What Cybertruck CAN'T Do | In Depth

[@user-to2rf1rj5v]

Wes (lead CT engineer) has said on X that the outlet use while charging thing is being updated in a coming software update.

[@RealSmalesh]

I’m actually surprised Z & J aren’t aware of this tweet from Wes !

[@hwirtwirt4500]

The yet to come update is always the excuse.

[@domg7359]

@@hwirtwirt4500 Yeah but it comes. Just like the off-road features were delivered. You're gonna be able to use 2000W while charging.

[@oldfarthacks]

It comes to this, the software people who were writing that section of code are not people who get out away from the basement that often. I myself am close to that, but then I have also done real world engineering and so would have written the code to allow for the outlets to run during charging. My thought would have been in the off road world, where you might want to run an Air Conditioner in the outback but have also brought along a whole bunch of solar panels. Those will be outputting DC, which you could wire up to make 800 volts and do fast charging. Anyway, it's just a bug in the software and an easy fix.

[@kellymoses8566]

Tesla really needs to actually finish their cars before selling them.

[@mattaspenrandall9703]

Out of spec reached out to tesla on X awhile ago and they said it will be enabled via a software update. something todo with the neutral wire is why its currently disabled

[@D0li0]

Oh please please please let this be the case. I can't wait. It was very handy to be able to do this with my Lightning.

[@mounirdellagi7091]

What cant be fixed by a Software update? 😃

[@LouisFerreira]

It’s been enabled with the latest update.

[@sparkysho-ze7nm]

2diff circuits sharing neutral uh huh

[@youtubecommenter-on9kd]

Yeah, but as much as I appreciate Zac and Jessie, they don't research as well as they should...

[@CL-gq3no]

A VERY useful scenario is powering your home continuously during an extended power outage from the truck, but using a generator to recharge the "buffer" for a few hours each day. This has two big advantages... 1) You only have to run the generator for a short time each day to make up for previous 24 hours usage, instead of running it 24/7. 2) You can use a small/cheap 120v generator, but not have to worry about overloading it since everything is running from the much more capable truck inverter. The generator only has to keep up with the average over a period of time. Same would be true for an off grid cabin situation. I live in FL and deal with hurricanes, so I was actually hoping to be able to do exactly this. Kind of disappointed this is not currently possible.

[@CL-gq3no]

​After thinking about this a bit, I think it's intentional and designed to prevent people from doing energy arbitrage with their cybertruck. I can't think of any other good reason for it to be disabled only when AC charging, but enabled for DC charging. If it were enabled, a Cybertruck would be roughly the storage equivalent of 10 Powerwalls.

[@user-et9ph1mi8d]

And it is done for safety reasons to avoid strange wiring e.g. with solarcells

[@BrisbaneTeslaGuy]

Great point but if you can afford a cybertruck you should be able to afford a powerwall especially in a place where there are floods which the powerwall operates in water

[@CL-gq3no]

@@user-et9ph1mi8d, how would thos stop "strange wiring"? Solar cells are DC which have nothing to do with disabling AC charging.

[@CL-gq3no]

@@BrisbaneTeslaGuy, the problem with telling people to "just buy a powerwall" is... - A powerwall setup will be another $10k to $20k, competitors have this feature for free. - A powerwall is stuck at one location. A cybertruck could be used anywhere. - A powerwall requires permits/pro installation. A lot to ask for a rare emergency use case. - A cybertruck is not 1 or 2 powerwalls worth of storage. It's closer to 10. Flooding is not an issue for me, but powerwalls and Cybertrucks can both handle those scenarios pretty well. The issue were I live is lots of downed powerlines taking several days to repair. If my home was flooded I would shut off the power and leave anyway.

[@SmallVansBigWorld]

I have been very curious about this exact thing. My unique scenario is that, I'd like to run my whole off grid shop from the cyber truck. And then during the day use a large solar array and an all in one inverter to charge the truck. The benefit here would be, charging the truck essentially straight from solar, but not having to have additional batteries with the off grid system to run the shop.

