What are your thoughts on this? 🤔

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LoeWhaley

LoeWhaley

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@hildia5439
@hildia5439 5 ай бұрын
I had a coworker who had this post script on her emails "I am sending this email at a time that is convenient for me - please respond at a time that is convenient for you to foster a healthy work-life balance." I now have that message on all my outgoing emails.
@boriuniq
@boriuniq 5 ай бұрын
And now I'll be using it on my emails, thank you!
@jessicauba7722
@jessicauba7722 5 ай бұрын
I mean that’s a given. I don’t think you need to coddle people because you are doing something what is best for you. So long as you are not forcing them to reply there is no issue
@tathoiclassicalindianbollywood
@tathoiclassicalindianbollywood 5 ай бұрын
a coworker has something similar as well. really helpful
@PamelaZKemper
@PamelaZKemper 5 ай бұрын
Me too! I added it as a "well-being notice" ...I've gotten a lot of positive response from coworkers. To the person who commented not to coddle people, we're all different and setting clear expectations just reduces anxiety and confusion. Especially when it's added to your email signature, it's zero effort on my end.
@OrangeMekuri
@OrangeMekuri 5 ай бұрын
Same. I also use this.
@septegram
@septegram 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely right. I work with people in the UK, USA, India, New Zealand, Australia, and more. I send emails at _my_ convenience and expect a response at yours.
@Cyntaria
@Cyntaria 5 ай бұрын
As an Aussie working with Aussies I even deal with this as we have different time zones. People are chill and don't expect a response after hours, especially the WA guys who are way behind
@Jaymac720
@Jaymac720 5 ай бұрын
My company has an employee who lives in the Philippines. I don't know why. He typically responds during our hours though, so I guess he inverts his schedule. We're also collaborating with a company in India. I don't correspond directly with them though so idk their hours. Most of our work is local though since we are a smaller company
@Alpha_Digamma
@Alpha_Digamma 5 ай бұрын
I work with a world-wide team too. When I see Americans answer at like midnight their time to my emails I always cringe inside. Guys, get some sleep, seriously!
@commandercorner5575
@commandercorner5575 5 ай бұрын
What's funny is this is how everything used to be before cell phones became so ubiquitous. Everyone nowadays always expects people to immediately respond to messages regardless of the time or platform, it's seriously ruining interpersonal interactions.
@AstonishedByTheLackOfCake
@AstonishedByTheLackOfCake 5 ай бұрын
I don't understand why anyone would even get worked up about this, obviously you ought to be able to send your emails at whatever time is convenient for you and the recipient is free to answer whenever is convenient for them emails aren't instant messaging with read receipts and there's no obligation to treat them as such
@travgames0113
@travgames0113 5 ай бұрын
One of my coworkers has this statement in her email: "Note: My working hours may differ from yours. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside of your normal work schedule."
@greensteve9307
@greensteve9307 5 ай бұрын
I've seen that message too!
@JayeEllis
@JayeEllis 5 ай бұрын
That's basically what mine says, copied directly from a DVP's email.
@SisterOfDeathInAK
@SisterOfDeathInAK 5 ай бұрын
My org has "My working hours and yours may be different. Please do not respond outside of your schedule" on our email sigs. It started with our commissioner.
@JulEnglefaris
@JulEnglefaris 5 ай бұрын
I would maybe change it to "please do not feel obligated/required to respond...." The other way feels like a demand lol
@Respectable_Username
@Respectable_Username 5 ай бұрын
I absolutely love that! Totally stealing it 😛
@Nick1979BN
@Nick1979BN 5 ай бұрын
@@JulEnglefaris To some in corporate country your version might sound like "but of course we do expect everyone to do so" - also sometimes people really have to be told to not work like robots. Just the weirdness of the world we are living in today ...
@esthermcafee5293
@esthermcafee5293 5 ай бұрын
All of our executives have something in their email signature like “I’m sending this email at a time that is convenient for me. I do not expect a response outside of your working hours”. It helps with that “Oh crap - it’s the boss. Better answer now” feeling.
@BioLivbanon
@BioLivbanon 5 ай бұрын
If the boss sends one, I can kind of understand the urgent feeling, so that is kind of them. But otherwise it feel more like the person being too stressed.
@SuperArnie
@SuperArnie 2 ай бұрын
I totally get where you’re coming from. On the other hand, if adding that kind of disclaimer seems necessary in working environment, its working culture could be worth taking a closer look at. I never replied outside of my working hours and never expected anyone else to. I did that with anyone: people I was managing, other employees from other teams, people managing me, people with or without fancy job descriptions or titles, including clients. There were people replying to messages at all times of the day among all those groups, but learning that no one is required to do so or even asked will help a lot in letting go whenever you end your working day.
@sarahh3320
@sarahh3320 5 ай бұрын
Had a manager do this to me before I was hired on. I was emailing her questions I had about the role, and she responded that she felt it was unprofessional that I email her outside of working hours (she worked 10am-5pm, and apparently me emiling at 8am was too much for her???) I immediately backed out of the hiring process. If you are getting snippy with me before the job has even started i cant imagine what it will be like when we start working together.
@fatimaolumee4517
@fatimaolumee4517 5 ай бұрын
You did the right thing for sure. Did you tell them why you backed out?
