What Did We Learn This Generation?

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This next console gen has been a long time coming.
The Xbox 360, PS3 and Wii - collectively known as the seventh generation - have steered the course of the industry since 2005.
Much has changed over the last eight years in gaming - and as we perch on the precipice of a new era, perhaps it's a time for retrospection.
So, what did we learn from this generation?
The most obvious change with the advent of new hardware is in the technical specification - each generation is faster and more capable than the last.
At the time of the current gen's introduction, HDTVs were starting to become widely available - and the Xbox 360 and PS3 both took advantage of this by supporting HD video formats.
This wasn't without issue - in 2005 standard-def CRTs were still very common, and some games ran into issues when running at the lower resolution - many complained about the small text in Dead Rising, for instance.
However, with HDTVs dropping in price over the console's lifespan, many made the switch to such displays, and the next generation is all set to embrace an HD-only approach.
We also saw a good old format war in the early-gen: Sony's Blu Ray versus Toshiba's ill-fated HD-DVD.
The PS3's Blu Ray drive made it an attractive offering for those looking for an entry-level HD player, with even the exorbitant launch price proving competitive.
Microsoft released the half-hearted add-on HD-DVD player for the 360, although after a brief flounder Blu-Ray became the dominant format, and will indeed be the optical media of choice for both the Xbox One and PS4.
Quite how long physical media will remain relevant is another matter - digital downloads and streaming services such as Netflix are unburdened by such concerns.
It seems as though redundant hardware is a recurring trend in Gen7, with games such as Guitar Hero and Rock Band clogging up homes with fake plastic guitars.
Rhythm games were a fun diversion while they lasted, but for a more persistent peripheral you need to look to motion controllers.
The Wii proved phenomenally popular with its Wiimote-nunchuck combo - and Microsoft and Sony followed suit in arm flailing fashion, with the Kinect and Move respectively.
Well suited to certain genres - dancing games and casual party games spring to mind - but such forms of input can be a little less precise for games that demand fine-grained control.
It seems as though motion controls aren't going anywhere just yet, however - the Kinect is returning with a next-gen upgrade, and the Wii U and PS4 both retain support for their equivalent.
This gen also saw the widespread acceptance of online gaming - the Xbox 360 built on the impressive inroads the original Xbox made with Xbox LIVE, and the PS3 found fully-fledged online support in place of the limited selection on the PS2.
Online multiplayer was very much a killer app for this generation, with titles such as Halo and Call of Duty giving rise to thriving online communities - and inspiring many to emulate their success.
Co-operative games have proven popular too - with 4 players proving the gold standard in titles like Borderlands and Left 4 Dead: and the less-competitive space is ideal for the enjoyment of social gaming.
Voice chat is now a default means of communication, helped particularly on the Xbox 360 by bundled inclusion of headset and the early availability of party chat.
Gaming is now very much a social platform, with shared spaces interlinked by a suite of communication means.
The world might not be quite ready for a mandatory always-online console, but we are certainly getting closer than ever before.
One side effect of this connectivity is the emergence of the digital marketplace - with DLC taking the place of the expansion packs of yore.
This was a reluctant introduction met with many missteps, perhaps most notably with Oblivion's Horse Armor DLC - an aesthetic upgrade for your equine chum costing a few of your hard-earned dollars.
These electronic offerings did improve, however - and there have been some very memorable extensions to games that have been more fairly priced.
The online marketplace also permits a scalable price point - all the way from a full price AAA title, through smaller-scope indie games and stand-alone arcade titles - to games which don't require any initial investment at all.
Free-to-play games have found the greatest success on the PC, but in recent months we've seen a slew of such titles announced for the consoles - and it's likely they'll feature on the next-gen platforms too.
Such offerings are supported by in-game purchases - sometimes for cosmetic purposes, otherwise to eliminate a grind for resources or to grant a more obvious advantage.

[@Booksds]

"The traditional pay-up-front model may mean you're not hounded to make purchases in-game" Man, 2013 was like an alternate universe

[@ArcticTemper]

We were so innocent, so simple.

[@SJNaka101]

Booksds oh man was battlefront 2 out yet when you posted this comment? Lmao

[@MrSammyTeee]

You can say that again

[@AdmiralTails]

The shift was already underway at the time though, with DLC being prominent and paid game microtransactions already showing their faces, making that statement a little bit odd.

[@jojolafrite90]

I feel sick. I just puked in my mouth.

[@pieisgood235]

Is there any chance we're gonna get a "Lessons learned from Generation 8" in the coming month?? love your content, my dude!

[@slitthroat6209]

Yeah even now we Have PS5 and XSX

[@jibblydibbles]

@@slitthroat6209 and new graphics cards

[@slitthroat6209]

@@jibblydibbles yeah i forgot about those

[@SirNarax]

Not a whole lot has changed. Kind of in the same place we were in 6 years ago.

