What coffee machine to buy under $1k in 2024.

[@dejedejsson]

The Turin Legato is sold under several brand names, it is manufactured by a Chinese manufacturer that supplies several dealers with the same machine.

[@optical76]

The Gaggia is such an amazing machine after you upgrade to a good bottomless and vst basket. Also a 9 bar spring. Easy upgrades. Been using it for years and no desire to upgrade.

[@Abdullah-cj2mh]

Is it fine without a PID? Does temperature surfing get annoying or do you not bother with it anyways? Just curious because I want to get my first espresso machine but I’m not sure how essential a PID is or not.

[@dejedejsson]

Gaggia and Boilergate are a fact unfortunately I am one of those affected, sad I really like Gaggia but don't buy one before they remove the coating in the boiler

[@simonmonty7171]

2 years in and my gaggia classic pro has 2 connectors burnt out. This thing is dangerous and not very long lasting like everyone claims..

[@maebailey8903]

I talked to Whole Latte Love today and was assured that they are switching out the boilers. I asked what kind of metal and was told aluminum, so still a no-go for me. 🙁

[@kc0115-d6r]

@@maebailey8903 Check out the new Class Pro E24 using brass boiler if you are still interested. A little unreasonable mark up though.

[@real1997]

Picopresso rules the world. Brilliant design. Outstanding results.

[@theoreticalapproach5666]

For anyone based in Australia, I recommend to buy Breville dual boiler when they are on promotion at A$1000 level, which is quite often and is till going on some big retailers and forget about anything else until it breaks. I don't really understand their pricing strategy for different countries haha. I wish I have kept it before leaving Austraila! Only downside I can find is that the size can be a little bit wide for some kitchen. In terms of customizability for shots, I don't think there is a comparable machine unless you go for DE level machine.

[@tomscott4438]

Turin is the house brand of Espresso Outlet here in the US. The exact same unit is being sold elsewhere as the MiiCoffee Apex, Gemilai Espresso, and others. The price is certainly outstanding, as well as the feature set, but I have serious concerns about quality and reliability on what is essentially a rebranded model. In this price range, the Gaggia really is the way to go. It could be a great way to get into home espresso, or it could be the one and only machine you would ever need. And you're right, the mod community are really welcoming and helpful.

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

Thanks for sharing! I too worry about longevity of this machine and I guess only time will tell, but for a lot of people who need short term convenience over long term reliability, the Turin could work.

[@tomscott4438]

@@Rydecoffeecoach Several people have been calling the Legato a "Gaggia Killer" but I think the real target is aimed at appliances like Breville/Sage. For the same money you get something that appears like a "real" espresso machine, with tons of features that make it easier to use. And if that's true, reliability becomes less of an issue. As you say, time will tell.

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

@@tomscott4438 yeh it's definitely one to watch.

[@tomscott4438]

@@Rydecoffeecoach FYI, it’s a POS.

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

Wait, you mean Piece of Sh#7 or Point of Sale? 🤣🤣 Why?

[@jonlilley2832]

Thank you for your recommendations, Ryde! I'm still in the 'homework' stage so I really appreciate all the information! Cheers!

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

You're Welcome! All the best in your search!

[@Sanmer50]

The Gaggia looks like an excellent machine, specially with the Gagguino mods that can take even the old Gaggia Classic's and turn them into something a lot more like a Decent. That's incredible potential for an espresso machine that can be found second hand for less than $500.

[@motot3adventure]

My first question is: Are you going to knock the cup over next to your right arm???? Great video. Always enjoy your enthusiasm and down to earth explanations!! Cheers

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

Hasn't happened yet! 😅

[@bhammour]

I’ve upgraded to Gaggia evo and I like everything about it even without modding but the boilergate issue is really a disappointing issue, I have not seen any particles yet but I am expecting them, if so I would replace the boiler with the old uncoated one. That’s all

[@haydenwindmiller8931]

You also have to replace the group to the old version to prevent galvanic corrosion

[@bhammour]

@@haydenwindmiller8931 is keeping the current group has bad impact on health?

[@bhammour]

@@haydenwindmiller8931 it would be much annoying if I have to, I think changing the group head is not necessary especially if I am using filtered water, is it?

