WGU Masters in Cybersecurity degree has just changed 👀

[@TocoAndKdog]

Just wanted to give you a quick thank you Cameron. Just started my Pre-WGU journey 4 days ago after getting nowhere at a local community college for over 3 years. Using your videos along with joshes videos I have been able to get 30 out of the 120 credits for the IT General degree that I am shooting for at WGU. For reference, I have only earned 30 credits IN TOTAL at my community college prior to this, and I just passed that in 4 days. Going to keep grinding out these classes and hopefully enroll in July! Thanks for the inspiration and guidance.

[@CameronEvolved]

Nice! Keep up the good work and good luck on your degree!

[@bradrickrobinson7452]

Yeah, I looked into WGU before watching this video and I was also shocked about the ISC2 CC Certification for a Master's Degree Program. Yes, ISC2 was giving that certification + training away for free to include one year of being an ISC2 Associate. If you have an ounce of knowledge about cybersecurity, you can easily complete it in about a week. I went through the course but didn't pursue the certification because I was about gaining knowledge and not acquiring something that is worth less than a CompTIA Security+ certification. The real estate on your resume or on any platform is valuable, so you want to at least try to add the best of the best whenever you possibly can. Thanks again for the video!!!

[@stefanblack-walker5016]

Well a Masters program needs at least one entry level class for people changing fields or returning back to school. So CC is probably that entry for those who need it. The rest sounds good. Thanks for the great videos!

[@CameronEvolved]

I've recently talked to some people who are considering getting this new degree that have little to no experience in IT, so that's a good point. They should have at least 1 entry level class. I still think the CC certification is a little too entry level for this degree, but then again I haven't taken the exam myself, so it might be more challenging and useful than I think it is.

[@UnfilteredCactus]

Thank you for summarizing alot of information in one video

[@user-kr9wy9oo5s]

Solid video. Glad I am a CISM, the only cert that satisfies two courses. I suspect I'll get this program done in about a month.

[@JohnJohn-sf1df]

I started the MSCSIA on May 1st. I'm sticking to the OLD program. Thankfully, I have that option.

[@efemboygg]

Hi so I'm moving onto this program in July. Wanted to say that for the Certificate in Cybersecurity, the class can be transferred out if you already have both the security+ and network+. so anyone who's done one of the Technology BS degrees should have both of those covered except computer science and software engineering(I think)

[@ultravioletiris6241]

I had a feeling they would do this. The old one was stinky

[@UnfilteredCactus]

I just found this out today and now I'm going to start sooner than later

[@jake81823]

I've been stuck in their enrollment process since September. Was going to knock out 3 courses with my certifications, but credly showed my CISSP as expired which was incorrect. Got that corrected and have never been able to get them to do the reevaluation. Then I see they are changing the curriculum!!! Thanks for the heads up man, I'm trying to see if they'll still let me come in under the old program.

[@CameronEvolved]

It doesn't hurt to ask, but it's my understanding that anyone starting on June 1st or later will have to take the new degree. Good luck though!

[@jake81823]

@Cameron Evolved thanks! I asked if they can make an exception and have a meeting with them next Friday so hopefully it can work out!

[@mablerice3581]

Great information 🎉🎉

[@user-my9gu1dr1p]

I just finished the Bachelor's and already have all the certs they just moved into the Master's, so I think I'll have only 5 classes to complete Master's when I start on June 1. Great news if you want to do a Madakor-style speed run, but I think the value of the Master's has just tanked for returning students.

[@CameronEvolved]

From the talk I had with an enrollment counselor last month, you don't have to transfer in all of your Bachelor's certifications if you don't want to... unless the class requires that cert to pass the class. In this case, I think you'll have to transfer the CySA+ and Pentest+ because I think they're required to pass D484 and D483. You shouldn't have to transfer in your Network+ and Security+ so you can still take D481. D488 and D489's optional certifications are not a part of the Bachelor's degree. So for you... I'd say best case scenario, you can still take 8 of 10 classes if you want. I didn't consider that some people might actually want to take all of the courses though so I understand what you're saying.