[@ummmhelp]

god I hope

[@tboi5826]

I'm not gonna buy a console, or even a pc. I'm gonna wait for the pc 2

[@thedeadguy2456]

lol wait am 4 years late

the dead guy No you're not, pc2 isn't out yet lol.

[@arkhamlocus5431]

Only 4 years later this gem of a comment has been recognized

[@NoNameAtAll2]

Well, mobile gets faster and faster now

[@ridnaw9796]

November/2/2018. PC 2 production is getting delay yet, again. Ex-staff from the developer said in his twitter that the companies higher up used all of project backers money for some bitches and cocain.

[@TreeStealer69]

"The traditional pay-up-front model may mean you're not hounded to make purchases in-game" That did not age well

[@burkezillar]

7th Generation was the last hurrah of true local multiplayer. Keep your online multiplayer shite, it doesn't beat having 3 friends huddled around a TV, having a beer and punching them in the arm when they shoot you in Halo.

[@furrywatermelon3002]

+Michael Burke i like the way you said that and i agree

[@shawklan27]

LONG LIVE LOCAL MULTIPLAYER! SCREW ONLINE MULTIPLAYER!

[@xmm-cf5eg]

+Michael Burke Well, seeing as the death of Gen-7 is the death of my favorite offline-compatible Consoles, and I truly believe 99% of the games produced right before that generation died were horrible, and that this new generation will suffer from its own big-budget, low quality, poorly optimized graphics obsessed horde. I guess I'll have to join you in this little foxhole we call *_"nostalgia."_*

[@burkezillar]

7.62 -39mm I wouldn't call the foxhole "Nostalgia". I'd call it "The Foxhole Of Truth". We are but two people fighting against the Generation COD players with our PS3's, N64's and Commodore Amigas.

[@xmm-cf5eg]

Michael Burke I'll set my '360 to burst fire and load a mag of Halo-3 rounds... urah.

[@Vixarya]

I like these documentary style videos. You should make more stu.

[@geoyt8321]

Heh.

[@K3bReet]

Why did KZbin recommend this in 2019?

[@all_out_tripp7220]

KebReet bc gen 8 is coming to an end as well

[@javiergimenez40]

Its funny to see destiny as an example of a game that shows the new generation

[@complacentTactician]

2016-2017 We have technical and super fast games with small but super vibrant communities We also have slower - fast paced games with much larger but typically less friendly communities

[@wardcartoonmaker]

Your voice is like really fucking awesome

[@ImNotHere222]

I was a console gamer throughout my childhood, and early teenage years. I most recently had an Xbox 360, but lost interest a few years ago. I've been PC gaming ever since. The price points of consoles and their games were always a turn off, and the mere mechanics of it all feel almost archaic. Buy a console - buy a game - pay for internet access exclusive to the console - play game - buy next generation console - buy a game, etc.

[@bernardo4157]

Brandon Hiatt WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT HOW CONSOLES ARE WORSE THAN HITLER? WHO CARES THAT PC GAMING IS THE SECOND COMING OF JESUS? Just let people play what they want

[@ImNotHere222]

Well, I'm inclined to think my 6-month old, 4 thumbs up comment isn't stopping anyone... lol. I don't plan to be a hindrance to any gamers any time soon. To each their own, mate.

[@bbenny9033]

Ocean Man I think you took that as an attack, rather than an opinion.

[@olinezra1506]

@@bernardo4157 Why so mad? No one is stopping you from playing what you want. Like youtube comments define the evolution of man.

[@bernardo4157]

Looking back at my comment I think that I went too far. I’m deeply sorry for being stupid and taking a contrary opinion as an attack

[@RemoteSynergy]

My goodness, look at the Call of Duty BO2 profile pic at 3:40

[@huzi37709]

You can create your own 'emblems' with certain given shapes in the emblem creator. That's where that came from lol

[@RemoteSynergy]

huzi37709 No shit

[@TheUKNutter]

+RemoteSynergy You should see his other emblems. They're REALLY well done. My favourite one is the Galaga sprite he did.

[@huzi37709]

RemoteSynergy It seemed as if that was the first time you'd seen an emblem like that which led me to believe you never knew the emblem system. Apologies. ( Almost a year late response lol )

[@RemoteSynergy]

Huzi37709 Course, it was probs the biggest mistake and achievement Treyarch has made in multi

[@Frostuin]

"Let's all laugh at an industry that never learned anything, tee-hee-hee"

[@xmm-cf5eg]

+Adrian Kiel *Press X to fuck up a good thing you had going for ya.*

[@PonzooonTheGreat]

Next up on the guide to retarded moments of retarded retards: Deus Ex: Invisible War. I hope.