@thewaffleironn
@thewaffleironn 5 ай бұрын
That’s WILD. I actually intentionally only sent emails “outside of business hours” when I was applying/interviewing for jobs. I figured they know I already have a job so it would be unprofessional for me to be emailing them WHILE working.
@asadb1990
@asadb1990 5 ай бұрын
​@@fatimaolumee4517 no point most toxic companies don't take criticism well.
@fluffytail6355
@fluffytail6355 5 ай бұрын
@@fatimaolumee4517they will say it’s a “you” problem, not a them problem. Don’t bother trying to teach an employer a message. Few of them are willing to self-reflect to see what THEY did wrong.
@fluffytail6355
@fluffytail6355 5 ай бұрын
You are right. I consider the job searching process the same as “dating.” Everyone is usually on their best behaviour initially, so if you start seeing red flags during this “honeymoon” phase, things will only be much worse going forward. I was awarded a job once (knew the boss would be problematic but I needed to pay my rent) so I accepted. Showed up for work the first day, alone. No one else there. Waited for 45 minutes but no one showed up so I went him. Boss called me 2 hours later and laid into me about why I wasn’t at work. Told her what happened and she wanted me to come in and “talk about it.” She couldn’t believe I quit on my first day! I can’t imagine what a monster she would have been had I continued to work for her. She was even snippy during my working interview the day before. I told her she owes me $$ for the working interview as well as for 3 hours the day I worked (it’s labor law where I live) and I actually got the labor board to get her to pay me when she refused. What a complete nightmare and I’m glad I figured out what she was all about so early on.
@zieuc964
@zieuc964 5 ай бұрын
I worked graveyard shifts as a teen, and bro, when else am I supposed to send emails😭 I’d send emails at like 2 or 3am cause I was SLEEPING from 9am-6pm otherwise.
@primeyoriichi
@primeyoriichi 5 ай бұрын
What is a graveyard shift
@dedprinc.ssjane
@dedprinc.ssjane 5 ай бұрын
​@@primeyoriichi one that goes overnight! these ones typically end by or before the sun is up; a good example of it is those convenience stores that you can go to at literally any time: 12pm, 4am, 8am, etc.
@crystalmichaud3716
@crystalmichaud3716 5 ай бұрын
​@primeyoriichi it's usually 11PM to 7AM. I worked those hours at 16 back in the 90s. Was able to because my mom and brother, 18, also worked those hours at a Casino. I worked in the restaurant away from the Casino part. I was going to school part time, worked full time.
@fly1ngpapaya
@fly1ngpapaya 5 ай бұрын
Ah yes graveyard. Been doing it 5 years now.
@DemstarAus
@DemstarAus 5 ай бұрын
​@@primeyoriichithe name graveyard shift comes from workers who would tend to graveyards at night when loved ones were much less likely to visit.
@TheEvertw
@TheEvertw 5 ай бұрын
I LOVE email because of this. I send when I like to, and the other party can read when they like to. It even works when in vastly different time-zones.
@salvadorleggs8671
@salvadorleggs8671 5 ай бұрын
I know! In any case, it almost seems rude to recieve an inmediate e-mail reply 🤣
@jtidema
@jtidema 5 ай бұрын
I know - totally agree!
@Caiyde
@Caiyde 5 ай бұрын
I think it's contextual. Company culture can pressure employees to respond to emails immediately. I once had a team member who emailed me on a Friday night at 7pm asking me to edit a document for him. He then called me at 8pm, and I didn't pick up. He then emailed me at 3pm on the Sunday asking if it was done, and complained about not being able to reach me. I was a 19yo apprentice at the time, and it was this that taught me not to give out my personal phone number (I didn't have a company phone) and not to log into my work email on my personal phone. Now I don't see anything until I log in on my next work day.
@Deveonn
@Deveonn 5 ай бұрын
Email is not the proper channel for direct communication. Slack, Teams or a phone call is because you can validate that the communication reaches it destination and if the person is available.
@irenadjukanovic6317
@irenadjukanovic6317 5 ай бұрын
exactly it will always be 80% abused option 20% respected one
@PointsofData
@PointsofData 5 ай бұрын
​@@Deveonn I am guessing these applications did not exist at the time fam
@fluffytail6355
@fluffytail6355 5 ай бұрын
A company that my husband worked at did this with him too. They didn’t want to set up the next day’s events before work ended and would spend all weekend trying to reach him to set things up for Monday. I work from home and my phone gets locked in my office as soon as I’m done work on Friday and until I’m back Monday morning, so I can have work-life balance. I taught my husband to do the same but his needy coworkers constantly did this to him but when he tried to reach them back, they wouldn’t answer because they don’t answer on weekends. Talk about double-talk from them! I’m so glad he’s changed employers now for a much better company.
@fluffytail6355
@fluffytail6355 5 ай бұрын
A company that my husband worked at did this with him too. They didn’t want to set up the next day’s events before work ended and would spend all weekend trying to reach him to set things up for Monday. I work from home and my phone gets locked in my office as soon as I’m done work on Friday and until I’m back Monday morning, so I can have work-life balance. I taught my husband to do the same but his needy coworkers constantly did this to him but when he tried to reach them back, they wouldn’t answer because they don’t answer on weekends. Talk about double-talk from them! I’m so glad he’s changed employers now for a much better company.
