What a New Fully Engineered Python MK 2 Ship Looks Like In Elite Dangerous Odyssey - What Can It Do?

So what can a fully engineered Python MK 2 do In Elite Dangerous? I took this pre-built ship package and fully engineered it to see just how powerful the new Python MK 2 really is in Elite Dangerous Odyssey. What can the Python MK 2 do well in Elite Dangerous? The Python MK 2 is really good as is but once you add engineering to her she becomes an absolute beast! For PVE anyways.
For PVP you really want to get plasmas or rails really without any kind of gimbal support. If you try to use the Python MK2 against a skilled player with said pvp weapons and you use the default pre-built loadout you're getting wrecked.
If you switch out the weapons however to something better suited to do PVP in Elite Dangerous then you just might become the King of the Milky Way Galaxy.
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[@FrozenKombat]

Hey Hawkes! I’m so glad you’re back on Elite Dangerous. You’re my very favorites content creator and ai miss you. Love your video. Being thru a tough moment in life this year and almost didn’t make it. But now I see you are back and give me hope. You’re my inspiration and I’m happy you are with us! Love the new glorious Python ship, it is more like your style! Anyhow. Hoping to hear from you soon my friend. Hope everything is going great with family. Cya soon

[@HawkesGaming]

I've been through the struggles too space brother! It's good to be back!

[@Zenda_Nior]

"If you are unable help someone in life then at least dont hurt anyone". Continue being strong.

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

Great video as always. Looking forward to picking one up 7 Aug 24. A big thank you to everyone who picks it up now for keeping my game going. o7

[@BunkMastersGaming]

Full Frag Cannon Build with Prismos and lots of boosters with one resistance and one thermal. This will be one of the kings of PvP

[@JackManiacky]

It's hilarious that fdev has made the ultimate gank boat.

[@HawkesGaming]

My FDL is all frag cannons rofl.

[@MurkyDregs]

@@JackManiacky But SCO's are available to everyone now... changes the whole interdiction game. (It is an amazing gank-boat...lmao)

[@thatgregguy]

@@HawkesGamingmy FDL has frags and 2 imperial hammers with Feedback Cascade.

[@thatgregguy]

@@MurkyDregsyeah

[@nixravette]

I've got over 50k arx waiting. I just hope they surprise us with more than just the Venom Claret paintjob. It's cool, but after seeing literally everyone using it, I'm not sure I wanna. And while I'll be modifying my prebuilt, low rebuy will definitely motivate me to play more in open. Even as a multibillionaire, I hate paying big rebuys.

[@AtlasGaming4k]

Totally not pay to win. It’s pay to delay grind till you need engineering. I’m all for this change as a 3600 hour CMDR

[@barnhaardkraft875]

Frontier is also waiting for your +50k ARX, to get them Faster they Doubled the ARX Price of most Cosmetics, Shipkits, Paintjobs, Suitkits! And overall a increasese of 5 - 35% for the other Shiny Stuff in Shop! Yep, very well, the wating was worth it! 😉

[@HawkesGaming]

If Fdev didnt give me a python MK 2 for free I very likely would have bought one for myself.

[@nixravette]

@HawkesGaming I'm grinding up g5 mats now so I can engineer day 1.

[@SagittarA]

@@AtlasGaming4k technically it is still pay to win, but its the most user friendly p2w possible. ship will be purchasable in game, and its not supposed to be used against other players but simply to pve which doesnt hurt anyone (stock). i feel like creds in elite are obtainable very easily, so the only real advantage isnt the 0 cost rebuy but the engineered modules. that said im afraid we will be seeing majority of gankers using those since the rebuy is so low even after changing the modules, being one of if not the most cheap pvp ship to run.

[@kingcelaya1]

Am I the only one who uses night vision in combat? You can see them turn better.

[@HawkesGaming]

For filming purposes I don't. For play in a planet's or moon's atmosphere I do.

[@thatgregguy]

No you are not. I use it too. Good when pilots use heatsinks.

[@mostlygizzards]

You're the real Elite, Hawkes. Great vid.

[@HawkesGaming]

Thank you partner!

[@codywatt7775]

I love your videos Hawk.. not just Elite but all other games too. Thanks for entertaining us and giving us the latest scoop on whats going on. Appreciate all you do brother!