[@dragon5521]

God bless Yahtzee

[@beezy5628]

I love Zero Punctuation.

[@EdgyNumber1]

Then we got Gen 7.5... I learned that I needed to move onto PCs..

[@SuperBlackcesar]

Exactly what I did.

[@MateAndMead]

PC might be the superior platform, but have fun with the awful community and the lack of propper customer support. The chaotic cancer that is steam made me switch to console after 10 years of being a pc gamer, and I've never looked back since. The only thing I miss is Team Fortress 2 and Custom Zombies for world at war, but not being in the lazy hands of valve anymore is worth it to not play those. Especially as a german, where games on steam get banned all the time in our country, with no way of playing an imported copy.. On my PS4, I can play whatever the fuck I want. Even Mortal Kombat and Dead Island. And most importantly: Nioh and Bloodborne. Those two games make me never switch back.

[@jojolafrite90]

Awful community? HA HA HA HA!

[@mortenera2294]

@@jojolafrite90 He's damn right lol

[@mintmango2525]

pc doesnt have 1 community Each game has a different community

[@MartianBuddy]

I love your voice and your art. Thank you so much

[@krim7]

I was a console gamer in the 90's, then switched to PC fully in Gen 5. The Wii dragged me back to console but, honestly, only for party games. My parents randomly bought me an X-Box 360 (it was really, really random), so I split my time between PC and the 360. I mostly played RPGs on my 360, including all three Mass Effect games, all three Dragon Age games, Oblivion (well, replayed Oblivion as I had it for PC first) and Skyrim, Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas, amongst other lesser known and less beloved games. I think what I liked most about going back to consoles after spending years on the PC was the controller. There is just something comfortable about the 360's controller that I really dig. I liked it so much, I went out and bought one for my computer. I think the generation was really fun, maybe not as innovating or astounding as previous ones (I still remember being blown away by the N64). To me, this was just a continuation of what we have had since Generation 5, 3-D games with increasingly prettier visuals. The emphasis on sharing was, to me, the biggest change the generation brought us. I have really loved watching people play games and that is something that just wasn't super easy to do on console before this generation.

[@arnaraki7514]

Just connect a controller to your pc.

[@adamp.3739]

Enjoy 8th Gen and beyond. Have you considered upgrading to an Xbox One controller?

[@kawaiidere1023]

I won an xBox 360 at an arcade in one of those Master Key games once, the xBox One was already out though

[@adriankwok1406]

@@arnaraki7514 controller support on pc is still the textbook definition of finicky

[@arnaraki7514]

Adrian Kwok Not really

[@f1r3hunt3rz5]

You got to make a video concerning VR, Virtual Reality technologies and their possibilities.

[@johnmcqueen8827]

My prediction is that vr will fail.

[@cupofmozzarella]

Why? Early PC's were also highly expensive and had a lot of flaws.

[@johnmcqueen8827]

Personally I think it's a pretty cool idea but I think it will ultimately fail. I say this because it seems like another Nintendo game glove or something. It seems like a fad. I hope it catches on though because I play it a lot but I don't think it will appeal to the masses.

[@McCbobbish]

Josip Tito I think that it will survive as a niche at least. Like, it may never be in every living room, but I doubt it will just go away at this point.

[@MrVuckFiacom]

VR is going to become mainstream when it's even more cheaper and advances.

[@glitchsmasher]

"The next generation is all set to embrace an HD only approach" How funny. Back then we didn't realize that the consoles could barely do 900p at 60fps.

[@glitchsmasher]

Hunter Reeves I'm a whore because I think a new machine that costs £400 should be an improvement over the one I already own? Nice logic.

[@cltail]

Hunter Reeves Hypocrite. You console people always are fighting over the specs of your plastic boxes.

[@DrHotelMario]

glitchsmasher Any one who actually uses the term "PC Master Race" needs a good kick in the balls just for being a lamer. No offense.

[@glitchsmasher]

DrHotelMario What kind of person that says PC master race? The stupid kind that leaves comments on completely unrelated videos looking to start an argument they know they can win, or the nice kind that hangs around on reddit, hosts big giveaways and is generally awesome. Also INB4 this video is unrelated, it is. I was originally talking about how much of a disappointment the CONSOLES were. You won't even find the word PC in my comment.

[@DrHotelMario]

"PCMR: Hate to burst your bubble, but we've got 4k, 60fps+, shader mods, anti aliasing and anisotropic filtering." JEE I WUNDER WHAT "PCMR" STANDS 4 DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[@peterknutsen3070]

I like that you have proper English subtitles. Your diction is extremely clear, so I don’t need them at all when you’re talking, but when you show someone else talking, they’re very helpful.

[@levoGAMES]

Can't wait for 2020/21 about this current generation.

[@calebdavis1323]

Joined the pc master race last week. Totally worth it.