[@dougmaclean3264]

i am a 30 year contractor.The situation of having to charge while needing outlets to run something.Never.

[@jameshisself9324]

An inverter does not make DC from AC, that would be a rectifier. They could design a module that did both and for simplicity's sake say they were running the inverter in reverse, but that is not exactly how it works. 2 different circuits and functions.

[@D0li0]

I came here to say this... Ac chargers are NOT INVERTERS, rather they are rectifiers. Yes, they might take that 100~200v rectified DC and then need to boost it up for the 400v pack, or they could use a transformer on the incoming AC to step it up first... The point is, a 400vdc from the pack to the 110+110 (220vac) 40amp inverter almost definitely has to be a separate device. Also, stop calling the AC chargers "inverters", they are rectifiers. Inverters do the opposite. They are completely different processes. A rectifier at it's core is just a set of big diodes.

[@rogerheuckeroth7456]

@@D0li0 A rectifier is just the the initial stage of a charger. Then you essentially have many of the same components as an Inverter along with some toroidal coils to boost the voltage to the desired voltage then another rectifier to turn it back into DC. So its AC-DC-AC-DC in reality.

[@D0li0]

@@rogerheuckeroth7456 true true. It's the rectification than makes the ac>dc different from a dc>ac conversion...

[@yscol1313]

If the switching components are IGBTs rather than diodes, the same circuit can be used in reverse for both rectifying and inverting. It can be done on the same circuit. I don’t know for sure whether this is what Tesla are doung in the CT though - Wes already said AC charging + outlet use will be enabled in future software update.

[@jameshisself9324]

@@yscol1313 Agreed, and it sounded to me that they weren't using an IGBT design for the same reason you stated.

[@arleneallen8809]

It's hard to tell from the video, but did you check to see that the Rivian and Lightning were actually charging? The software could interlock without having to disconnect the charge cable.

[@alanf945]

The concept of this video is great. You find a use case for something that ppl may want to do and test it against all 3 trucks. Over time I think you guys will be able to come up with quite the list of pros/cons for each truck and it would be a great reference for prospective buyers. I think the title of this video would make a great series, i.e. as you guys use the truck keep a running list of things that you wish it could do but it can't (and then determine if the other two can do those things) or maybe even just a 'grinds my gears' gripe list of anything you wish was better with the CT. Like possibly the bed; I know it's very functional but I feel like the ford still beats it in that category (also in the frunk category as well). CT is amazing and overall most likely is or will eventually be the overall winner of the three (esp once that price comes down..) but it obviously doesn't tick all the boxes and there are some things that Tesla chose not to do that would have been amazing (midgate!). The more of this type of content is out there and is on the radar for tesla who knows, perhaps they make those changes in future versions of the truck and it truly becomes the one truck to rule them all.

[@paulhampel8084]

When do we just say Cybertruck is a manufacturing mistake held together by modern marketing? It is twice budget and way below promises while tarnishing Tesla's reputation as a vehicle manufacturer. Fanboys don't like that, but the cybertruck is proof of that.

[@mac26s]

I use a NEMA 14-50 Splitter at my campsite. 25A for 5th wheel (& tools), 16A for M-Y & 14A Cushion.

[@sparkysho-ze7nm]

Smart smart smart plumber wanna be

[@jonathanterranova448]

Maybe cyber truck will update With feature. Until then charge at lunch. The only thing I'm thinking is Using and charging at job site. Good job FORD and Rivian.

[@jonathanterranova448]

Does the outlet work when you're driving down the freeway?. For the refrigerator.

[@gavcnr]

That camping scenario doesn’t work. While charging your truck, you can use a splitter to charge both your truck and fridge along with anything else.

[@massimo7219]

Disappointing to see the CT unable to power tools while charging. Doesn’t seem like a big ask

[@Seabass101]

An Inverter converts DC to AC. A Rectifier converts AC to DC. Normally, they have completely different components. I think it's more likely that it can be enabled via a software update later. One big reason to keep outlets off while charging was probably current draw and spikes to the battery while charging. Using power tools as an example can make your house lights flicker. Those power spikes and drips to the battery, probably isn't good. Also, with the new batteries in the cybertruck, Tesla may not have enough data to understand how power spikes and dips can affect the life of the battery.

