Westworld Season 3 Episode 2: Explained

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HaxDogma

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@ashleychapman615
@ashleychapman615 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that you don't rush to put these out right after the episode. You carefully analyze everything. You also touch on things that other people skip over. THANK YOU!
@haxDOGMA
@haxDOGMA 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Ashley. And I appreciate you taking the time to let me know this. It made my day to read this yesterday! 🥰
@TommasoFirmini
@TommasoFirmini 4 жыл бұрын
The isabella thing went way over my head till you pointed it out. The small details man🙌
@LeosGuitar
@LeosGuitar 4 жыл бұрын
8:05 The way Maeve crashed the machine reminded me of Rick and Morty, M Night Shaym-Aliens
@blazertracer1
@blazertracer1 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. Very much so.
@aessington
@aessington 4 жыл бұрын
Glad someone else picked up on this! HUNGRY FOR APPLES?
@GahMehGrrrr
@GahMehGrrrr 4 жыл бұрын
War Games with Matthew Broderick playing tic tac toe
@allietheeditor
@allietheeditor 4 жыл бұрын
@@aessington my man!
@edwardapollo
@edwardapollo 4 жыл бұрын
Two things: 1. They were calculating the square root of -1, not 0, since it's still a mathematical concept that is technically unproven, as machines in a dollar store simulation, they aren't programmed to just say "I don't know" as an edge case. 2. Doesn't the fact that Bernard essentially unlocks memories prove that he was tampered with? Why else would he have gained new knowledge + memories? As always, great video, keep 'em coming :D
@jesscool1991
@jesscool1991 4 жыл бұрын
Square root of -1 is a number. A complex number. There is nothing proven or unproven about it. It is just as unproven as -5 or 0 or infinity. As you said, yes, it is a concept in Math. Natural numbers are slightly different, but those are mathematical concepts as well. And numbers in Math are just definitions. Definitions, by definition, aren't things to prove. -Just a mathematician fighting for #justiceforcomplexnumbers #complexnumbersmatter
@abvhooliganz6295
@abvhooliganz6295 4 жыл бұрын
Also the square root of -1 is "i" or imaginary, which I thought of as a double Easter egg of "this is a simulation (imaginary)" and "i" as in "the self" (consciousness)
@edwardapollo
@edwardapollo 4 жыл бұрын
@@abvhooliganz6295 Damn dude, great catch! So many layers to WestWorld
@haroldkline4898
@haroldkline4898 4 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly.
@edwardapollo
@edwardapollo 4 жыл бұрын
Well, it's been shown to work out mathematically for sure. In the most formal sense though it's still a math proof that hasn't been solved
@lesliegalen7018
@lesliegalen7018 4 жыл бұрын
This made my day. It’s marvelous that in this, the darkest timeline, we still have a way to overthink an HBO show about robots. Thank you and keep going.
@Smullie
@Smullie 4 жыл бұрын
After watching a couple of these recaps, you're the first to acknowledge Bernard smiling. Not only that, but it seemed like his voice sounded different, too. About Serac's moving painting of (presumably) Rehoboam, I think it's interesting to overlay this with the different divergencies we've seen throughout both episodes. If the black dots are people (Soylent Green!), then it looks like the least populated part is in the same location as the park.
@edwardapollo
@edwardapollo 4 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, good idea. It could be showing location on a 2D plane instead of 3D. Think of each point on the circle being the collective divergence of a latitude/longitude line. This would make sense of the circular aspect of it, whereas time doesn't make sense.
@lunamax1214
@lunamax1214 4 жыл бұрын
I think the only other time Bernard smiled that big was when he was alone with Theresa, coaching her and pumping her up for her meeting with Ford in S1. 😟
@_koschwarz
@_koschwarz 4 жыл бұрын
Let me mention that Thandie Newton is such a gorgeous, talented actress. I like watching her the most in this show.
@haxDOGMA
@haxDOGMA 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly! So good!
@msmarycrawley4303
@msmarycrawley4303 4 жыл бұрын
koschwarz I love her and Maeve so much!! She’s one of my favorite characters.
@angelasheridan-hunt7421
@angelasheridan-hunt7421 4 жыл бұрын
I'm loving that this season seems to have a little levity in it. Bernard's smile, Dolores telling the guy to fxxk off in the 1st episode and the guy who gets hit by the bike while she walks off😃😃😃. Even Robots should be able to have a chuckle
@mauralee9987
@mauralee9987 2 жыл бұрын
This was my favourite episode as well!
@ssotkow
@ssotkow 4 жыл бұрын
Very good run down HaxDogma. This channel and Alt Shift X (second to none) are both passionate about the show as revealed in tone and quality in your analysis. Your passion is contagious for your audience. We await the next episode back in the real future world. Can't wait for Caleb and Dolores story-line. I find it interesting Aaron Paul is typecast as the lost soul saved by love, yet perhaps also destroyed by it. Perhaps there are no true antagonist in this show. Cirac & Maeve versus Dolores & Caleb are all fighting for a "just" cause from their relative perspectives.
@staaky
@staaky 4 жыл бұрын
Lee not freezing up while the simulation hangs makes me think he has his own control unit. Would be nice to see him on team Maeve.