[@Karl0sis]

Loss of street-cred among 12 year olds

[@yournanaxel533]

+JunkDrawer I'm sorry for your loss (2)

[@SavageRodent]

I smell ignorance.

[@yournanaxel533]

+Savage Rodent And i smell elitism.

[@SavageRodent]

YourNanAxel It isn't elitism friend, it's fact. Unless you like playing with older hardware and the few exclusives on them.

[@josephgangloff2342]

Used to be a xbox fan but switching to playstation

[@kingsteak5256]

yeah me too i just get what i feels best and worth my money

[@Harshhaze]

About to do the same thing with gen 9

[@BlackOpSource]

@@Harshhaze I dunno, I'm a big PlayStation guy but that XSX is one hell of a console. I'm still getting the PS5 though.

[@dirtytoenail45]

I'm not normally one to say things like this but I just wanted to let you know, XboxAhoy, that your videos are some of the only ones which consistently exceed my expectations. You are someone with actual talent and creativity and I'm glad to see you've been successful with something you enjoy. Here's to Stu.

[@CalvinKim97]

Wow Stu, I think this was one of your best videos to date. Well put together, straight to the point and very entertaining to watch. Bravo!

[@evarage57]

Anyone else going to miss the 7th gen?

[@Cam-dn9ed]

No, I am still busy making the most out of my 6th gen games.

[@captinobvious4705]

i w will

[@Talon3000]

Why would I? My 360 still works and my PC doesn't care for generations anyways.

[@JINORU_]

I'm still playing PS3 and even older gen games. lol.

[@smexyvigoro]

i still play 4th gen games lol

[@dysectorza]

Waiting here for "What Did We Learn From The 8th Generation?"

[@EJBall3]

Stu, It is really evident how much work you put into your videos. Thanks so much and keep up the good work!

[@nickilindstrom]

It's really fun to see you make more than CoD videos. These recent uploads have been top-notch, probably better than any other informational gaming videos I've seen.

[@jonasak]

ahoy: making high quality content even in 2013

[@boycboy8959]

Just 4 years later, the 9th gen nintendo console has been announced to release early 2017, with playstation and Xbox sure to follow soon after. How the times change.

[@MNUEL]

BoyCboy The 8th gen Nintendo console*. So far, we've only had the 7.5 gen

[@mortenera2294]

"Soon after" Hah, they'll release them in winter of 2020, I don't think that's a short time gap

[@MeanBeanie85]

I'm digging these kind of videos Stu. Can't wait to see more.

[@snake63cardiff]

wow it still amazes me how professional and well done your videos are. good show old boy

[@ElectricPyroclast]

I hate how this 8th generation was made so that they can't really play previous gen games.

[@MegaKosan]

But you can play PS3 games on PS4 if you pay all of your moneydollars ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@61pokepi]

WiiU has backwards compatibility.

[@MegaKosan]

xMyNameHas3Xsx Nintendo is better than Sony and Microsoft. And thats why I have my gaming PC and my 3DS. I cant afford a WiiU though. BTW: I LOVE POKEMON ALPHA SAPPGIRE

[@61pokepi]

MegaKosan I am also enjoying alpha sappgire

[@61pokepi]

***** Then nobody would buy their consoles.

[@zin360]

i am watching at the end of gen 8, shit time flies

[@NorthVayne]

Your videos outside of the cod world are amazing! keep them coming stu

[@TheGrandPoupon]

Content quality like this is what sets you apart, Stu. Superb video.

[@Alex-xl4xe]

Greetings from PCMR! Whatever Console Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo is developing right now, PC is way ahead.

[@andrewp8284]

Good of you to remind everyone, like the other scores of unoriginal PCMR cock-strokers in the comments.

[@mariettathelynx]

Have you tried the switch?? I've heard it's great, you know, the whole playing wherever you are and such.

[@schmevil4697]

Alex Good luck finding Switch games on steam, buddy

[@benjaminbalogh5524]

Try playing GTA V with a 2006 PC with everything on minimum You won't make it

[@Gorandius1256]

But the biggest question about the 8th Gen, will it see HL3?

[@DaYouKlu]

no it will be pc exclusive

[@notbob6922]

Xynthia It doesn't exist.

[@delamovies]

Xynthia what makes you think so? All HL games made it to consoles

[@nej3157]

Notice how valve only makes a Half-Life game when they create a new engine. Notice also the new engine they have recently unveild (Source2).

[@Gorandius1256]

Chuck Norris HL3 Confirmed

[@visdom0]

I love what you're doing on your channel lately. Good job!

[@Brynney]

Excellent, the videos are getting more and more interesting each time.

