What Does ATF's Open Letter on Polymer80 Frames Really Mean to You?

[@mikehancho1613]

I had no intentions of buying a 80% lower. Now I want 10 just because they don't want me to have 1. ✌

[@felsinferguson1125]

Smart fellow...

[@richmayne596]

Amen brother!👍

[@lubrew5862]

ATF has no legal authority to change laws. In this case a receiver has a legal definition. SCOTUS has already slapped some of the other alphabet agencies for trying to go outside their power. I don’t think this would pass legal muster but if the ATF tries enforcing their changes it will take years to go through the courts.

[@dhgoody]

And that therein is the core issue; these anti-2a hoplophobes are trying to bankrupt the 2a community through unconstitutional law making and deliberately tying up the courts for years,

[@melissasmess2773]

Also...It may take years to get out of prison 😂

[@apisdude]

how many pets will die in the mean time

[@JohnLloydScharf]

Congress makes laws. Courts interpret laws. Government agencies implement laws. This is a republic, not a DEMOCRACY. You do not have a VOTE on what a receiver is to be interpreted as. PERIOD. There are no referendums to inject common sense into laws.

[@brianmorg]

That’s why the ATF calls it a clarification vs a new rule. That’s the grey area they live in.

[@deadlyta]

Anyone else find it infuriating that these laws won't stand up in court , are obviously unconstitutional, but yet the people passing and enforcing them won't ever be held accountable

[@allywilkeforsenate]

That is why we should disregard the law too to bring them into compliance.All tyrants must be held accountable.

[@thebronzetoo]

Nothing. It means nothing. I don't obey unconstitutional edicts.

[@HvacGuy76]

It means that tyranny only comes from the government.

[@madmaxx5612]

Same with terrorism and war.

[@rockymountboy]

What this means to me is that that the ATF is reaching beyond their congressional directives, and therefore outside the law, and should be either reformed or disbanded.

[@2Anut]

And ignored for now

[@svbarryduckworth628]

Ignoring the illegal ATF is about as smart as ignoring illegal gang-bangers. Both are dangerous and discounting their danger will be a great mistake. Never turn your back on a dangerous animal -especially the kinds that walk on two legs.

[@0devast8r0]

No reform, only Disband.

[@2Anut]

@@svbarryduckworth628 *disregard* their “rules” is more what I meant

[@svbarryduckworth628]

Breaking rules can often be more trouble/work/risk than following them. I've got no problem with breaking rules. When you break a rule, go ahead and break it good and hard. Just be absolutely certain of what you are choosing to do, how you are going to get away with it, and why you are doing it. Never half-donkey it.

[@randlecarr3257]

They may not come kick down your door right away, but you know that’s where this is eventually headed.

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

Yes Fewer *Living* ATF Criminals.

[@oddshot60]

Just as soon as they get all those 87,000 IRS(d) agents they've been wanting. It's nice to be able to build your own private army.

[@momo-hm5ru]

@@oddshot60 I think there was an increase in the death benefits for agents in the bill too. That's telling.

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

What it means is ‘Shall Not Be Infringed”, and ANY Illegal Attempt by the ATF to do so SHALL BE MET WITH FORCE.

[@paulpugh2480]

Anyone truly intending to apply force,would not say so.

[@ObamaoZedong]

Talk is cheap bubba

[@bmc9587]

Excellent information! Thanks again , Bill for all that you do!

[@Reindeer-ry2lf]

If a person is able to finish one of these, I would find it difficult to believe that one would need to take it to an FFL to have it worked on 🤔😏

[@felsinferguson1125]

AMEN! If you've got the skills, tools, and assorted "know-how" required to turn a hunk of plastic (or aluminum) into a functional thunder-stick, you've got the skills, tools, and know-how to keep it operational. Getting an FFL involved to the point where they'd need to put it "on the books" would be unnecessary at best, and idiotically foolish at worst.

[@melissasmess2773]

Yeah, you have to be someone who bought it completed and doesn't watch KZbin 😂

[@dhgoody]

Well said!

[@jimsinnovations2737]

Yep I never have to take to shop, I build my own of course

[@craigdoriety9798]

True, you can even do Ceracoat if you really desire to. I know enough people personally that none of this would be an issue even if I couldn't DIY.

[@technicaldifficulties2522]

AFT has no right to make laws.. remember that.