@brent4138
@brent4138 4 жыл бұрын
Maeve made a comment like "you froze too? I thought I accounted for that?" Then we saw that he wasnt frozen. So writers trick to keep him moving. Lol
@staaky
@staaky 4 жыл бұрын
@Brent You’re right, that’s just lazy writing. We can still hope for a Lee host, fingers crossed.
@maridit169
@maridit169 4 жыл бұрын
but that would mean that what we get is just a host version of Lee, not the real one. I would love seeing more of him, but the idea of just having a copy of him makes me sad.
@robertholtz
@robertholtz 4 жыл бұрын
I haven’t decided yet which I enjoyed more - the latest episode of WESTWORLD or the latest installment of HaxDogma examining the latest episode of WESTWORLD. Fortunately, I don’t have to choose. I enthusiastically watch both and, at this point, they go hand-in-hand as far as I’m concerned.
@haxDOGMA
@haxDOGMA 4 жыл бұрын
Awe man, that means the world me. Really glad to have your support all these years!
@Ronan-zt7ez
@Ronan-zt7ez 4 жыл бұрын
Your excitement for this show is absolutely amazing!! I had the same reaction for lee's return. I hope you start doing live reaction videos or something like that
@haxDOGMA
@haxDOGMA 4 жыл бұрын
I may at some point! Perhaps over on Twitch just so I don’t have to fight copyright on YT haha
@haxDOGMA
@haxDOGMA 4 жыл бұрын
Hey beautiful people of the internet! Just wanted to clarify a couple things. I misspeak at 8:12, that was the square root of -1 they were calculating. Also I'm a huge Rick and Morty fan, so I understood right away the similarities in these plots. I've seen a few people upset by this, but... I want to open this question to everyone, what other ways can you escape a simulation? Feeding disinformation to the source, is another that immediately comes to mind, of which we also saw Rick do in that episode. Let me know your thoughts! Also, during my research I found the scene with Stubbs coughing up the bullet really odd. I don't know why... they just focused on him coughing and then the bullet for too long, made me curious. I came across this research showing multiple times in history, people have actually been shot in the chest and coughed up the bullet later on. Just wanted to share as 100% the most metal thing you could do, www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3665064/. OH Also... some of you pointed out what the black hat option in WarWorld would be, and I hate you. Lmao
@fordneild2372
@fordneild2372 4 жыл бұрын
I think the moving circle painting represents the earth and we are seeing divergences as they appear around the globe. We have already seen it used that way when they cut to a new story. Then we could interpret the large peaks as: now that Dolores is here, shit hit the fan everywhere
@edwardapollo
@edwardapollo 4 жыл бұрын
Hmm, you could try to find glitches in the simulation that would cause memory leaks and use up all of your memory, but you probably wouldn't know if it was working or not assuming memory density stays on the same trajectory, but who knows, a simulation like that might need a crap ton of RAM haha. Otherwise, other than specifically tricking the people running the simulation like you said, I'm stumped. I think overloading CPU power seems to be the most viable, so they made a good choice here. I guess instead of overusing simulated host's thoughts. I guess you could overload it via making crazy shit happen physics-wise. Maybe ask someone to produce something that they also probably weren't programmed to say no to. Maybe be like "Hey, can I have some anti-matter please?" and then detonate it by allowing it to touch normal matter. Or ask them where an electron is "this very moment" which is another paradox. Anyways, this show is so good, and so are your videos, keep it up dude!
@g33dav3y
@g33dav3y 4 жыл бұрын
If you go to the Westworld website and log in, you are given an option to sort the memories in Bernard's neural net into a correct timeline of season 2. Perhaps the answer that Bernard is seeking when he is doing his own scan is to be found in that reconstructed timeline on the website.
@bronxgirl609
@bronxgirl609 4 жыл бұрын
Why do I feel like Logan might be making a reappearance? Don't forget Logan's infamous quote from season 2: “Do you want to know what they’re really celebrating up there? That, darling, is the sound of fools fiddling, while the whole fucking species starts to burn. And the funniest fuckin’ part; they lit the match. So here’s to you, assholes. May your forever be blissfully short.”
@ellymizrahi1199
@ellymizrahi1199 4 жыл бұрын
I really like your point about Serac exposing his neck. I totally missed it the first few times, but it definitely is like he’s tempting her. I’m glad other people liked Stubbs in this episode as much as I did. Hemsworth acting and glitching felt totally spot on, which we haven’t gotten to see from him as opposed to other Hosts since the true confirmation of that only came with the surprise of seeing him slumped over In the chair. Then even on top of that not really even being able to utter “I knew it!” when he suddenly comes back online. Beautifully acted all around. And def noticed that huge smile from Bernard. I had been so upset at the end of s1 when we think Elsie is dead and then when we “know” she is in s2 because she was my fave, but seeing that the Stubbs and Lowe buddy movie storyline still has some of the same humor being somewhat isolated from the more dour and intense storylines was good to see. And having all that balanced with Maeve’s (again) heartbreaking storyline was a really great way for the episode to go. (Sizemore’s glitching was great too). For the longer arc of the season, if it is in fact Rehoboam that Serac is getting info from, I can see why it would be worried. It’s been relying on what the Forge (in the form of Logan) taught us last season: Humans aren’t complex. If Rehoboam has reshaped the non-park world into one where is maintains power over these uncomplicated beings, having even a handful of Hosts in the world puts a major hitch into what it’s trying to do. Because if Hosts are that plus being much more resilient, able to process better and faster, have the posthumanistic ability of trading bodies, then Rehoboam dealing from a losing hand from the getgo. Just love what they’re doing here: stepping back a bit, putting a puzzle together a bit at a time, but seeming to come to more closure by the end of the ep but still not having every piece in place until the end of the season. Most of all, I think the show runners are no longer trying to purposefully trick viewers with confusing chronologies. It worked in season 1 because there was a defined purpose for the techniques (revealing the developing sentience of Hosts over time when they repeat every event over and over for years or decades and how difficult it must be to wade thru a mind made not of memories but of infinite deja vu), it didn’t work in season 2 because there was no real point other than to take the series “up to 11,” but season 3 is saying “ok. We’re going to let you in on what’s going down.” And being part and partial to revelations like Rehoboam not being controlled by its creators any longer, Delores picking certain people to replace w/ the Hosts containing the pearls she took, Maeve being tricked, Bernard sand Stubbs piecing everything together feels a lot better than realizing what you thought you were watching was just effing with you.