[@ArpadLukacs]

so many Hawkes videos lately, this is awesome

[@thebagfather4633]

great vid. got this ship and had some fun this morning now im going to engineer it to the max and might try some pvp ive got plenty of creds for the rebuy screen .but its a game and fun so lets do this

[@hutch45069]

Thanks for the video and welcome back.

[@erichuet4844]

Great one CMDR ! Interesting and fun as hell 😋🫡

[@HawkesGaming]

Thank you!

[@aynsleymusgrave3757]

I was going to wait getting the python MK.2 but father seeing your video here thinking about getting the Stella version and not even wait. Thank you 🙏🏻

[@kasaddams7836]

Hey Hawkes! I love the packaged ships, as a long time player who's struggled to get a lot of what I have (let alone not unlocked all the engineers etc) The packaged ships allow me to jump in and get going on hitting the stuff i've been stuck at!

[@brianschwarm8267]

I’m an elite veteran and coming back after a few years been playing since 2015. And I got to say the zero does entice me, I’m a lifetime passholder and that’s kind of the one thing I always wanted was less rebuy, it does make me want to play in open more. I play in VR with a HOTAS, and my keyboard and mouse people would always wreck me because their aim is just that much easier. I bought the standard prebuilt, but I kitted it out really well and my rebuy is only like 9 million. I’m using two super penetrator rail guns to turd in multi cannons, a beam laser and a large missile launcher with drag munitions. I’ll probably change it up here and there, but I’m having fun in elite dangerous again

[@gizmo104drives7]

Nice Hawkes!

[@zepherusomega1149]

I didn't play in open for over 2 years when I started playing. I got jumped for days in a row at the starting system and gave up. Even now I prefer playing in the AX private group. I just don't feel like dealing with someone who just wants to "pvp" against other commanders who aren't geared up for it.

[@KakavashaForever]

Welp this answers the question I asked on your other video, wow, pretty neat.

[@dantechnik]

It’s great to see you making some content again Hawke

[@HawkesGaming]

Thank you! I should be posting a lot more often.

[@thatgregguy]

#1 Elite Dangerous KZbinr with awesome information

[@cohenworrior898]

Not the first, but without a doubt the best review. Thank you cmdr. Hawkes.

[@HawkesGaming]

Thank you!

[@Commander_Sonak]

I've been playing Elite Dangerous since 2014. I will buy the prebuilt version when it becomes available. Thanks for the informative video. o7

[@HawkesGaming]

You are most welcome and thanks!

[@Edsel1134]

My wife finally is down to start playing with me once this ships out. Great opportunity for new players

[@HawkesGaming]

Okay now thats win! It's multi crew too!!

[@thatgregguy]

Fuck I wish my gf would play. You lucky.

[@mackeysasser420]

Love the new ship it's cool. I got the prebuilt but then couldn't change any of the modules so then I got the regular one too. They got some funding from me for sure lol.

[@ShinigamiAnger]

A brand new player will never get those emotions and excitement of getting the first viper or the first cobra. They ruin the initial experience for themselves imo, while also missing the valuable learning that you can make on a small ship. But it is what it is, have fun everyone.

[@Youda00008]

Why do you think that every new player will instantly buy the pre-built Python?

[@ShinigamiAnger]

@@Youda00008 have I said that EVERY new player will buy this? I was of course referring to a new player who is buying it

[@Youda00008]

@@ShinigamiAnger Well, then it's up to the player to decide what is his best or most enjoyable way of starting the game. I'm sure there will be guides and recommendations for the beginning.

[@ShinigamiAnger]

@@Youda00008 why do you feel the urge to state the obvious? Of course it is their choice, but they will skip those initial feelings and that is undeniable. I'm not saying that it's wrong or anything, please stop trolling

[@Youda00008]

@@ShinigamiAnger Your first comment seemed like you would rather remove the new Python and take away this possibility of quicker start from the new players

[@RomanRusWeb]

Imagine if they would allow creators like you to design the ship with all the engineering and put it in store, and then you would get some commissions if ship sells, even if it is in arx.

[@Kellett781]

Absolute best sales pitch for this mk2 thus far Hawkes and 100% of the reason why I will be buying one. I never ever play in open because while I’m a seasoned player with billions in credits, I absolutely despise having my time and credits wasted because some rando asshat decides my ship is a target. Being able to play in open with nearly zero consequences to the whims of the dregs of elite sounds like a win to me that is worth a few bucks.

