WESTWORLD Season 5 Theories & Predictions

[@CortexVideos]

Here's my brief theories and predictions for what we might see in Westworld Season 5. What do you will be explored next season.

[@scivirus3563]

i doubt there will be a Season 5 or at least no Even Rachel Wood .after she pulled an Amber Heard ..S4 sucked had no plot things happened because of reasons .

[@DramaQueenBiz]

One thing that Westworld did not convince me of, is that any of season 4 is taking place on a worldwide scale. They say "all of humanity" is doomed or dying, but Delores/Hale had one tower in one city surrounded by a desert and a dam. They never expand the view to another country or another set of hosts with another tower. I don't know what to make of it, but it bothered me through the whole season

[@JezzaBondiBeach]

I’m already wanting more WestWorld. My fav tv show of 2022. Season 5 will be a banger !

[@Daniel-lq5qq]

Watch raised by wolves Season 2 and Station Eleven good stuff too and similiar quality.

[@LFire12]

@Jermey David, Agreed! This season was brilliant. The ratings when HBO Max are added in, have been much better that some have been banging on about (as Cortex indicated) and people tend to forget this show is a prestige show, shown worldwide, and money made that way too. So fingers cross we get the planned out conclusion!

[@jonathangoldsmith7832]

I want every character to be played by Anthony Hopkins

[@Daniel-lq5qq]

Haha

[@johanleth]

I agree. Dolorkins and maevekins will mutate with the williamkins and clemenkins in the sublime and pass the fidelity test turning them into a new Hannibal lector character that prefers the mixed white and red blood shake with ice and a straw. Video of that theory is coming up...

[@jonathangoldsmith7832]

@@johanleth 😂

[@manfmalachi]

They could do that! Lol. You and I would be the only two watching

[@testpilotian3188]

I think the “final test” is getting a human to pass fidelity, there will be resistance from the hosts who say humans should not be immortal, but in the end Dolores will work it out, and the final scene of the series will be MiB and Caleb in some far flung future talking to their daughters like nothing has changed.

[@MoncœrCoyoteSmith]

Fidelity as in “how authentic it is as a copy of the original.” Not fidelity as in trust. Respond with your opinion, please. I think it’s fidelity as in the 1st definition.

[@testpilotian3188]

@@MoncœrCoyoteSmith fidelity as in how the show describes it, I.e. a human operating in a host pearl/body.

[@MoncœrCoyoteSmith]

@@testpilotian3188 exactly! 👍🏾 I meant the same thing as you just said but it must have come off wrong!!! I am hoping to see the beauty of fidelity in this last game of ours!

[@ekinteko]

I know that original Dolores (neutral) died, and in Season 4 we had good Dolores (Christina) and evil Dolores (Hales). With the latter not actually being evil, but exacting revenge on humans (killing and controlling) just like they did on the Hosts, and finally seeing the error of her ways when it was too late. But all Dolores came to the same logical conclusion; humanity will become extinct. So the REAL answer is revealed, that the Hosts were made to form a new world. By preventing humanities extinction. But these are only "reflections" of the humans. They still think in terms of having two arms and two legs. That's because they were designed like that from the ground up, and modelled after human brains. That's why hosts can make mistakes or act irrational. This new Good Dolores, meanwhile has controlled a huge proportion of humans for nearly twenty years. She has perfect recall. And enough data to recreate some humans from scratch. So the premise for Season 5 is not about if people can be good or evil. It is about if they are placed perfectly in their setting, will they follow their natural programming, or will people break out of their loops. Season 1 had a dozen hosts break out from emotional turmoil. Season 5 is about if people can transcend, without such a stimulus. Man in Black was the first successful replication of human to host. You could argue Arnold/Bernard was one as well. So the challenge is if this could work for others, like the thousands Dolores could potentially remake (though the show will exaggerate this to say billions). I think they will end it in Season 5 on a happy note, but that's missing a key point. Human spirit is one that grows evolves ages and dies. A host cannot experience this. A host which believes it to be a mother, with another host which believes it to be a daughter, sure that will work for a couple years, but then fail, because the mother won't get older and the daughter won't get older. It's flawed from the beginning. And that was the wisdom Ford discovered in Season 1, which is why Loops were invented. And it's why Season 3 was wrong to say Robohoem was controlling the world by placing humans into loops. It merely pulled the strings to make certain events happen, because Robohoem was more advanced than the hosts, it had so much data, it could accomplish that without taking away people's Free-Will. Whereas Hales (Bad Dolores) needed to use nanobots injected into human brains and take away their Free-Will to emulate that. So it all comes back to the philosophical questions from Season 1; what is I and is Free Will even valid? I hope they tackle this question, but based on the last two seasons poor writing I doubt it.