[@joelm077]

I only see this as a camping issue when trying to charge and run lights or something for camp.

[@mullholand]

You two are the best! Sometimes your content is a little slow BUT the explanation and "color" you add make it worth listening to every minute!

[@vaxt]

AC to DC conversion cannot just be done in reverse. AC to DC typically will use a full bridge rectifier plus some smoothing to get DC, and they'll also need to do some kind of voltage booster to get to battery pack voltage. To get AC from DC typically you'll have to have a bunch of MOSFETS or IGBTS to generate a sine wave using PWM, there might also have to be some AC transformers involved for voltage conversion. These are very different circuits.

[@yscol1313]

Not entirely true. The IGBTs can also be used to rectify. I’ve designed Inverter Rectifiers on the same circuit using IGBTs… all you need is an intelligent pulse/sig gen into the IGBTs.

[@lunatik9696]

@@yscol1313 Thx, I have not seen that specific circuit, but it is not hard to imagine.

[@billthorp3850]

If you are charging the vehicle and then you add more load to the charging circuit, by using the vehicle outlet, it could overload the charging supply ..

[@ingemarmoen6062]

If/when it can work as a grid tied home battery it should also be possible to charge and use outlets at the same time. At the moment it only works as home backup. Grid tied inverters need to synchronise frequency, and that may or may not be a software problem

[@SkepticalCaveman]

Well, home DC chargers do actually exist even though they are rare. This would only solve the issue while charging at home though.

[@Jmoksmok]

Something fun to know, the circuit that turns AC to DC to charge s battery is called a Rectifier. An Inverter circuit turns DC to AC.

[@yscol1313]

And if you use IGBTs rather than diodes, the same circuit can be used for both. I’ve made one.

[@EmpatheticOne]

Half a second to send a text to the car, pretty cool!

[@paulclementyonkers4604]

Jesse's explanation makes perfect sense. Tesla's mantra is,"the best part is no part." So, already having an inverter onboard to charge the drive train batteries, makes perfect sense to reverse the direction to run AC tools. As Jesse said, it saves an extra part and extra weight. Alternatively, many power tools run on DC. Maybe if Tesla could make DC outlets for DC tools, this would save the power tool industry--as it would make AC inverters on DC tools unnecessary and drive cost of production of these tools down.

[@hwirtwirt4500]

One less part is cheaper and pads Elon's pocketbook.

[@user-et9ph1mi8d]

I think tesla wants to sell its powerwall because if u can use ac sockets while charging u could create your own home storage even with solarcells connected without buying the powerwall. But it also helps to prevent some stupid and dangerous wiring if u add more solarcells than the cybertruck can handle or the battery is full u might burn down everything if u use the outlet to power your offgrid cabin, add solarcells while charging the truck. By the way u could try what happens with the ford if u create such a system with solarcells and the battery gets full and the energy can not go anywhere. Usually the inverter of the car must shift the frequency so that the solarcell inverters are switching themselves off if the battery is full. That is at least what offgrid solar battery systems are doing. The problem ist that the car does not necessarily know that it is operating in such a configuration as an offgridsystem with solarcells while charging itself with the same system. Thats why i think it is very dangerous what ford and rivian did to allow such a configuration. If the tesla powerwall is in between it would shut off the solarenergy if the battery is full and it operates in offgrid mode.

[@byteafterbyte]

All of my battery banks from lead acid to LiFePO can still be used while charging. There is no good excuse for this shortcoming!

[@dvwatts]

You can’t just turn the Ford’s power On with the button on in the bed. You first have to turn the truck fully ON with the brake and the on button in the cab. Then you have to leave the truck On and turn off AC if you don’t want that running.

