What DOES It Mean To Be CREATED In God's IMAGE?

Genesis 1:26 has been used as a proof text in reference to the Trinity, this is a well known traditional argument, the problem is, it doesn't really work. In Genesis 1:26, God is speaking to the heavenly host. It's as simple as that. It's the plural of exhortation. And the reason for this is that the heavenly host and humans are made in God's image. They are imagers of God, in heaven, and we are God's imagers on earth. Check it out!

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[@two-tone6524]

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[@mario.migneault]

Thanks Mike, as a born again believer but having a degreein Literature ans minor in philosophy, I had many questions that Pastors avoid truly explaining. I saw the 2nd Yahweh in the bible but watching your Unseen Realm online was great. You are a blessing, keep uo the good work, stay healthy and thanks to the whole team of Naked Bible. God bless.

[@samsamsam82]

Amazing work wow !

[@deborahd2936]

I really really appreciate these videos. Others think this stuff is in error, but I think it’s accurate. This understanding is actually defendable to outsiders more often than not.

[@stevetaylor4577]

Let US make man in our image... The lord will create a NEW THING on Earth... Adam was a pattern of the one to come... I came to FINISH my Fathers work... It is FINISHED... What counts is a NEW CREATION... Created to be LIKE GOD in true righteousness & holiness..And by this one sacrifice he is able to MAKE HOLY all who are being MADE HOLY... Will transform our lowly bodies to be like his glorious body...dressed in a robe reaching down to his feet and with a golden sash around his chest. The hair on his head was white like wool, as white as snow, and his eyes were like blazing fire. His feet were like bronze glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of rushing waters. In his right hand he held seven stars, and coming out of his mouth was a sharp, double-edged sword. His face was like the sun shining in all its brilliance. When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever!

[@cjnav7832]

As ABBA Father and Jesus Son discussed - Image and likeness, They meant this: Body, Spirit & Being (Nefesh/Soul) That simple PS: God was not discussing it with the angels - lol!

[@edcarson3113]

@Todd Edwards Adam and Eve were remember.

[@padraiggluck5633]

Heb 2:16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

[@JRRodriguez-nu7po]

For now I am retracting this: "Correct, before the incarnation Christ "incarnated" as the Angel of the Lord. Christ was not created, He is Eternal and fully God, but He first entered creation in an angelic body before assuming His final incarnation as also fully human." Have not studied enough re angels or their nature to have a clear opinion.

[@bobpolo2964]

@@JRRodriguez-nu7po What?

[@marvalice3455]

Ok. Jesus became human, not an angel. So what?

[@andriod090]

@Martin Patrick I think it’s more along the lines of drawing distinctions between Angels and Mankind; keep in mind you have descriptions in Ezekiel. Moreover, it was also said in 1 John that he is “of water and blood”; the water was referencing the Living Waters of God and the blood of mankind - as God is an invisible Spirit who took on the flesh of mankind.

[@edgurash834]

Nowhere in the Bible does it say that the Angels are created in the "image of God." Especially not Job 38 as he claimed. He is adding to the scriptures in order to try and justify his position.

[@talloak9104]

Reading the comments here makes me loose all hope in mankind so I’m gonna stop reading and just marvel over the unending patience of our God with the offspring of Adam and Eve.

[@ponscardinal2862]

Most comments that you've read doesnt agreed on you thats why you said that. If you know what is good for humankind, then you are acting like a God.

[@ronsimart]

@Martin Patrick I agree with you Martin

[@starpowerfitness9651]

Ahhh you guys. Come to the Spirit and the Bride - God the Father and God the Mother. True God, Zhang Gil-Ja, our Heavenly Mother, is actually on the earth with us as we speak.

[@starpowerfitness9651]

@Martin Patrick show me a Scripture that shows there’s no Mother. I’ll show you 10 Scriptures that says there are. Only at the Church of God, do we keep all the commandments of God and worship true God

[@starpowerfitness9651]

@Martin Patrick no, not Catholic. I attend the Church of God.

[@jackpullen3820]

Really great teachers explain things simply and are easily understood! Thanks

[@timbrock7563]

I so appreciate your work. I believe there is even a much clearer and scripturally validated answer to who God the Father was speaking to when He said Us. It's His Son Jesus. We can find this in the gospel of John chapter 1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1 RSV The Word then became Flesh. And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father. John 1:14 RSV

[@regularstan6212]

However we do known other beings asides from the Trinity were present during creation. Job 38 particularly verse 4-7. We have the acknowledge the other beings were present during that time. Otherwise it creates problems with book of Job.

[@regularstan6212]

It even mentions the sons of God. In job 38

[@thorodinson2017]

If God the father, son and holy spirit are all 1. Then what sense does it make for even inserting "let us make man in our image". They're all one and know what the other knows. There is literally zero reason for that statement since they're the same. They know therefore no reason to even speak those words.

[@whoamI-xi3ln]

After watching for a few minutes, I thought 'Huh, this man's voice sounds kind of hoarse.' And then I thought about it for about two more seconds until I realized that this is Dr. Heiser speaking. I'm German and our word for "hoarse" is literally "heiser". Living up to his name I see.

[@theduck1972]

And how comfortable and sure, of his power, authority, and wisdom to know allowing created beings this freedom, are zero threat to him. Total power.

[@sarahyip2825]

Spot on!

[@zarathustratata834]

I am new here!!👍

[@martasanimill3177]

If you havent read unseen realm. You can KZbin the video for good understanding. Welcome to eye opening truth. Chuck Missler's series on Angels,( youtube also), will help with that, too

[@marshallmajor4971]

Welcome, Dr. Heiser is a most wonderful teacher. Fortunate

[@elisabowlet3399]

Welcome !