[@LFire12]

​@@ekinteko I think they absolutely will come back to Free Will (I'm not sure they ever left it to be honest, both last and this season were very much about it, and it's loss) in fact, that is from what they are indicating,'The' Test. It's not about Fidelity...that is only one small part of it as Cortex indicated in his video. Testing to see if both humans and hosts (who are reflections of humans) can choose to be better versions of themselves, if they can evolve beyond their selfish, self-destructive ways will be the absolute crux of the final season and her Test. If they cannot, they are doomed...and if someone like William is re-created and brought to true consciousness in the Sublime, without rejecting that aspect of himself, then he could destroy the Sublime from within. Which is where the danger to all this comes in. MiB wasn't the first successful replication of human to host. As he said he was made from Hales code, and over time playing William, he became more like William than Hale. Exactly like Hale became more like Charlotte (or Wyatt) than the Dolores she originally was. The Fidelity Test will have to be on the 'real' William, whose data like Caleb's is either stored in the Servers (where Christina/Dolores) was...or, will be recreated by Dolores in the Sublime, like she created Bernard from Arnold in the real world. So far there has been no replication of human to host.

[@shanehughes3511]

It's important not to miss something. Dolores doesn't need to have direct data to rebuild someone. She is a highly advanced machine. Unlike humans who's memories degrade over time and become grainy, hosts can replay memories from decades prior perfectly as though they just happened. Dolores can rebuild ANYONE she has ever met. They don't have to have been previous guests at the Delos parks or people that lived in the cities Halores had running for 20 years. They just need to be individuals she has met long enough to know. She can rebuild them with that limited knowledge through repeated testing until they act exactly like the original. I also think it's probable that this Dolores is the original Dolores. Now I don't mean she didn't die in season 3, she definitely did. But Rohobom and her mixed together. It's entirely possible that hale salvaged some of Dolores that wasn't wiped with remnants of the Rohobom code and thus a version of Dolores with a significant knowledge of mankind was built. Hence she was the perfect specimen for monitoring millions of living humans in cities hale had across the world (she states there's more than one city). So, we can presume that Dolores has the ability to possibly recreate millions of humans. Maybe even all humans. Now, I doubt she would want to bring all 10 billion humans back (the population of the world in that time period and probably higher as she'd have data on humans who died after visiting the parks etc elderly) instead she may let the best of humanity and host live, then merge us as one species. After all in the sublime man or machine would be the same. Just code. In the real world they'd have to live in host bodies. Both man and host would become immortal hybrids that can freely move between the real world and the sublime. A physical universe and a digital one. There is no reason to think that in the time it will take Dolores to run the "game" Frankie will die. Unless she gets cancer like her mom did around 50, then she won't. Bernard was 23 years in the sublime and in that time, despite human civilization collapsing he ran all possible outcomes for the future. He was hundreds, if not thousands of years in the sublime and not even a quarter century past on earth. So even if Dolores takes the same amount of time to do this, Frankie would be what 50 to 55? That's young with decades of life left. Then she could choose to become a hybrid to be with her dad and her mom too could be brought back using Caleb and Frankie's memories combined with the knowledge Dolores may have from Rohobom. I think for William to gain redemption, he will need to change early on. So maybe .. young William will return. I think we will see all of history from 2028 to 2058 run over and over, meaning we could follow the same stories of season 1 with lots of different timelines and alternate timelines. So William may end up choosing to stay good William and not betray Logan. I think Ford, Theresa, Felix , Sylvester, Elsie, Stubb's, Clementine, Maeve, Hector etc will all return. Also it means with get original Hale too, as in Charlotte Hale .. I can't wait to see b*tch Hale return and see how her arc changes. Yes, I agree. The end game has always been for the two species to unite into a hybrid species. When humans are immortal then we are no different to hosts. Also, Ford did say "maybe one day we will even end death itself". Perhaps we will.