[@supasneaks]

Love your videos! I would like to come back and play Elite but I don't have Odyssey - can I still get away without it or do I need it? I heard trading data was more difficult to sort through because Horizon has separate data but I actually don't know. Thanks!

[@HawkesGaming]

If you have the ability to get Odyssey do it. Youre main reason for doing so would be having access to valid 3rd party information you really need to play the game. Secondary would be access to on foot stuff and third access to the python mk 2 much earlier than in august sometime.

[@supasneaks]

@@HawkesGaming Thanks!

[@OGmujrim]

Great video cmdr!!! As a veteran player, I don't think ships sold for cash are P2W, unless they start selling fully engineered ships. Even then, piloting skills are still a big factor so the P2W claims are somewhat of a stretch. The only thing I disagree with is not making the ship available for credits at the same time as it hits the ARX store.

[@HawkesGaming]

I can agree about releasing the ship for arx and credits at the same time.

[@chris57035]

I'm no noob, and I'd consider buying one of these just so I didn't have to go through the faff of figuring out WHERE TO BUY MY MODULES. Because even doing that in Elite can be so opaque that it basically requires INARA.

[@HawkesGaming]

Gettling Elite status in anything so you can goto shinarata is key.

[@OrderOfOmphalos]

If you have an Elite rank: Jameson Memorial (station) in Shinrarta Dezhra. If not: I Sola Prospect (Planetary station) on planet A 1 in the Brestla system.

[@chris57035]

@@OrderOfOmphalos Yeah I know. I usually bounce between Lembava and Diaguandri for the LYR price bonus. What I just wanted to emphasize is how hard the game makes it just to even buy your kit for your ship. I wouldn't mind the "realism" of not every station having every module if there was an in-game way to actually FIND what you're looking for.

[@trexeyesonly55]

​@HawkesGaming still game doesn't tell you that.. If inara will stop the service what will happen to the game?

[@trexeyesonly55]

There shuold be in game delivery option for ship modules. You may request delivery of your ship to any location at a cost right? Why modules cannot be delivered in the same way

[@beechlinbeauty]

Here's a challenge for you... I'm still a beginner here with about 500 hours in and have earnt 3B after many, many hours of Pirate stacking missions in res sites and a load of trading runs (back and forth - back and forth - back and forth till my eyes started to bleed!). I have No engineering, thats right Nada, Niks nothing. It's a grind i just haven't been able to face yet. Still... it'd be nice to add a MK 2 and try it out.... (PvE - no way i'm good enough for PvP). Every "Tuber" is showing off their Mega Engineerd builds of the MK 2 and why not? If you have the zillion hours of grind plus the Gazillion space bucks to spend then it's what i would be doing aswell. But - what about those of us without carriers, without the means and materials to engineer and tweak the internals to make the MK2 into something that really flies....? On the stock build the MK 2 is crammed to the gills, there's no power left to use, there is no Fuel scoop and no range to travel anywhere. There's also no supercruis assist and no docking computer. How about a build that's aimed at the less advanced, something we can also play with and whoop! Needs to be affordable and also usable, as in being able to travel under it's own power from system to system and being able to stand a chance in a fight. That'd be a video guide i'd like to see 🙂

[@TSPxEclipse]

I'm not a PvP type of person when it comes to any kind of open-world game. I would much rather be able to meet commanders out in the black while not having to worry about if they're going to turn my ship into a debris cloud. I play Elite for the immersion and to wind down from work, doing a lot of mining and full system scanning with the occasional trade or PvE combat to break the monotony. I want to play open, but not if it means I have to play a specific way with a specific ship using specific loadouts just to stand a chance against other players.

[@jacobliefeld9248]

Frankly, if this ship had even slightly superior internals, it would probably make for a vastly superior AX ship.

[@arkentantix]

Right on point with ptw questions Hawkes me ole mate - ... and , if it revalues risk vs reward for new players streaming more people into open (Hooray) - this might influence greater investment into the platform from FDv. Open new Battleship battles next for factions?

[@HawkesGaming]

You know with the changes coming to powerplay 2.0 I can see this happening.

[@knightforces8048]

I don't mind the pre-pack ship for real money, it will be annoying to wait the 2-3 month to buy it with credits. What I would like is a way to change ship load out faster, I mean give the carriers the possibility to have pre -pack load outs of our ships and linked to module in storage on the carrier.