[@joejohnson4183]

And remember that Congress gave them the authority to make rules , so go blame the lazy Congress .

[@theoverunderthinker]

the real question is are you willing to sit in jail until it is resolved in the courts? are you willing to be the test case? because until it is struck down, these "laws" which are really just administrative rules, can still land you in prison, and even if it gets struck down later , you would still have to sue to get your potential conviction overturned. 💸💸💸💸💸💸 so there's being brave and being brave once you understand the entire picture. you can be 100% right and still languishing in prison.

[@AmericanSawyer]

Congrats, your comment just made you a domestic terrorist. 👏

[@loarmistead]

And then they show up, shoot your dog, and take your guns, and the "law" does nothing to help you. Now what?

[@AmericanSawyer]

@Ernst Heidegger hopefully a few patriots exercises ATFs new benefit package.

[@herschelbuck882]

A Federal Judge in Texaa has given protection to several 80% manufacturers and they're customers. How does this change in ATF's stance affect that courts ruling?!?!

[@chickmagnetwampaone]

You do WA residents a great service with these informational videos. Thank you for your efforts.

[@Soravia]

That's why I told ppl, buy them while you can

[@russf6572]

When I built mine many years ago, I did what I do for almost everything I own. I bought extra. My friends asked why I needed extra frames. I told them I could see a time when buying these would be harder if not impossible. _Sometimes it sucks being right._

[@warpony4202]

Free men don't ask permission so I will not comply......abolish the ATF.

[@whatsmolly5741]

From what I understand california actually has the same clause for anything manufactured before November 2019, you are required to properly serialize your ghost gun BUT you don't actually have to ask the government for that number it just needs to be unique and in the correct format.

[@Aeroshogun]

What does it mean to me? Nothing because unserialized means they don’t know it exists.

[@HvacGuy76]

They want company records to find out who to arrest.

[@matthewsarosy3400]

Companies won’t sell p80 frames tho cuz of it

[@warpony4202]

@@HvacGuy76 BRING IT..... PLAY STUPID GAMES WIN STUPID PRIZES.STAY STRAPPED STAY DANGEROUS AND STAY FROSTY ALL WAYS CARRY AND SHOOT FIRST.

[@Aeroshogun]

@@HvacGuy76 All I'm going to say about that is "enjoy your witch hunt". 3D printer it is then.

[@HvacGuy76]

@@warpony4202 I already do!

[@silvermine2033]

Just some ⛽⛽⛽ for the algorithm. -CCDL member from CT.

[@michaelpcoffee]

It means somebody has the mistaken idea that they have some authority over what I own and how I arm myself.

[@burkulesprime1372]

Thanks for the update Kirkules!

[@stephencarr7173]

In regards to ATF Rule 2021R-05F, the ATF cannot up and change rules (laws) willy-nilly without authority or explanation. The ATF has already previously ruled that an 80% is NOT a firearm if there is no jig or kit included. (See ECF 133 at 22-25). Now, they are trying to argue that manufacturing is "converting", when they previously argued it was not. This is a complete reversal. Under Vanderstock: A court cannot uphold an administrative agency's decision that amounts to an unexplained reversal of policy. State Farm, 463 US. at 57, "an agency changing it's course must supply reasoned analysis". It is established administrative law that if the agency fails to acknowledge a change [in it's position] and adequately explain it, the change will be afforded no deference in litigation under Chevron deference. The ATF does not have the authority to language from 18 USC 921 (a)(3)(A) to 18 USC 921 (a)(3)(B), end around congress.

[@Taco_420]

3D printing still exists. They can't stop the signal.

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

3d printing, Milling machines, hand drills, sheet metal and hammers… The ATF wants Homemade AR15s and pistols to go away? They’re soon going to find More Americans armed with Stens and Mac 10s than ATF Criminals with m4s.

[@brucebelvin2058]

I've been working for a couple years on completing an 80% receiver. I'm about 20% away from finishing it.

[@christianarcos4333]

We love the content

[@neilkratzer3182]

? Since the ATF said under oath in the vanderstock case that they were not firearms and now this letter does. Doesn't that mean the ATF lied under oath?

[@TenuredHarvard]

Thank you! Happy New Year!

[@jeffreyrogers5689]

Doesn't this "Letter" run into direct conflict with the standing injunction by the federal judge on Frames and Receivers from the NorthTexas Federal court?