@adelucas4824
@adelucas4824 5 ай бұрын
My manager is an insomniac and is often up very early in the morning or late at night and will send emails out. There is no expectation for a reply or even a read, he expects us to read them when we start our shift or when it's convenient. Once in a blue moon it's something very important for the next day so he'll ring the person actually working (we have 24/7 cover) and ask them to check their email and pass it along to the next shift taking over. That's rare though. I won't say he's a great manager, but he does respect the right to time off.
@stephanieweeks3489
@stephanieweeks3489 5 ай бұрын
I would never IM someone outside of working hours, but emails are a “whenever you can get to it” deal. I don’t email on weekends ever. That’s the only time I would schedule send.
@kayladonnrichardson7384
@kayladonnrichardson7384 5 ай бұрын
Why would you schedule it, though? Just send it. When they respond, or feel compelled to respond, is their own problem.
@jaxbra7
@jaxbra7 5 ай бұрын
@@kayladonnrichardson7384exactly
@jtidema
@jtidema 5 ай бұрын
If I can't send emails 'outside of working hours' then I can never send an email, as I work with people all over the world.
@user-jn4sw3iw4h
@user-jn4sw3iw4h 5 ай бұрын
@@kayladonnrichardson7384 Completely agree on the first half. "or *feel compelled* to respond, is *their own* problem." This one however should require some analysis of the work-culture. The overlap between managers who argue the 'responding regardless of whether it is business-hours is a factor in performance-reviews' and managers who argue 'it is not my problem/fault people feel pressured into responding outside business' is a substantial one. and deliberately so
@Mageman17
@Mageman17 5 ай бұрын
​@@jtidema it's just like when my boss wants my end of day report done BEFORE my working hours are done. I'm like, I can't do my report because I am wasting precious daylight calling and communicating with others.
@AlejandroMonteagudo
@AlejandroMonteagudo 5 ай бұрын
The proboem os the assumption that emails are urgent. Which was created by bad bosses. Emails are by definintion non-urgent and can be answered whenever most convenient. Hence why it is left in an inbox for you to action later
@user-jn4sw3iw4h
@user-jn4sw3iw4h 5 ай бұрын
This. Exactly this. There is exactly 1 problem with the message in this video, and that's how a work culture was created, in which the message needs to be sent. This should have been the given.
@OlafavonGoeding
@OlafavonGoeding 4 ай бұрын
Emails and texts should be expected to be answered at your convenience. If I need something urgently from you, I'll call.
@Surax
@Surax 5 ай бұрын
I've worked shifts different from colleagues and I've always loved it. I can send an email whenever and know that when I log in again the next day, I'll have a response waiting for me.
@Respectable_Username
@Respectable_Username 5 ай бұрын
100% agree! Flexible working hours means I should be able to _send_ my message during _my_ working hours, and the expectation should be that the person receiving does not have access to their messages to receive it until they clock in the next day. Delayed send features are a bandaid to the problem of people not setting their notifications correctly. Why is it on me, a person who prefers to work evenings over mornings, to jump through hoops to stop you from doing something you're already supposed to not be doing? I'm not going to be checking messages sent to me before my work hours because I'm gonna be asleep!
@aries2481
@aries2481 5 ай бұрын
I don’t see the point of delayed send. Call me crazy but what is the reason for delay? Send it! Something doesn’t sit right about a supervisor that sends delayed while they are on PTO or vacation.
@whateverta
@whateverta 5 ай бұрын
I like that she does know that people shouldn't be working outside the work hours.
@NighDarke
@NighDarke 5 ай бұрын
A friend works for an international corporation and regularly sends emails back and forth to the teams in Poland and England. No one expects anyone to respond outside of their working hours.
@koenven7012
@koenven7012 5 ай бұрын
same here. I also work for an international company. I actually send emails at the end of my working day so people in US still have half a day to work on them. Or to China or India so they can work on those while I'm sleeping and give me a reply by the time I'm back. If you plan and you know the timezones you can make those work for you without people having to reply outside of their local working hours.
@airlag
@airlag 5 ай бұрын
some people seem to think, that email is a synchronous communication like the phone. It isn't. email is asynchronous communication like paper mail. I check my email in-box only twice a day during work hours. For anything urgent, there is the phone and teams calls.
@OurLordandSaviorSigmar
@OurLordandSaviorSigmar 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, personally I wouldn't even mind if we have the same work schedules and they send them on my rest period or day off. Just don't expect an immediate reply.
@MrMattDat
@MrMattDat 5 ай бұрын
Love this one! Soooo many people are of the "it's not my responsibility. It is yours" when dealing with colleagues. Great video!
@seajelly2421
@seajelly2421 5 ай бұрын
She's got the right idea! Just needed that bit of extra colleague support ❤️ I do like that delay send feature though. Especially when I'm embarrassed that I'm sending the thing at 2 am.
@jyvben1520
@jyvben1520 5 ай бұрын
embarrassed why, if you get enough sleep/rest/down time, live your life
@stephenritz5581
@stephenritz5581 5 ай бұрын
When I used "delayed send" it doesn't send the email but until the next working day but it does use the original time stamp from when I created it. So it's good that people don't see it until they log on during normal hours but it doesn't obscure when I created it. Or maybe I'm missing a toggle somewhere - will have to check.