[@dazza9360]

Another great video covering the entry level machines. The Breville DBD is definitely the smart choice in Australia. I know plenty of people who have had theirs for upwards of 10yrs with regular cleaning & filters. Sure the O-rings need replacement every three years but otherwise are very durable. The biggest drawback is that they are quite a big machine if you want to keep it in the kitchen…

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

True! They aren't a small footprint. 👌

[@bhooshanparikh]

Good to have a bracket of $1000-2000… seems it be the real sweet spot based on general conversations I’ve had with some of my friends and colleagues.

[@marioitaliano1973]

Great video and it's also good to hear an Australian accent doing sleep professional videos. I've been wanted lucky people that bought a sunbeam and have the longevity and good coffee too. Do you find much difference between Breville and Sunday?

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

Thanks! 🙌🙏 Yes I do find the Breville machines to be better than the sunbeams overall. Especially the dual boiler and Bambino. The Breville grinders are much better too.

[@emmahain5648]

Thanks for this! We watched it last night and it reminded me to heat my portafilter - which I just did and the coffee was delicious!!!! We have the Breville dual boiler that is on its last legs I think.

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

You're welcome!! 🤗 Yeh, there are a lot of great machines out now so it depends on what is most important to you like aesthetics, advanced functions, size and shape and stability and longevity.

[@MrRondonmon]

The US version of the Evo has a 9 bar spring, and all over I think the group head is now brass only (no chrome coating) and the porta filter is solid steel, no chrome coating. I have an Super-Auto Gaggi (hate it) and the DeLonghi 3420 (love it) but I am going to wait 6 months or so and see what the feed back is on the Turin model, thats a steal of a deal. Thanks mate

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

Yeh I am so excited for the Turin! Can't wait to get my hands on it.

[@Saturdays_]

the 57mm on the Lelit always confused me, would be a no brainer purchase otherwise

[@DuBstep115]

57mm is no issue, because everything you could want is available for it. tamping tools, IMS baskets etc and you cant taste the difference between 57mm and 58mm

[@eamonharty464]

I fitted a PID to my classic evo Pro two weeks ago, and I can't speak highly enough of this machine. Streaks above my old breville dual boiler

[@DuBstep115]

how's that aluminium boiler treating you?

[@SunriseLAW]

There is a LOT of 'buzz' surrounding the HiBrew H-10A. I have it in my shopping cart for $273. I would deeply appreciate guidance before pulling the trigger. Any thoughts? Thank you, from Andy in OR

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

I haven't tested it but it's got enough power to extract a great coffee, has a 58mm portafilter and temp stability. The only risk is that it might not last but unfortunately there is no evidence to prove that except time itself. If there's an extended warranty you can purchase, do that. 👌

[@SunriseLAW]

​@@Rydecoffeecoach I worry about the HiBrew electronics. I purchased a DeLonghi Stilosa for $50 a month ago and I use it several times a day. It is good for what it is, but very limited in its abilities. Now that I know I will use a machine daily, it makes sense to upgrade at some point but... so many choices! Thank you for your helpful video.

[@carlosrocha2183]

What about Profitec GO

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

People keep asking this, is it really under $1k? In Australia it's 2k so it appears in my next vid $1-3k.

[@NoZenith]

I'm going to assume you've never used a bambino. It doesn't matter how long you wait. Nothing is going to get hot without pulling a shot. There is absolutely no active heating for the group head. Also, the steaming is better and faster on the stock Breville Bambino Plus as it has a 4-hole steam wand and everyone who's done a review, including James Hoffman, has pointed out how amazing the Bambino Plus steams milk. Mother's Day sale drop the price $100 down to $350 USD and I snagged one because it also comes with a stainless steel portafilter, a better tamper and that stock for hole steam wand and on top of it all the ability to do auto milk if I don't have time. There is nothing stopping you from texturing your own milk and it works beautifully because they give you a decent angle to work with even though you only get the one angle.

[@freerangehuman1976]

My bambino just stopped working after 2 years.