[@TheGameCreator13]

*Stuart Brown*. are by chance related to *Mark Brown*? •ω•

[@namkha209]

"voice chat is default" Try telling that to Nintendo

[@supernt7852]

Nintendo: dOwNlOaD tHe aPp aNd cOnNeCt tO y0uR SwItcH aNd pReSs sOmeThInG tO tUrN oN v01cE Other consoles: Clicks the button

[@Seraph68]

Great video. I would love to see one covering previous generations (1-6), Defining each one and their contributions to the modern gaming generation (7&8). Maybe even cover that span of generations by genre rather then generation, like FPS/Shooters or Driving games through the generations, much like the Akimbo Origins video.

[@Drwiggles69]

Professional and insightful as always, great work, Stu. The CoD guides were/are good, but I'm liking this new direction. It's to have something to watch as someone who's a fan of your work but not necessarily a fan of CoD anymore. Keep it up!

[@MrWhtgst]

Nope cause I have a PC and a Wii-U.

[@Diegopie007]

"nothing." *video ends*

[@IBelrose]

Loved the video, Stu. Loved the technicolor vibe. Keep on doing this type of stuff; God knows I'd miss it.

[@MrCorycraig]

Nice production quality! Very informative and a delight to watch!

[@PurpleColonel]

1. Don't rip off Nintendo if you don't know how.

[@jowiel314]

Now for the daily question of why this is recommended to me in 2019?

[@gabikralj94]

We'll never know. But it's a good video nonetheless, very well crafted. He should now make a video of what we learned from the 8th generation. But it's probably going to be made when the 9th gen gets officially announced. Who knows, maybe he's already in the process of making it. But it's sure to be a blast :D

[@Sirducki]

A beautiful video stu, and a great idea to combo the idea of 7th gen with the stylized rainbow aesthetic. Your new videos are really showing your true potential outside of COD videos (not that they are not great in there own right).

[@SuperSaiyanJin11]

This video was very well done with just about everything about it being perfect or near perfect. The games you showcased also showed off this gen to a tee.

[@stufaman]

This gen has been pretty garbage for the most part IMO. X1 and PS4 just seem to churn out the same stuff as PS3/360, just with prettier visuals. I like the direct share thing though. Wii U is a flop but mercifully tries something new and at least caters for local multi-player. I'm not a PC guy, but I can't deny this gen sees more people looking the benefits of PC gaming. 1080p, 60FPS that seems all important these days. Constant stream of indie titles and almost doing away with buying disks. I hope to see this gen improves, but I'll be very interested to see a dramatic change in the following gen. Which I feel may come a lot sooner this time.

[@Healthwise.]

Please delete that Pc nerd thank you x

[@stufaman]

Jake Sinden I'm no PC guy. Infact the Wii U is my favourite out of this bunch.

[@DEEEEEEEEEELICIOUS]

+stufaman Give this generation a year or so and it'll skyrocket.

[@stufaman]

Balls Nasty There's one game that gives me hope for change. No Man's Sky.

[@zebare726]

+stufaman I agree. we went from a great generation (6) A generation which had a huge selection of new and old ips, and with a promising future for the gaming industry. To go in for a generation with fewer of everthing, to ultimately leave behind traces of a gloomy future for the gaming industry- 1. Online passes 2. season passes 3. drm 4. mictrotransations 5. day one patches 6. less contect in the base game 7. more focus on multiplayer then singeplayer 8. third/fp wave( both good and bad) 9. The big wave of milking 10. death of many publishers 11. hd collection wave 12. casual gaming wave 13. motion gaming 14, Few odd new types of games. 15. less old school retro collection disc.. 16. broken system at launch has turn into a standard. However, there were a few bright spots for 7 generation 1. gaming broadcasting Became big under 7 generations(noobtoob, iw, ec) 2. Online which offered deeper gameplay(l4d,borderline, killing floor) 3.Much easier to access older games 4. E3 raise to mainstream 5. Return of some older ips( even if many of those ended up bad) 6. Some of the best FPS / third person shooter came out during this yen 7.Wide range of the most common genres(racing,sport,shooter,2d platform) 8. arcde gaming got an return. 9. Indie gaming 10. One of the better generation for tv/ movies franchises.. Batman,simpsons, southpark,transformer,ghostbusters, spider-man,

[@Thecheezgod1]

I like the look of both ps4 and xbone, but the whole kinect thing, plus having to pay for xbox live. I mean I've really been a big xbox fan, and id hate to miss xbone exclusives like, a new halo that may happen ETC. but microsoft just makes the xbox, and windows programs, they cant compete with sony, which makes all kinds of things.

[@luigibros224]

Trust me in a market where consumers are the way they are, you can compete in any market with a turd. Yes the Xbox is now in this gen worse than the PS4 however they are both worse than the glorious PC. Here is everything you need to know. www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/wiki/guide

[@cheeseJ3rk]

luigibros224 Fine work brother.