[@hanksbud2544]

Thank you Bill.

[@thetruthyes]

When they say its your duty to inform yourself of the current new laws, you should reply with its your duty to know the Constitution and enforce it against domestic enemies.

[@PatrickJDoyle-bw3fu]

I can see the ATF requiring the receipt with date of purchase, to make sure it was prior to July 2019

[@vincenzoluisi5916]

Thank God our legal system, the burden of proof is on the government to show.

[@BangBang-hk4rg]

Thanks for posting these videos to explain these things in plain English. 👍

[@butziporsche8646]

The only reason to build one is to have an unserialized and untraceable unit. Serialization makes it pointless.

[@bubbamcknight4865]

Not the only reason, but a good enough one. I got mine because it was easier than flying into the closest town to buy one. They just came to my po box. And yes when I do get to town I do buy 1 or 2 new guns depending on total cost involved.

[@butziporsche8646]

@@bubbamcknight4865 Well, there is that. However, what I was speaking to is that there are 80% AR lowers that cost more than finished lowers so what is the point in machining out the fire control pocket of a serialized 80% lower if you can buy one already finished, and at lower cost? Basically, this will eliminate the 80% pistol market as we have known is it will nullify the primary reason for finishing, that is, keeping existence of your property private.

[@bob_mosavo]

Thanks, William 😁

[@tsoliot5913]

Sales of 3d printers through the roof, atf mystified. Film at 11

[@paulpugh2480]

Thank you for the qualifications.

[@johnkizziah108]

Thank you for your information my friend.

[@JonesAndGriesmann]

What happen to the Law that says you can be charged by a new law for something you did prior to the passing of the law? What if I CNC machine a 0% lower (block of aluminum)? Are random blocks of metal and plastic large enough to make a firearm frame now classified as firearms?

[@longrodvanhugendong]

Thanks dad

[@bobstorey554]

How about the injunction in place from the federal court lawsuit going on in Texas - sorry I don’t know the case name off the top of my head, but last I heard, that injunction against the frame and receivers rule was still in place?

[@dhgoody]

Case 3:22-cv-00148 Document 1 Filed on 05/09/22 in TX

[@alhorn2664]

It means that the ATF is truly as rudderles and confused as we know they are!

[@douglassmith6872]

I live in Texas and this is being challenged in Federal court So I will be using other firearms and carrying different ones This regulation or rule is overturned by the 1968 GCA statute made by congress which clearly states definition of a firearm This will be struck down in lower courts

[@michaelpcoffee]

The Executive has no legislative authority.

[@hadleyscott1160]

Mines a 9mm. I am a DAV. While I don’t carry it I wanted to use it for home defense. I thought it would be safer for inside the house. Penetration was thought about here. I’ll be losing control if I go to a shotgun or any Long rifle. This is ludicrous. My mistake. I’m griping about braces

[@JohnLloydScharf]

I do not want nor own one of these. I cannot even get glue to set right, much less make guns, but no weapons should be tracked in any manner. If they were serious about tracking guns, they would only serialize barrels. For sane law-abiding citizens this law is absurd, arbitrary, ambiguous, and abusive. If the government wants to do a background check, THEY should pay for it. It is NOT a benefit to ME.

[@garywarren6285]

As it cannot be law it means nothing to me.

[@howardwhite5131]

This letter goes against the argument that the ATF put forward in the court cases in Texas.

[@67redwing]

Thank you you are so very informative.

[@ScoobyHitApex]

@WashingtonGunLaw what RCW expands on the stipulation around Pistol Frames Manufactured after July 1st 2019? Didn't see the specific quote under RCW9.41.326

[@Hammerli280]

From a practical perspective, if you can't buy one of the 80% frames off-paper, you may as well get a complete frame. The cost is the same.

[@melissasmess2773]

You can buy a firearm for less than the cost of building one

[@mikehancho1613]

Exactly. People say "but then they know you have it". So what...

[@luckythirteen77]

“So what…”? That is the point. Are you really that anxious to register your legal firearm just so they can confiscate it from you the lawful citizen when tyrants pass “laws” that are unconstitutional.