[@JonnyTec]

This is interesting because I am almost done with the BS and was thinking the same thing. 5 classes for a Masters? Sign me in Coach! 🤣

[@user-my9gu1dr1p]

@@JonnyTec so I went ahead and enrolled in the MS as a returning student, and had my transcripts brought over from my BSCSIA. There are 10 classes total and I was able to clear 3 of them with the certs I brought over. I am scheduled for a total of 7 classes starting June 1.

[@JonnyTec]

@Shelly Bailey wow, only 3? Thats crazy. Could you tell me which are those 7? Im hoping to finish in Jan and might roll over to the MS Right away.

[@user-my9gu1dr1p]

@@JonnyTec yep, the Net+ and Sec+ combined cleared D481 Security Foundations (or you can transfer in SSCP), the CySA+ cleared D483 Security Operations and the PenTest+ cleared out D484 Penetration Testing. You can also transfer in CASP and CISM if you have those to clear out two other classes, Cyber Architecture and Engineering and Cyber Management (I don’t have those certs yet, so I’ll just take the classes instead).

[@DuitLikeThis]

Well i dont mind this change

[@marcoferreira3718]

Man I would love to just pick your brain on things about WGU I’m looking to start in July in the BS software engineering

[@Theinsomniac826]

Thanka. I saw that on Reddit this morning.

[@CameronEvolved]

Yeah, that's how I found out about the changes too. I usually hear about new updates from Reddit before I hear them from WGU.

[@lololololololol444]

Grat video, Thanks man!

[@burgbored102]

CISM and CASP are good certs, wish the CEH was still in the program tho - either bachelors or masters. It dominates jobs boards

[@kawaiiphotobooth3248]

Hehe Cameron thank you for the video I find it very helpful for me as someone trying to do a pivot from healthcare to IT. For this MsCSIA , when you said the certificate that comes with this master program. do I have to take those certification individually while also doing the ten courses ? Like so I have to find the test center , figure out the testing schedule and take all the individual? Just a bit confused there

[@CameronEvolved]

Assuming you're not transferring in any credits, you'll have to pass the CompTIA CySA, Pentest+ and the (ISC)² CC certifications in order to get your degree. You should be able to take the CompTIA exams from home if you want, but you'll have to take the (ISC)² CC certification at a testing center.

[@TetrisAddiction]

Considering changing to the new. ISC CC is definitely a strange choice, even stranger is that Sec+ alone doesn’t replace it- you need both Net+ and Sec+. Either way- taking ISC CC tomorrow because it is free and I am 96% sure I’ll pass without much studying (just took Sec+ last week).

[@CameronEvolved]

Good luck!

[@anix9549]

That's kind of a joke that ISC2 CC is a certification in a Masters program. Thats super entry level and a slap in the face to CISSP's like myself. Hell CISSP should be a requirement for a Masters degree program.

[@lhodges8106]

Cringe bro

[@Rell-eu8wv]

A masters program doesn’t necessarily mean that you have extensive experience working in particular field. They need to have at least one entry-level foundational class for those professionals looking to switch careers. I just competed the MSCIA at WGU and I found it to be a pretty good program

[@neonaqua4279]

Whoa, so for someone that has no certifications we need to schedule and take a separate exam for those outside of WGU to pass said classes? Reference 2:55 mark

[@CameronEvolved]

That's right.

[@neonaqua4279]

@@CameronEvolved thanks for clearing that up, it sounds like that can complicate the time for finishing the degree since you can only move onto the next class after finishing what’s listed in order.

[@davidj6588]

Currently in the bachelor's program for cyber security and information assurance. Working on project+ now. Any study tips on how to complete the program ahead of schedule?

[@lcooper39]

Bruh, I took the IBM cybersecurity analyst through credly and coursea WGU didn’t accept it, but it cool. I’ve been listening to your videos and it seems you are saying as long as you got the basics you’ll be ok plus I been doing this 23 years in the military.

[@CameronEvolved]

Yeah. As long as you know the basics, it's achievable. I think it's more important to be consistent with studying than it is to be an expert in everything going in. They'll give you all the material you need to pass.