[@samnewlove2049]

Very well put together Stu. You never fail to impress me!

[@gattraphael]

Stu, i'm really loving where you are taking you channel ;) basing it on informative and interesting gaming vids and some guides about different games rather than a single series on a dying franchise :)

[@PonzooonTheGreat]

Ye, the 7th get consoles were the last that had reason to exist. The PC is just better in every way now.

[@azzypics]

+PonzooonTheGreat well, Wii U shows real difference, but sadly, nobody gives a shit about Nintendo anymore

[@PonzooonTheGreat]

+Azune Konpeki They're trying too hard where it doesn't matter (hardware gimmicks) and not hard enough where it does (the games).

[@azzypics]

PonzooonTheGreat Games are pretty good from my point of view. They tried very poorly in proper marketing - consumers who weren't very experienced with gaming thought that Wii U was only a peripheral for original Wii. Hopefully, they'll do better with NX

[@JuniorBlitz]

PonzooonTheGreat Don't forget. Consoles didn't have mods and accurate aim in fps. Don't act like pc gaming changed a lot. It's still the same shit.

[@modvind]

Junior Blitz if it ain't broken, don't fix it. Sure, PC might be similar (not anymore than consoles are similar, btw) but that's because PC is closest you get to perfection within gaming

[@StateOfTheMind11225]

guys seriously I'm depressed af with all these pc comments, I fucking hate my own country for PC miners and shitty economy that takes computer parts so much money compared to consoles. it seems every time I stepped into a gaming video it seems that I play on consoles that it seems I'm inferior and my fun, my gaming experiences are just, well don't matter, because I play on consoles. I'm starting to steer away from gaming tbh because of this, until my country gets better I wish I'm invalid, atleast. but this whole PCMR and console wars are so political I accepted to be called peasant all the damn time. fuck this. I'm just dropping this comment, its on fucking youtube comment section of all things but I just, don't know if the games I played that I had fun or experienced are even real because ITS ON CONSOLE DUH and its just, well. Plain depressing. sorry.

[@JuniorBlitz]

ArmorTalons310 PC isn't expensive bro. You're still misunderstanding. I'm not rich af and i've got a pc way more powerful than console for 400 quid. Also, xbox and ps4 games are really darn expensive so stop being depressed and see the light.

[@notenlish]

@@JuniorBlitz no in countries with bad economy the ps4 and xbox one is cheaper

[@JuniorBlitz]

@@notenlish You mean in some countries, PC is more expensive but in others, it's cheaper? Makes sense but didn't feel like that's what he meant at the time.

[@notenlish]

@@JuniorBlitz i mean a 1660 ti costs more than 2k in my country but a ps4 costs the same and considering that GoW or TLoU 2 looks better contributes to the fact

[@JediMcPimp]

Hey, just want to say love these videos. Been watching since the BLOPS days, and these are more interesting than any gun guide. Hope you get to keep making these introspectively as I really enjoy your fresh perspective.

[@thesvc2006]

youre videos are amazing Ahoy. i've been binge watching during third shift.

[@FlowKio]

Gen 7 was lightning in a bottle that’ll never be recaptured

[@taitos00]

weird expression for "a shitty gen that encapsulates everything wrong with todays gaming"

[@jimmiecgray]

what did we learn........ PC is the master race.

[@namelessasdf]

..because the consoles failed miserably

[@bobmit214]

Stu, I love this videos you're uploading.

[@BeefIngot]

Great production quality and pretty good flow. I did find the title a bit off however. This was really a historic summary of the generation.

[@AcceptYourDeath]

I learned from the 7 gen, having USB-slots build into your devices and denying mouse and keyboard support as an option isn`t open to debate, it is unacceptable. StarCraft could have had a release for consoles, Dota could have been released for consoles...the list is long, the USB slots are available...

[@squidsquirthd2684]

dota and starcraft can run on computers the same price as the x box 360 there was no point

[@SalveMonesvol]

Too many 30fps games, and even lamer, the ps4 "PRO" also has 30 fps games, it's absurd. If the X1X also has 30fps games, I'llstay on PC for ever.

[@schmevil4697]

SalveMonesvol or get the switch, it's got 60fps

[@SalveMonesvol]

Dude, I like all optimized games, I'm platform agnostic, but there are more 60fps games on the PRO than on the Switch.

[@succccccccccccccccc2328]

Tbh on the switch idk about if it's 30 or 60fps

[@corktail7900]

if you care so much about framerate, go outside, you will get plenty more

[@Koplod]

Great video! Well put together, informative with slick commentary. Keep up the good work Stu!

[@Girbeagly]

Great video, Stu. I love the look back at what we've been able to experience and grow from. On top of that, your editing was definitely on point here. Thanks for this, sir. You are a boon to the KZbin gaming community!