@shomemiss
@shomemiss 5 ай бұрын
Same
@farmerbob728
@farmerbob728 5 ай бұрын
She's explaining it in a very nice and polite way.
@RealAkerbos
@RealAkerbos 5 ай бұрын
100% this. Notification management is on the receiver. That said, the company culture is relevant context.
@jamesredmond5233
@jamesredmond5233 5 ай бұрын
I thought this was going to a bizzaro world where the boss is aggressive about working when you should be enjoying personal time
@kaitlyndismuke9966
@kaitlyndismuke9966 5 ай бұрын
I kinda see both sides to this, but it really shouldn’t be a big deal either way….I use schedule send a lot as a courtesy, especially if the receiver is on PTO. At the same time, I don’t expect my coworkers to accommodate my schedule. When I’m outside of work I do not have work notifications on at all, so it’s never an issue if someone sends me something at 8pm or whatever.
@XalexandraXRrR
@XalexandraXRrR 2 күн бұрын
As someone who sends a lot of emails to people in vastly different time zones, delayed response all the time would waste my time unnecessarily. It’s giving snowflake energy
@phil984
@phil984 4 ай бұрын
In our company, everyone including leaders are asked to NOT send mails outside regular office-times. This, to protect employees who feel forced to read mails, have nothing to see and let it be after a while. Needed some time, but we live it now and its great for everyone.
@jaxbra7
@jaxbra7 5 ай бұрын
As many businesses are global, you have to expect emails at all hours, but you do NOT have to respond to them if you don’t want to outside of working hours. I’m UK based that has communications with Asia-Pac and the US. When I login in the morning, there’s emails an already from Asia-Pac team, and if I sometimes check my emails in the evening, there would be emails coming in from US. However, I’m not obligated to deal with those matters until 8:30am UK time 😊
@Jabjabricot
@Jabjabricot 5 ай бұрын
Totally agree... as a beginner teacher I often work during the holidays and I don't necessarily feel like delaying all my e-mails...
@eddiehayes1523
@eddiehayes1523 5 ай бұрын
I wouldn't expect someone to reply outside their working hours. I often work in the evening from home because it's so busy during the day (like when we have 20+ kids on site during our school holiday programme) and send emails then.
@michelafiore393
@michelafiore393 5 ай бұрын
Your job sounds a lot like mine.
@andrewatherton316
@andrewatherton316 5 ай бұрын
I liked the story twist and the overall message.
@goodtroublemaker143
@goodtroublemaker143 5 ай бұрын
I like to go in and hour before everyone or stay an hour after they leave. I can get 3x the work done without the interruptions. Makes life so much easier.
@MDonteMoore
@MDonteMoore 5 ай бұрын
SO true, just a half hour can make a different if you can get it un interrupted.
@edugie1820
@edugie1820 5 ай бұрын
It's simple - I am in a different timezone hence my work hours are different. I recommend turning off notifications after your work hours so you don't get notified until your work hours. Recap - Turn off notifications after your work hour. Place your work phone next to your work computer and exit work location or room. This can be adjusted in settings - setup a time, example - notifications received from 8am - 5pm. After 5pm, it goes to sleep mode until the next morning.
@annaleagrove9056
@annaleagrove9056 5 ай бұрын
Same. I work 2nd shift and have to email team members and engineers and managers who work on opposite shifts.
@alexquest8113
@alexquest8113 5 ай бұрын
I worked for a project once where my lead was in the US with the clients. Now his schedule was essentially during the night here and his work needed to be reported to management during the regular hours in our country. So my lead shifted my schedule to 4 hours with him basically 4am to 8 am and 8 am to 12 pm with the management. It wasn't much of an issue really because my friend got a similar project but she had to work the regular shift and the night calls
@orderfirst8907
@orderfirst8907 5 ай бұрын
I work in healthcare. We work 24/7, rotating schedules: days, nights, evenings, weekends, holidays. So, in the email, you put upon your return in the subject line and you flag it in MS Outlook for next day response.
@eyerollthereforeiam1709
@eyerollthereforeiam1709 5 ай бұрын
One of our IT people, who is always on call and working wacky hours, has that message in his email signature. He spells that out very clearly.
@bartlesbee
@bartlesbee 5 ай бұрын
If you’ve ever worked for a multinational corporation, you’re getting emails at all hours. Imagine you have coworkers in Australia. It’s tomorrow there. You’re getting emails from the **future**!
@TabbyQ.9563
@TabbyQ.9563 5 ай бұрын
I use the delay email function because I don't want to see a response until the next day. Not to mention, it makes it look like I'm getting a lot of work done at 8am when the emails go out.
@jtidema
@jtidema 5 ай бұрын
That works if you are all in the same time zone AND work the same hours - not the case in this video though.
@MovableNu
@MovableNu 5 ай бұрын
My previous workplace eventually disabled delay send unless you were above a certain level in the Org chart. Since I worked closing shift, I loved it while I had it. I could schedule my emails to arrive at 7:55 AM local time for folks working the first shift I needed responses from 😁
@henryviiifake8244
@henryviiifake8244 5 ай бұрын
Does your employer measure your productivity using email correspondence as a metric? Why would you need to be concerned about _appearing_ to be doing lots of work at 8AM? As long as your tasks are completed to the right standard, on-time and - where possible - within budget, then what's the problem?