[@HawkesGaming]

What I am really hoping for especially with the ARX price increases on things is that commander can earn more than 400 per week.

[@OrderOfOmphalos]

2-3 months? Do you need help learning how to make money? Can get a hundred million or more just by doing exobiology..... in just a couple hours...

[@charleyboy74]

God dam, i find it so hard going back into this game after 700+ hours , the update progress on this game is truly terrible, Still cant believe after Odyssey, we are still stepping into that blue circle and enter into PS1 style Resident Evil room changing, then you are sat in your chair. Give us access to walk around are ships and the I'm running back into this game big time

[@thebigsad5402]

Is the A rated SC0 fsd only for the python mk2 or will a rated versions come out for all ships? Also can I not get this ship because I dont own Odyssey just live 4.0?

[@leonardomiotti3181]

this ship its only for odyssey !

[@Sighman]

The ship will be available for an ARX unlock (only) in Live.

[@thebigsad5402]

@Sighman I got it. So available to both in ARX store. What about the A rated fsd SCO? Is that only available to the Python, or are all ships getting A rated SCO'S?

[@christopherjohnston6343]

@@thebigsad5402 Apparently all ships should have it available from next week and they'll be engineerable too - important since the 5A FSD SCO engineered is slightly better than vanilla engineered 5A FSD. The double engineered FSD is still meant to have a higher jump range though

[@Kissamiess]

@@christopherjohnston6343 Can't be sure if test server stats will be on final product, but if they will, my fleet is going to need a huge overhaul. Though if they are just slightly worse jumpers, I'm still going to switch many of my ships over.

[@akiraic]

wait, you get free rebuy and get the engineering you did with it?! holy...

[@matthewcaughey8898]

I see this as a way to buy the ship you really really want, then build your dream ship into a monster.

[@thatgregguy]

Can’t wait to see what other shops they will release. Waiting till August for this ship. When the P MK II came out some idiot in this ship tried to gank my IEagle at Farseer Inc on Deciat right as I was taking off. They were waiting to get the quick gank. They failed to get me and I regrouped and went after them. They ended up running away from my Imperial Eagle. I couldn’t believe it.

[@beltis1gaming967]

I'm so behind on engineering after transfer fron Playstation. I can't wait to fly the Mk 2 though

[@HawkesGaming]

Soon we will need less mats to do the engineering. I'm not sure if they plan on changing how we collect them though. Meaning not needing to reload to be effective.

[@pierre-yvesdurand6749]

Question is ,when internet August it will be available do we will buy on stations the same pre-built python with credits or only available pay by money

[@jimby812]

It will be available in game for credits in August

[@pierre-yvesdurand6749]

@@jimby812 my 2nd question is which other prebuilt ships will be available like corvette Anaconda etc...,and if someone could make understand to frontier that to make the game attractive they have to understand that's exploiration game we don't want to spend months to got money to buy ships and equipment and reach elite rank to got Shinrarta system permit but like in old game Freelancer which is excellent a scenario with a story main mission would be the welcome but at univers scale and being able to access to event easily without gather billions to buy fleet carrier to jump far for boose cruise at precise time to earn billions or being obliged to play mmo mod to be able to destroy thargoid titans and to have tested many space games the piloting gameplay isn't fluid enough and logical and many bugs during combat that cost the loss of your ship and pay 20 millions to reby it many insane things to correct to have pleasant game, and adapt odyssey to consoles to go out the cockpit walk in stations etc...

[@rst872]

all im saying is...........frags lots of frags

[@HawkesGaming]

My FDL is basically all frags muwahaha!

[@cmdr501generalvenator3]

from the perspective of the ganker its a lot of fun to oneshot newbiewinders

[@Kissamiess]

Holy struggling distributor, Batman! My rule of the thumb for Bi-Weave shields is that if the distributor isn't larger than it, use the lo-draw experimental on the shield. Dunno what to do for the weapons. Maybe use efficient on all of the Multi-Cannons except the one with corrosive, which should be high capacity.

[@JackManiacky]

This ship begs for frags

[@Kissamiess]

@@JackManiacky Indeed. Unless I get it for AX, which is a little unlikely because of low room and small distro, I'll slap my Pacifiers to it.