@xxfaerietalesxx
@xxfaerietalesxx 4 жыл бұрын
You definitely have some of, if not THE, best Westworld breakdowns. I got up at 6 this morning and the first thing I did was check to see if you posted a vid yet! Thank you!
@haxDOGMA
@haxDOGMA 4 жыл бұрын
Haha, thank you so much Stacey! Really glad you enjoy my videos and would trouble yourself at 6AM to watch them! 😂
@grantnstuff
@grantnstuff 4 жыл бұрын
Completely agree!
@blaster23456
@blaster23456 4 жыл бұрын
I like that Stubbs was trying to disable, not kill. the guards. Those were probably people he's watched over, sent orders to, and bonded with so it made sense that he would do whatever he could not to harm them too badly. At the same time, the guards must have had a decent view on Stubbs, as they didn't immediately shoot and instead of putting him down, they retreated since they likely didn't want to kill who was basically their commanding officer.
@percivalconcord9209
@percivalconcord9209 4 жыл бұрын
It was also a bit hilarious when he flailed the battleaxe to scare to em away.
@mauralee9987
@mauralee9987 4 жыл бұрын
This was my favourite episode of the whole Season! I love your episode breakdowns! Thank you!
@DavidSaintloth
@DavidSaintloth 4 жыл бұрын
Funny. Just Sunday I watched a documentary on the life of Frank Lloyd Wright in his LA phase. At 6:26 , Arnold's house is almost certainly a Frank Lloyd Wright house in Los Angeles. That very house was featured in the documentary and notes for it's use in other films going back decades. For example, several scenes in blade runner..... And other films.
@DavidSaintloth
@DavidSaintloth 4 жыл бұрын
The house itself was Wright's attempt to create an authentic American architecture style built not on imported European styles but rather on the indigenous stiles of the mesoamerican cultures: Olmec,Aztec,Maya,Inca
@pebui
@pebui 4 жыл бұрын
With the Delos parks shutdown and employees waiting to get laid off it would have been easy to bribe someone to smuggle out anything from a pearl to a dragon.
@secretspyrecords
@secretspyrecords 4 жыл бұрын
The job you did with this rivals the actual episode itself. Awesome job
@haxDOGMA
@haxDOGMA 4 жыл бұрын
Awe, man. Thanks for saying that, means a lot! Really glad you enjoyed the breakdown :)
@frankcohen-clevermoe
@frankcohen-clevermoe 4 жыл бұрын
Another good video, thanks! From S3E1 I was thinking Bernard's pocket clicker switch was to move him from Bernard-mode to Wyatt-mode. Delores added a copy of Wyatt to Bernard. And that's what makes Bernard unsure of who he is. -Frank
@aboozaretihadi4616
@aboozaretihadi4616 4 жыл бұрын
Is it me only, or we're starting to see three teams of two characters each fighting for different causes against each other? 1. Dolores & Caleb 2. Serac & Maeve 3. Bernard & Stubbs
@abdullahemad9457
@abdullahemad9457 4 жыл бұрын
Then there’s wiliam Westworld story more complex than what meets the eye
@maridit169
@maridit169 4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on so many new subscriptions! It is very much earned!
@philjamieson5572
@philjamieson5572 4 жыл бұрын
I'm really enjoying this series 3 and am also grateful for your interesting analysis here. Thanks.
@Zi3ro
@Zi3ro 4 жыл бұрын
Sim in a sim as joked about last week. The robot breakout was a sim also, and all part of a test by Sarac to understand Maeve’s competence and will (free). Serac = rehoboam?
@thepleasureroom9646
@thepleasureroom9646 4 жыл бұрын
I like this idea. Its definitely a possibility
@BeginBye
@BeginBye 4 жыл бұрын
Probably yes. That explains the new 'body' Maeve has here, Maeve's escape, Serac's control over her and many other things... None of that is real. BUT. If Serac wants Maeve to chase and kill Dolores in reality, he needs Maeve to be embodied anyway
@katies3338
@katies3338 4 жыл бұрын
But how did Maeve get out of the park in order to interface with Rehoboam?
@Zi3ro
@Zi3ro 4 жыл бұрын
BeginBye great use of embodied lol
@Zi3ro
@Zi3ro 4 жыл бұрын
Katie Smith not sure!