@henryviiifake8244
@henryviiifake8244 5 ай бұрын
​@@MovableNu What reason would they have for disabling the "Delay Send" feature?
@cps2547
@cps2547 5 ай бұрын
Yup, perfectly stated. I even have a blurb at the bottom of my email (signature block) stating the same thing.
@cindycampbell3761
@cindycampbell3761 5 ай бұрын
On occasion I or management will need to make contact out side of working hours. If it's urgent, then use phone, leave voice-mail, or text. I had a flat tire on way to work. I left voice-mail to say I wouldn't be in on time.
@paytonjones432
@paytonjones432 5 ай бұрын
Nah, this shit reminds me of a few years ago when I worked as a CSS. Someone in my field in Korea screwed something up, and the issue got pushed to my bsse in Florida, and they only wanted to communicate over the phone, I assume so there would be very little paper trail of their fuck up, and they only wanted to work on it duing their working hour. Which wouldn't be a problem except they expected me to stay late, 9pm when my days start at 5:30 am.
@DrCrystalHarris
@DrCrystalHarris 5 ай бұрын
I have been using delay send to send emails at 8 am est. That way it's fresh on their minds vs buried. This has worked even if I send it at the end of the prior day. Agree with this point tho - Don't check them after hours. :-)
@selwyn13
@selwyn13 5 ай бұрын
I fucking love this lady and her slick lines. Keep it comin. 👍👍
@uznaimat7072
@uznaimat7072 5 ай бұрын
At my office, almost everyone begins work at 08:45 to end at 16:30. There are a few employees, however, who hours range from 09:00 to 16:45. One of these employees has the _extremely_ bad habit of making calls at 16:20, when we've already packed up and logged off. I have a few officers who start earlier make calls at 08:30 or 08:35, when I'm very busy taking a pre-work nap. I mean, I get it, they have different hours, but my particular office opens at 08:45, closes at 12:00, opens again at 12:45 to close for the day at 16:30. I really wish all employees understood that.
@jaciem
@jaciem 5 ай бұрын
LOLOLOLOLOL I work with people in India, Japan, California, Ireland, and France. I'm in NYC. If I can't send an email "outside of working hours", I can't send an email.
@jtidema
@jtidema 5 ай бұрын
Exactly
@MNChoirMom
@MNChoirMom 5 ай бұрын
A nice switch to the general theme of these skits. This is great.
@julieplamondon7683
@julieplamondon7683 5 ай бұрын
Please, please, please, show a scenario with the overanxious colleague that can't make decisions and can't work independently
@shewolf8771
@shewolf8771 5 ай бұрын
That's actually a good suggestion, putting a time delayed on the email. I didn't know I could do that.
@HeavnzMiHome
@HeavnzMiHome 5 ай бұрын
I am often awake the early hours. If I send an email to someone at that time, I definitely do not expect an immediate response.
@bwicket
@bwicket 5 ай бұрын
As a salaried worker, I choose when to look at my email. If I have something pressing to look for I may check it, but when I don't want to, I don't. Boundaries are self-made and you don't get to put that on anyone else. I never expect responses from people outside their working hours.
@LMFuqua
@LMFuqua 5 ай бұрын
I mean it's good that the boss is trying prioritize themselves but yes everyone has differing working hours.
@seijasb
@seijasb 5 ай бұрын
yeah, had a colleague call me out on an afterwork because I "kept sending her teams messages when she was off". I told her exactly what haley said, that I never expected her to reply right away, and that I didn't even understand why she was checking her Teams outside her working hours - was glad the rest of my colleagues agreed with me
@MohdFaizan-xl7fs
@MohdFaizan-xl7fs 5 ай бұрын
Then why you sent it if your work message was not something which required immediate response then send it when the employee is online, everyday working create a habit of checking message also sometimes when you send something the other person takes it seriously that's why the employee is checking in the first place
@seijasb
@seijasb 5 ай бұрын
@@MohdFaizan-xl7fs cause I wouldn't necessarily be able to send it when we were both working because she had a completely different shift. See, depending on your business your company might need to work round the clock and need to have people working from late afternoon and even through the night, while others work 9-5, all the while still having to collaborate with each other.
@bakuiel1901
@bakuiel1901 5 ай бұрын
I work about 4 hours earlier than everyone else on my team, I do delay my emails so I don't disturb people early in the morning
@Zoe-c9z
@Zoe-c9z 5 ай бұрын
I use the volume off button, or vibrate, or turn your phone off, so you can be a human also.
@bigshady575
@bigshady575 5 ай бұрын
I come across this sometimes when I work a split or evening shift. A lot of our night shift emails are to several teams as we update on processes. There will be about a dozen or so unread when the day shift people come in.
@cornycornsnake
@cornycornsnake 5 ай бұрын
That was one of the most wholesome responses I’ve seen the toodalooer give thus far.
@Heathersue69
@Heathersue69 5 ай бұрын
I'm in the UK and have colleagues in Polant and India plus I have part time colleagues. Also due to my ADHD I was offered to shift my work day to accommodate my ND sycadian rhythm (it's shifted for later in the day).