[@thethirdman225]

15:50 Tom’s Coffee Corner has done a series on the Turin Legato/MiiCoffee Apex. Because he’s actually an electrical engineer, he pulled it to bits and looked at all the internal components. Basically, it’s very well built and I got the impression that the quality is there, which will come as a surprise to some people. What he didn’t like about it was the lack of an OPV. What it has instead is an adjustable flow rate, which is a screw under the top, next to the group head. Personally, I don’t know enough to be able to decide on this but the machine seems to be aimed at the Profitec Go but at the price of a GCP. It seems to me that all it needs is an OPV and it should be good but again, I don’t know enough to say. There have been plenty who have criticised it for being made out of Chineseum and - sight unseen, mind you - not being of the quality of the GCP. Tom’s conclusions rather put the lie to this and he called it the GCP killer, which, if you don’t care about resale value, it probably is. He seems to have no concerns about its durability. I’d like to see you review it.

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

Yeh for some reason it isn't in Australia yet and it's been out for a while. I'll reach out to Turin and see if I can get one especially.

[@thethirdman225]

@@Rydecoffeecoach Thanks Ryde. I’ll look forward to seeing your review.

[@rodjets8208]

Turin could be a replacement for my 20yr old Silvia. Thermoblock steam is a great idea!

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

I think you'll be disappointed with the reliability though. Definitely looks like a good machine but longevity will be iffy I think, especially after you've had the Silvia for that long. I mean anything less than 15 years will be a disappointment! 😂

[@el_dani]

Profitec Go - don‘t look further, next budget needs to be 3-4 times bigger for improvement (except you need a second boiler, the it‘s like 2k)

[@bennymozzarella1605]

I thought for sure it would be on the list. Love my GO

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

People keep bringing it up. Is it really under $1k? If so, then yes of course it should be on this list. It's on my next list $1-3k cos in Australia it costs $2k.

[@el_dani]

@@Rydecoffeecoach in US you get it for just under 1k, see Wholelattelove. In Europe anyway..

[@bennymozzarella1605]

@Rydecoffeecoach yeah man $950.00 US. Solid machine 💪

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

@el_dani @bennymozzarella1605 Yeh, I hate that about international markets, just changing the price drastically to fit the market. For $950USD ($1400AUD) is a great price! in Australia they whack an extra $600 on for fun I guess (market size is small so maybe thats what causes it) and this puts it into a different bracket where it loses ground vs other machines with more capabilities. The Breville Dual Boiler is reverse situation though, cheap in Australia and expensive everywhere.

[@ericw4377]

I've never seen a Rancilio Silvia for $999 or equivalent unless it was a modded one with a PID installed. Almost all of them in the UK are between GBP450 - GBP550. The Quick Mill UK price at its lowest is around GBP550 and can go up to GBP700 or more depending where you look.

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

That's great prices. It's probably the exchange rate that bumps it up in US and then again for AUS. I might have to move to England! 😅👌

[@BASSlineXX1207]

I am torn between the Gaggia Classic and the Lelit Anna, thoughts?

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

It's a tough one, but it comes down to what you want to get out of it. The Gaggia is fantastic but basic, no frills out of the box. It is perfect if you are the sort of person who wants to tinker and mod and be part of a community of coffee enthusiasts and engineers alike who can help you get the best out of it. The Anna is not as nice looking (IMO) but has a PID which is much easier to pull a shot consistently. However, it's only 57mm group head size whereas standard is 58mm which makes it hard to find accessories (tampers, baskets, showers, puck screens, etc) and means you invest 100s in tools that when you upgrade you'll most likely have to sell them off for next to nothing. If I was choosing I'd go with the Gaggia but it's such a personal decision that only you can make. Good luck! Hope this helps. 🙌👌

[@BASSlineXX1207]

​@@Rydecoffeecoach thank you Sir, I appreciate you taking the time to reply 😊 as much as I like the technical features of the Lelit (wouldn't mind the 57mm tbh) I'm leaning more towards the Gaggia. The community around it is a huge plus IMO.

[@DuBstep115]

@@Rydecoffeecoach I mean you are buying a machine for 10-15 years for 1000 bucks plus 500 for grinder. I wouldn't worry losing 100 bucks on tamper and basket in the distant future. Most of the stuff is almost free in aliexpress anyway. btw you completely ignored the aluminum boiler of new evo gaggia vs brass on lelit, thats poison, huge fail on gaggia

[@brucesherborne408]

Sunbeam origins machine is pretty good value, dual thermo block, PID controlled, 58 mm group head, inbuilt conical burr grinder, auto dosing, timed extraction, etc. on special $764 at Myer

[@adampoll4977]

The dual thermoblock Sunbeams don't get a lot of attention (probably not available outside Australia the way Breville is). Like you say - fast heat up, PID, steam as you extract, cool-touch manual steam arm and REALLY nice portafilters. Actually really well designed inside - separate compartments with the 2 pumps at the bottom, electronics in the centre (with the water tank almost wrapping around it to keep cool), and the thermoblocks up the top with a lot of thermal mass around the group-head.