[@hammiessandwich7447]

Me too

[@jpaul1599]

Heiser, us correct when he states that nations were divided according to the number of the heavenly beings while GOD reserves for Himself, Israel and it's people for a purpose . But, Heiser puts on strange interpretations and based on his own imaginations. There is nothing in Job for Heiser to claim that the image of everything on earth is also existent in Heaven. The Word of God does not reveal anywhere that apart from Man nobody else is created in His image. The angels and the gods that He created are not made in God's image. Fallen angels have no opportunity to repent or be saved or redeemed . Similarly the gods have no second opportunity. It's said of them in Psalm 82:7 "thou will die like men, like one of the princes (referring to Lucifer). There destination is the Lake of Fire. None of the angels or gods are joint heirs in Christ. Only Believers are. Shalom.

[@cjnav7832]

08:08 "God is speaking to the heavenly host." No, He's not, as the "heavenly host" does NOT create. God is speaking Father to Son.... Then in Chptr two - a new title is introduced: "THE LORD GOD" So now He who created according to Jn 1:1-5 starts to create. Jesus in His preincarnate body picks up the earth to create. And when Adam heard the footsteps in Gen 3 - yup, Jesus was walking in the Garden while ABBA Father was seated on the throne - as ALWAYS.

[@snb2186]

That's true, as we know the WORD of God is Jesus.

[@JRRodriguez-nu7po]

Notice the use of "somehow" like a magician distracting you.

[@skywalker9770]

If you watch his other videos he explains that while God does all the creating He is nonetheless involving the angels; his heavenly family in the process. He is involving them well that's what Mike teaches anyway. If you look at Job when God created everything the 'morning stars' (angels) sang for joy they were certainly watching and aware Job 38 v 4 - 7 although that is not the strongest argument perhaps but there are other references to ' we' and ' us' and why would God address himself when as a triune God every member of the trinity knows everything already. It would be unnecessary that is the point he makes (you could argue its just a literary device for the reader perhaps I dunno) but this all links in with Michael's teaching on the divine council and there is plenty of evidence for that in scripture it just often gets overlooked. It's worth reading his book the unseen realm and then make your own mind up I guess. He has expertise in Hebrew and worth listening to IMO

[@snb2186]

Dan the man, there are three possibilities of what God could've ment when he said "we", one of these are unlikely...First, God may be referring to Himself and the angels. This seems unlikely given the rest of Scripture's depiction of angels. These beings are presented as servants and messengers, not creators or rulers. Second, this could be what scholars call a plural of self-exhortation or self-encouragement, meaning He is referring only to Himself. This would also be referred to as "the royal 'we,'" something we see used by human kings and rulers when making proclamations or decrees. The third possibility is that God is speaking as a Trinity, of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. According to Scripture as a whole, the full Trinity was present at creation. Genesis 1:2 describes the Spirit of God hovering over the waters, and John 1:1-3 reveals that the Word, Christ, was active in the creation of all things. Bibleref.com

[@truthbebold4009]

@@snb2186 You left out that the Father was speaking to His Son.

[@colmwhateveryoulike3240]

I find it more of a leap for God to use "us" to include beings who have no capacity to do the thing that He speaks of. I still think it is clearer that God is triune in the begining just as He is now.

[@Max-yb1mx]

I thought this for a long time, but it doesn't make sense. God (presumedly the Father) was speaking to a number of beings. We know this because of the plurality. That's obvious. However, the act of creation has a singular attribution. "Let us create... Then God created." However, we know from other verses that all three persons of God took part in the creation. Psalms says that by the word of the Lord the heavens were created and the host of them by the Spirit of his mouth. We also know this from the gospel of John. Colossians also attributes the creation to the Son. So if all three took part in the creation, then the singular attribution doesn't make sense if plurality was used to address the Trinity in the verse before.

[@colmwhateveryoulike3240]

@@Max-yb1mx But the angels did not create anything, so isn't that more of a stretch than God (accurately) referring to Himself as singular and triune?

[@Max-yb1mx]

@@colmwhateveryoulike3240 Right, but Heiser never argued that the angels created anything. In fact, he acknowledges the singular attribution of God during the creation. His point is that God was surrounded by the heavenly hosts when he spoke. It's like saying to your wife, "let's grill hamburgers for dinner" and then you grilling the hamburgers yourself.

[@LionMillz]

That’s a dope analogy

[@colmwhateveryoulike3240]

@@Max-yb1mx Very plausible, yes. Thanks. Then I think for now I am neutral edging toward agreeing with you. I must hear Heiser out more and look up expositions of the opposing viewpoint. Any you might recommend I look up?

[@ocomin8089]

Wow! & Wow! As a believer for well over 40 years, I find that, the more I seek Him & to know Him better, He provides me with priceless nuggets like this. Man....no different than many of those of the spirit realm, "want autonomy" I can absolutely confirm, that through my lifes experiences here, I have witnessed the strife, the pain, the agony, the suffering, that results from just that alone, in my own family alone. I didn't have to go outside of it to see, witness and experience that, but did not realise 'till just now, that's exactly what causes so many problems. Those seeking autonomy to whom it was not delegated. Just look at this, our great nation today, and see.

[@jacobjones3916]

This argument is ridiculous. To say that the "us" refers to God speaking to the angels could be true. We know, though, that both the Holy Spirit and Jesus created humanity with the Father. Gen. 1:2 specifically mentions the Spirit of God. Likewise John 1:1-3 says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him;and without him was not anything made that was made." See also Col. 1:16. It is purely speculative for this man to say that God was speaking to angels.

[@itneeds2bsaid528]

He has a doctorate in this stuff and wrote a whole book on it, not to mention Bible studies with cross references, ancient hebrew sources, and contextual proof. Be quiet and listen.

[@SteezoENT]

@@itneeds2bsaid528 so he’s wrong, the text is clear. John 1 discredits what he is saying. Open your eyes and stop being fooled by deceit.

