymore so they just hoped we'd forget about them. I mean, I could point out glaring flaws with this season all night, but I need to get back to my other stuff :D

[@briannaleigh7416]

They don't write it that way to confuse you for no reason or because they didn't know where they were going with the plot. They shot the series that way because it was done from Bernard's perspective. He says in the finale that he intentionally scrambled the order of his memories to throw Delos off from finding out about the decision he made until the very end lol. Same way for season one, it was shot to illustrate Dolores' confusion with her memories' timeline as she comes to sentience 😝

[@nicuhosu]

Yeah, that still doesn't explain Dolores' pointless first 4 episodes. And not everything was from Bernard's perspective. Maeve's story, just to name one example, had nothing to do with Bernard scrambling his memories. So, you have no point.

[@sumkin5]

*A bit of Matrix here. During the season I was comparing Mave with Neo, yet I no longer reserve this role neither for her nor for Beranard but the Matrix analogy persists. Mr. Smith = Dolores imho. *Hexagon reminded me personally of Ouroboros backed up by the notion of Nietzsche of Eternal return (Wiki:" philosophy of pre-determinism in that people are predestined to continue repeating the same events over and over again."), which is one of the show's messages "we have no free will" e.g. Delos or William. *A bit more of Matrix analogy, last scene and the value beyond is so similar with the least scenes of Matrix even the color grading is so "heavenly". *In addition to that, it also resembled Lost with its purgatory and the last test before letting the "good" ones pass further, even the hexagon.

[@nimkal]

Great. Stupid biblical references from a science fiction tv show. Let's make it bitter, why not.

[@anatgilenson3982]

Notice that at 40:23 when Dolors is in the library with Bernard, she reads "Karl Strand" who was Head of Operations at Delos and might have even had a bigger role. Seems like your theory of Dolores trying to clone leaders of the world is true.

[@edgarscirulis1129]

Why so many say that Season 2 is worse than the first one!? I think this one was even better..

[@ScreenCrush]

Me too Edgar. So far it’s just us.

[@maryfontenelle8633]

I loved season 2

[@cmorellato]

Then we're four. Can't wait to go deeper on Season 3 :)

[@GhostFan-ev4di]

Because they are a bunch of fucking haters,who don't understand what a good show is.

[@vhampyre01]

Haters who obviously don't mind wasting their own time talking about a show that they supposedly hate.

[@anniedowns]

GREAT REVIEW! Thank you. I am going to go back and look for those symbols and some of the allegorical comparisons that you brought up - very cool. One of my questions is, the 'Kill Shot' for Hosts in Westward. is the shot to the head...which doesn't explain why Maeve is dead, she didn't get shot in the head and we have seem her come back countless times with 'gut shots' even shots to the heart, yet, in the finale,.she looked pretty darn dead (I think on purpose as a clue) in the closing scene...instead of the usual same skin color, same look on their face etc when they 'die' and are brought back from a deep and dreamless slumber, she looked way different..dead dead!! Plus we know she has The Ford given 'God-Conscious ' and she has been able to wake herself up on her own since Season 1...my guess...Delores took her Britta CPU out of her head to bring her to the 'real world'. That long look Halores gives her at the end seems like a hint. Just speculation of course. What about Angela?? Is her CPU thing in Halores bag? We know she was blown to bits, but perhaps that was a copy of her? Teddy, is most definitely NOT in the bag IMO. I think those in the bag are the following: Delores back-up, Abernathy (father) Bernard, Angela, Maeve and/or possibly Charlotte Hale as someone mentioned below, and possibly Logan and/or William, and/or James Delos...

[@PJsFirstChannel]

A disappointing second season. Episode 8 was good.

[@ScreenCrush]

That's your Emmy nominee for sure.

[@Mzwambedu]

you quite basic

[@benjaminmartin2922]

I get what they intended to do but the storytelling and the way they switched from one timeline to another wasn't well driven at all :/ / lots of confusion and people disappearing and reappearing like magic on the other side of the park 5min later, also repetitive low-budget action scenes; looks like the filming was really chaotic the same ideas and actors with a great director would have made a masterpiece !

[@Ghaffar_KH]

Ikr, episodes 4,8, and 9 were great. The rest was good but the finale wasn't anywhere near as good as season 1's

[@thinkingoutloud3757]

Interesting how people put the show down for being "confusing" when I'm not confused at all, except the very end post-credits scene which isn't really confusing, just vague because they just introduced a new timeline and nothing's really explained or shown yet.

[@mosespray4510]

Although you make quite a few interesting points, I think you've also drawn some conclusions that are not supported by the source material. I thought it was pretty clear that Bernard locked Delores out of the host paradise, and that Teddy is there to stay, without her. Also, whoever is in Charlotte Hale's body at Bernard's home is no longer Delores, since Delores has rebuilt her own body. Most likely, Hale's host body is now inhabited by one of the pearls brought home in her purse. Also, Felix is a virtuous character, having always treated the hosts with dignity. Sylvester, not so much.

[@qwertyuiopaaaaaaa7]

West World Season 2 was the worst tv media I’ve ever watched. It so disrespects it’s audience with faux philosophy and faux intellectual storytelling.

[@quantumwitcher9376]

Cool 👍👍👍

[@zenithquasar9623]

Luckily Westworld Season 2 was pretty good.

[@kractass]

Stupid people shouldn't watch Westworld.

[@martos60]

Somebody felt stupid and got angry!

[@jakkonexus1166]

Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pojHlWmVj92LbsU

[@themagicman6965]

The Hexagon sign was also seen in s2 e10 when Dolores graps one of the books out of that library. One book had that sign on his side engraved.

[@ashtonboone7790]

In my opinion, Season 3 COULD consist of the following: 1) Dolores and Maeve will prepare their armies as programmed by Arnold and Ford respectively for the human-host war! 2) Benard may potentially become a messiah of the human-host war, given that his core drives lead him to preserve the survival of both races by any means necessary! 3) The Man in Black may potentially become Benard's polar opposite, an antichrist of the human-host war who seeks to undermine both races in order to preserve the balance of choice! 4) Stubbs is The Narrative itself, Dr. Ford's hidden overseer of the story who discretely ensures that all of the hosts are faithful to their roles inside Westworld (even those who must "leave"). Thoughts?

[@jacowboy]

Well Bernard was carrying Ford's pearl (or whatever pearl he had been carrying around), Dolores was carrying Teddy & Abernathy's pearl and both B. and D. had pearls in their heads, so Halelores walked out with those 5 pearls I reckon, since none else was there.

[@drewrobinson1118]

good video man!!

[@DanielS2001]

For the Futureworld plot line, we've gotten that throughout Season2 (including Samuari). The Season Finale, however, hints at a possible similar storyline to the first TV attempt at Westworld: Beyond Westworld, where for the show the man who created the hosts was the one responsible for the hosts attacking the guests and destroying Westworld (sound familiar?), and he sets out to replace people with hosts in some sort of plan of world domination (this seems like what's likely what Dolores has plans to do), while being pursued by someone who tries to stop him (which could be Bernard).

[@andiros9610]

Thank you! That was a great explanation on the ending.

[@Baekstrom]

Dante's Inferno describes Hell as nine concentric circles where the devil is held in chains at the center. Have we seen a symbol anywhere that resembles concentric circles with a person in the center? I think William is Dante, Ford is Virgil, and in the next season we see Williams ascend through purgatory towards redemption and the resurrection of his wife.

[@jupetius]

An insightful analysis. You have a great cultural understanding, I admire your skills and skills of WW writers as well! Thank you.