[@thomaslivingston5007]

Turin value is amazing can't wait to see them hit Australia

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

Yeh me either! 🙌

[@rad19874812]

Great review. My nespresso pod machine just died (steam wand still working). Currently using the steam wand with my Picopresso. For me the Bambino plus would be better than the base model as my wife would be absolutely against learning to manually steam milk. Whatever I get would have to have an auto milk steaming function uneforetunately. The Turin Legato does pique my interest though, looking forward to seeing your review on it if you do end up getting your hands on one.

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

Yes, that's a good combo: Pico and old steam wand! 👌 I'm sad to hear that about your wife refusing to learn milk. Save yourself $200 and just make your wife her coffee instead. I do that and it brings us closer. Plus, I can send a message when I'm mad by not making a coffee! 😅🤗

[@rickytb15]

About the GAGGIA I heard in a video that the upgrade was the portafilter, i dont know if the material or what, and for the USA machine they ad a spring to get a stable 9 bars. The other thing was the head shower i think change the material. I would like to know if they add pre-infusion. Thanks for the videos Ryde.

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

Hey Ricky! No they didn't add preinfusion but you can hack it by slightly opening the steam valve as you start your extraction. But you're right about the other stuff, the materials are improved. The temperature is much more stable but not perfect.

[@dekdelacruz]

Hi Ryde. What do you think of Rocket espresso compared to profitec? Appreciate your thoughts.

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

Both are great machine manufacturers but which two machines do you want to compare? I think Profitec gives you more bang for your buck until you compare Cinquantotto and 700pro then they are probably on par. But Appartmento vs 400 or something and I'll choose the Profitec just because Rocket has a lot less features.

[@dekdelacruz]

@@Rydecoffeecoach thanks Ryde. I was leaning towards the apartamento because of its size since I live in a condo. But after seeing the profitec go and 300 it kinda gave me some thoughts. Given its size and still uses the 58 protafilter.

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

The Appartmento is a beautiful looking machine but you get a lot more features from the Go and depending on where you live it's a lot cheaper.

[@jamesmclaughlin3460]

I'm 63 retired like simple and basic quality build and performance. Keep it simple stupid type of thinking. Gaggia classic plus changed the spring to 9 bar , rocky grinder good scale time more tamper and distributer, bottomless portafilter, and upgraded baskets. I'm happy ass Hell. Did it all for 12 hundred dollars.

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

Yep, can't really go wrong with that setup! 👌

[@jamesmclaughlin3460]

@@Rydecoffeecoach I'm just happy it does work so well. Fresh beans and alot of practice. And what do you know I'm a home batista lol.

[@loriosterweil982]

Have you ever tried the Gadgelux portable espresso maker? I find that it consistently makes incredible espresso with excellent taste and mouthfeel.

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

No I haven't. I don't think it ships to Australia yet. I'll keep an eye out for it tho!

[@Prato321]

I'm fond of this Ultima Cosa espresso machine I've been using. May you review it sometime? I'm curious of your thoughts

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

Yes interesting looking machine! I can't get them here in Australia. It seems they only ship to USA/CAN but it looks sleek and with all appliances you need to be aware they can just die at anytime (hopefully while still under warranty) and the money isn't worth it to repair it.

[@Jeremy-kg1zr]

I'm looking to buy my first "nicer" espresso machine. I've been using a Starbucks Barista(Saeco) and have a decent burr grinder(better than the espresso machine). What do you prefer about the Gaggia vs the Rancilio? Would you recommend a new Gaggia or used older Rancilio with PID mod and a "tune up" with boiler cleaning, seals, etc? The other machine I'm looking at is the Profitec Go. Have you used it? Budget is ~$1,000. No interest in anything other than 58mm portafilter.