[@cjnav7832]

@@itneeds2bsaid528 SO? and SO! If I write many books - will you follow me. I'm glad Jacob spoke up. This teaching is whack!

[@cjnav7832]

@@SteezoENT yep!

[@cjnav7832]

It is very ridiculous, JJ! Thank you

[@waynemccuen8213]

Bruce Waltke is still cookin. Gonna be 90 this year.

[@pamross2744]

Also Psalms 82:6 and 7 shed light on this. We are the gods or angels but we shall die as men! and fall like one of the Princes! thats Satan! Job 38:4 fits with Psalm 38:6-7

[@ronmcallister7054]

I believe God was speaking to the Holy Spirit and His Son 'the Word, that He would make man three parts as they are. So we have mind, body, and spirit. I believe this video is stretching a bit.

[@snb2186]

That's exacly what I'm saying!

[@redit5332]

That may be, however, I don't think God the Father can keep his creation on earth a secret, so yes, he announced it to the Divine Council before he made Adam and Eve. It is a logical conclusion. If he did not, don't you think the angels would question God as to WHAT these creatures were and WHY he wanted the Watchers to keep an eye on them? Read the story of Job or the story of the Tower of Babylon and you will see evidence that their duty is to watch the goings-on on earth and to report back what they see and hear to God (a title). God's sacred space for the Divine Council on earth was the Garden of Eden and his sacred space in heaven is the New Jerusalem. Adam and Eve were the caretakers of that sacred space where God's Divine Council met on earth. Even the angels had a job description (a function) depending on their kind in the New Jerusalem and some play a role as messengers/watchers for God (a title) on earth. Jesus did say the Father is greater than I and that means that he is greater than the Holy Spirit and the rest of the Elohim, i.e. Angels. Elohim is a place (meaning a dimension). Only God, the Son, the Holy Spirit and the angels can traverse the heavenly realm. Nothing fleshly can enter the heavenly realm. God (a title) as well as the angels can traverse the earthly and heavenly dimensions. Jesus said he also does not know the day nor the hour that he will return on the Day of the Lord. This means that the Son and the Holy Spirit did the Father's bidding and fulfilled a function and were a part of (heads of--plural) the Divine Council just as the angels fulfil a function. Ask yourself this question, "Why did God, the Father not offer himself on the cross for our salvation?" Jesus' and the Holy Spirit's function is well defined in the OT and the NT. Jesus prayed to his Father in heaven to raise Lazarus from the dead. He receives his authority from God the Father. When the Apostles did miracles, they prayed to God the Father and asked that their prayer be fulfilled in the name of Jesus. Jesus name marked them as a follower of Christ and their prayer will be fulfilled if it is His will (it fulfills a function in His divine plan to fulfill His purpose.) Humans fulfill a divine purpose on the Council on earth now as they will in the New Jerusalem. We will be given authority over angels and given authority over the nations of the earth. Satan and the Fallen will be stripped of their evil power over the nations at the Wrath.

[@stephencornett5520]

But the Holy Ghost is Christ aka the spirit of Truth. So yeah he was talking to his son. Act 20:28 - Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

[@RYROSmetaldefender]

I believe Hes adressing both the trinity and the rest of the heavenly host. Just as isaiah 6 ,or in the case of prophet Micaiah on the Ahab situation, whatever God is planing, He shares.

[@dannycv82]

@@redit5332 Colossians 2:8-9 (KJV) 8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 *For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.* Philippians 2:5-8 (KJV) 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the *form of God,*thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

[@chasewallin43]

so wait... does that mean we are all inevitably going to become fallen angels? you said god knows we will rebel. towards the end... you said its inevitable. so then with that understanding we all have only one place to end up at. am i the only one that finds that a little disturbing?

[@groundedcrownsrising]

Look at the definition for the word ground...🧐 We're already there⁉️ Life ain't a Play ground. It's a Proving ground. Wholeness and Balance ⚖️

[@chasewallin43]

@Pond3r Thiz okay mr vip. Didnt know god made VIPs. Look. I'm a man of god. I love god. It was simply a misunderstanding

[@pcan777]

that's why Jesus came

[@investfluent4143]

Why not just God speaking within himself? Meaning the Son and the Holy Spirit?

[@tacticalfilmfightingacadem9200]

I see it that way too

[@hosoiarchives4858]

Still plural

[@ramblincapuchin9075]

It had not yet been established what significance the triune God had. I find that to be more of a scholastic endeavor than a narrative insight We make more of a big deal of it then the narrative even presents. So let it be scholastic; if you need to know what _us_ means find the instances of the term and cross reference them to context of what's being said If anything, having it be about the Father son, holy ghost had lesser value than what was happening in the narrative of creation > rebellion. In the triune message concepts like Father or Son bear no context until the coming of the Messiah. Who, until that time was idolized as a revolutionary, not a redeemer God has been displaced as Father and man has been divorced from communion as a result of the fall. So why would God be talking to parts of himself _that way_ when there is no agency to the comforter and sonship hadn't even been established in the whole universe

[@rollysj384]

i can't take all this twisting...