@slowburn1988
@slowburn1988 5 ай бұрын
I don't understand people who think an email requires an immediate response. This is what phone calls and chat messages are for. If I'm sending an email, it's because I need a reaction *at some point*, but it's not that urgent.
@ezzie_aus
@ezzie_aus 5 ай бұрын
The only emails I delay send on are those that I happen to action as soon as they come in. I don’t want to build the expectation that I will always drop everything to action your request, so I’ll respond right away but delay for 4 hours 😂
@claudinecyr3801
@claudinecyr3801 5 ай бұрын
I had a similar comment from a coworker for emails he received during his vacation time.
@jtidema
@jtidema 5 ай бұрын
Goodness, like now I'm supposed to remember who is on vacation when and 'save' just their emails while the rest of us continue working? Not happening...
@M13C7
@M13C7 5 ай бұрын
luckily i never had this happen! But i will say im nervous when i edit excel sheets at 2am in the morning or sending emails at 9pm its funny how many people reply at like 11pm though! i dont expect a reply, i sent it back i finally go to do it and i will say it frustrates me to work outside of my working hours, but as someone who doesnt have home office, i sometimes just dont get to read / write those emails until i finally settle in at home
@christinakirk4705
@christinakirk4705 5 ай бұрын
And outlook says "would you like to delay this message until it is within your working hours". It was 4:45 pm my time and the client was in Europe. So I wanted them to see if first thing in the morning for them, not me.
@stargazer1682
@stargazer1682 5 ай бұрын
This is one of many reasons I like to schedule emails; I can compose it when it's convenient for me, and they can get it when I think it's convenient for them or close enough at least. Chances are I won't even be awake when they get it. Unfortunately, we recently switched hosting providers and my copy of Outlook (desktop) doesn't seem to have the delay send; which I'm very disappointed with.
@jenniferstorm4037
@jenniferstorm4037 5 ай бұрын
Schedule your emails to arrive during the recipient’s business hours. Just use “delivery delay” so that you don’t accidentally wake someone up or otherwise interrupt their down time. You can still send whenever is convenient, but there is no reason not to take the extra 2 seconds to control when the email arrives.
@gerrypalmer6712
@gerrypalmer6712 5 ай бұрын
I am 65 and stumbled across these videos, we have just been taken over by a big American company and I am starting to see similar to these videos within our company. Good luck to my younger colleagues I feel they will need it. Give me the old fashioned workplace anytime no bullshit.
@xandreshephard8764
@xandreshephard8764 Күн бұрын
Agreed. Expecting someone to keep track of other people's working hours is ridiculous. As others have mentioned, adding a note to reply at their own convenience would probably help people understand you don't expect an immediate reply
@User39123
@User39123 5 ай бұрын
Omg. When I was one of five working for a company of 200+ that was on overnights, this happened all the time. And it was worse bc my weekend was in the middle of a normal work week so if come back to so many “just following up on that last email” which was sent 24 hours prior! I finally just added my work schedule right below my name stating these are the hours I will respond to emails.
@ogidy001
@ogidy001 4 ай бұрын
If you work across time zones it is considerate and often effective to have the email arrive at a particular time. I sometimes prep on the weekend and send emails and slack messages but I will have them arrive typically in the persons morning. Living in Asia and working global times for many years I am very aware of timezones. Some cultures (between the pacific and the Atlantic) struggle with understanding when my evenings are…
@rttrttyan
@rttrttyan 5 ай бұрын
My hours are 17:50-06:00 and I have regularly communicated with day shift engineers through email. I send the email during my shift, and I check their reply on my next shift. There has never been a problem.
@benwagner5089
@benwagner5089 5 ай бұрын
We had to do the same thing when we had to have training with personnel in US, Germany, and Singapore. Scheduling a live meeting between all three of us was crazy, so we just emailed whenever possible and responded when we could.
@meme6517
@meme6517 5 ай бұрын
Interesting point of view. Thanks!
@axelgillette1905
@axelgillette1905 4 ай бұрын
This is the healthiest version of time management and working I have ever seen. Kudos.
@sabrinagranger5468
@sabrinagranger5468 5 ай бұрын
This is it! I manage MY work schedule. YOU schedule YOURS.
@mugiciansummoner
@mugiciansummoner 5 ай бұрын
I don’t understand this, working in a hospital we all worked different schedules around the clock. Whenever I sent work emails or received them it was never an issue because we all understand that the hospital runs 24/7 and have different staff members every 8 hours. Common sense to just reply whenever you come in.
@Lycanthromancer1
@Lycanthromancer1 5 ай бұрын
"Common sense" Ah. I think I see where you're going wrong with this...
@mugiciansummoner
@mugiciansummoner 5 ай бұрын
@@Lycanthromancer1 true, common sense should be rephrased as “rare sense”
@Bear-cm1vl
@Bear-cm1vl 5 ай бұрын
I work an on call job and many of my emails are generated at the most unusual times. Scheduled Send saves a lot of headaches by allowing me to send my supervisor messages at 6 AM (when he starts his day), parts at 7 AM and the office staff at 8 AM, when each of them begins work. Saves a world of headaches!
