What a WASTE of money for the city | 2022 Triumph Speed Triple 1200 RS City Test

[@cloud9847]

I doubt many people realize the effort that's going into these camera angles. It's so subtle I doubt people even realize you have 2 rides being filmed. It's really clever.

[@scottsspeedtriplechannel]

I've had my 1200RS for about 7 months. I now have nearly 5000 miles on it. I can find neutral from first at a stop easily most of the time now. It was really hard for the first 2-3 thousand miles, but has broken in or smoothed out nicely. Maybe one out of 20 times does it just jump to 2nd gear and then a quick tap down to neutral.

[@yashinnil5047]

Exact same experience for me aswell!

[@inverlane1939]

I have only covered 120 miles and was hoping that a few thousand miles would reduce the selector shift pressure. Your positive feedback has cheered me up 😊

[@giovanniricci2869]

Really useful info since everyone testing it keeps complaining about finding the neutral 👍✌️

[@spookdoa]

I have gotten several thousand miles on mine and now when rolling up to a stop in second, with a little light pressure on the down shift with the speed shifter I can go right to neutral without going to first. If I want to get into first and miss neutral with the speed shifter, I just bang down a bit quicker and harder.

[@Theninjadeathhawk]

I have a 1050 the only gripe I have about it is that the transmission is clunky but everything else is perfect

[@colonelquickshifter6534]

Picked mine up today after trading in my 1050… the new ST is amazing a wonderful road bike - I love it …I’ve had 3 ST’s, BMW’s , ducatis ans this triumph is competing at the highest level - incredible bike - I’ll do my review soon

[@NicePantsLance]

OC: I must have super powers then, because I didn't have a single issue getting it into neutral 🧐 even on my first test ride, I popped it into neutral first try One of the smoothest gearboxes I've ever felt to be honest. If that clutch makes your hand tired, I have absolutely no idea how you handled the Indian cruisers and the Rocket 3.

[@GalpersKCCO]

+1 Not to mention you only have to squeeze the clutch at stop/first gear takeoff. Every other shift, up or down, is literally clutch-less thanks to the blipper.

[@jordankelly4684]

this guy is the biggest whiner on the planet, he makes motorcyclists look bad

[@conairehewlett7576]

@chaseontwowheels I have one, to fix the neutral "issue". It's different to to say a 765 or Daytona. You don't go from first up into neutral. You need to go from first to second then half down neutral. It's to stop false neutrals when shifting up.

[@focohustla]

I've had no issues getting into neutral with my 2024 RS. It's the best motorcyle I have ever owned.

[@EvolvingMale]

I recently reviewed a Duke 890r and it's neutral is equally difficult to find. My 2020 street triple is fine.

[@ceejaypilot4226]

OC-very impressed with its flexibility in urban environments; transmission may be a distraction, but can overlook for that flexible punch when you want it.

[@cccycling5835]

2:35 lol "You Go." Sometimes you just gotta take command.

[@traviscarter9300]

2021 CB1000R. It is killer for all my riding. City, mountain carving, touring. Does it all fabulous. It also is a rocket ship when you want it to be. Love it. Dream bike.

[@jlock9085]

It's a great bike. Prob top 10 all around bike. I say the fazer 900 edges it out though.

[@mikev6046]

Black Edition?

[@traviscarter9300]

@@mikev6046 yes

[@JDelta87]

OC: I had the outgoing RS and it wasn't a problem getting into neutral so it's shocking to hear that it is on the new one. Also, not a fan of how now only one headlight is for low beam now when it was dual low/high on the outgoing RS.

[@2wheelcrew556]

OC...Looks like a great riding position. I guess you get so many compliments since you look pretty sharp on the bike.. gear and all. Great review.!

[@jeffmccollum3769]

I have had the bike since April. It gets better, and very easy to drop into Neutral from Second. I love it and I think it is a Super Naked Bike

[@bjrkK]

Would you recommend it? Is it reliable?