[@mikehancho1613]

@@luckythirteen77 let them try I'll be the first to set a example

[@mtnbkr5478]

The point isn't to reduce firearm ownership, it's to harm pro-2a industries that will not only be able to do little to no sales, but also to force them into prohibitively expensive legislation. And they're counting on us to not care because it doesn't affect us directly.

[@Ordrock7]

I have a question for you, I haven't heard you says anything about this. If I were to purchase one of those scarry pew pews that looks like the rifles in those Hollywood movies and it has a serial number and cartridge identified on the lower part of the pew pew as 5.56 or .223 , and because the rifles are modular and comes with accessories that can just be snapped into place like a .300 blackout upper installed onto the lower or any other caliber, is the rifle against the law to swap uppers on a lower or add another barrel? The modularity of the AR style rifles allow for simple upper and lower swapping, is it against the law to do the swapping of components that changes the caliber of the pew pew?

[@dhgoody]

I'm guessing there is no problem swapping our one upper for a different one in a different caliber, but to be safe, invest in go, nogo, and field headspace gauges to make sure you are good on safe pressures.

[@stairman3151]

It is against the law to put a pistol upper on a rifled lower. But it's not against the law to put a rifle upper on a pistol lower. If you bought one with a serial number on it . If you buy lowers only. When you fill out the 4473 you have three classifications. Rifle, pistol, other. Always have them marked on a 4473 as other. That way you can interchange and swap anything you want. They just don't want pistol uppers on rifled lower

[@jaynorth1879]

What about Oregon? I haven't been able to find anything for us here. Or is it something that is still tied up in the courts and just waiting on a rule?

[@jimsinnovations2737]

PSA won't ship there . State law I saw it on there website

[@khiaraslaw]

BIG QUESTION being that these items have never been seen as a firearm what about the non FFL retailers that sale these items?

[@warpony4202]

No FFL no sale it's part of the plan to destroy the firearms industry. Don't forget all FFL that go out of business forfeit all records so the ATF.

[@sigma80]

They don't sell them anymore. The websites that sold Polymer 80's and the Polymer 80 "completion kits" (The jig to drill the frame, drills and parts.) stopped selling them when the "Letter" was released. Is it possible someone had a bunch of these, doesn't really understand what they actually are, not a gun dealer, and still has them for sale? Yes but unlikely. All the folks "in the know" have stopped selling them except as guns, who need to be transfered via FFL and you need to get the background checks and fill out a 4473 on it too. No one is selling them now as just frames essentially. Polymer 80 sends you to a FFL you can have ship it to your chosen FFL after you pay them.

[@cmitch8667]

Are Sig Sauer P320 and P365 grip modules now considered firearms under this new definition?

[@earnieferguson727]

I guess my copy of the Constitution left that part out!! Where lies the appeal to 80% if you have to make them traceable and still have to put the work in to building it! As it sets right now it’s cheaper to buy a 8:46 lower already serialized and pay your FFL for paperwork than to buy the 80% lower and still have to do all that. 80% lowers need to come down in price to make it worth the buy!

[@jerrythompson9111]

What about the high capacity magazine the judge was to give a letter by Christmas??? Did the judge just thumb his or her noes to it?

[@TheMindfulHomestead]

If the 80% frames that many have are now "firearms" all of a sudden, then would that not make it legal for friends to assist hands on in the transition from 80% operational to 100% operational? | know it previously was illegal to make and transfer a firearm at a "build party" but I can't find any verbiage where it's illegal for one person to help another person work on a firearm if the owner is present. Obviously "gunsmith" laws take effect if the firearm is left more than 24 hours or if someone is in the business of modifying firearms... but that wouldn't seem to be the case if someone dropped off a few lowers to be made operational at a friends, and then picked them up later in the day.

[@MaynardCrow]

I honestly couldn't tell you off the top my head which tools I have that I built before some random month and year. It's not like I engraved a date of completion on them.

[@clarence4735]

Doesnt mean anything to me, i dont listen to criminals or criminal orhanizations, ( government)

[@jerrymartin3965]

Disregard. They have absolutely no legal authority to make law.

[@mfogg2]

R They have zero constitutional authority to exist in the first place.

[@starhawke380]

Isnt there a spot on the form 4473 for the FFL to put the serial number of the firearm being transferred? If the P80 blank doesnt have one, how can the form be processed? Im betting that P80 will have to mark all the blanks that they sell from now on.