@Mohamed-Barakat85
@Mohamed-Barakat85 5 ай бұрын
I’m curious to the hierarchy of the people in the conversation and how it be taken in different contexts. Like glasses is the boss, then rewatch it where she is the employee
@ghfan2011
@ghfan2011 5 ай бұрын
Nobody should have to check your schedule to know how much to delay the send. If you keep getting emails outside working hours and feeling like you have to respond, take work email off your phone. See it on your PC the next day you’re working. In the incredibly rare case where something actually requires your immediate attention, they shouldn’t be using email to send it.
@matoiiveyy2005
@matoiiveyy2005 5 ай бұрын
Considering how toxic the common environment is a lot of people myself included have developed anxiety problems in regards to emails, while you may not need an immediate response, an email timer is an effortless accomodation to help those struggling
@matoiiveyy2005
@matoiiveyy2005 5 ай бұрын
That being said this approach IS limited and could only apply to individuals you are in the know of their working hours, in regards to some random coworker you don't know I don't see how this would be applicable
@angelqueen2707
@angelqueen2707 5 ай бұрын
use one email address for work and one for private and dont check your work emails if you dont want to outside of office hours
@CHMichael
@CHMichael 5 ай бұрын
Good point -- don't use your business e mail for private stuff. Realy bad habit
@ellenokelly1321
@ellenokelly1321 5 ай бұрын
Whilst this is to be expected under different time zones, my boss works the same business hours as me but sends emails in the middle of the night and at weekends. I think it sets the wrong tone and conflicts with his message that the rest of us do not have to do this.
@jtidema
@jtidema 5 ай бұрын
Well, everyone is different. Some people wake up in the middle of the night and get nervous that they forgot something. They jump to get it out ASAP. That doesn't bother me, but it's not me... I do try to make sure my team is OK if they start sending late night emails regularly... they may need a vacation!
@cosmicvixxonalice6795
@cosmicvixxonalice6795 5 ай бұрын
The lessen here is the same. If one reads the email while drinking coffee in PJ's instead of after their shift starts, it's not the bosses fault they read it 'off the clock '.
@keepdoingyourjob4404
@keepdoingyourjob4404 5 ай бұрын
Well... I often duck off during week to do something or have a longer breaks, go to the gym etc. And while I do not stay late on those days. This makes me not burn out for work. And usually Sunday afternoon I watch movies and do some of my work in advance so I can have shorter days next week. So overall I still spend 40h top - I just use and spread the time better imo. But it doesnt mean I would like people to answer me then. Perks of flexible wfh.
@breathemore8099
@breathemore8099 5 ай бұрын
I have been in this situation. Sent some messages to my boss at 7p and she was mad I didn't wait till the next day to send the messages. I told her I sent the messages while the info was fresh on my mind. If you don't like it too bad. Read them when you get to them.
@ThorsonWiles
@ThorsonWiles 5 ай бұрын
Love that mug ... Punt, right?
@MarshaBryner
@MarshaBryner 5 ай бұрын
Consider the shape of the handle in front of the "unt".
@natk1105
@natk1105 5 ай бұрын
Yup 100%. I had a coworker once who would get annoyed about after hours messages. The weirdest thing was, we were in different time zones anyway, so it's not like our work days lined up. But she felt it somehow put pressure on others if I demonstrate that I'm working late (in my own time zone). Even our boss was confused and tried to reassure her that no one expected her to work late just because someone else was. These days there's no reason to be bothered by after hours messages. Just turn off your computer or switch off notifications.
@magicquill7054
@magicquill7054 5 ай бұрын
I agree with everything said in this video. Sending or checking emails outside of work hours should never be a requirement, but just because your getting an email outside of your own working hours doesn’t mean that it’s outside of the sender’s working hours. I do think there is a small exception to the responding outside hours, and that’s when a lack of response could jeopardise the company as a whole and there’s was no way to resolve it with better time management or scheduling. Obviously that sort of situation rarely ever happens, so it’s usually not even worth mentioning most of the time
@dawnhayes1231
@dawnhayes1231 5 ай бұрын
I think the same way but have a department at work that only wants to get them from 9-5. It never makes since to me. I get emails all times of the day/night but expect they won’t respond until they can which isn’t at the beginning of their day as they might have emails from before mine. Imagine living in a world that doesn’t revolve about others 🤯
@drmohammadmahmoud
@drmohammadmahmoud 3 ай бұрын
I am taking notes and learning new stuff every time I watch your shorts....God bless you 😅
@sistakia33
@sistakia33 5 ай бұрын
I get her point. If I know there's a company email I'm going to open it to make sure it's not urgent. But once it's open it's going to bother me and even if I don't work on it until the next day, it's going to take up space in my head. Really it's not difficult to set a time delay. It shows that you're giving the same respect you're usually asking for. 😉
@stillnotstill
@stillnotstill 5 ай бұрын
Lol no, I'm not going to remember to set a time delay for a person who can't manage their own anxiety regarding work (And I'm saying this with a very impactful anxiety disorders!)
@rachelleanonymous2740
@rachelleanonymous2740 5 ай бұрын
Haha this is like when my sister gets mad at me for sending her stuff on Instagram and "blowing up her phone" when she's at work. 1 - I don't know her schedule, as it varies week to week, and 2 - just mute the notifications when you're at work! 🤪
@asmrmaroxa
@asmrmaroxa 5 ай бұрын
For those who say put a delay on sending emails... I want to know what time I sent the email not when you receive it. And why.are people seeing their WORK emails outside of the office? Don't complain if you want to have your work emails on your personal device, it seems like you can't disconnect from your job.