[@paulwarda]

I bought a solis grind and infuse last month and have been struggling to get it dialed in. To make matters worse, there’s not a large community for this brand in the coffee world to try and troubleshoot

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

Sorry to hear that. Have you tried calibrating the grinder? It might be a bit out.

[@unojustaj3562]

So… the Lelit Victoria? Gotcha!

[@MrRickytuk]

You don't have to wait around for your Portafilter to get hot. A good hack is to run a fresh water backflush which heats the group head and the filter. You could also run boiling water from the kettle through the Portafilter.

[@kelly.c23]

Hello! Thank you for your review. I’m in fact looking to purchase a new coffee machine to replace my delonghi (broken as expected). Wondering if you had also looked into gaggia’s expresso models which come with PID and pre infusion? Would you still think the classic model is still a better choice?

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

Do you mean the super automatic machines?I think the other Gaggias are still good but all appliance machines are risky, although you should get 7-10 years from the super automatics. Jura might be slightly easier to use.

[@Semiosphere]

Yo, Ryde, Gaggia came out with a new E24-model with an all brass boiler. Could you do a review on it?

[@valdetgashi1468]

Hello! Thanks for your great videos is it possible to use this MiiCoffee Apex for a small cafeteria, making up to 100 caffe a day, or any of the other machines you mentioned in the video?

[@soumynonareverse7807]

So am I right in saying you don't need a Gagguino mod for the evo to cut off flow as it does it by itself but you do "need" it for temp control?

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

The Gagguino is more like a computer system to controll all sorts of variables. But if you just want to control the temp, you can just install a PID mod. And I think the EVO has much better temp stability than its predecessor but yeh, if you want complete control you'll need PID.

[@soumynonareverse7807]

@@Rydecoffeecoach that's not what I mean, as for short size, do you need external devices like a timer or indeed a Gagguino? As you mentioned it cuts off flow automatically

[@SevdalijaDamir]

Breville can last 20 years. Mine is nearly 11 years old, and never needed any service.

[@paulholmes1181]

Gidday we are black coffee drinkers, beans and water ha. Really want a machine to speed things up in the morning over the bialetti. Dont want or need a milk frother. What would you recommend?? Ps loved your video ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

I would recommend the flair 58+ it's probably the most satisfying way to make espresso and while you boil the water for the portafilter you can also use it for your long blacks. 👌❤️

[@kyleezollinger]

This video was very helpful! 👍🏽

[@cmys001]

Hi can you please do a review of the automatic espresso machine...

[@victor-antonioali378]

I sure hope you can review the Turin Legato soon, I'm really interested in your personal opinion of it!

[@stephenw1799]

Don't expect much support if the Turin goes wrong, their website is full of broken links for international sellers. Maybe they are getting setup but not a great sign.

[@coreymbonge9532]

why no mention of the fully manual levers, Leverpresso Pro, Flair 58 or the Robot?

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

I think it got cut due to time. I did review Flairs but not sure what happened. I don't rate the robot unfortunately, I've just never had the best results on it, comparatively. Same with the Rok.

[@benceszabo668]

The interesting thing in Hungary Lelit Victoria is under 1k and the Ranchilio is over 1k. I will go with Lelit

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

Yeh so bizarre, but Lelit is great so you can't go wrong.

[@JD.007]

is the gaggia boiler safe?

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

Yes it should be. It's Teflon coated so it should last for decades without corroding.

[@Abdullah-cj2mh]

When you Google it you’ll see that many people are reporting the boiler’s Teflon coating flaking, so I’m just waiting a little for some news or something that they would fix it. It’s quite unfortunate that’s it’s almost a perfect machine for the price but it had to be held back by a crappy boiler.

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

@@Abdullah-cj2mh yes there was one batch through whole lotta latte which had flaking but that was a particular date 6/11/2023 but I haven't heard of any more.

[@tomrender89]

Great video. You've got the Flair in the links, but it's not mentioned in the video? What are your thoughts on that one, please? I'm pretty keen on getting a manual machine. And on that note, would you say the PicoPresso makes the same level of quality as something like the Gaggia? Thanks.

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

Oh it may have accidentally been cut for time but I did have a section on the flair series and I really rate them. Far and away the best value is the flair 58 Electric and I did a video reviewing that. I really loved the process. 🤟 The Picopresso makes a very similar extraction to the Gaggia and for the price I think it's amazing and unbeatable quality.