[@rafiqrosli3967]

What an absolutely stunning city area! I live in asia and seeing the orange trees and the blue sky coupled with the contrast of the buildings is beautiful! Haha i know this is a motorcycle review video but wow.

[@JasonYergin]

LOL… you get used to finding neutral pretty quick. I guess I would describe it as a slight little nudge up from 1st.

[@jasonleverton3656]

If "too much power for the city" is the worst you got I'd say that's a good thing. My Neutral was hard to find for the first 1000 miles or so, nice now. I am smitten with my 1200 RS, I do however live an hour from the city, in the twisty mountains (but that doesn't happen apparently).

[@luegolover355]

Well it doesn't happen where I live but, I envy you

[@TriumphLover]

I got the 2011 Speed Triple from day 1 and neutral isn't that bad. Did a little adjusting down on the engine adjusting cable. Helped out a lot. I'm getting the 2022 1200RR sometime in January/February we'll see how that goes. But nobody is going to buy the RS or the RR and do city riding. You go in do your thing and get out.

[@mikeyfreestyler64]

2.46 thank god for those brembos! test road one yesterday and the brakes are something to behold!

[@lungtamik]

I've had my Speed 1200 RS for 6 months now and after 3000 miles, the neutral is easier to find than when it was brand new. It still is kind of notchy compared to my 2020 Street RS where it was butter smooth. I recently got a gear shift support from Racetorx which also helps having a more direct feel. I'm suprised when you say the Speed Triple feels way heavier than the MT 09 SP. The MT09SP is only 10 lbs lighter than the Speed RS, all fueled up.

[@bjrkK]

Would you recommend the 1200 rs? Do you think it is reliable? Considering it as my next bike.

[@rogerbarfell9075]

Yes would recommend bike is awesome

[@corey-jadeclarke-brown6934]

The suspension is fully customisable ‐ so put it in the setting best for race tracks when riding in the city. Sounds legit. 😐

[@xorbe2]

Too much power, _perfect._ I love riding mine around the city, it purrs just fine at low rpms. Adjust the suspension settings, and swap out the stupid stiff oem tires. It's 425 pounds +/- half tank of gas, that's not heavy. Go to 2nd to get into N a lot easier. I ride around in Sport mode no problem. My clutch lever rattles too. OC.

[@scottsspeedtriplechannel]

I agree with the one comment about the suspension being too stiff. I have had my 1200RS for over six months. In the first week, I set the sag and preload to very soft settings. I set front and rear preload to only about 1/8 and compression/rebound to about the same. I only weigh 155 pounds and use the bike to commute in FL on a lot of concrete road and bridges. I don't find it too harsh. I do take my weight off the seat a lot going over rough areas though. When I went to the Tail of the Dragon in October, I did need to stiffen it up some, still not to 1/4 stiffness, and have left it that way since. I know the one you rode was a loaner, but if you do ride it again. I suggest you have the suspension set up for you. I worked for a Triumph dealer for years and I know the bikes cone set up for 180-200+ pound riders. It will never be a soft and cushiony ride, but it is not as bad as most reviews make it seem.

[@dddon513]

Can you advise on what you're changing out for the customer? Different springs? Something else?

[@jeffy3964]

I’ve not had a problem at all getting into neutral fantastic bike!! Love it

[@lateralus9244]

Is there a way to rewire the headlights so that they are both on at the same time and then still switch to high beams? So basically, having both low and high beam access in both headlamps. Is there a way to do this because it looks kinda stupid with just one headlamp on on just one side of the bike?

[@scottsspeedtriplechannel]

Ever since 1994 and the first Triumph "Hooligan" or "naked" bike was introduced, people had quick gut reactions about the looks. They either loved it or hated it. When the double headlight model came out, it got even worse. If you think about it though, unlike cars and trucks, motorcycles have always had vastly different styling throughout the available model ranges leading to very strong opinions. Not only Triumph and not only a few models, if you look at say 100 various bikes, you'll find that you have very different opinions on the looks of the different bikes.