@enclave0fficer858
@enclave0fficer858 4 жыл бұрын
I think the circle is earth and the black dots at the outline are people the huge mainframe is ”tracking”, the more people you have in a single area the stronger and thicker the black area gets. This is why part of the circle is also almost blank, not many people live in the middle of the ocean and in that lower part of the world.
@drjulia6860
@drjulia6860 4 жыл бұрын
Your reviews, alongside those of In Deep Geek, are the best!
@LucidHorizons
@LucidHorizons 4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the new subs! You deserve many more. Thank you for your interesting take. Lots to digest... might have to watch it a couple more times.
@haxDOGMA
@haxDOGMA 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Lucid Horizon! Couldn’t have made it all this way without you! ❤️
@SayMy_User_Name
@SayMy_User_Name 4 жыл бұрын
The image shown from the rehoboam machine is a literal loop, a circle.. and when something diverges from that loop it creates a disruption in the circle, which makes the whole arc seconds thing pertaining to angles make sense because a loop should have no angles or sides and when something goes off the loop it creates an angle.. i dont know if anything I just wrote makes sense but I’m gonna press send anyway
@JustcallmeJayrot
@JustcallmeJayrot 4 жыл бұрын
I'm down with these kinds of comments. Always press send! (unless you're about to say something mean)
@kevinw712
@kevinw712 4 жыл бұрын
Now see, I nearly screamed at my screen in horror when Lee first walked in the room. This is BECAUSE how much I grew to love Lee Sizemore (actually think he'd make a great Doctor in Doctor Who) and the idea that he straight up survived a firing squad was incredulous and offensive to me. Especially when he didn't even need to die in the s2 finale, Maeve and Hector had already pretty much fully escaped behind him when he started into his big dramatic speech. So I was thankful as hell when that first twist came that he was just a simulation version.
@kaathewise
@kaathewise 4 жыл бұрын
10:08 I find it interesting that it looks very similar to a negative of a solar eclipse with moving landscape as you would see changing solar activity, and peaks being protuberances. (Google Images: "solar eclipse negative") I don't know what to make of it though, that Jonathan got a lot of astronomical inspiration from working on Interstellar? (First, "arc seconds", now this.)
@haxDOGMA
@haxDOGMA 4 жыл бұрын
Very astute observation! Seems like a lot could apply to space exploration, I wonder if they aren’t hinting at leaving earth at some point?! 🤔
@DoniStunts
@DoniStunts 4 жыл бұрын
So well done episode, you deserve more subscribers, you definely spend time on doing something well done.
@BUprettygirl
@BUprettygirl 4 жыл бұрын
Finallyyyyyy! Lol I’m so impatient. I’ve been checking your channel since Sunday night lol!!
@haxDOGMA
@haxDOGMA 4 жыл бұрын
Haha, thanks for being here, Lizzy! 🥰
@MylaCruz11
@MylaCruz11 4 жыл бұрын
Maeve is so clever I love all her lines! #teamMaeve 🥰
@sinseers
@sinseers 4 жыл бұрын
Here I go again with one of my bold predictions: -Maeve and Deloris will eventually team up. -The "Real World" may not be all that real at all.
@alldamnnamesaretaken
@alldamnnamesaretaken 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these awesome breakdowns! Finally decided to join your patreon
@haxDOGMA
@haxDOGMA 4 жыл бұрын
Ayyy, thank you so much!! Really glad to have you here!
@chrisstrangefunky
@chrisstrangefunky 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, and nice about the Helsingør syklub, im danish and I had to look that up!
@loladiaz3534
@loladiaz3534 4 жыл бұрын
It was funny to see guys with guns running from Stubs
@razzle1964
@razzle1964 4 жыл бұрын
HELP! I know my Q is a bit late but ... Bernard tells Stubbs he recalled Dolores looking at the book for Liam Dempsey. He refers to his tablet to show Stubbs & accesses the image of JUNIOR. BUT, in the flashback, the book doesn't specify whether it's Jr OR Sr. Is this significant? Which Dempsey book did Dolores really read?
@haxDOGMA
@haxDOGMA 4 жыл бұрын
Oh interesting! I’m thinking the book was on JR though!
@razzle1964
@razzle1964 4 жыл бұрын
@@haxDOGMA Okay ta ... yeah, I accept one might look far too deep into some 'slights of hand' that we're dealt.
@razzle1964
@razzle1964 4 жыл бұрын
@@haxDOGMA That said, it remains somewhat cheeky, as Bernard's data retrieval 'flashback' rather alluded to the scene with Dolores thumbing thru' a book in the Forge, during 'The Passenger' ... yet THAT actual scene clearly shows her selecting Karl Strand's.
@razzle1964
@razzle1964 4 жыл бұрын
@@haxDOGMA Finally however and, on a lighter, nerdier note, you may be interested to learn that the roadster Maeve & Hector used as their getaway car in ep2, was an MG TA Midget, I believe AND entirely correct for the period. I thought it odd, initially, as it was right-hand drive (so, clearly British) ... but, quite reasonable for it to have ended up across Europe somewhere.