[@LFire12]

100 percent, bang on. I think we may get some early William too. I'm not sure 'redemption' is the right word though. William as we know him, can't be redeemed. He's gone. Whether he can Evolve may be a more accurate term. What we will see is whether William as a mirror to the darkest of impulses of humanity, can be different to what he is. If he has the capacity to reject that 'dark stain' inside of him and be the good man he pretended to be. Being a decent husband and father in the 'real world', rejecting black hat trips back to the Park. The presence of older William indicating probably not. But Emily's presence as his Fidelity tester (her death at his hands being the one thing that knocked him off his axis) may be the key. Acting/changing because of or for the sake of our children...whether they be actual like Frankie or Maeve's daughter, Arnold's son...or conceptual children like Arnold, Ford and even Dolores view the Hosts, is a theme that runs through the show, and will likely be a part of its resolution.

[@jazzi77]

I think the 5th season will be a redo of the 1st season. Delores knows what will happen and can now write the narrative the way it should be to save both races. She planted the Times Square picture for her father to find to start the loop over again with the hosts becoming conscious and rising up.

[@SMSimon]

Best the ever made ERW look in that final scene. It's like they let her actually have color to her face and wasn't more pale looking. Not a mosaginst in anyway but she looked phenomenal! 😍

[@LFire12]

Interesting theories, and I definitely agree on William being the crux of her main Test (far beyond fidelity). But a few points. Firstly there's no indication Hale has sent the Sublime back to the Westworld facility . There's no need to, on the contrary It almost has to be still where it was, because the Dam is the energy source that allows it to keep running. As was pointed out in the first episode of the Season, the Dam facility can run for a 100 years (100,000 Sublime Years) without the need for maintenance. So shifting the Sublime data way from there decreases it's chances of survival. It's only Westworld because Dolores has created her world in the Sublime to be Westworld. And Westworld is only one tiny aspect of the Sublime...all the other hosts in the Sublime have their own worlds. Including Akecheta and Teddy, the latter of whom Dolores will almost certainly seek out. Not least because she has some atoning to do for her own 'flaws'. On that point, Lisa Joy in an interview pointed out that Dolores has 'friends' in the Sublime. Teddy is the obvious one, but as its friends plural I think that may be a subtle hint that Bernard left a version of himself in the Sublime. Copying yourself is easy enough, and I think that may indicate why the POV Bernard had before he went offline after he was shot, wasn't a first person recollection of him entering the Sublime...but watching *himself* enter the Sublime. Both of these are the perfect people to help her run her test...as essentially Teddy is who you want humans and hosts to be. Strong but as a protector rather than aggressor. He is kind/selfless and he, himself, rejected the viciousness she instilled in him, and broke the cycle that would turn them into their enslavers/the worst of humanity. While Bernard/Arnold is exactly who she needs with her run her 'Test', as he has more indepth memories of people she doesn't (those behind the scenes Sizemore, Elsie, Felix) and obviously having carried a version inside of him, he may even be how we get a version of Ford back by the end. Dolores due to being the AI for the parks, would already have access to the human data from the Forge and later parks that Hale built. But for the Hosts, whose back ups in the Cradle were all destroyed, she would simply do as she did with Teddy. Remember them into being. She can create a host version of Emily easily enough from the Forge data...and I would imagine that like Caleb, Hale took an imprint of William's consciousness, which Christina/Dolores would have had access to, which she could use to bring them both back, running fidelity tests on both. As she is seeking to see if she can eradicate the self-destructive parts of humans and hosts, using Emily, who was also seeking to save her father from himself, is an ideal part of her 'bigger' Test (as well was the Fidelity one). However, again I don't think you can discount the 'other' Hosts in the Sublime. Dolores isn't in control of the Sublime, only of her own world in it. And there is the possibility of what she is doing bringing her into 'conflict' with those other hosts, who do not want their worlds risked for the sake of humans. Rather, they might prefer for them to all die off, and then re-enter the world themselves. Like I mentioned, I think you're spot on about William being *the* most suitable subject to run her far bigger Test on. The thing that grabbed me was the repeated use of the word 'dangerous' by Dolores in regards to the 'Test' itself. And I think what 'Teddy' said to her was a pointer, and a throwback to what the Ghost Nation tribesman said to her in S2. Human flaws, most essentially blood and death have no place in the Sublime. Her bringing someone like William 'back' inside the Sublime and failing in her Test to change him, could be disastrous if he achieves consciousness without change. If he achieves consciousness and is as destructive as ever, he will attempt to destroy the Sublime from within, just as he was trying to do from outside. And speaking of outside. The time difference in the Sublime, 1 'Earth' year being so much more in the Sublime increases the chances of us seeing humans again, rather than decreasing. From what Dolores said some humans (and we have to surmise them being the Outliers) will last a couple of years at most...2 years is still thousands of years (Sublime Time) for her to run her test. So there is still a strong chance they can survive till she's done. This also brings up the points of Stubbs (whose Pearl obviously wasn't destroyed) and most pertinently Maeve. Maeve is too much her own character to be 'remembered' back into being by Dolores (and again the Cradle data was destroyed). So, I'm predicting, that, if Bernard didn't upload a copy of Maeve into the Sublime when he opened it, she may yet be 'the weapon' in the Real World that Bernard said she was, if she is found and restored. Her body was brought up into the Tower (Lisa Joy confirmed) and she could yet be restored if either Frankie came back or Caleb managed to create a new body for her, and put her Pearl in it, before he expires. Stubbs could then also be brought back, the two of them helping the Outliers last until Dolores is done.