[@falconguy4768]

Same as it means in gen 5:3 We as humans are honored to look like God we are made in his image just like Seth was made in Adams image and likeness. God is not speaking to the heavenly court he is speaking of the trinity

[@falconguy4768]

Tiger way to go tiger

[@blanktrigger8863]

As I said: "His view of the "let us" language in Genesis is disproved by the Genesis 16-19, where the text shows us that the "us" YHWH refers to is the Trinity. If more people knew about the proper identity of the angel of YHWH they would know this. Those four chapters end with Genesis 19 saying that a YHWH on earth rained down fire from a YHWH out of heaven: this after YHWH went back to heaven after claiming that he would go down to Sodom and Gomorrah but never went. What most people fail to note is that the bible often reveals what former things in the text mean explicitly via latter parts of the text. Thus, Ezekiel 1 reveals to us what Moses saw on Mount Sinai and what Elisha saw in Kings, what Job saw with the whirlwind, etc etc. Likewise, when YHWH says to Abraham (paraphrase) "reports have come back to me about a great and wicked sin being committed in this place and so I have personally come down to see it for myself", we therefore know what it means in the babel scene that he said "let us go down". When YHWH personally shows up to see about a great and awful sin, it's for the purpose of judgment - and it's his triune self-conversation and self-revelation that's occurring. However, also revealed in this is what "let us" language means, period. It doesn't refer to anyone other than the echad YHWH in his triune action."

[@falconguy4768]

@@blanktrigger8863 thank God for you Trigger, keep pullin your trigger God gave it to for a good reason

[@higguana851972]

Did anyone listen to him properly,the original text in Hebrew goes from let us(plural) to,and God made man in His image(singular).Heaven and Earth are together in Eden,His spiritual family are with Him and He voices to them let us make man in our image,(Plural) and then the text states;then GOD(TRIUNE) in the singular-made man in His image.God is not talking to Himself,they are coeternal.GOD allows His Spiritual family(elohims) to participate,which you’ll see through the Scriptures.Take a look at the judgement of Arab.GOD was discussing with His elohim about taking out Arab,they are discussing the matter and one says I will put a lying spirit in the mouth of his prophet.His council come up with the idea,and GOD decreed it.You’ll need to read his book,and yes you will be challenged on your church traditions etc.Be blessed brethren

[@falconguy4768]

@Johnny Bravo not odd u had to speak to yourself to write this response

[@bibleprophecy4400]

Love your work. Thank you for all you have done for the Kingdom.

[@greenline5351]

So you're not trinitarian? Let Us make man in Our image. Sounds like a son who is the word talking to the father, all things were created by Him and for Him and through Him. And I don't remember anywhere reading let us create the messengers in our image. They are serving spirits sent to aid man in coming to God

[@BlessedOne686]

Genesis 1:26 is not the only place where the trinity can be proven.

[@tfmtrueformmotivations6463]

I see that The Father is speaking to heavenly hosts (divine counsel) hence the plurality. However in the actual act the Father sends the (Son) who does the act while sending the spirit in a through us to continue the process (through our lives). And the reason the use of singular is because the three are one (in purpose, and idea). So this understanding allows for Heiser’s explanation to be valid, the trinitarian commentary that has been so ingrained since the early church to be valid, keeping with the plurality and singularity usage of the language.

[@vladepast4936]

I have never met you but I was following you for years. You were like a fresh breath of air. I miss you, brother... badly... :(

[@CRoadwarrior]

Heiser claimed to be trinitarian, yet he tried to tell us that Gen. 1:26 is not the Triune God speaking, as many scholars and theologians before him have argued. But I find it interesting that he never debated these things with anyone. He's always presenting his views, or doing a lecture. I have never seen him challenged in public over these things, which does say something about his ability to defend his position and argue against someone challenging his claims.

[@hammiessandwich7447]

I have been reading through the Bible for the first time from the beginning to the end for a year now I am a baby Christian in my the standing of the Bible I am looking forward to one of the books today my outlook on the Bible for the past few days is very different I am able to understand the difference now between God the living God and small g god's My husband got saved not so long ago and his view is very similar to this he was a pagan now he said he knows the living God and that he is above all things maybe not in them words. then I came across these videos they were very helpful.

[@rogerelder1196]

In my opinion, In GOD'S image means we are creators on this Earth. This was what angered Lucifer and made envy and pride grow to the point he led Eve to sin by causing Eve to adversely create sin. This was through a perversion or twisting of truth that taking of the fruit would make her as GOD having the ability to know good vs evil. When she was deciding that for herself when she took the fruit thereby creating sin as did Adam when he followed her. The fallen as powerful as they are cannot create for themselves. They only create through influencing humans. This Earth is our home not theirs. They are homeless here wandering and spiteful. We are still creators though we are influenced adversely by the fallen to this day. They are still perverting and twisting truth and causing us to create a reality which is against GOD and against humanity itself. We do have free will to recognize and reject them and their influence and follow GOD.

[@Hannahcode1]

Of course God knew we would fall. Part of His perfect plan for the free wills he gave us, to choose life or death. Good or evil and truth from lie, light from darkness. Perfect set up, to test our love through free will. We serve a jealous God and salvation or destruction lies in the Potter's hands. Is the potter the Lord Jesus? I think so.

[@LiteralHitter]

There is NO truth coming from the son of man, only the flashes of light. If you are a woman you catch it fast, but on the next day you are feeding pigs. In your favorite church. The Church is the woman that draws in pigs to feed them and devours them later when they cannot move.(learn Greek and Syrian then judge me) And what do pigs do...they feed the soil. Michael is in grave danger now, giving the keys of The Kingdom to the BLIND. Just like my best friend did... He's wrestling the Dragon now and he's in trouble. Not much time left... If you can reach him somehow(cause I'm ''blocked'') just tell him that someone needs to talk. Before it's to late...

[@LiteralHitter]

...warm is the question...clear is the mind...left the perception...went for the blind...