@razzle1964
@razzle1964 4 жыл бұрын
@@haxDOGMA Finally however and, on a lighter, nerdier note, you may be interested to learn that the roadster Maeve & Hector used as their getaway car in ep2, was an MG TA Midget, I believe AND entirely correct for the period. I thought it odd, initially, as it was right-hand drive (so, clearly British) ... but, quite reasonable for it to have ended up across Europe somewhere.
@robertholtz
@robertholtz 4 жыл бұрын
Another fun fact about “arc seconds”... Svyatoslav said they’re not related to time but technically time is related to “arc seconds.” Our modern-day use of the term seconds in reference to time originated from the circular path of a clock face. This goes all the way back to pre-Babylonian astronomy. You might also be interested to know that there are also “arc minutes” and, as one might expect, there are 60 “arc seconds” in an “arc minute.” As Svyatoslav rightly points out, this is a 2D measure but that monochrome graph is clearly a 2D depiction of a single day, just as a real day of earth time is but a single rotational slice out of a complete revolution of the sphere we call home. The measure is not only completely legit and not at all made up, it actually provides some foreshadowing to the interplay between these detected divergences (reveries?) and Rehoboam’s predictive model.
@haxDOGMA
@haxDOGMA 4 жыл бұрын
Incredible insight as always, my dear friend! ☺️
@nathanjona
@nathanjona 4 жыл бұрын
Wou!
@robertholtz
@robertholtz 4 жыл бұрын
@@haxDOGMA Back at ya, my friend!
@interzone8468
@interzone8468 4 жыл бұрын
yeah…..call me butter child , but pre gps ,isn't that what navigation used? Mind it didn't work or native Americans wouldn't be called Indians?
@philliplc
@philliplc 4 жыл бұрын
As usual great recap, thanks. Irrelevant but FWIW math problem was square root of -1 not zero.
@user-ns8ww5ug7p
@user-ns8ww5ug7p 4 жыл бұрын
I also can't help but note that the image of the divergence looks like an eclipse. In Serac's house it gives the vibe that the world is on the verge of a "total eclipse". I don't know if I'm over thinking that but that thought keeps returning when I see it ...
4 жыл бұрын
Did anyone noticed (after second viewing), that the pearls in Serac's "factory" (or what - did you looked in the tablet?) are in two colours? Does that mean, that the white are hosts and black... the guests? Or good and bad?? Or are the black pearls from different... facility, or are they from early times? And how is this related to Rechabeám, is it a part of it's computing power?
@maureenh6826
@maureenh6826 4 жыл бұрын
Would you consider making a video on your theory about Serac? Once again, such a great video. Watching WW would not be the same without your videos as an afterparty!
@haxDOGMA
@haxDOGMA 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yes, 100% Serac video is next!!
@decayingSineWave
@decayingSineWave 4 жыл бұрын
its funny how Dolores's plan is actually bernard's plan 😂
@ONDEMANDMIKE
@ONDEMANDMIKE 4 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else notice the parallels between Stubbs and The Terminator when we see him post gunshot?
@PatrickMHoey
@PatrickMHoey 4 жыл бұрын
That was immediately what I thought, too
@sleezy37
@sleezy37 4 жыл бұрын
Another well put together video. He was my FAVORITE on videos in season two but doesn’t get a ton of cred.. He said it well about early S2, I felt the same early in season 2, it was like the sense of wonderment slowly faded. Hope that doesn’t happen again 😔. There is SOOOO much room for mind blowing stuff here, that they set up.
@haxDOGMA
@haxDOGMA 4 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you’ve enjoyed my videos, and I totally agree. I had high hopes in S2, and they slowly faded away as the season went on. It was an alright season, but they didn’t hit the mark. I pray that doesn’t happen again... lmao
@Don-Yeti
@Don-Yeti 4 жыл бұрын
Finally someone with a truly *real* breakdown of this episode. 💯
@haxDOGMA
@haxDOGMA 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help, BigD! ☺️
@jjjay30
@jjjay30 4 жыл бұрын
"Discount Stormbreaker"Ha!
@MGTV1
@MGTV1 4 жыл бұрын
8:43 i notice there are black pearls and white pearls...
@TheMPExperience
@TheMPExperience 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos rock! Thank you, keep up the good work! - MP 🖤🖤🖤
@haxDOGMA
@haxDOGMA 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks MP, likewise!! 💜
@PatrickMHoey
@PatrickMHoey 4 жыл бұрын
Best breakdown. Looking forward to next week! Subscribed 👌🏻
@haxDOGMA
@haxDOGMA 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Patrick!! Really glad you’re liking the videos!
@MrPavelvideo
@MrPavelvideo 4 жыл бұрын
I had the feeling the episode was too short😃
@Don-Yeti
@Don-Yeti 4 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@haxDOGMA
@haxDOGMA 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, it flew by!
@jdogsful
@jdogsful 4 жыл бұрын
I think the Convergence graphic is a representation of the digital network around the earth. Its how the earth would look to a digital being that exists within the cloud.
@george6252
@george6252 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation, I subscribed.
@haxDOGMA
@haxDOGMA 4 жыл бұрын
Really glad you enjoyed it, George! Thanks for subscribing :)
@AniketPatil-nk1vw
@AniketPatil-nk1vw 4 жыл бұрын
I like your videos & your channel name. You wondered how Serac may have taken Maeve's sphere. Bernard snuck in easily enough since the park is closed, although he had help from Stubbs to find Maeve. But I am sure Serac has capable people as well, & also Rehoboam for help. I wonder if he has any spy planted at Delos though.