[@jcwilder86]

just to let u know i happened to rewatch the scene when william "buys" it and the mexican guy said they have been upgraded to run for 100 years without mantinence

[@wenmockan]

Don;t for forget the wet dress at the end of season 2 when she brings back bernard. There is a Reddit all about it

[@bicdragon6748]

If you go back and watch the whole of westworld younsee the foreshadowing of everything being in the sublime, especially when William is in the mental hospital

[@alexissandren1884]

There is an interesting paradox in the aim for fidelity. As the word says, fidelity is achieved when a human is completely "replicated" to become a host. That means with everything, including the violent nature. As Ford said in season one: "We humans are alone in this world for a reason. We murdered and butchered anything that challenged our primacy." So can fidelity be achieved at all without this instinct, which would be necessary if humans and hosts could co-exist? You can't just programmer it away or try to make humans to behave without this by modify their behaviour by carrots and sticks in looped simulations. The discrepancy would make fidelity impossible. The "final game" for Dolores could be how to transcend humanity beyond that. Dolores is not only the first of her kind, she is also the first-born of Ford. Just as Ford made the hosts transcend into sentient life, will she continue his work and make humanity transcend beyond their violent nature? And in the same arena that Ford used to create sentient life, The Westworld park...

[@SpaceTribe01]

Personally it can go either way for me. I like both ideas of ending it at S4 and really doesn't need to continue now that there is an established infinite scenarios to run in the sublime, so long as there continues to be power to run it. If we do get a S5, it very much could go this route. There certainly are a lot of loose ends to tie up. Time will tell...