@Morberis
@Morberis 5 ай бұрын
Man, I have tried using delays on emails and for whatever reason they never ever send at my workplace. Probably something to do with how our systems are setup.
@stargazer1682
@stargazer1682 5 ай бұрын
I don't work set hours, nor get paid by an hourly rate. Support emails come sporadically and sometimes at random time. I'm not exactly inundated by them. it might take me 5 minutes to type up a response at 11pm or even sometime 1 am; and then schedule it to send at 7am, with a certain bemused sense of satisfaction that the customer will receive it during "business hours" or near enough; all while I'm actually still in bed, possibly still asleep and not having to worry about having deal with it when I get up (and subsequently delaying the response). I'm not terribly worried about the timezone difference when it comes to email, but it's none of their business to know when I actually sent the email, as long as I can compose it when it's convenient for me, and they get at a perceived reasonable time. After we recently switched hosting providers, we actually lost the schedule send function, and a couple of months later I'm still kind of grumpy about it. i genuinely don't want to actually send the email in the middle of the night, even if I'm inclined to compose it then, but manually sending it once I'm up and at it the next day is going to delay them being sent by several hours; which if nothing else, is time that the other person might have the opportunity to respond and we might be an extra step or two ahead. Chalk it up to my neurodivergence or whatever, but some of us like to work the way we work...
@tscimb
@tscimb 5 ай бұрын
​@@MorberisMine won't actually delay send an email unless the email application is active. Could be your issue, too. Delayed Send is a great tool, but shouldn't - and, frankly, can't - be a requirement.
@whimsy-chan1188
@whimsy-chan1188 5 ай бұрын
I have a email notifications set to off between 6pm-7am Mon-Thu and Fri 3pm to Mon 7am. I will not reply to any emails after 4:30pm until 8:30am the following morning, it just let's me mentally prepare.
@Solo-vh9fm
@Solo-vh9fm 5 ай бұрын
It’s funny because my old boss forced to put all my emails on my phone in case of emergencies (I’m in finance and payroll so if someone’s pay being incorrect over the Christmas holidays could be a case). Then when he left I was basically forced to delete my emails.
@ribonichigo
@ribonichigo 5 ай бұрын
I am also this way, i set the precedent further by not replying to emails outside of my working hours. Sometimes i will sneak a peak to reduce the sunday morning stress of starting my shift with 50+ emails, and will only respond if it is an ABSOLUTE emergency (im in health care)
@footywap
@footywap 3 ай бұрын
Yes, but if you can schedule an email during another persons working hours to make them feel like their time off is actually time off, do it. It’s kinder
@uwalakab
@uwalakab 5 ай бұрын
Cheeky boss here.... On other examples we see boss saying "I sent you a message out of hours. Why didn't you respond?", and then this hypocritical scenario.....
@cosmicvixxonalice6795
@cosmicvixxonalice6795 5 ай бұрын
Could it be because managers are different and people have one of the other situations? And some people both throughout their career?
@theedgeofoblivious
@theedgeofoblivious 5 ай бұрын
I use delayed send to prevent people from responding to me outside of my working hours.
@azophi
@azophi 5 ай бұрын
The government actually has legal restrictions on stopping people from working outside of their hours. They are forced to pay overtime then, and the government doesn’t want to pay overtime 😅. So you do get chewed out for sending emails at night
@ghostlyparties
@ghostlyparties 5 ай бұрын
I'm new to white collar work, but even in education, I was taught that prioritizing messages between coworkers and managers fell into a list. 1 being the I need a response now and 4 being the you get to it when you get to it. Though this kinda reverses in responses to family and friends. 1.Phone Call 2.Text 3.Scheduling Program (SiteTime, ADP, ClockGuru, Etc.) 4. Emails
@Skitzaholic
@Skitzaholic 4 ай бұрын
I love the subtle slide in of the 'unt' mug haha
@lowtideflut
@lowtideflut 5 ай бұрын
It's an important conversation to have! As a team manager, I try not to email my team members outside of the usual office hours although we have flexible hours for all, just to make sure no one feels any pressure
@magicturtel
@magicturtel 5 ай бұрын
I definitely agree with your message but I also would definitely put a delay on emails if she wants to, because I understand that some people struggle to disconnect from work.
@stillnotstill
@stillnotstill 5 ай бұрын
I would not want to remember to do that for one person
@elainewilliams3114
@elainewilliams3114 5 ай бұрын
She told the boss about email business 😅😅😅😅
@thestarseeker178
@thestarseeker178 5 ай бұрын
Totally agree, I work remote and have flexibility around my kids schedules, so by choice I work after hours some times. I don’t expect a response after working hours for my other team members
@valeriedefarias
@valeriedefarias 5 ай бұрын
One of my professors has a message at the bottom of all her emails “if you see or receive this outside of your working hours there is no need to respond until your work hours” even with the students emails. She wants us to learn work boundaries and I love her for that.
@sandrarekker585
@sandrarekker585 5 ай бұрын
valid point, not to feel you need to respond to emails received outside of working hours.
@neviestix
@neviestix 5 ай бұрын
Bam!!! Love this one. Whoop whoop.
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