[@tomrender89]

Thanks for the reply. Think I need to decide between the PicoPresso or go wild and get the Flair haha

[@nicktaylor4642]

In my opinion, if you enjoy a more traditional shot, you will probably like the pico. If you like more control and better workflow, get the flair. I have the gaggia and the flair 58 and i can tell you that i have loved the espresso that ive gotten from the flair. I find myself almost also choosing the flair over the gaggia now unless i want a flat white. The workflow, the design, the satisfaction all for me make the flair super worth it. Not to mention with the flair and the pressure gauge, you can follow alot of modern espresso recipes and experiment with your own.

[@tomrender89]

@@nicktaylor4642 thanks for the reply, super interesting. I've seen the Pico now has a gauge available too. So I think I'm leaning that way as there's around a $400 difference in cost haha. That said, I am keen on the Flair. Why do they makes it so hard to choose haha.

[@nicktaylor4642]

@@tomrender89 oh nice, i did not know that, then with that being said its probably more of a affordable vs workflow. Both offer great convenience and the pico is super portable. For me i was debating a few manual espresso brewers but workflow is such an important part for me and being able to have a machine that is manual and can also plug in to preheat in 5 minutes and have a portafilter that also uses all the accessories that I have for my gaggia. It was an easy decision and one that i dont regret. I am completely biased to say flair haha but either or are a great choice. Also flair has a refurbished section on their website for discounted machines

[@wilsentwins]

No love for rok presso sir?

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

Unfortunately I haven't had a great time with the Rok. I don't mind it but I just like the other machines out there similar to it a lot better. I do like some things about the Rok but I don't love love the coffee from it. 😢

[@frapp31]

Just wanting to know if the gaggia evo now has 9 bar extraction on the new model as appose to 15 on the classic. I know in Nth America its the case but not sure in Australia

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

It should be 9bars at the group head, 15bar at the boiler.

[@frapp31]

@Rydecoffeecoach thanks. Thinking of maybe getting the lelit anna with the pid now. Lol

[@DJaquithFL]

In a "typical" home, four people: parents and two coffee drinking children .. $999 Breville Touch. From pushing the button on to having a latte in under 2 minutes, skill sets from novice to expert, obviously grinder included and integrated. Here's my experience from so-called experts steaming milk .. they never get the temperature correct not even close. Sure it's easy to foam half-arsed milk. The next step to have any real noticeable taste changes pushes you into the thousands. $400-$1K+ grinders and products like Profitec, Decent Espresso, etc.

[@SevdalijaDamir]

La Marzoccos are appliances as well, according to the definition of that word.

[@Chasingghosts23]

Why reference US pricing

[@Kadoom1131]

I tried all those machines here and the best by far it s the Leilit Anna and on second comes the Gaggia which will need some modding to reach Leilit’s level .

[@elsaarad6996]

I think the ECM Casa V and the Profitec Go should have been included. I have the ECM and am verry happy with it.

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

Yep they both make the list from $1k+. Not sure what country you're in but if you can get the Profitec Go for under $1k you should definitely get it! They cost $2k in Australia.

[@MrMartyn1212]

Bambino +,niche zero,ultimate combination for around 1k ,no surfing

[@littlestar5737]

Gaggia classic pro with pid mod. It beats every other machine. Hands down. Profitec, rocket and others are very expensive to maintain and repair. Don't bother. Best part about Gaggia is that the online community. Your every question will get answered. No matter how silly or tough.

[@DuBstep115]

Holy hell this video makes no sense to europe. Bambino plus here is 600€ or 663usd and Lelit anna with PID is 575€ or 636 usd Why they use 57mm? Same reason why Porsche won't put 911 engine in cayman, you would get better car for cheaper. How would you sell your more expensive machines if cheaper one has PID and 58mm?

[@lesliekorodi70]

1k USD or 1k AUD ? Make your mind up

[@Rydecoffeecoach]

😅 it's not that I'm not making my mind up, I'm trying to cover both types of audience. You see, from my experience posting videos for the last two years, I've learned that nobody really pays proper attention to the currency so if I talk in Aussie dollars, US residents think I'm talking USD. So, to help out everyone I've kept it within the range of under 1k USD. I really don't know why that bothers you though.