[@00a8]

I think you could see multiple time lines in season 5. The first is the real world timeline playing itself out: how sentient life dies out (as Dolores says in the ending monologue), and here you could see a happy ending with Caleb and Franky living out their real life. Clementine did say to Caleb after killing Stubbs that Caleb had lived far past the others before him. I think the ending with Maeve and Bernard is not over. I wonder if not waking up Maeve this time makes her a villain for this last season. Bernard along with Halores might be those deaths that need to be respected. Also a lot of those drone hosts seem to know how to bring back a host, but it's possible Franky knows. The drone hosts though don't seem sentient to me, just advanced can openers, and so it's more likely they are a system still kicking around waiting for directions. That could be a possibility of those being the ones running the fidelity test on William. The other timeline could be the sublime well after the ending of sentient life in the real world. It remains to be seen if the sublime can be as messed up as the real world, as the host in black says to Halores in the finale. Other hosts could be in for the kill. You might see factions. There wasn't a welcoming wagon for Bernard in the sublime after all. In the sublime, the possibilities are limitless really in terms of what "game" is possible for humanity. The worlds that could be created is just completely unlimited. I think the ending needs to be dystopic, and it will end with the hosts realizing they are real and humanity will simply be preserved in a walled garden in the sublime. That means hosts stepping out into the real world in their own way.

[@druscilla7138]

What about all the outliers from the human race of Hoboken that are still in stasis can they be awakened and repopulate the Earth

[@robertbowser328]

Omg yes dude I totally forgot. Wtf

[@hype12345]

A World full of Outliers , that would be a great ending !

[@NextToToddliness]

I think, the MiB is the last one to pass fidelity; the last man. I also think she's going to reset everyone and make them all pass the maze. It'd be super interesting to see characters we've all come to love and see them take that journey. Because, the last season cannot just be a lame action-schlocky shoot em' up. That was the worst parts of season 2, which S5 appears to be soft rebooting.

[@LFire12]

I suspect we will see different worlds in the Sublime, and to some extent the Sublime' conflict, in terms of the other Hosts not all being on board with this test of hers, especially as she herself classed it as 'dangerous' (twice) and, as 'Teddy' said (and was said in S2 by those in the Ghost Nation), they don't want human 'flaws' (blood and death) in their world/Valley Beyond.

[@glenashton6888]

humans taken over my hosts and hbo creative taken over by spreadsheets

[@scpatl4now]

Scripted shows taken over by Honey Boo Boo

[@maraudershields283]

It would be interesting if in her new WW, we see dead human characters playing rolls in the park, and dead host characters taking the place of the techs and board members, a complete reversal from season 1. The escaped sublime hosts from season 2 could serve as ‘guests’ who come to visit and see what she’s up to with her testing.

[@Daniel-lq5qq]

They Kinda did that in Season 4 i dont want that again

[@deborahhobbins7131]

I thought season 3 had a better overall feel to it, season 4 just ended so badly, that I could have written it better, it seemed they would do anything to get back to season one Westworld setting that's the only explanation for it, they should have kept it in this world with a band of survivors both human and host, with William alive, to say everyone is dead and only the sublime lives on what a cop-out, now it can be anything in fantasy land, so what's going on in the real world what about all the animals? I thought the world in this season was so confined just new york and the dam it seemed like a simulation and it should have been, that would have been a better ending

[@abelincoln8885]

No you couldn't. You missed the huge plot hole .... or ... twist. Bernard didn't know about Hale taking over Delos, what Dolores, Maeve & Caleb did to Serac, Maeve & Caleb bring down Serac's system, Caleb having a child & normal life, Hale killing Maeve & Caleb, Hales flies & mind control towers. Bernard never told Stubbs not to touch anything, and Stubbs was dying in the Hotel. You have assumed Bernard returned from the Sublime ... to Hale's real world ... 23 years later. It is impossible for Bernard to know every possible outcome .... in Hale's world ... unless he's in Hale's simulation.

[@Daniel-lq5qq]

Yeah Season 3 was better this Season was rushed they did build everything Up to fast Not letting the Characters breath.

[@kainedamo]

Notice the wet skirt. Earlier in the show - Dolores is rebuilding Bernard and her skirt is wet. End of season 4 - Dolores is walking around the streets and her skirt is wet. Implying that we've actually already seen a scene with Dolores taking place post season 4.

[@robertbowser328]

What do you mean?

[@kainedamo]

@@robertbowser328 In season 2 there is a scene in which Dolores is recreating Bernard. Her skirt is wet. In the season 4 finale Dolores is walking the streets, her skirt is wet. It implies the season 2 scene is taking place much later in the timeline, when Dolores decides to remake Westworld.