[@NordicProspecting]

plz run charging cord from ford outlet into ford charging port and see what happens

[@byronstuckless4140]

The mini refrigerators made for the sump trunk of the Model Y runs on DC… it should run normally while charging. It seems to be a no-brainer. (AC turns off when plug goes in charge port… DC continues to run)

[@pierre.a.larsen]

The great series: "Testing what nobody else tests" continues. Way to go.

[@soucyno1]

I’m not sure if this sarcasm, but I will use this info. I make extra cash on the side and using the outlets to charge while driving to run my chainsaw or mowers/weed eaters would also be good to know if I can do. The one in my Dodge currently does this. I run an extension cord through the back window (in case it rains) to my chargers.

[@pierre.a.larsen]

@@soucyno1 oops, I suppose this could be understood as sarcastic. No sarcasm. I think it is great to test this!

[@richiehart7858]

It would be best if the outlets in the truck worked while any level of charging, AC or DC, is plugged in. It would be best if drawing power from any of the outlets does not cause charging to be interrupted. This is especially true when the loads being powered from the outlets are low power but are active a large proportion of the time.

[@JoelSapp]

For AC charging and no AC plugs, that makes sense. You have access to AC, just plug the tool to the house at that point. Its a weird use case where you would need to use your car as an extension cord.

[@mikebalentine]

Yeah it’s such a niche thing it seems rather weird to focus on it I cannot envision a scenario where it would be relevant.

[@CL-gq3no]

Not really. A VERY useful use case is powering your home continuously during an extended power outage from the truck, but using a generator to recharge the "buffer" for a few hours each day. This has two big advantages... 1) You only have to run the generator for a short time each day to make up for previous 24 hours usage, instead of running it 24/7. 2) You can use a small/cheap 120v generator, but not have to worry about overloading it since everything is running from the much more capable truck inverter. The generator only has to keep up with the average over a period of time. Same would be true for an off grid cabin situation. I live in FL and deal with hurricanes, so I was actually hoping to be able to do exactly this. Kind of disappointed this is not currently possible.

[@mikebalentine]

@@CL-gq3no you apparently are not aware you are not supposed to charge an EV with a generator. The power output they provide is not high quality and can damage the EV. It in fact can void your warranty. Edit: especially the cheap crap you are referring to. If you are not a fool you could run a refrigerator for weeks off the Cybertruck battery and never need to charge it at all. The average fridge uses ~1.5 kwh per day with over 100 kwh available kind of defeats your argument. I live in Louisiana these storms are never a surprise. Just charge to 95-100% before it hits and if power goes out you are completely fine till it comes back on.

[@oji2691]

@@CL-gq3no from generator to EV to house that is inefficient lost energy because EV need to use inverter to power the house should be from generator to house to EV

[@CL-gq3no]

@@mikebalentine, I'm talking about an inverter generator. They often have smoother output than grid power in some places and are safe for electronics.

[@moonthief869]

What about the Cybertruck interior outlets? The AC charger on the Cybertruck is right next to both the charge port and the bed outlets so kind of makes sense to dual use it where as on the Ford and Rivian the charge port is at the front far from the bed outlets. Also might be interesting to see if the frunk outlets in the ford work while AC charging?

[@TNRVG]

Can you have a fridge plugged in while driving? What about a freezer? What about a 240v air conditioner or other major thing?

[@eugenetsar3622]

5:30 I think this will be available with an extendable battery in the bed of the truck

[@erikowren7894]

I like they you guys picked a dangerous tool to demonstrate. 👍🏻 thank you. ❤

[@soucyno1]

I wonder if you can charge while you are driving home. Portable batteries for drills or circular saws that draw very little so can charge to or from work or both. This way you can charge these small items on the trip to/from.

[@DishNetworkDealerNEO]

So you need a Bluetooth controlled, Charging cutoff relay, to allow the truck to be physically connected to the camping AC Supply, to allow the output to be enabled. Tesla could eliminate the need for such a device by creating a choice, to stop charging even though the CyberTruck senses AC Present, and ignore it and operate the outlet. In the case of a cube camping refrigerator. The CyberTruck could be programmed to cycle between charging and running the AC output at a 50-50 duty cycle, allowing the fridge adequate run time, such as 15 minutes charge, 15 minutes Power Outlets. Now all of that is doable in CyberTruck software.