[@brentkeller3826]

I'm an explorascrub, so I haven't been able to engineer anything yet. Been busy tooling around in my asp exploder might grab it for pve. Unless it can be an explorer somehow. I admit that I stay far away from open.

[@Fabio_5oares]

I wonder if this glorious ship can be built to fight Thargoids

[@HawkesGaming]

You can add any module you want and then engineer it on these pre-builts. I'm sure it will be a thargoid killer as well. Just not with the MC's and pulses.

[@y_ffordd]

Tony and Ethan's little brother back on Elite? Yeh Im tempted to spend a handful of euros on it just to see what the SCO is like, but then do I have time to do it justice or will I gain the remaining ARX quickly anyway, if only I was Indiana Jones, he had no problem achieving maximum ARX.

[@thatgregguy]

Hawks Gaming… you forgot about Frags!

[@lightwoven5326]

4 pips in shields does not speed up recharge, only affects resistances.

[@HawkesGaming]

talking recharge of distributor power bro...

[@stevenboughner7255]

Just picked up a stock Python MK 2 and thinking about how to build her. Pay to win it is and it isn't. It depends who's flying. New player going up against a Vet, who flys with flight assist off who will win?

[@gubernator46]

Zero Rebuy in Elite is like buying an Victoria Secret Bra for your flat chested girl friend

[@aigarskauls9200]

I do see myself buying a ship to just fool around or learn something in game without paying the cost can be nice. Do i see the ships as P2W ... no if they give FULLY engineered ships(weapons shields ect) then i might have a problem. only thing i would not have is FSD.

[@Anthony-fk2zu]

Wild shield stats on this thing.

[@HawkesGaming]

Yeah it just cant be a hull tank at all though really. It basically means AX in this thing is risky really with Thargoid weapons piercing shields.

[@SixStringflyboy]

Deleted my previous comment because I wanted to check the ARX store again just to be sure, but I don't see the new pre-built ships available. Yes, I do own Odyssey.

[@HawkesGaming]

The easiest way to see the pre-builts is to log into Elite up to the Main Menu Screen. Click on Game Extras then click on Pre-Built Ships. You can see and purchase if you like from there.

[@ixxilus3684]

How did you get access to it? It's not out yet.

[@HawkesGaming]

Elite partner early access to test out the ship. It'll be available for pre purchase on the 7th of may in the ARX store or bought in game with credits in August.

[@ixxilus3684]

@@HawkesGaming ah makes sense.

[@wmgthilgen]

Just as engineering a ship for extremly long jumps when it comes to exploring is to the N-th degree different than engineering for planet exporation extremly closer to the bubble. The engineering any ship for combat with human's is to the N-th degree no where nearly the same as engineering for combat with NPC's. Thus if one using only one ship, and wanting to do some serious deep space exploring vs near bubble planet exploration, combat with human's vs combat with npc's. Must have at least four different loadout's, all consisting of slightly different engineered modual's. Add in mining or trading, and that's two more set's of modual's to engineer. Making six in total.

[@BenPara16]

Awesome ship...but, ugh. I don't like this monetization method. The free insurance should really have been applied to all ships. I lost one of my favorite ships one day because I couldn't afford insurance and one day I had to answer the door! I got back just to see my ship destroyed by a random pirate.

[@Youda00008]

Why not 5A Sensors lightweight? It provides better range/mass ratio.

[@Kissamiess]

Less range overall and more power usage. If you don't go all the way with the range and don't care about power, maybe the A lightweight would be better, tho.

[@Youda00008]

@@Kissamiess In this video he has a lot of spare power in the power plant.

[@Kissamiess]

@@Youda00008 Indeed, I find using overcharged engineering when you don't need it very weird. Probably chosen just to be sure there will be enough power as there is no EDSY or Coriolis for it yet. A weak counterpoint would be that more used power still generates more heat. Generally I agree that in this case lightweight would have been better. He probably went for the familiar solution and had that blueprint pinned.

[@HawkesGaming]

Showing keeping all the modules to keep it at 0 rebuy. That was the main intent to show how powerful it can be for pve if you keep all the modules plus engineer them.

[@EricFischnaller]

Definitely not "Pay to win" unless it was a PVP god right out of the box. Pay to get money quick is just fine. Personally I think FDev should allow people to buy in-game credits for real money as it is. Someone like me that has many Billions of credits could consider buying a B for $25-50 and not have to worry about my 24.5M / week upkeep on my carrier that supports my group of friends in our activities. Looking forward to buying the new ship early just to add it to my repertoire.