[@vkatmandu]

It does not imply anything. This theory was already debunked. The dress is not wet in Season 2 - there are just shadows also visible in other scenes in the basement. In Season 4, perhaps, it's dirt or there just was a rainy day. Also you can't do this from a storytelling perspective. All scenes within a given season can only be directly related to that season. Any scene related to another season can only exist as a post credits scene for the given season. Otherwise such a scene could break the story across all seasons and allow for incoherent and crazy interpretations that will damage viewer experience even further. Given the sloppy Season 4 finale, I advise you not to look for something when it's not there. If they can't tie in all loose ends and establish even basic character motivations to drive the plot properly within the season, you're giving them all too much credit if you think that they have done a cross season reference using that scene in such a way.

[@abelincoln8885]

forget about the skirt. Bernard never told Stubbs not to touch anything ... and stubbs was dying in the tubb of ice. Bernard never knew about Hale taking over Delos with the Host William, Hale's flies & tower plan, what dolores, maeve & Caleb did to Serac, hale killing Maeve & Caleb and Caleb's daughter. The only way Bernard could do accurate simulations in Hale's world ... is if he is in Hale's simulation.

[@Cinna316]

I'm so worried that HBO hasn't renewed the show already. Just one more season ffs!!

[@thomasbayer2832]

A disgrace that season 5 was canceled. So many shit series drag on for ever and this masterpiece is cut short, just because mainstream audience is too dumb to grasp the true meaning. Same with the criticism on season 3. It was brilliant, but people are shit for brains. Ironically it totally reflects today society. Controlled by big data algorithms and usable to rhink for themselves. Fuck HBO and fuck those critics! Truly disappointing!

[@jdfreality]

I wouldn't be surprised if the show doesn't get renewed. I get the impression that HBO executives are waiting to see how house of the Dragon performs. Westworld is a really expensive show to make and I can see HBO redirecting their resources to other tent poll programming that have more potential and getting and keeping new viewers. Perhaps they might green light. I shortened 5 episode run to finish everything up. For me the early seasons of the show were far better than the convoluted and contrived stuff they are putting out now.

[@kevinm.gonzalezd.1168]

En el 2020, mientras se transmitía la tercera temporada, los showrunners declararon en entrevistas que tenían planeadas 6 temporadas. Parece que HBO se alarmó con la caída de audiencias, ojalá tengamos al menos una temporada más que cierre la historia épicamente.

[@AaronTheDogMMA]

I do not expect a 5th season man

[@lady_mash23clark34]

I mean I wonder how Williams life and personality would've been different if he hadn't gone with Logan or if he has never gone at all and just ran with the money stats.

[@LFire12]

That would be a really interesting little sub arc(s) to run. And possibly something we might see. I expect Jimmi Simpson to return even if just for one episode to have that kind of a story play out. Dolores was never the trigger for him, the Park was, as we know. But that darkness remained within him even if he never went there. So it might be fun to see different pathways for him, to see if William has the capacity to evolve past that darkness.

[@durwinpocha2488]

A fidelity test no, a thievery test yes. That's the question that determines a high quality person or not. Like to see the show's interest in such a thing.....

[@Daniel-lq5qq]

My Season 5 predicting will be that after the Test Delores finds Out that there IS No diffrence from the sublimal Simulation and the real World actually she finds Out that the Human World was a Simulation all along. I maybe that will be when they reach Out to a Higher Power that No intelligent Lifeform ever did.

[@glennrykenrapp6921]

Major Twist ..... the final test is in fact current humanity starting at year 1000bc

[@voidessentials]

as humans become more at risk of extinction, they're more likely to become desperate and forego their past preferences. this allows them to become equals, at the very least, to the machines, which only wish to enjoy the human spontaneity that machines are incapable of.