[@thetruthchannel349]

God is making points to 'higher' beings that we cant comprehend just as God is making points to US they cannot comprehend

[@thetruthchannel349]

@Boot Hat *That question makes no sense*

[@kenwebster5053]

I always thought the pluralism of God refers to the trinity. Maybe I'm simple. God's image clearly can't refer to physicality but must in same way refer to spirit or soul or character. Well, we note that Gods is Love and that love is patient, kind etc. However, people are not like that or at lest not entirely. We have to realise that a lot has happened to mankind since the original creation of Adam. We learn that a part of Adam was removed from him to create Eve. Now a lot of guys don't seem to realise that part was never put back, so Adam was not the same as before but the image was split between the 2 of them. We read in Romans for example that when the the Holy Spirit will bring our dead spirit to life. Well How did our spirit die? Well obviously, we inherit this state from Adam because of the fall in which their Spirits died and their inheritance became death. So Adam after the fall was not the same type of creature as before, so we too inherit this state of a fallen, corrupt spiritually dead creature. This is why the image of Gods doesn't really work in the natural state of humanity. It doesn't really work perfectly in the redeemed state either because the spirit & body are conflicted. Redemption isn't fully completed (consummated) until resurrection. We know that though the body must die, if the spirit lives, it will bring the body to life again. Not the same body obviously but a redeemed and uncorrupted resurrected body. This is what Paul teaches in Romans 8. Until that happens, it is just plain unreasonable to expect the image of God analogy to fully function well. This is what redemption means, restoration to the former state of being. No living person has experienced this state to know what that really means. The only humans that ever knew are Adam, Eve & Yeshua. I include Yeshua because through his mother Mary, he stands before the law as our kinsman redeemer and as his inheritance is not in Adam but in his father divine. He alone can redeem people & stand as head of Adam's household. There is no other hope in anyone or anything else. Yeshua is the only one who is legally qualified as kinsman redeemer of Adam's lost inheritance to stand as head & protector of his household.

[@lilchristuten7568]

You were right the pluralism in Genesis is a reference to the trinity. However when it comes to the image of God, it refers to our "physical" makeup, that is how we look, more specifically how we were perceived, to the angels and the animals before the fall we were perceived to be copies of God. The likeness of God is the way in which we are spiritually like Him, were aren't perfect like God but we had the same capacity of being able to speak and cause things to happen like God (even the heathen[those who are still spiritually dead] has this ability, and more often than not they use it to speak death into their lives). However it is also a matter of perception both outer perception and inner perception(for this reason the mind of those who are born again must be renewed, so that we can perceive who and what we are in Christ whom we have been recreated in [we're not just in His image, made after His likeness, we are a part of Him). Not this recreation (being born again) is a spiritual one, the old man is dead, we are different from what we were before. The glory inside of us, that is the Holy Ghost, gives life to our mortal bodies, this isn't to say that He caused out bodies to have physical life, it is our spirit that causes that, no the Holy Ghost causes the manifestations of death to be removed from our bodies (sickness, disease, distress, depression, any form of feebleness or deterioration).

[@regularstan6212]

either or, we know other being aside from trinity were present in the creation of man. Job 38:4-8. Unless the bible is not coherent with itself.

[@cjnav7832]

"God doesn't talk to Himself." Haha. Who spoke from heaven's Throne to the earth to His Son???? God speaking to Himself (and others). Father to Son. I mean who was Jesus speaking to when he would say: "Father..." Who did He pray to? Who did He talk to? Who is Jesus speaking to in Jn 17; while in the garden? Mike, don't you ever talk to yourself? Never? It's way simple, Mike. Body = Jesus Son (always! before and after Mary's womb) Spirit = Holy Spirit from within our heavenly Father Soul = Abba Father the Nefesh of our One Triune God That IS THE IMAGE & LIKENESS OF GOD that we are made after. Now go look in the mirror: Body = Dust .....A non-corruptable, immortal one coming soooon. Spirit = Breath of L I F E ...if born again, then the part of you that IS SAVED ALREADY BY FAITH Soul = That inside us, our Heart, or Mind, our desire, our Nefesh. That which is wicked according to God and being daily saved. Misled A LOT OF PEOPLE. If I am wrong, pls tell me, Mike. Bless you, friend. ~ cj James 3:1

[@ahveer]

That didn’t really answer the question in the title of this video

[@SavedSkeptic]

Yes it did. We are his representatives on earth and share his attributes like freedom

[@MyOmegaBeams]

Fantastic explanation as usual.

[@lw216316]

Until listening to this video I always thought of the "let us" being a conversation between the Trinity. I now have another option to consider.

[@AttlasAllux]

It is simple: to be made in the image and likeness of God is to be a Tri-Unity (Trinity). And it's right there in "human being." Hume (earthen vessel), manas (Divine Mind), and Being (Innermost Individuated Essence of God). Human Being simply means, an Earthen Vessel for the Divine Mind of Being. A Tri-Unity. Made in the Image and likeness of God (Who is also a TriUnity). kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKq9oIyrrZ11epI (

[@margahe9157]

Please, can you make a video about Martin Luther's script "Against the free Will"?

[@qwerty-so6ml]

Genesis 1 is ELOHIM (Lucifer and the fallen angels). They made this realm. They made man in their image. (tares) Man is an idol, a trap to hunt angels. Genesis 2:7 the Lord God forms His representative in their system. (wheat) One Gospel: Gospel (GOOD ANGEL) of Reconciliation. Jesus Christ came into THEIR kingdom to reconcile fallen angels unto Himself. We are the fallen angels (ELOHIM) kept in DNA chains of darkness. If you do not confess being a fallen angel in Lucifer's kingdom, then you are an unbeliever. Unbeliever = those that claim to be made in the image of ELOHIM(gods). REPENT FALLEN ANGELS.

[@eastindiaV]

BROTHER! If Genesis says that God created man in his image, then should the machines that man creates be created in God's image?! That's what I aim to accomplish, BROTHER!

[@anthonylee5982]

This is ridiculous... Where at any time does scripture state that the heavenly hosts were created in God's image? Hebrews 1 1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; 13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? 14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

[@drummerboy737]

I think it's relevant but I don't think Dr. Heiser would receive that as saying the host does not bear God's image. I think Charles Lawson says it never says in the Bible that angels are made in God's Image.