[@Metrobus271]

My 2011 Speed Triple has the same issue. While coasting below 10 mph it’s easier to find neutral but impossible from a complete stop. Also, using a high grade full synthetic oil helps with mine.

[@18yzfr66]

Currently debating on the street or the speed. The 765 RS seems like a steal but I do like something with a punch but no too much for the streets. Is it too powerful where you can’t really enjoy every gear?

[@damionharris8776]

The dealership fixed the neutral aspect for me and it's much better than it was initially.

[@scottsspeedtriplechannel]

BTW, thanks for the great videos on the Speed Triple. I have watched them all. Keep it up.

[@thedawapenjor]

Not sure if it helps but rev matching really helped me with my bike.

[@yashinnil5047]

There is a cure for the difficult neutral, unfortunately, it's time. You need to break her in. once past about 4000 km, it gets noticeably easier to shift into neutral. My benchmark for a useable neutral is when I see the traffic lights 200meters (1/8 mile ) away just turning red, I can shift down from 5th gear to 4th to 3rd to 2nd then to neutral and coast to the stoplight. I could NOT do this when the bike was brand new but now, 4000kms in,I CAN now. Happy days! Also YES I get so much more looks and conversations on this bike than on my 2015 superduke 1290. I honestly think it appeals to more normal people cause it looks classy. It tends to be the riders who prefer/own other bikes that dislike the design, though so far many who dislike it haven't seen it in person.

[@MrRGM10]

didnt solve that my buddy has 1 . it would only go if coming 2nd to neutral. not a bike for city traffic

[@truthcrusader4521]

The rider stated it was a little heavy? I watched a naked bike shootout and and they said the Triumph was the lightest in it's class. Test riders complain about the stiff track suspension setup but I have yet to see a test video on adjusting the high quality Ohlin's for bumpy road riding and then riding the bike. That would obviously be the next video to do. This is a good looking bike no doubt and arguably the best looking bike in it's class. It would be nice if Triumph offered a nice half fairing kit for this bike.

[@joshbryant7363]

I have a 2016…the neutral hunt is real. It’s annoying. And I would put it on an extremely short list of things I don’t like about my bike. Would absolutely love a new one (though I would really consider the street as well). I ride it around the city just fine, and I’m 5’9” 165. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@scottsspeedtriplechannel]

I hope the neutral issue does not change anyone's mind about buying this bike if they like everything else because after a few thousand miles, mine has broken in nicely. I still have the issue occasionally, but not much.

[@rudyrobertson1540]

I wish I had Atlanta weather. Its been 35 degrees and raining non stop here in Seattle

[@KawabachiFL]

Goodmorning! Jesus loves you.

[@blairknight7793]

I daily a 1200 RS, find neutral going from 2nd down, not 1st up. 13,000km, it happens easy once you work that out. Also back your spring rates way out and set your shock rates and its much much nicer. Stock its way too hard, Ive got mine pretty nice now. My gear shift input shaft breaks right off the gearbox at 13,000km. Its very poorly designed.

[@steve_poole]

I've ridden a couple of Bonnevilles that were exactly the same almost impossible to find neutral while stopped. That and having to have the clutch pulled in to start them is enough for me to not buy a triumph.

[@happyhalfwit8862]

The neutral is a total pain . Am trying to find out from the dealers if there are answers as it been out here a year longer. The tyres are the other issue as they are frisky in the wet and again as yet Triumph have not issued a list of recommended alternatives . Otherwise its a stunning bike thats a pleasure in all types of riding, just tweak the dampers to suit.