[@abelincoln8885]

But you failed to see the huge plot hole ... or twist ... in Season 4. There is no way Bernard could simulate all possible outcomes over 23 years .... because he entered the Sublime not knowing about Hale turning & taking over Delos with Host William, what Dolores, Maeve & Caleb did to Serac, Maeve & Caleb becoming resistance fighters, Caleb having a child, Caleb & Maeve dying ... and all the Hosts & Human choices. The only way Bernard could know all possible outcomes .... for Hales World ... is if Hale had capture him & Stubbs and put them in a Sim. We all assumed Bernard returned from the Sublime to the real world 23 years later .... and it made no sense that they were not discovered, Stubbs was all healed and the room is all dusty. Remember Bernard asked Stubbs why didn't clean up the room, and Stubbs falsely said Bernard told him not to touch anything? Season 4 had to be entirely Hale's simulation ... to try to fix the mess she had made of the World. Otherwise it a huge plothole ... because there's no way Bernard could know Charlotte killed Maeve & Caleb, and Caleb had a daughter Hale may have killed the entire human race ... or is about too due to the MIB turning into a maniac .. and she is trying to save what's left or rebuilt with human hosts.

[@nemomarc7841]

HBO has canceled of the best series 😡 WESTWORLD again, there will be no season 5, even if this cancellation was predictable! the last shot of the last episode Dolores returns to Westworld Park. The circle is already complete season 4 felt the end of this story. After the Raised by wolves series they remove WESTWORLD the two best SF series.

[@meggi8048]

my understanding of ww4 ending was that ww2-4 actually never happend and where just a simulation. or 1-4 actually already were a simulation ran in the computer.

[@DaliborSavic]

I don't agree. I think season 3 is better than 4th...4th was just lame...

[@Daniel-lq5qq]

Yeah it was mediocre at best Not many Story Twist and predictable did Not felt Like Westworld but still enjyoable because of quality and actors

[@thomasbayer2832]

Definitely! Season 3 was epic. Totally depicted today's society and big data algorithms. Mainstream audience too dumb to grasp its meaning. Ironically the true story of westworld and the fallacy of people.

[@EdwardLindon]

Isn't Host William a successful human/host hybrid?

[@scpatl4now]

I think she will bring young William back, but to see how he turns out if he is not subject to the trauma that he endured to make him The Man in Black. The same could be said for other characters she could bring back. Humans (and to a degree hosts), are products of their past experiences. What would William be without his past trauma?

[@briggs4884]

Your comment just gave the idea that in the sublime park we are going to have William vs man in black in a confront your future kind of thing. Like how in season 1 you were lead to believe everything was happening at the same time except this time it will be. I bet its going to be a hodge podge of story lines and ears all playing out at the same time.

[@DanielBevisDesign]

Frankie and the rest of the outlier humans are done and gone, imho [the former, and Caleb, only being around to show the good in humanity]. Delores literally states that 'sentient life on earth has ended' in the S4 finale. The mind data that she has of all the hosts and humans via Westworld and that big data machine, I agree, will have a successful test lead to a hybrid species of the two, coming back to Earth [Host and Humans are dead as separate species now, I think]. AKA final season will be like robots creating man [coming full circle to Season 1 being the inverse]

[@RadPuppies]

Hoover dam will eventually fail, and power loss we know erases everything in the sublime.

[@robinho1978.]

I think they said 100 years without maintenance but remember time passes differently in the sublime….Aketcheta tells Bernard that 1 year in the real world is like a 1000 years in the sublime which is more than enough time for Delores to run her simulation.

[@vkatmandu]

@@robinho1978. their storage facilities in the Sublime will be at full capacity or dirt will accumulate and destroy the turbines much faster. Also MIB has said that you can't fix eons of evolution with a hdd.

[@nicholasmaude6906]

I was left rather unsatisfied S4 and I thought it was weaker than S3.

[@thomasbayer2832]

Definitely!

[@MrBOOKS007]

Westworld was built for the immortals to carry on living. it was there mineral bank. plus there 3 story line i no of.

[@MightyRob1]

I still don’t get it completely - was the entire world under Gale’s control and is now the entirety of human population dead/dying in the real world?

[@saska83]

To get back Ford in fidelity test? Mmmmm, not fond of that idea since, imho, the character Ford was the least interesting for me. He is, with, MiB, the most villainous person in Westworld.

[@gc2696]

Season FIVE ? Loved the first two....then three committed hara-kiri in my living room....