[@kenapples]

You would do well to heed these words and find yourself a bible believing church asap. “A blind man cannot guide a blind man, can he? Will they not both fall into a pit?” Like 6:39

[@jimnorris8201]

He almost gets to the answer...WE are the embodiment of our spirits...both made in the image of our literal Father in Heaven. This is why we can be redeemed by Christ...because we were once WITH God. O

[@cjnav7832]

"our image" You make this too hard. Michael, you are three in one. Right? #1. Body #2. Spirit #3. Soul #1. Is ABBA Father not the SOUL, the nefesh of the One Triune God? #2. Is Jesus not the Body of God and the fulness and image of the One God? #3. Is the Holy Spirit not the Spirit of the One God. Are there not three parts to the one - are you not three in one Mike? Is God not three in one? You made this way too hard and missed the simplicity of it in Gen 2: Body Spirit Being - Soul THAT IS GOD'S IMAGE AND LIKENESS THAT WE ARE MADE IN! KISS It's simple Mike. Keep it simple Mike. Use the txt. You got soooo far from the POINT at the end of this mini propcast (propogandacast). You told us your OPINION according to your understanding and feelings, only. Don't lean on them Mike. Pray and fst and ask Holy Spirit (the ANOTHER) if you are right, AND IF YOU ARE TEACHING IT TO OTHERS CORRECTLY. James 3:1 Thumbs down. It's a shame, kinda like Pat Roberson. Just because you have a platform and a lot of followers and a studio to say what you want from - people actually beleive what you guys say. And not that all that u say is wrong, Mike. But in your effort to explain the mysteries of God - you missed it here. James 3:1

[@skywalker9770]

The problem with your body, soul and spirit dynamic is that the bible uses the words soul and spirit interchangeably. Wayne grudem explains there are different views on this : trichotomy and dichotomy but the bible seems to use soul and spirit interchangeably meaning two words for one meaning in which case if you wish to split humans into 3 parts then you'll have to find a third 'part' elsewhere because you'll have body and soul/spirit which is 2 parts and a third 'heart' or 'mind' or 'bowels'. I just don't think this 3 part idea really works when it's analysed.

[@jonmkl]

Except that Jesus did not become an Angel and join them to himself. Man’s relationship to God is different then all other “imagers” as you call them. God becoming a man who is the express image of his likeness is the actual fulfillment of what God started in Genesis. That is why Jesus is the “last Adam”. We are not created in the image of angels. The “we” in 1:1 is the godhead, the three that are one, hence why we are above the angels now that we are born again in that image and likeness. The proof is the beatific vision, when we behold _him_ we will be like him. Beholding angels does not change us, only beholding God.

[@blanktrigger8863]

I've been googling and even his use of the phrase "plural of exhortation" appears to refer only to YHWH referring to only himself. It would break the rules of the concept for it to include anyone other than himself. For example, similar language is used when figures in the bible say "let us give ourselves over to YHWH" or something like that; BUT the "us" is clearly used there to refer to groups of human beings. And so all the human beings in the group are giving themselves over to YHWH. Yet when YHWH says "let us make", it says "he made them in his". Where are the Others who are equal to YHWH in nature who should be doing the creating along with him? It breaks the concept of the "plural of exhortation" for him to use "us" language and then to act alone. When the human beings at Babel said "let us make a name for ourselves", "they" made a name for themselves. It wasn't one person saying "us" in his own will while talking to a group of other people and then acting by himself. He uses so much deception and it's quite alarming how many self-proclaimed Christians fall for it.

[@jonmkl]

@@blanktrigger8863 I don’t necessarily think it’s deception, I just think he’s wrong. To the man with a hammer everything looks like a nail, to the exegete with a novel biblical interpretation, they want to apply that interpretation to every single scripture even when it doesn’t entirely fit. This is why it’s so important to have a good foundation so you don’t get drawn off course by “shiny objects” so to speak.

[@blanktrigger8863]

@@jonmkl That could be an option, but the more I listen to him especially after looking into ancient paganism the more it seems to me like he's trying to bring back the Canaanite paganism in disguise.

[@Lili-Benovent]

TOMORROW’S FEARS - Lili Tomorrow when you wake again and find the world’s still here With all the zest of yesterday to sadden or to cheer There was no massive holocaust, no dead raised from the ground His promise to float you up, journey to your trials Will have to wait another day, trepidation all unfound. And when this happens every day throughout the years to come Will your faith grow stronger or will the doubts creep in? No planning for the future here or there, your life embroiled in sin For if he only takes the perfect, whose life on Earth was pure What of the human aspect, into the fire succumb. The holy ones judge each other, before the judgment day From the pulpit condemn, decry, their fellow travelers as impure The Judges of the Judges before the Earth implodes And everyone made to account, the strongest voice not sure A life of prayer gone all to waste, as confidence corrodes. Why worry of a future bleak, why think of future fears For if you try to change your fate, the world goes on unheeded There’ll be no Tribulation, Man’s destruction his own doing No God above, no day in Court, no casting out, all regrets unneeded Why worry of the rantings of those who think they know Of Spirits of the Underworld, pain and bliss, imaginations flow. Just take what comes, tell your God of hate Your life is not for him, your only life is yours So be it if you shun control, he won’t control your fate Your life on Earth is not to live with fear and shame and guilt The guilt is his, he made the snake, he cannot now berate Berate us for being human, Why then the potters hand did shake?

[@justinsmitley7619]

That was great! Thank you.