[@josephcuison5412]

I had this bike as a demo unit for a few days to get the feel for the RR I am planning to get when it arrives at the local dealership. I find that people who whine about the neutral issue are just not mechanically inclined enough to know that all is needed on cable clutches is to adjust the amount of free play available on the clutch lever. All it takes is a few turns on the free play barrel adjuster in order to tighten it up a bit. That’s what I always do before I jump on a bike I’ll be riding for the first time. I think new riders should learn how to adjust cable clutches and get into that habit of checking free play first before complaining about getting into neutral and give negative comments on YT about a bike that is perfectly fine. Even after owning a bike with a cable clutch for sometime, always check free play after every few hundred kilometers as cables tend to stretch over time and clutch plates wear out, factors that affect clutch engagement and the ease or difficulty in getting into neutral. Edit: @ 9:20, the OP mentioned the clutch lever “shakes” or too loose. That is a sign that there really is too much free play and not quite disengaging the clutch, hence difficulty finding neutral.

[@kylekyle8131]

Im glad my 2016 speed triple R didn't have that issue. Phew!

[@SovaKlr]

The 2012 Speed Triple 1050 neutral was the same. Exactly the same. Transmission was great while moving, never missed a shift. Hard AF to get to N.

[@cfbcory]

Same with my 07 Daytona. You’ll spend minutes tryna put it in neutral.

[@MFT_RAW]

I have a 2011. I find if you two finger clutch, its hard to get neutral. I usually end up using four when I know I want neutral, but just hold it in with two at the lights.

[@SovaKlr]

@@MFT_RAW if your girl needs all four fingers something is wrong... oh, shit, my bad. Wrong conversation. Carry on.

[@radicalkonrad765]

I'm learning most youtubers "too much power" is a proper amount of power for me

[@scottsspeedtriplechannel]

I still find that after a cold start (and I live in FL) the clutch is notchy or jerky. After a few miles, it smooths out nicely.

[@phantomnus]

Have you ever dine anything about which bike would be best for a beginner?

[@phlacoe]

I have a 2010 speed triple (looking to upgrade). I just stay in a higher gear. Then when I roll on the throttle, it's not so dramatic (yes I know the new one has more power).

[@oseh438]

My favourite bike literally ever! It looks better In matt silver ice imo

[@GalpersKCCO]

Fav bike ever for me too and I like the matte silver as well, but the highlighter yellow that comes with it kills the look for me. Gotta go black/red just so I don't have to look at that yellow. 🤮

[@luegolover355]

No way, black all day long for me.

[@Aiken47]

Meh, it’s only a problem if you’re trying to wring it’s neck, it’s not the pani 1299, now that’s difficult in 50kph zones

[@Aussie_R6]

OC: The looks of the Speed Triple are alot like the MT09 SP and the entire MT Line-up. Their polarizing. Some love them, some hate them. The performance of the Speed Triple is surprising city wise but some Triumphs are known for the neutral issue. Like a hot Panigale you learn to live with it or you get rid of it. I'd love to test ride a Speed Triple RS to see if it would sway me away from the MT09 SP. It have to be phenomenal to bridge the cost gap between the Speed Triple RS and the MT09 SP.

[@richardcerritelli9657]

I have a 2005 GSXR Hayabusa I'm looking to upgrade it has too much lean in my back starts bothering me I'm looking at the Speed Triple 1200 RS brand new and a brand-new mt10 both 2023 models something about the mt10 just turns me off it looks so cheesy I just don't know what it is now the Speed Triple looks to be more high-quality but I don't know never been on either the dealer wants $10,000 out the door with my bike for the mt10 anyone's 13,000 out the door for the Speed Triple 1200 Tumi I'm leaning towards the Speed Triple what's your take.

[@Aussie_R6]

@@richardcerritelli9657 If you're looking at the base MT10 compared to the Speed Triple RS, I'd say the Triumph takes it. Though if you compare the MT10 SP to the Speed Triple RS their much closer. Honestly people make too much of a fuss over the MT line-up. As you'll be hard pressed to find a better performing naked that's also widely considered beautiful, aside from the Ducati Streetfighter V2 and V4. I've not rode the new Speed Triple RS yet as I just got a new Aprilia RSV4 Factory limited. But having rode the new MT10 SP I can tell you that it'll be really hard to find anything bad to say about it other than it's looks that have always been polarizing. Yet the same can be said for the Street Triple and Speed Triple line-up. I do believe the new Speed Triple has a slightly more aggressive riding triangle compared to the MT10 or MT10 SP, but I'd bet it's not really noticeable during daily riding. If it was my money I'd go with the MT10 SP as I can only judge the Speed Triple RS by what I heard about it. While my test ride of the MT10 SP didn't disappoint one bit.