[@ausdlantein]

hey cameron one question i am planning to study computer science on wgu, what are the classes can i take on sophia for credi transfer, thanks. or which one you recomend me to take it first.

[@Jay_twelve]

Great video! Any thoughts on WGU vs Georgia Tech’s program?

[@CameronEvolved]

I think both are good degrees. GA Tech allows you choose a specialization within Cybersecurity, so you can focus more on what you want to learn. WGU comes with industry recognized certifications and they'll definitely help you stand out in your career.

[@tmac9208]

I feel like if you have A+, Net+, Sec+ they really ought to give you a pass on the CC. Its super boring to go through this junk all over again.

[@tmac9208]

Also if you have the CCSP from the BS they should hit up MS with at least SSCP to kick the one year for CCSP. Basically the MS ought to build on the BS. duh not start over..

[@Techcram]

If you have a non tech bachelors degree in Psychology, and no work experience in the field, is it even worth getting a masters degree in cybersecurity?

[@freedombearreviews2548]

All of your studies and case studies and assignments will satisfy previous work experience for potential employers. You will include those on the work history part of your resume and list the class. I am currently working with professional career developers and this is the direction I was given for my new bachelors degree. It’s all worth getting if you want it, from psychology to IT, you would have plenty of options. I hope that helps moving forward.

[@eriksalmon]

What certifications are part of what classes? I just got my degree plan, but it doesn't show the certifications.

[@CameronEvolved]

D481 (Security Foundations) - ISC2 CC D483 (Security Operations) - CompTIA CySA+ D484 (Penetration Testing) - CompTIA Pentest+ I think D488 gives you the optional CompTIA CASP+ voucher and D489 gives you the optional ISACA CISM voucher, but I can't remember.

[@dorianturner8461]

Thanks for this info

[@alexanderrodriguez4125]

Do you actually need to complete the certificates in order to pass the class or is it optional?

[@jaynoel3095]

Hey Cameron, has the Cloud computing degree ever peaked your interest?

[@CameronEvolved]

No, but I think the one at WGU is a good degree. I just don't plan on getting a 2nd bachelors.

[@MsEssance]

I don’t have any professional experience in IT or cyber security, and I’m interested in this program. What type of certification should I consider while I take this program?

[@emmanuelkehinde2503]

Please help clarify this. Does it mean that if i have my CySA+ certification, that will automatically suffice for one of the masters courses? I won't have to take the class or course again, right?

[@CameronEvolved]

That's right. As long as it's not expired, you shouldn't have any problems transferring it into WGU before you start your degree.

[@emmanuelkehinde2503]

@@CameronEvolved thank you so much for this clarification!

[@MyGuyNoob]

Will this sway your decision to get the MBA ITM?

[@CameronEvolved]

I still think I'm going to do the MBA ITM this year.

[@lonelydeathmask]

Did these changes sway you or are you still pursuing MBA?

[@CameronEvolved]

My employer will pay for my certifications, so I think I'll do the MBA at WGU and get the certifications that would've come with the new degree separately.

[@johnkowalkowski4439]

Why did they take out security +?

[@CameronEvolved]

Do you mean getting the security+ as part of the degree or transferring in the security+? It was never included as part of the masters degree, but still in the bachelors degree.

[@marmar3214]

what's the difference between the bachelor and the master

[@CameronEvolved]

The bachelors has a lot more classes than the masters (34 vs 11). It comes with different certifications too (although some are the same like the Pentest+ and CySA+).

[@marmar3214]

@@CameronEvolved now I am studying bachelor degree in computer science when I finish should I do bachelor degree in cyber security or masters

[@OrlandoJunkHaulers]

@@marmar3214 masters duh

[@tonyjovan1885]

Can you take the old WGU programs with CEH because the new certs are shit and they change the because these certifications is a lot cheater lol.

[@tsume246]

EC council is beyond garbage lol

[@tonyjovan1885]

@@tsume246 your crazy it has alot recognition

[@jamesriley7505]

Did the bachelors program change?

[@CameronEvolved]

I think it's been a month or two since the last major update to the bachelors degree.