[@Balo1997]

They probably use the inverter so its already in use while charging. Since it is not needed to DC charge, that is why the outlets are available while DC charging.

[@Thomas_Acharya]

8:40 yes. That would be good for fridges on trips.

[@youtubemakesmedothis7280]

My big question is if you have mains power to charge the truck, why the hell don't you just plug your power tool into the mains? And you might want to check the cost and mass of inverters; your guesses are pretty high.

[@matthewholzmueller6292]

One thing thing CT can't do is bring your pet hamster back to life 😢....I tried.

[@peterwookie7779]

Do the outlets work while driving.

[@thomasreese2816]

They should

[@jaybee3165]

I have a reputable source who works at tesla- the cybertruck DOES use a bi-directional inverter system.

[@CraigMcDonald1234]

great analysis. thanks guys.

[@StephenJamieson]

Talked with tesla this morning and they said that solar to the cybertruck can be DC to DC, its the only tesla that allows for DC to DC charging.

[@teatowel11]

Great comparison and speculation on why. It makes sense but is disappointing.

[@bobbyharris9341]

Cooling Essie’s for battery I think

[@trampfossil]

you should be able to DC charge with solar might take a special charge controller.

[@tfragia1]

See rectifier in other comments. I can't afford a Cybertruck or fit one in my garage anyway. I'll keep using my Model 3 refresh. 🙂

[@JeepAndThings]

That was a good find!

[@alex54545]

Test out the vision parking with the front camera please…

[@user-et9ph1mi8d]

You can try what happens to the ford or rivian if u add a 30kW solarinverter with solarcells while the socket is used to create an offgrid system while charging itself. Then u understand why tesla deactivated it for safety reasons 😂

[@GTStrane]

I am not sure if they will ever enable outlets while AC charging, but back when the CT was newer, Kyle at Out of Spec tested them and they didn't work at all during any charging, Drew Baglino responded on X saying there will be an update to enable outlets while charging, I guess that update came but only for DC?

[@ronaldflorence8104]

Can the plug inside the cab work when charging?

[@111ch1a1d111]

For the off grid cabin example, that would be a reason for the PV system at the cabin to output DC to the CT.

[@michaelschend8785]

always enjoy your show

[@jarrodvsinclair]

I agree with Jesse, I think this is because the inverter is used for Vehicle to grid and for powering the outlets. So when connected to AC it is disabled becasue its ready to flow back to the house. If you were connected to supercharger ii bet they would work

[@terrancevangemert7508]

On the Cyber Truck can take DC in and have the AC out and Tesla says one can so plug in DC from solar panels.. Here is the Tricky part... 480 volts is needed to DC Charging and I am not sure what the protocol is which post is pos and which is Negative. So that being said. Put up solar panels in series till 480 volts is Reached. Most solar panels can be purchased in 48 volts or 24 volts. 24 volt panels it would take 20 panels or 10 of 48 volt dc panels. However care must be taken when working with 480 volts DC... It can and will kill.

[@RedRouge-j4j]

An AC 110/240VAC in and 400VDC out being used in reverse? Maybe Tesla have it in the same box, bi-directional via a few unique different parts of the circuitry yes. But simply as described, I think not. Tesla designed their own inverter, so didn't have to buy in two things.

[@lunatik9696]

Saying running a charger/ inverter in reverse is to the best of my knowledge incorrect. It is not a transformer. They are 2 different circuits. One converts AC to DC, the other converts DC to AC. There could be both in a single system, but they are separate modules. In those allowing the AC while charging, it could be a simple pass thru. I believe Tesla made their decision based more for safety than cheapness or oversight.

[@starshipdriver8536]

Can you do a video on how to secure lumbar with the tailgate down?