[@Myself6M]

But on the video you seemed to find Neutral just fine. I am confused!

[@jonnybegood4848]

From what I see he's just holding the clutch in. If that's the case an owner doing this is going to put some unnecessary wear on that the machine over time.

[@Myself6M]

@@jonnybegood4848 The screen shows N!

[@jonnybegood4848]

@@Myself6M Nice catch. Hopefully I'm more observant of things when I'm riding. :)

[@Myself6M]

@@jonnybegood4848 Thanks man!

[@andyyougoonie]

But is it too much Smort?

[@whatsamatta6226]

OC: Speed Triple RS is only liter bike worth owning. It's perfected the combination of track, sport, and comfort in motorcycles of this class. You could make a case for the Tuono, but I personally don't see the Tuono as a naked bike.

[@jasonleverton3656]

I feel this was more of a scooter test, than a supernaked test. Why did you set the suspension hard like you were doing a trackday for a slow, rough city test? Get the driving mode out of road, ramp the power delivery to sport or track to test it!...and its the lightest supernaked by quite a bit.

[@jlock9085]

I still say a yamaha fazer 900 is the best all around bike bar none. You can find year old used ones under 10k. 2nd place goes to the latest Gen Ninja 650. 3rd place to the R3. CHANGE MY MIND.

[@luegolover355]

They look a tad dull to me, apologies and all,...

[@gnarcore3960]

Why wont they just change the headlights :,)

[@hawaiielite]

Was on the fence between this and the the 2022 MT10 SP. After watching this vid, there's several deal breakers for me. I'm going with the 2022 MT10 SP. Thanks

[@outdoors-gs9td]

what was biggest factor to go Yamaha? my best friend rode the triple and loved it but ent with the BMW 1000R, I think comfort was one factor, said triple was wicked fast, but hes going full exhaust, tuned etc. lol

[@eb-pe8xg]

Have you mastered how to shift a motorcycle transmission into neutral yet? I have no problem finding neutral on my 2022 Speedy RS.

[@commanderroddi7742]

My Yammmy R1M did "alright" but she would bitch and get all hot and bothered in the city... ;) She loved the highway and Canyons though. Street Triple did awesome in City! also in Canyons. Looking for a new bike (Naked this time) so I'm interested in these videos. If I owned this bike, I'd keep the suspension Soft until I plan to ride it hard. I"d believe you can count the clicks and just remember (or write down on your phone or somewhere) which settings is good for, lets say, CItty, TRack, etc). Good video. OC Basedon its samler sibling, I thought It'd do alright.

[@chillyourself5208]

This makes sense

[@gt4_driver631]

What a surprise! 🙄🙃

[@EvolvingMale]

Love this bike

[@danielmoralesjr6470]

The praymantis!

[@alexduey7868]

I mean the samller the better if all you do it city riding and if its short enough an electric scooter is better then any motorcycle.

[@brandino9000]

the S3 is only 423lbs LOL

[@Champion2Manager]

Too much power for the city 🏙 🚀 💥

[@luegolover355]

Why? That's the thin end of the wedge where the other end is that only 125cc bikes should used in town

[@Zh2_viraj]

Totally waste of money in Indian mkt it’s to much heating problem

[@leinallat292]

1st viewer from Philippines

[@sanxi34]

How do you solve Triumph’s neutral problem? Get a Yamaha hahahaha =P

[@aressimbamt0959]

just buy japan bike

[@juricuozzo1003]

This guy…… if it didn't exist it would have to be invented !! Rightly one buys a 180hp motorcycle just for the city, and then for the rest. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ This bike is an amazing machine for the city also,actually probably one of the best choise for! …. go back to driving electric scooters, thank you