[@kirkmorrison6131]

Resist the First Approaches of Tyranny - Mercy Otis Warren

[@USA_djhiggi77]

So hold on, does this only apply to the glock style pistol frames or does this apply to all 80 percents including AR9/15 and AR10 lowers as well?

[@chain-breakingsage]

Step 1 buy a billet Step 2 mill it out Step 3 gift it to a stranger Step 4 watch ATF lose their minds

[@dhgoody]

IF ATF's new frames and receivers rule is upheld, then Polymer80 and similar companies will be driven out of business entirely. If you have to fill out a 4473, why not just buy the fully built firearm? I sincerely hope the lawsuits will follow fast and furious, and I for one will be donating to GOA, FPC, 2nd Amen. Foundation, CCRKBA, JPFO, and any other pro gun entity that actually fights hard for our constittutional rights. Do you hear me, NRA?

[@jamesanderson8219]

P80 already sells fully completed, serialized frames.

[@modern-daypioneer2179]

Personal made firearms??? Does this only pertain to 80% lowers/frames?? Is it legal to make your own firearm from scratch if you have the ability? Or would that have to have a serial number?

[@jimsinnovations2737]

Not you don't have to. If say you 3dprinted it. Your good. This is for buying a lower and or taking it to a shop for repair etc they will have to serialize it

[@modern-daypioneer2179]

Thank you I meant taking a chunk of aluminum and Milling my own lowers or making something like a slam fire shotgun out of machined pipes

[@dwwolf4636]

It means they purjured themselves in Texas recently.

[@brettmoore5429]

What about the restraining order against the atf enforcing this?

[@PNWMinuteMan2000]

Can you do a video on KZbin for dol needing your 4473 form.

[@tysonc6422]

Thank you!

[@kdcustoms1272]

I'm sure they could go back and find out when you bought the parts if they really want.

[@SM-cg2dc]

I’ve never bought one of these kits. I have built a lot of ARs over the years. Buying a $50 to $100 lower is a sure thing, as milling out a lower always seemed risky to me because if you mess it up, you have a paper weight. So, down the road after they serialize these 80% lowers, what happens if I buy one and go to machining it and screw it up???? Does that number live on and have to be kept around to remind me of my mistakes till the day I die, or can I throw it away and get another? Can I get another with the same number or is the consumer screwed by having to get repeated background check for every oops???

[@genocide98]

I would assume like all firearms if an individual made an irreparable mistake during the manufacture it could be destroyed or forfeit. seeing as every "partial" receiver will be treated as a functional firearm another background check/transfer/etc would be necessary. it seems to me that the purpose of these rulings is to make partially completed parts obsolete by forcing law abiding entities like manufacturers and businesses to create a paper trail for the products. Like you pointed out, if someone were to go through the process of paying for a background check and transfer, aside from curiosity there is no point in purchasing a "partially completed" frame or receiver because they are now considered complete but with extra steps and expense for a layperson.

[@janiebarber7884]

How would this not apply to the Sig P320 series, it's the same thing? You can buy 100% frames without the trigger pack.

[@cops312]

So does this new ATF frame and receiver law apply to uppers as well or only lowers?

[@ericblair5153]

Only the regulated part

[@melissasmess2773]

Only the lower, which is the firearm

[@cops312]

@@melissasmess2773 I thought they were trying to make uppers a serialized part as well. Hopefully they never do

[@warpony4202]

As of now just lowers but they want the upper also and all parts.

[@cops312]

@@warpony4202 such BS

[@Sourpusscandy]

Since ;you’re reporting on this issue, please explain how a gun is serialized. Who does it?

[@toddbernal2183]

Starting when? You can still buy them today without a background check?

[@jimsinnovations2737]

Not anymore, FFL now tried to order one Wednesday morning

[@nyc10021]

How can we fill out a 4473 on an item that has no serial number? Does this nean they are all going to be serialized from now on? Also, it’s not just having to fill out a form for these - it means there are transfer fees and call-in fees, etc.

[@ObamaoZedong]

So where exactly do they define the line between a hunk of plastic and a firearm?

[@vincenzoluisi5916]

How long will it be before Washington amends RCW 9.41.326 and changes the 2019 date?

[@frankc1430]

Is this also the same for Illinois ghost gun ban?

[@mycatexploaded]

It means nothing to me. They don't have the authority to just make up whatever they want to enforce.