[@nafnist]

Hmm depends on what kind of pvp ur doing. Im sure ganking plebs is doable. And killing noob pirates. Not to mention killing powerplayers.

[@netwarrior1000]

Nor should it be competitive in PvP because that's when it WOULD become P2W. As these prebuilt ships stand, they're only pay to skip gameplay/grind at best, to improve starting options for new players, and I think that's FDEV's clear intent. I expect experienced players, for the most part, will see little point in using the prebuilt options and that should be as expected.

[@bobbywhite1645]

I don't understand how buying the ability to get unlimited free rebuys for cash isn't P2W. Its not so much buying a ship for cash because you can buy it for credits. Purchasing unlimited free rebuys is paying for power you can't otherwise get. Its what P2W means by definition. I think there needs to be an in game mechanic where you pay X amount of credits upfront to have unlimited free insurance on a ship or item if they are going with this "no death penalty at all for cash upfront" route with the game.

[@HawkesGaming]

pay to win if you want to be king of solo play. If you think you can take a Stellar MK2 pre-built and fight against any commander who kinda knows what their doing with rails, plasmas, or shotguns they will destroy that zero rebuy 100% of the time. There would be no way to pay to win your way out of a paper bag if you decide to keep all components in open. Every single one you change ups the rebuy. If you want a chance to fight back you need to change all the weapons. That ups the rebuy cost considerably.

[@seekertarakonna3569]

First , let's start with, thank you for the video...awesome job. (As always). Iam total against allow the new hype, fdev has come out with this yr.(so far). Sry guys I just don't trust fdev to anything right.(to many burns from pass promise). This video makes me want to buy pyton mk2,,BUT we still have a problem ? The fuxing grind for upgrades. Can we just fix that. It would really fix almost all of what is wrong with Elite dangerous .. Just saying..

[@HawkesGaming]

I did reach out to fdev about the future engineering changes. They will be reducing the grind on that end for sure. Although i did recommend they make it to where us as commanders dont need to play a reloading simulator to farm them effectively.

[@robdfar]

is it in game ?

[@HawkesGaming]

Can be purchased from the ARX store for 16250 for Odyssey owners on the 7th of May.

[@ScottSlooper]

It's P2W. It's real money that some people don't have, for a ship that can blow up those people or do PvE that they can't do as well. But it's optional P2W. I stopped playing over it, because I'm an extremist about P2W, it plays on psychological weaknesses similarly to gambling. TY for this great video.

[@brokenweltall]

A crappy prebuilt ship is not P2W lmao. Move on if you're an ex-CMDR, quit being a salty edgelord

[@y_ffordd]

@@brokenweltall Whats a hedge lord? a hedge lurker or an owner of a hedge who gets irate when others misuse their hedge? And then what about people with 3D headsets and top of the range computers, are they not P2W too? but I agree with Scotty if this turns out to be a great top tier PVPer, but it probably wont so Im not fussed either way. Well done for standing up for what you believe though Scotty.

[@theplague4u]

You can buy it with in store credits that can be earned so no it’s not pay to win. I have like 20k store credits because I never use it. Never had to pay for anything. P2W means you cannot get it without using real money which is not the case here. For an extremist about P2W you know very little.

[@blackcobra8849]

I will buy prebuilt, just to keep elite Dangerous from going under. We just have to wait for frontier to catch up and pass star citizen.They can do it, they just need to stop being lazy. Frontier need to update the shader graphics, create walk thur your ship to vehicle and cargo area and change FPS hand held ballistic , plasma gun . WE DONT NEED PERSONAL SHIELDS JUST MORE ARMOR HIT POINT.

[@Zenda_Nior]

The p2w aspect in this case is only relevant among the noobs, new players. So the new player with the deep pockets vs the no pockets, will get ahead faster. End game is not affected in a detrimental way.

[@godofm3tal1]

And no, having zero rebuy doesn't make playing in open any more viable. It's still my time that gets wasted and it's a hassle I don't need to endure. There's a reason games like these never really take off, and why player retention is always shit. Players complain about why new players aren't coming to the game and won't stick around. The same people foam at the mouth sitting in Chamberlains looking to club seals on sight. ED will forever have it's 2-3k player per day average because of that.