[@KingdomUploader]

For we who can't seem to 'clearly understand' some of these interpretations and for many of us who have loads of questions about Dr. Heiser's understanding.....what's stopping us from forming a zoom group - to meet and talk among ourselves about all these things? Personally, I get a whole lot of life from face to face and respectful dialog on zoom. I 'm a part of one church's zoom gatherings that helps me immensely. Anyone here up for setting up a zoom discussion? Not sure that i could set it up but would love to know if there'd be an interest in doing it. Thanks

[@TLSt-mx6lz]

"Our" Why? God speaks referring to His 3 Divine Persons, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. God's image is ONLY in our soul. Not our body. First created man is Adam ('adam in the collective sense) who has been given by the grace of God the use of the lands (' adamah) where man's body is to return. There is one God, who communicated to man His 3 divine persons. This is the only way to pray to God in profound worship.

[@LaMOi1]

Don’t agree with Mike on this one. Let US make man in OUR image. We know man was made in GOD’s image ALONE NOT - God + heavenly creatures IMAGE. Also - Let US make… Well if ONLY God is doing the making - then the heavenly host don’t help with the making/creating…. They’re only WATCHING. The WATCHERS

[@silverfox673]

I thought it was dealing with the trinity.

[@awakeosleeper3930]

It IS dealing with the Trinity. Michael Heiser is incorrect.

[@DRMSH]

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[@kentmichael4147]

"Let us" was to the heavenly host. What is the image of God. he tells you so you dont have to guess. Genesis 3:22"Now they (men) have become gods KNOWING GOOD AND EVIL. You are a type of god if this can be applied to you. otherwise you are beasts, fish, fowls, and or the creeping things. Jesus refrences this exact line of thought in John 10:34 he asks "Is it not written in your law, that I said YOU ARE gods?" to be in the image of GOD is to be able to percieve Good and Evil. Right from wrong. "For the tree of THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL you shall not eat, neither shall ye touch it lest ye die. Adam answered we hid from your voice for we knew that we were naked and ashamed. God answers "How dids't thou know thou wast naked?" "Have you eatin of the tree I commanded you should not? The latter verse is what Jesus was referencing Genisis 3:22 Then the Lord God said."Behold the MAN HAS BECOME LIKE ONE OF US (Both God and Angel) TO KNOW GOOD AND EVIL. So I must take up the tree lest man being evil should eat of the tree and live forever. Your physical image doesn't matter to a God that can be anything it wants, but your ability to know good and evil is important for a god can be judged according to the law, but the beasts etc can not. For they know no Law, neither can they learn it.

[@exjwfromwyoming1275]

Or maybe God was talking to His Son since he was the first of ALL Creation.......

[@exjwbiblebites2883]

"let us make" negates the heavenly host. The angels are never called makers or creators. If you want to believe "let us make/create mankind in our image and likeness" is God speaking to angels you have to believe angels are creators. "Let us" is God speaking to and through the word, the Son, through whom all things were made. The angels are not "spirit mankind." There is no passage in scripture that ever says or infers that angels are made in the image and likeness of God. Angels were created as static, purpose tuned beings. Mankind is the unique crown of creation. Adam was to expand Eden (the presence of God) over the earth. Not an angel. Angels are not creative. To state angels are imagers is an assumption not found stated in the text. The idea that was pushed by Jewish rabbis that let us make included the angelic hosts may have been a Jewish attempt to discredit the existence of Jesus as the pre-existent son and word of God. Another point on mankind is different than the angels, we are offered redemption, the rebel hosts are not given a Savior.

[@efrensandoval3435]

Wow.like this nonbeliever and those attending even some and their comments. How can any of you think to interpret the bible and are only blindly picking and choosing particular verses...first and foremost. THE BIBLE INTERPRETS ITSELF. the trinity .GOD THE FATHER JESUS THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT..as one they are in agreement with the letter of the law. 2 realms. The spiritual and the physical..the heavenly hosts are other civilizations GOD has created throughout his span.what you thought he was in darkness forever then decided to create us. When GOD said let us create man. The father son and spirit were talking to each others about us. Mind you this occurred after their was war in heaven. Proof their is other creations in the heavens.book of job. When GOD asked satan where he came from. To and fro up and down the earth. When mankind fell. We surrendered dominion of our planet to him. The sons of GOD are other representatives of their planets. Example.the son of seth who is the son of Adam who is the son of GOD. if mankind hadn't fallen. Adam and eve would have been our representative in the court of GOD..ANYWAY.THE BIBLE INTERPRETS ITSELF 🇺🇸😎🇺🇸

[@lfreeman2219]

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. John 1 Father Creator - Son Yahshua Savior - Ruah Breath of life Spirit; inseparable allowing the heavenly host family during creation. The key IS our Savior; "without him was not any thing made that was made" John 1. The importance is we are made in the image of Our Savior. (When we think G-D we MUST think Savior Spirit (one). John 10:30 I and my Father are one, 1John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Ruah Spirit: and these three are ONE. My belief and hope is The three are the witness and bear record of our creation in "the ONE image". What an Honor! 1John 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. This is our witness (in the image - Human Imagers - have Spirit Breath, Water and Blood that keep us alive) consider this being the Key of our image that will eternally remain. 1 John 3:2 Beloved, we are God's children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when he appears "we shall be like him", because we shall see him as he is. Ephesians 4:22-24 To put off your old self, which belongs to your former manner of life and is corrupt through deceitful desires, and to be renewed in the spirit of your minds, and to put on the new self, created after "the likeness of God" in true righteousness and holiness. Ephesians 5:1-2 Therefore be "imitators of God", as beloved children. And walk in love, as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us, a "fragrant" offering and sacrifice to God. Dr. Heiser I'm learning so much "anew" from scripture and your books; What does G-d want, Unseen Realm and Angles. Reading them together is so inspiring, educational and challenges me to "the whole truth" not only "the safe". I'm so excited and study steadfastly with a sense of urgency. What's interesting is "the unseen of the scripture" and Father opening my eyes to see. I can only repeat myself - Thank you so much, Thank you so much. Praise Our Father Savior! Thank you for your commitment and dedication to the WORD our Savior. Please continue to teach us. Berakah & Shalom