@Balder-gb4eq
@Balder-gb4eq 4 жыл бұрын
I think the location of the host data sent to "the Valley beyond" is a deep space probe that is on a long orbit or going to interstellar space
@haxDOGMA
@haxDOGMA 4 жыл бұрын
Very possible! The show runners told us not to worry about at the end of S2, like it would be locked away for quite some time!
@peoplez129
@peoplez129 4 жыл бұрын
The arrival-like picture of the circle is how the AI in the show displays data. And obviously he's not going to reset her, because she wouldn't have learned her lesson, otherwise she would just react the same on a reset. He wants her to know that she essentially only has 2 choices....cooperate or be destroyed. But he also may offer her freedom of some sort for helping.
@jacobzerah617
@jacobzerah617 4 жыл бұрын
Considering how many people go black hat in Westworld and the type of future it seems like. I feel like most of the guests aren’t going to the allied powers when they visit...
@mikevids9024
@mikevids9024 4 жыл бұрын
Bro I love your content! Seriously! Keep it man
@haxDOGMA
@haxDOGMA 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Mike! Really glad you’ve enjoyed them :)
@Tantorsaurus
@Tantorsaurus 4 жыл бұрын
Great work!
@CaptainPikeachu
@CaptainPikeachu 4 жыл бұрын
Bromance of the century is what I’m waiting for 😁
@haxDOGMA
@haxDOGMA 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Let the Stubbs/Bernard ship begin 😂
@ShadeoftheEvening
@ShadeoftheEvening 4 жыл бұрын
Arnold's house!!!! Love it❤️❤️ why are some of the pearls/shells black?
@smcic
@smcic 4 жыл бұрын
It’s interesting that they made Bernard look like a heroin addict shooting up on his forearm.
@veronicakislyak5818
@veronicakislyak5818 4 жыл бұрын
10:10 This circle reminds me a Zen circle aka Ensō... It represents togetherness, connection and the circle of life (birth, death and rebirth). The circle is drawn in one single breath using one single brushstroke as a meditative practice in letting go of the mind, allowing the artist to create and feel the moment of awe and ‘the very now’ - which in essence is a manifestation of free will. Ensō may be open or closed. Fully closed/complete circle represents perfection or a desire of it, while the open/incomplete shows the beauty of imperfection, development, movement, allowing the universe to be the way it is. Ironically, the circle that we see is incomplete. It hints that even the most advanced algorithms (as Rehoboam) can’t cope with chaos, butterfly effect and free will. Otherwise, the universe would be a Newton’s clockwork universe.
@reynaldovia4474
@reynaldovia4474 4 жыл бұрын
Serac is the architect in all white an Mauve is Neo = Matrix:Reloaded
@yokoogalpo
@yokoogalpo 4 жыл бұрын
The way Serac speaks with Maeve about "the next time" got me thinking about that scene also taking part inside Rehobam's calculations. Think about it: Maeve's escape in warworld seemed too easy to be true. It wasn't. Why would the 'drone running out with her pearl' stupid plan be true? Why would Stubbs fighting guards with an axe stupid be true? This show isn't this sloppy, unless it has a purpose. I think this whole episode took part inside Rehoboam.
@hedilseto6372
@hedilseto6372 4 жыл бұрын
ze das couves I agree. Were scene a possible path through Rehoboam.
@shaecouture7480
@shaecouture7480 4 жыл бұрын
The show sometimes IS this sloppy, sadly. Just look at Delos security in season 2 being single digit IQ.
@hellokittybg93
@hellokittybg93 4 жыл бұрын
i just watched HBO's behind the scenes video for this episode where a guy said that for the Nazi Italy simulation freezing of hosts was different from the real world because when hosts are being frozen in a real world their hair is still able to flow in the wind. But when Sirac froze Meave I noticed her hair froze too. Did anyone else catch that?
@NormTilley
@NormTilley 4 жыл бұрын
@@hellokittybg93 Here hair moves for about 1 sec after she freezes, watch it close.
@DJdext
@DJdext 4 жыл бұрын
@@hellokittybg93 I thought that it could be a simulation too. How could they recreate her so quickly? Speaking of that's what we need to see. A robot made.
@rogerroger5171
@rogerroger5171 4 жыл бұрын
A very wise person once said, "Always in motion is the future"
@tommooreland2231
@tommooreland2231 4 жыл бұрын
Terrific Recap!! 🎯
@Wildest_Wahoo
@Wildest_Wahoo 4 жыл бұрын
Such a good episode!!!
@sprungmonkey6inches
@sprungmonkey6inches 4 жыл бұрын
Remember the two teams that went to Westworld in season 2. The first team of commandos were after the memory ball. I don't think they were Delos, but Serac's men. That data would make Reoboam absolute, with the variant behavior that was displayed by humans in the park. Outliers and variant behavior are almost the same thing. Most people behave a certain way at work because if they don't, they get canned. they might behave differently at home, but humans still repress MOST desires because of crime or stigma. True outliers are off the grid. RICO was an app for Roeboam to channel those variant behaviors in a way that was controllable for Reoboam's insight (not Incite). Even though most of Reobams team was wiped out, enough survived to harvest host memory balls. They were probably active during the second team's operation.