[@jomorim]

It won't make me play in open because I really have no interest in online games, but I'm definitely getting this in August.

[@CarBENbased]

Yes, it's pay to win by definition. And, hear me out, while i don't have a problem with people who have more money than time spending it to enhance their entertainment, I DO have a problem with how it will affect design decisions by Fdev. Elite is already a grindy game, as evidence by the fact that much of this channel and elite content as a whole is dedicated to information on how to relieve that grind. If this program is successful Fdev will have no incentive to design things in a way that makes the game more fun vs making it a choice between being a chore or pulling out your wallet.

[@braylonmaverick2617]

I would be excited, but I'm on Xbox.

[@Tamburello_1994]

Grow up.

[@braylonmaverick2617]

@@Tamburello_1994 Ah, jeepers. The KZbin censor deities didn't allow my original comment. It was fairly blunt, since you seem mentally limited. Well, KZbin has protected you from my comment, so you won't be bruised, little one.

[@braylonmaverick2617]

@@Tamburello_1994 Oh my, a fanboy! Is it true that your favorite soda-pop is Mountain Dew?

[@Tamburello_1994]

@@braylonmaverick2617 Ask your mother as it was "buy one get one free" night.

[@bloodwing9597]

We did get cosmetics price increase,so there's that,lol

[@garrydavey5942]

hell yeah 4X PA TC 2x rails, or even 6 Flachette

[@HawkesGaming]

exactly lol muwahahaha!

[@godofm3tal1]

Gankers are garbage. Imagine spending years playing the game to outfit your ship to be able to kill anything if only you actually had any skill, but choosing instead to use your accumulated wealth to go kill things that couldn't kill you if you went afk for 10 minutes. It's like playing an MMO and getting to max level but then going back to the level 1 zone and clapping frogs and shit. Ganking is "PVP" as much as shooting up a hospital is "warfare". It's not combat if your opponent can't put up a fight. It's sociopathic assault.

[@raf_1987]

Same story here. 2016 : one hour in the game, learning keys and how to move around, never seen a single other human controlled ship yet. Boom, interdicted by two guys, (you don't even know what interdiction is at this point) and of course instakilled. 2024 : 3200 hours in the game, I have never played "open" in the bubble since then. I am not even afraid of getting killed, I could just boost and jump away, but the wasted time caused by the interdiction is just not worth it. Maybe some day Fdev will be smart enough to make "PVP oriented" and "PVE only" servers, instead of solo and open. Dream on...

[@josefodium8888]

Disappointed to see you all in on pay2win. Personally, I’m with Yamiks on this one (kind of a rare occurrence BTW). It’s sad and kills all the mood to even launch ED. New players will not know the rebuy even exists. Their struggle will be with controls and flying without spinning. And their first PVE experience will get them killed even if you’ll give them an engineered Cutter. More to the point, how many new players there even are in ED? With a reputation stinking to High Heaven, ED is definitely not something new people gravitate to. After the Odyssey flopped, I've got in a habit of gifting ED to my friends every time it went on sale (about 10 copies in total). Only a single one of them even launched it (and was completely out in about two hours). And it’s not like none of them liked space sims. They just didn’t like Fdev and ED’s grindy nature. As for the Paythone-II. Firstly, only a subset of existing player base (that is tolerant to pay2win) will buy it. Secondly as a “0 rebuy” it will be mainly used to ruin the day of new players and traders alike. So, something completely opposite of what Fdev is trying to present it as.

[@AtlasGaming4k]

Worry less about others and more about why you feel entitled.

[@josefodium8888]

@@AtlasGaming4k Entitled to what exactly? Hadn’t asked a thing of Fdev or Hawkes for that matter. Or is it just another strawman day already? Not approving of someone’s actions is called an opinion FYI. And considering their results in the past number of years, my opinion on Fdev moving in the wrong direction is spot on.

[@jasser1066]

Great to see you on elite again. Hopefully chat soon. Now where did I put patreon ❤ great video man.

[@pauloantoniolyons8171]

TOXIC is TOXIC

[@zombi303]

Remember when Odyssey came out and you had your sad voice all the time? LMAO. I guess you're back being a fanboy hey!

[@HawkesGaming]

The best part about that is you must have been super happy with the aftermath of Odyssey but now youre not the fanboy?

[@zombi303]

@@HawkesGaming 😜