[@patrickfavier4310]

Cheap, light and simple inverters have a diode rectifier, to convert AC to DC. This is simpke and efficient, but does fysically does not work in reverse. Impossible. To have a charger that works in reverse, you need an so called active front end inverter, that uses electronic switches to convert both ways. More complex, more expensive and more difficult to control. Tesla probably does not use the charger as the outlet inverter is my guess.

[@DaveBoxBG]

Do the outlets run while the truck is moving

[@The_DuMont_Network]

Good Question...

[@mielu_gazos]

OMG, safety first: don't point the cutting edge of the tool towards you during the test... we still need you around!

[@spencer_d2768]

If im able to charge the CT at home, why would I want to use it to run other things instead of just plugging in those very things directly to reg outlet? Lol

[@valienterf]

I think all three Trucks are good, now Tesla may not be set to work the same way the other two, but us not is broken but designed thw tway. Now that can be fixed and i am more incline to the ford, base on what a friend has experience with the 150. Now i rather have the cool looking. No worry of others opinions as most of these people are confused, so confused that they hate Elon and love lies and inflation. Great video.

[@NickWindham]

Sounds like you could DC charge from solar while using power outlets.

[@McMahonSteve]

You don't need to run the fridge for 20 minutes while supercharging, it'll hold temp.

[@blainedalby8634]

So, how much water depth can the cyber truck ford? Is it different if it’s salt water? A common event is fording streams while off roading and wading through deep puddles during torrential storms. Common things I have done many times with my ice vehicles over the decades.

[@LeviathantheMighty]

Damn! A Cybertruck off-grid battery would have been awesome.

[@JFlywheel]

When you want to charge your Cyber Truck off your Cybertruck and it does not work.

[@jozefroman2110]

big minus for the Cybertruck. This is what I'm starting to not like about Tesla going with cost savings to far. No stalks on Model 3, no power for outlets on Cybertruck while AC charging is bad, really bad 😞

[@user-et9ph1mi8d]

It is for safety to avoid some stupid wiring e.g. with solarcells

[@animistchannel]

So that makes the Cybertruck the catagorically safer vehicle, which is typical of Tesla. Running large current into and out of a battery like this at the same time is just begging for major damage or catastrophic failure -- like leaky go boom fire horrible toxic fumes, or at least a serious reduction in lifespan. Maybe it's okay with really hi-pressure DC because the relative current outbound is so minimal by compare, but batteries really don't like to be "a river to the people" as a flow-through device in general. IF this is no longer true with modern batteries, then that is a change.

[@drpaci]

Tesla's "we will fix SW site later, let's sell them right away" is a small disapointment, but on the other site, they so far proved to be at least 2x more capable to OTA update vehicles even with features not known or anticipated beforehand. My question to your testing setup (with consideration to your 2 usecases of slow AC charging + fast battery discharging) is - did you checked, if battery was source of energy, instead of AC charging outlet?

[@yuriandrigani]

if you are charging AC. then you already have excess power from your outlet. at that point you are just using the EV as a giant expensive terminal.

[@deltoncbaker]

The trouble is that a ground loop could potentially damage the truck inverter. It could be the Ford inverter may have the necessary protection circuits and Cybertruck doesn't.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

That one is easy to detect. Every 110/220V Charger does it all the time.

[@kensmith5694]

The Cyber Truck is more expensive and bigger and heavier isn't it? I suspect it was just a thing that got overlooked.

[@dragosmihai1001]

I do not understand how you can compare those trucks, FORD and Rivian are loosing money on those trucks, a lot of money.... maybe even Tesla is losing money on their trucks.. you can't compare them, unless you know this

[@mikeclark3045]

a charge cord with an inverter (rectifier) built in would solve this. really no reason to build the inverter into the car anyway, you're either charging at home or at a dc fast charger, just build the inverter into the charge cord so the ev always gets dc. also, would be cool to have an at home dc charging option anyway for people with solar backup batteries, maybe even built into power wall. since each inverter is a loss of 2-5% really adds up when charging an ev. instead of. home backup batteries (dc) > inverter - charger (ac) > inverter - vehicle battery (dc) it could be. home backup batteries (dc) > charger (dc) > vehicle battery (dc)

[@aronandreas]

Tesla can charge when dc charging, not ac... Most likely can charge from solar and power your house

[@npridgeon]

I heard that there are 2 charging ports (maybe I've been misled). Can you charge the car twice as fast by using both?