[@VRockVulture]

"Social gaming" - what kind of garbage is this? I feel disgusted about the online/multiplayer direction. It is pitiful how developers seek to create a badass multiplayer at the expense of a story mode. They still make good singleplayer games, but I can only count them on one hand. Story mode is always overshadowed by some mindless online mode and worthless multiplayer upgrades that are called DLCs. However, that's just me. I like singleplayer games and I have never cared much about multiplayer modes.

[@SquibbeyJenkins]

VRockVulture Just because you don't like multiplayer doesn't mean no one else likes it. Stop raining on everyone's parade gramps

[@malachimusclerat]

exactly. I don't much care for mp either but i'm not gonna insult people who do lol

[@romipunz]

VRockVulture just cause you have no friends, doesnt mean you have to get mad that other people enjoy playing with their friends online.

[@jdmjegan5049]

VRockVulture im same as you, online multiplayer is just garbage...

[@Deliverygirl]

How can you enjoy singleplayer games? You're just fighting braindead AI...

[@luigiluigi12499]

The comment section is cancer

[@Yomamacrank]

Awesome editing stu. Looking forward to more of these type of videos

[@ThatHaloFanatic]

Ahoy, you always make such good content! The production value is amazing!

[@johnbasedow8973]

we learned that graphics have hit a plateu. THe graphics arent even that much better then last gen just shinier

[@ChristianArreguin]

it only seems they've hit a plateau because the consoles aren't much more powerful than previous gen, so there wasn't much room to grow. xbone/ps4 hardware is around the equivalent of a mid-range gaming pc from 2009. however on the pc side of things, graphics are jaw droppingly beautiful as we continue to push the highest end of hardware to its limits with every year becoming stronger and stronger. heck look at the original crysis from 2007(which had no dumbing down for consoles), that game still looks amazing at max settings, i'd even say it looks better the new ps4/x1 games. it can run at 1080p at 60fps which consoles have yet to achieve without massive graphical sacrifices.

[@acdcgnr100]

That is because they still have to figure out how to optomize games for the new hardware, look at the first ps3 and 360 games, they didnt look much better than ps2/xbox games. They will just get better and better, and by the end of the generation it will be easy to notice the difference.

[@ChristianArreguin]

no, there was room to optimize because it was non-standard hardware, devs were still learning how to code for it. this time around the new consoles are literally shitty PCs with laptop APU which is a cpu and gpu in one with mediocre performance. there will be almost no room to optimize.

[@acdcgnr100]

Christian Arreguin You're wrong. The reason you cant optimize like that for pcs is because of the thousands of configurations and the fact that it is always evolving. With a standard set of hardware they can use many tricks to get all they can out of the hardware throughout the years of practice they will have.

[@ChristianArreguin]

I'm sorry but no, there are no "tricks". Any performance benefits will be minuscule. You can only optimize shit hardware so much, sort of like the the old saying "there's no replacement for displacement". These new consoles are using mid grade hardware from like 2010 if not earlier. It's an embarrassment.

[@alessandroromano4558]

wii has the best software ever ;)

[@ckkaCS]

I see what you did there ;)

[@Snowblindd_]

I love these! Great job Stu!

[@caw1995]

Stu, your skills in making videos and all these interesting topics make you the greatest youtuber on the net. Idk why you dont have mode subscribers

[@MrShadowhaunt]

I look at this and all i can see is consoles playing catchup with pc. High-res, multiplayer, voice chat, sharing gameplay. We've had that years before the 360 and ps3. And now consoles are boasting freetoplay games and streaming? Pathetic.

[@BearsMaxx]

Motion Control? That's pretty cool

[@MrShadowhaunt]

Maxx Smith Look up the Razer Hydra. Also, Kinect for Windows is way bigger and more useful than for Kinect.

[@mavman16]

yeah the lack of a solid graphical update and lack in change of frames per second in the newest gen made me switch to pc

[@coldberserk]

Alexander Cole You did the right thing.Welcome to PC

[@SuperMandibleclaw]

cold berserk oh can you elitist fucks just fuck off already

[@512TheWolf512]

What i learned from gen 7 and gen 8: consoles suck, #pcmasterrace

[@BlackhartFilms]

Nice Stu, this video is quite a remarkable summary of the generation, and the bold colors you chose makes it ooze style. :D

[@lordlemons77]

Loved the graphics work in this vid Stu, keep it up!

[@mishtletsatsomoka4944]

*And the 8th generation is pretty much shit.*

[@writershard5065]

No it's not. There's so many good games if you just look for it.