[@angelastevens4673]

I may have missed it but is there a date that the ATF has set for enforcement?

[@jimsinnovations2737]

Already passed was in the omnibus bill day after Xmas it went into effect I believe. they snuck it in spending bill lol

[@angelastevens4673]

@@jimsinnovations2737 I don’t think there was anything specific in the omnibus package about polymer 80 frames. If it was passed by Congress, it would actually be law. This video is concerning a letter to FFL’s by the ATF released a couple nights ago. Another ATF “ re-interpretation.”

[@jimsinnovations2737]

@@angelastevens4673 it is tho you will see

[@angelastevens4673]

@@jimsinnovations2737 none of what you are saying answers my question with factual information.

[@jimsinnovations2737]

Check the bill..

[@JenkinsStevenD]

6:23, need to be careful with the term "manufacture." This, in legalese this means building with intent to sell. A person who builds it for personal use is creating a PMF or "Privately Made Firearm." This is not the same as manufacturing.

[@Phoenix_Atlas]

I'm going to 3d print frames 24/7 now

[@helidude3502]

Concerning the Washington law. Keep in mind the date of release of each model. While the “space gun” version one was released earlier, the pf45 and the single stack versions were released later. I don’t know the dates, a cop on the street might not know the dates, but a prosecutor likely will. Your purchase records could reflect the possible timeframe of the build. That social media post when you were living in Texas during 2020, “just got my p80 today” and then you moved to Washington in 2021 with the same gun, may affect your legal requirements. I’m not an attorney, nor have I ever been to Washington so this isn’t legal advice, just my thoughts on the matter.🤔

[@ericsfishingadventures4433]

Gosh I just hope this gets struck down in the courts sooner than later! But we all know that these things move slow in courts..the way it's going lately with the gov taking the L more often than not. I'm going to try and remain optimistic.

[@momo-hm5ru]

What about all the open letters on pistol braces, saying they were good etc etc, Now they say they are not. So to hell with these open letters. They obviously don't mean anything. Right?

[@DannyG2493]

So can we still get the rails shipped here, asking for a friend 😅?

[@jamess6122]

What is required to serialize a frame? Is it just attaching (riveting) a metal plate to the frame with a number, like "ABC000001", that you make up or do you have to apply to ATF and be assigned a number.

[@ObamaoZedong]

As the manufacturer, you come up with your own serial number.

[@jamess6122]

In that case there are going to be a lot of polymer 80's with serial number 1.

[@comicninja6742]

Doesn’t matter WA already got rid of home building and any 80’s

[@KaletheQuick]

Is there a way to do a bulk purchase of items? Like is there some way to notate serial numbers 1003-1053?

[@clesheanj]

Does this include an unused kit as well?

[@GingerAleDude]

Does this mean WA non-resident cannot take a personal unserialized firearm into the state?

[@firemann3295]

Luckily Missouri passed SAPA

[@wymanscorneroftheworld8777]

So why would anyone but an 80% anymore? Enter the 79% lower

[@svbarryduckworth628]

How much extra cost is it going to burden the consumer to have an FFL serialize these 80% kits and do all the paperwork related to that plus the background check? It seems to me it may easily more than double the cost for some of the cheapest bare-bone versions of these kits.

[@earnieferguson727]

I’ve been hearing $50+ to engrave SN and &25 to $35 for background check and who knows what they will charge for the SN itself! Cheaper to loose it in a boating accident!

[@DuckGuy-1957]

Two pieces of plumbing pipe, a nail and a piece of wood can be made into a shotgun. _Does that mean plumbing pipe has to be serialized?_

[@robgrey6183]

"....It's not your problem it's theirs..." LOL if they decide to jam you up on it it WILL be YOUR problem to the tune of $3-400/hr.

[@lehilehi8636]

ATF does have authority to promulgate rules. Those rules must be consistent with the statute Congress passed, including the rule-making authority Congress delegated to the agency. Rules that meet those requirements are law. Rules that don't meet those requirements may be successfully challenged in court.

[@mtnbkr5478]

Which allows them to make up anything they want and wait for people to pay to fight to get their rights back. Which is great for attorneys!

[@earnieferguson727]

@@mtnbkr5478 legalized crooks!!!

[@johnnyrehder2153]

I'll just buy a complete rifle if I need another one.