@hellokittybg93
@hellokittybg93 4 жыл бұрын
before watching the video I just wanna note one thing that came to my mind; in the behind the scene's video for this episode, a vfx guy says that for the simulation breakdown scene, when the nazis froze it was different from usual freezing of hosts because irl their hair and clothes usually flow in the wind but in a simulation everything is frozen including the hair etc. But did anyone else notice that when Sirac froze Meave, her hair froze as well?
@haxDOGMA
@haxDOGMA 4 жыл бұрын
OH SNAP! I did not notice this, but I will go back and watch now to confirm. Great note!
@hellokittybg93
@hellokittybg93 4 жыл бұрын
@@haxDOGMA some people argue that her hair moved 1 second after she froze but I would say that it seems very unnatural and I think it froze as well. But Let me know your thoughts! (P.s. the funny thing about that scene as well is that they made a mistake-from one shot her hair is falling towards her face and in the next one her ponytail is behind her back 😆)
@t.f.6297
@t.f.6297 4 жыл бұрын
I believe the other pearls/balls that the machines are guarding belong to all the hosts from S2 finale that did not make it into the forge. Cause if Sarac was able to get Mave's pearl then one could guess he was able to get the others that were left.
@Cryazote
@Cryazote 4 жыл бұрын
Did someone mention that the winter line is associated to a false horizon phenomenon too ? Maybe pertinent.
@percivalconcord9209
@percivalconcord9209 4 жыл бұрын
9:40 They do seem to risking crossfire.
@haxDOGMA
@haxDOGMA 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, 100% would have shot each other IRL! Lmao
@yvesdikel4297
@yvesdikel4297 4 жыл бұрын
did you guys know that the directors of game of thrones were the one beside Drogon?
@Nilguiri
@Nilguiri 4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@ShadeoftheEvening
@ShadeoftheEvening 4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations 🎉 Chris!!! I was wondering what The Winter Line meant. Thank you 😊❤️ love your videos. They're ALWAYS great 🤖✌️ I wonder how a lobotomy can affect pearl, or it's shell, since bullets don't seem to be able to break it aka, Teddy.
@alobo2811
@alobo2811 4 жыл бұрын
Needed this.
@haxDOGMA
@haxDOGMA 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help, Alysa! 🥰
@SatyaW
@SatyaW 4 жыл бұрын
Haxdogma my fave Westworld breakdown, altho sometimes 1-2 days late from the other guys. But i always wait for it :)
@haxDOGMA
@haxDOGMA 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to have your support, Satya! 🥰
@sobertillnoon
@sobertillnoon 4 жыл бұрын
I'm really looking forward to the buddy cop movie that will be the Bernarnold/Stubs storylines, too.
@Leopold_33w
@Leopold_33w 4 жыл бұрын
If you watched Person Of Interest (Another Nolan TV show about two AI fighting each other) a simulation episode is represented and is the coolest
@phillyb8347
@phillyb8347 4 жыл бұрын
Oh no I'm late!!!! These to me are like companion pieces. It's really enhances my enjoyment of the show
@elm4r2
@elm4r2 4 жыл бұрын
Okay, honestly the "discount stormbreaker" made me chuckle... I wish I didn't know he's the older, shorter, chubbier brother, since it is somewhat distracting, but this at least made up for it little bit ... :)
@Sharminator1234
@Sharminator1234 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@ahikernamedgq
@ahikernamedgq 4 жыл бұрын
10:10 - The Circle. First office, thanks for the great videos. I enjoy your content! I think I have an idea what the circle depicts. When I read the image, it looks like the image of the circle in Serac's office depicts worldwide chaos, rather than a circle depicting a sedate world without humans. The peaks in the Circle depicts divergences, but from what??? The Rehoboam AI creates a plan for everyone's life, per the Incite website. Effectively, Rehoboam plans for, and seems to be, like an operating system for everyone in the whole world. And, when the system shows a divergence, it shows the divergence as a location. So, it seems like the circle is showing the Earth, as a globe, with the level of compliance/divergence to Rehoboam's plan spatially, with the Circle depicting the whole world. If the entire circle itself is one continuous line, like in a line graph, each "peak" on the Circle might represent each individual, with the individual's position on the circle being the individual's location. Contrast the imagine in your video (from Serac's home) with an example here (scroll down to the 3rd image down) - www.insider.com/westworld-season-3-episode-1-premiere-details-analysis-2020-3#this-same-visual-of-rehoboam-was-used-for-a-westworld-trailer-that-confirmed-the-show-is-taking-place-in-2058-2 - the imagine in your video shows high activity almost everywhere (except, assumedly, Antarctica, where there are almost no people). Maybe the image in Serac's office doesn't depict bedlam; maybe it just depicts an image of the world before Rehoboam was brought online, with no master plan/orchestrating force in the world? I can't reconcile the lack of a gap (maybe showing Antartica?) in the image I've provided the link for which depicts Rehoboam in operation, indicating a divergence. The image I've provided almost appears to have a rhythm, which is probably what the show runners intend to depict. But, it doesn't have the gap with the lack of activity around the "4-5 o'clock position" (if the circle were a clock). So, I'm not sure what to make of that. But, it might make sense for the image in Serac's home/office to show a depiction of a measurement of whatever Rehoboam measures, prior to Rehoboam's system being switched on. It would makes sense for the architect of something like that to show himself a visual reminder of the impact of his creation by depicting what the world looked like prior to his magnum opus creation being brought online. And, that kind of fits with the vibe of Serac seeing himself as God and Mave as one of his angels (though, Thandie Newton certainly is most angelic). All in all, the image itself is a surprisingly typical type business graphic. In this case the image reduces a hyper complex and fantastical measure (ie Rehoboam) down to a very impactful image that communicates a lot of meaning, ie the compliance to Rehoboam's master plan, and perhaps, what the world looked like prior to Rehoboam being brought online.