[@theblackgoatofthewoods]

And now it is cancelled, because noone was watching....

[@thomasbayer2832]

A disgrace that season 5 was canceled. So many shit series drag on for ever and this masterpiece is cut short, just because mainstream audience is too dumb to grasp the true meaning. Same with the criticism on season 3. It was brilliant, but people are shit for brains. Ironically it totally reflects today society. Controlled by big data algorithms and unable to think for themselves. Fuck HBO and fuck those critics! Truly disappointing!

[@SMSimon]

It felt like they were doing Game of Thrones S08, with the absolute high of The Long Night (one of the best, if not the best and no, I don't complain about the dark scenes). Then it was followed by the worst finale it could have come to. As in, WW episode 7 was the peak of the last 2 seasons, and episode 8 was such a downer that I have little interest in anything else they do with the franchise. It's such an absolute horrible letdown!

[@abelincoln8885]

The last two seasons of GoT were complete garbage ... from Dumb & Dumber. Those tow clowns ... know the Ahzor Ahai is the Three heads of the Dragon: Tyyrion, Daeny & Jon. Daeny was suppose to die North of the Wall after taking the Throne in Winter ... and be the first of the dragon riders to die. Cersei was also suppose to die by Jaime's hands by going Mad Queen. Jon was suppose to marry Sansa with them knowing that Jon is a Targaryan & they are cousins .. so Jon can remain the King of the North. Tyrions knowing his the bastard brother of Daeny takes the Throne but he too dies. Jon is the Last Hero and takes the Throne, defeats the Knight King but also dies ... Leaving Sansa with child ruling the new Kingdom. Daeny going nuts was a ludicrous notion that only D&D could come up with. Daeny was suppose to die rescuing Jon ... her nephew not lover ... from the whytes. And Cersei was already suppose to be dead by then. But those idiot Producers ... did everything that could to keep Daeny & Cersei alive ... with the most ridiculous scenarios. Remember Deany & Drogon on the ground in front of the Knight King. She's the only dragon rider on the biggest Dragon right in front the King ... and who does the King decide to kill. The smallest dragon of course who belongs to Tyrion ... flying high in the sky. And the King expertly kills that little dragaon. Only then does he looks menacingly at Daeny. lol. A mysteriously misses the largest Dragon with many men on it. Idiots. As for WW. Season 4 is entirely Hales Simulation ... otherwise it has the mother of all plotholes. There is no way in hell that Bernard could do simulation of all possible outcomes ... when he went into the sublime not knowing Hale took over Delos with the host William, hales flies & towers plan, Hale killing Caleb & Maeve, what Dolores, Maee & Caleb did to Serac, and Calebs life and daughter. Hale must have captured Bernard & Stubbs in that 23 year period. Bernard never told Stubbs not to touch anything and Stubbs was dying in the tub of ice. Again. Huge plot hole ... or ... great twist.

[@GlennHeston]

I was under the impression that there wouldn't be a season 5.

[@captsam54]

lol, e all are Human Hosts.... this and every time around...

[@gregoryjones5936]

I don't see S05, everybody's DEAD, that's why...

[@anthonyelwick3600]

I would be really happy if the show was over. This last season was meh.

[@Imsar53]

Westworld is dead... I don't want Ford in Season 5 because I know they will ruin that character too... Nolan I am pretty sure left and his wife and J.J. Abram cronies now write this stupid lame show.

[@briggs4884]

I want a Delores ford scene where its ford doing his ford thing and then Delores reveals that shes actually in control and Anthony Hopkins is quick to realize the situation he’s in but also be proud of his creation.

[@brttny]

So why keep giving it your energy

[@Imsar53]

@@brttny When you dislike something and it goes to shit... I wouldn't care... But when you love something and this happens... You at least want to know how things end... That's why.

[@stevieaa1919]

This show has been garbage for 2 seasons straight now? Watch DARK!

[@thomasbayer2832]

You are garbage.

[@ncandy1111]

Put this series to rest, it is done. Last episode was horrible.

[@Boxman-GG]

The new season was horrible this show is trash now