[@fgeiger41]

Is it because Rivian and Ford both still have 12v DC batteries for accessories?

[@diegoolivarez1]

Y’all couldn’t use a blow dryer, or a fan?!?! That angle grinder keeps giving me the heebie jeebies!!!

[@MultiVfc]

Jessy is correct! Tesla uses the same inverter for charging and for the outlets.

[@gasdorficmuncher9943]

Alien muskrat

[@td389]

Why not use a light instead of the grinder. Just a safer tool to test.😊

[@mohammedabdulahi7894]

Could it be a safety issue for the batteries wouldn't damage or shorten the life of the battery. Like you aren't supposed to plug in your phone while using it.

[@Pentix51]

do the outlets work while driving in all of the trucks?

[@chriauc2976]

Can I charge truck with small generator thru the bed while driving ? So I can get farther 4x4?

[@mountainmantesla4395]

Why would you ever need to use the outlets. You either have power or need power. Never both.

[@larrylong9367]

Suppose you have an induction cooker ... and want to heat up some grits ?

[@mountainmantesla4395]

@@larrylong9367plug it into the wall next to the charger.

[@rkeithlloyd]

Will the interior outlets work while charging?

[@johnlynch5007]

Interesting thanks guys

[@AhBeeDoi]

I was wondering how the CT is so much cheaper than either the Rivian or the Lightning.

[@FSDdriver]

The cyber truck is sick.... Until everyone has one and they can't do truck things with it.

[@dmpease01]

When charging from an AC outlet to charge a DC battery, the circuit changes alternating AC to DC. This is minimally done with some diodes that allow current to run only in one direction, thus AC to DC. When you want to go from DC to AC, you need a completely different circuit to take DC (Direct Current) and make AC (Alternating Current) which requires a circuit to switch the voltage to make AC. This is what they referred to as an "Inverter". You don't need an inverter to go from AC (The voltage is already inverting) to DC. A vehicle withOUT AC outlets doesn't have a need for an Inverter. Thise are completely DIFFERENT circuits. Thus, I disagree that the circuit used to use AC to charge the DC battery can be 'reversed' to create AC from a DC battery.

[@altosack]

Diodes aren’t used anymore to convert AC to DC; synchronous transistors (IGBTs, actually) are used, which can be used bi-directionally. Any grid-tied inverter is in fact a bi-directional AC-DC and DC-AC converter (inverter).

[@vaxt]

Agreed. I should've looked at the comments before posting... I posted the exact same thing just now, haha.

[@yscol1313]

This is incorrect. If IGBTs are used instead of rectifying diodes, it can be reversed. I’ve made one.

[@dmpease01]

@@yscol1313 Interesting. How do you get the alternating current from DC with an IGBT?

[@yscol1313]

@@dmpease01 switching the dc on and off with the IGBT and smoothing to sinusoid with capacitors/inductors

[@howardholt3530]

Guys if you're at your office grid cabin where's the ac?

[@AxelNotHuman]

What ever happened to the 500+ Mile CT? 😅

[@shaylennaidoo]

The fact that you are making an excuse for Tesla here shows how “unbiased” this show is. 😂 I only tune in for fanboy Tesla information. Credibility score lowered. People want to use their vehicle in the most efficient and convenient way possible. This isn’t that

[@hemaccabe4292]

Tesla also forgot to have the two most important features for me which they promised, exoskeleton and ramp.

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The CT is able to DC charge and charge another vehicle (I think Kim w/the T Sportline crew posted a video awhile back about it). I think they were also able to charge 5 vehicles (1 via the 240v, outlet in the bed the remainder via the 120v outlets) all from the CT ☝🏼😎. Jesse has a good point. Camping is where this feature would be most useful. However according to Elon “rhe best part is no part”. 🤔.