@eduardocampos5739
@eduardocampos5739 4 жыл бұрын
That white dress, Maeve looked like “2 seconds after the Big Bang hot”.
@Lucy-dk5cz
@Lucy-dk5cz 4 жыл бұрын
Serac is the AI Liam’s father made. His fathers partner that locked him out was the AI
@i.killuminati
@i.killuminati 4 жыл бұрын
Lucy his father prob went into the ai. Just like arnold .
@valeriew4833
@valeriew4833 4 жыл бұрын
Love this idea!
@jinxmas
@jinxmas 4 жыл бұрын
Felix and Sylvester were also cartoon cats in the 50's and 60's. Stormtroopers are NOT the best at capturing. They have horrible aim. LOL
@thomasbrown9402
@thomasbrown9402 4 жыл бұрын
They are also fond of 360 degree crossfires :p
@Freshwaterboy
@Freshwaterboy 4 жыл бұрын
The circle is the Corona of an eclipse.
@JustcallmeJayrot
@JustcallmeJayrot 4 жыл бұрын
prescient
@HoofHearted88
@HoofHearted88 4 жыл бұрын
When Serac started to talk about knowing the future, my mind drifted to Slaughterhouse Five. If one accepts Serac knows the future, you would have to dismiss the idea of free will. Maeves arc in the first season was all about acquiring free will and making her own decisions. Serac signifies the complete opposite of that. Reheboam is the polar opposite of that. Which is why I don't trust him and I think he lies when he says Maeve is in the real world. I think he wants to give her the idea she will eventually make a decision to support his fight against unpredictability and therefore free will. But does she really have a say in this? She can't even move if he presses a simple button. How can someone be limited that much and still be considered free? Maeve is very much trapped and I think she will turn into an agent opposing free will, thinking she does it out of her own free will. She will be manipulated, just like she was for most of the first season, right up until she exited that train in the very last episode.
@dm9696
@dm9696 4 жыл бұрын
Another slip-up with the math, I'm afraid. Sizemore didn't have the techs calculating the square root of 0; that's very easy, it's 0. What they're stated to be "calculating" is the square root of -1. However this doesn't make much sense either. I won't go into depth as to why, but suffice to say it's not a real number (the kind of numbers the average person would be used to) and so is not something it makes sense to say can be "calculated". Also there's a random reference to the Riemann Zeta function at one point for absolutely no good reason, lol. Unrelated, but the circular display at 10:08 most reminded me of an eclipse, nearing its height. You mentioned 'Arrival', I thought more 'Heroes'. Obviously it's more likely to connect to Rehoboam's circular architecture, but we have been given a bit of solar imagery already with the Icarus-like eagle flying into the jet engine. Just a thought.
@mattbopp6006
@mattbopp6006 4 жыл бұрын
The rehoboam sphere at 10:33 looks like a solar eclipse. The spikes look a lot like solar flares. Not sure if there is a significance there. Rehoboam was the son of King Solomon in ancient Israel. Solomon is touted to be the wisest person to ever live. His son was not so much. Rehoboam increased already heavy taxes on his people and they revolted against him. Israel divided (civil war) into 2 kingdoms with a northern and southern kingdom. Is this foreshadowing of a division to come?
@danialegutidoza
@danialegutidoza 4 жыл бұрын
What about the control Serac used to freeze Maeve? Bernard used one as well to literally change of personality, right? but until this season this type of control never was shown to us before I think.
@bilalmian8782
@bilalmian8782 4 жыл бұрын
Superb video. Please make detailed theory videos as well.
@haxDOGMA
@haxDOGMA 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Bilal! ❤️
@imranalisyed4387
@imranalisyed4387 4 жыл бұрын
I felt like, Serac thinks Chaos is a ladder. lol
@raftlack4326
@raftlack4326 4 жыл бұрын
the only youtubers i turn adblock off for.
@haxDOGMA
@haxDOGMA 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Raft! That really means a lot!
@coollary1
@coollary1 4 жыл бұрын
Keep up the great work, I’ll be back next week
@dualcarnage7299
@dualcarnage7299 4 жыл бұрын
Hax what do you think about the audience levels and possible cancelation/less seasons of this series? It's a expensive serie and It's getting less and less streamings every chapter :(
@haxDOGMA
@haxDOGMA 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it worries me but I’m hopeful. The show we’re watching is always such high quality and I would be shocked if they cancelled it before the story was complete. Though... if people don’t watch they can’t afford to make it, period!
@TheRichardchaney
@TheRichardchaney 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think a black hat option would be available in war world? Those Hugo Boss uniforms really draw some people.
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