[@user-ly2ll5od1r]

Nier? Witcher 3? Bloodborne? Dark souls 3? Doom? Uncharted 4? Zelda BOTW? Horizon: zero dawn? MGS 5? RE7? Rocket league? Overwatch? Titanfall 2? Forza horizon 3? Persona 5? Rocket League? Undertale? Firewatch? That's just a few that are in my head rn, i am sure there are a fuckton more great games from 8th gen. No, honestly, tell me a really bad AAA game that came out in 8th, and no, do not fucking list battlefront or destiny or ac series or some shit, cause they are FAR from bad games, tell me at least 1 game from 8th gen that is as bad as duke nukem forever or ride to hell

[@modvind]

Mantas Pavardė No Man's Sky...

[@user-ly2ll5od1r]

Nicolai No man's sky was developed by like 6 people which makes it an indie game, also, isn't no man's sky considered to be mediocre?

[@modvind]

Mantas Pavardė yet sold at AAA price therefore judged by AAA standards. And yes, the game itself might be mediocre but all the lies and content not present from what we've been promised makes it a horrendous game. Worst of 2016 without doubt

[@DerickTherving]

We learned that the only reason to be a console gamer is ignorance and laziness.

[@TheSquidNinja]

You forgot to mention lack of financial skills and foresight (ignorance, I guess)

[@VisionQuest057]

Or if a person just _loves_ the concepts of planned obsolescence and the feeling of being left behind while the superior PC Master Race simply continues to upgrade their CPU's, RAM, and GPU's smoothly and steadily with ease.

[@beefalo7589]

OtherSyde So, when are you going to start gassing Playstations and Xboxes?

[@DammitSpah]

DerickTherving Or maybe they just have a decent amount of money and like the exclusives.

[@DerickTherving]

Lobinden PC has a lot more exclusives. A lot more good exclusives.

[@CreamAle]

man.. the "new format" that stu talked about in the other channel is pretty damn good. im digging these documentary vids quite a bit.

[@ASleepwalkingNation]

Xboxahoy, you are great. You're videos are so well done. You helped inspire us to make videos.

[@overlordalfredo]

Well sadly Gen 8 turned out to be the most disappointing and objectively worst generation... There were no doubt good games, but overall it could not compete with Gen 7 or the mighty Gen 6 even remotely...

[@anameofsomesort959]

Really? PS4 is one of the most popular consoles ever produced and well Xbox One had a bumpy start Microsoft's support for backwards compatibility and services like game pass have improved their console. The only console that did not succeed was the Wii u, but even then it proved innovative and full of quality games. You really can't believe that the current gen, which is more popular than their gen 7 counterparts at the same time in their life cycle, is disappointing. Gen 8 will go down as the generation that proves consoles aren't going anywhere and that there's room for improvement inbetween, although a lot of people don't like that, that all seems pretty exciting to me!

[@overlordalfredo]

@@anameofsomesort959 you seem to be referring to (supposedly) only US numbers. Gen7 was globally much more successful than the entire Gen8 and officially Nintendo Switch is part of Gen8 as well. Most players never upgraded to PS4 or Xbox One because they brought little new to the table. Better graphics (like every generation), better online services for most games (but still very unreliable overall) and Gen8 is famous for its remakes and remasterd games and the lack of new franchises or "blockbuster" games. Globally Gen6 was the one that gets the strongest positive feedback from Retro gamers and Gen7 got the best sales and placed second on almost any official polls taken. Gen8 basically just existed and had also the Switch, but that's it!

[@HBSanta]

Stu you have really outdone yourself with this video. Incredibly well done.

[@sparta117corza]

Your videos and transitions are amazing keep it up!

[@TheSpartan180]

You can't stop surprising Stu, keep up the good work.

[@XoriginalXBOXguidesX]

Absolutely fantastic video, I'm really looking forward to what you'll be working on next Stu!

[@jbizz6535]

Amazing production value and concise content!!!

[@NoodleCranium]

Top notch quality as always Stu!

[@baldgamerdude]

Loved it stu, another stellar video from yourself.

[@DDLegendGaming]

Such good editing and info, loved it :)!

[@Lewis1995]

Yet another well made and informative video stu.

[@nazra7]

Did anyone expect back in 2013 that in just a few years virtual gaming would become the 8th gen console's defining innovation forward? The future is more amazing than anyone could have ever predicted. We are well on our way towards the technological singularity! I'll get to see it in my lifetime!

[@blitzluigy]

im loveing your new content stu! keep up the good work, cant wait till next video

[@TheEnel23]

It's great you're experimenting with your vids, Stu. I like the documentarie stule and sure hope to see more!

[@AwkwrdPrtMskrt]

As people who grew up through generations 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7, we sure have seen a lot of change in gaming.

[@TorrellesEdit]

Inspiring, you never cease to amaze me with the design choices. And this time around, yes, I have like the font election.

[@danmiller8534]

Very nice job Ahoy , looking forward to your next non-Cod video , you are doing great talking about videogames and popular media in general !