[@catherinecastle8576]

God's image? We have been given an ego *I Am* and a conscience (knowing right from wrong...and why their is a difference), not given to the animal kingdom. God is Spirit and Truth, and humans are spiritual and can grasp truth (above and beyond mere facts and evidence), not something the animal kingdom can do. Also, God revealed the Masculine in the Old Testament and the Feminine in the New Testament. God calls us His People, Wife, Bride, Body, Servants, Friends, Siblings, Children...and THEY chose to reveal themselves as a kind of family (Father, Son, Spirit). Also, the maturation process goes through 3 stages: dependent (0-12), independent (13-19) and, ideally, after 20, interdependent. God wants us to mature and have an interdependent relationship with Him...and not an inexperienced dependency (prior to the Fall) nor a rebellious independency (after the Fall). Many church goers have not yet transitioned into interdependency and this why so few churchmen know Jesus or Lucifer. They know all about Jesus, often in great theological detail, but, they don't actually know Him. That's fine, it might be part of GOD'S 6000 year plan, unless it's stubbornness or pride or Worldliness or Fleshliness that prevents someone from being emptied in readiness to be filled with the Holy Spirit. Well, that's my thoughts on the matter 😏

[@Elazar40]

The Creator "expresses" man in His Image, so as to get to know Himself through a dual experiential process. "The "heavenly hosts," are simply creative principles (neteru) which guide & define manifestation (form). There is only One God of Light & Truth. There is no other.

[@fandude7]

Word salad. Gobbledygook.

[@Elazar40]

@@fandude7 That your own powers of comprehension are undeveloped, is the problem.

[@fandude7]

@@Elazar40 Continued incoherence will not help.

[@Elazar40]

@@fandude7 I agree. Seek help.

[@fandude7]

@@Elazar40 Cheers.

[@---kx1xc]

i was thinking maybe it meant - Mind/Soul - Spirit - Body 3 in one, like God? idk...

[@keithtaylor3347]

You REALLY have no idea what you're waffling on about! Genesis 1 repeatedly tells us that a plurality of Gods were involved, yet you apologists insist that your deity is so swollen-headed, so conceited that He refers to Himself using the "royal we". This is utter nonsense. There were many Gods involved in the "creation" saga and each went their own way, leaving yours to hold sway over a relatively small area in and around the Middle East. If this were not the case, why was He so paranoid about His people worshipping "other" or "false" gods that He visited the most dire punishments when they stepped out of line? He had His people completely wipe out the Midianites, even though they were innocent of the "crime". The Moabites were the greater threat in this regard, but He ignored them. Were the Midianite women sexier, so that He ordered ALL the males, even the newborns, eliminated to allow His people and Himself to have a share of the virgins? While we are on the subject, you DO realise that while male homosexuality is condemned, SAPPHIC relationships are actually encouraged, don't you?

[@East_Coast_Ghost86]

"Let 'us' create man in our image" -Father, Son, Holy Spirit. What dpes John 1 say? EVERYTHING was made by The Word.

[@barrjensen]

If God created the flesh, then why does it go against the Spirit? Scriptures like the following two make it seem as if the flesh was not God’s plan, but He allowed it for His own works. Galatians 5:17 Galatians 5:19-21

[@tessiemay1789]

QUESTION: Will you please work on your annoying speech habit of saying “sort of” all the time? I try to listen to your podcast but you keep saying “sort of” and it drives me absolutely insane I think I hear 1000 times on the podcast it’s a very irritating speech pattern.

[@rapturebound197]

This idea that the hosts in heaven (whatever they may be) could or can make an "uncoerced decision" unnerves me a touch. Maybe some of you can relate. I can't wait to get to heaven, thanks to the blood of our savior Jesus, and I'm certain most of you feel the same way and especially now in this 21st century as we watch our world slip ever more into what can only be described as insanity! Yikes. But "heaven" itself is still a great unknown..its a mystery. God even tells us “Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, Nor have entered into the heart of man The things which God has prepared for those who love Him.” I don't want the ability to make decisions in heaven. At least not the kinds of decisions Lucifer was evidently allowed to make. I don't even want that ability because I know "me" real well ..and if left to complete "autonomy" in heaven I will screw it up the first minute I'm there. Does this mean I want to be a puppet? Yes. I guess it does. So be it. Better a puppet in heaven ..than a little "god" in hell. I just don't want YHWH's job. I want Him to call all the shots. I want Him to be the "Dad" in heaven. I want Him to be the only cop on the block. I don't want any "committee's" in heaven. I don't want to see any voting boothes in heaven. I don't want to hear any campaign speeches, sales pitches, advertisements, free vacation schemes. No lonely hearts clubs, big box stores, parking lots, places of "higher education". No swoosh's on the shoes, "first class" seating or "penthouse" apartments. No limo's, "beauty" parlors or "Hollywood's". I don't even want to remember any of this..the list goes on and on. "Autonomy" is a very large powerful bus only God can drive. I'll be happy just to be on it. Amen! ✝

[@anitaendinand]

What is "freedom"? I can only imagine mental freedom...we only use 1/3 of our brain...what would happen if God allowed us full use of our brain?

[@mysticmouse7261]

"And God went on to create the man in his image, in God's image he created him; male and female he created them.” Genesis 1 : 27. It doesn't need to "work". Mankind is a type not a plurality. Duh.

[@gloriaiarango]

Dr. Michal Heiser. Please read Mauro Biglino translations of the bible and you will understand what you are trying to convey here, Your explanation is a poor one. The old testament is a book of war not spirituality. Biglino worked for the vatican for ten years translating ancient texts and the bible itself from the original hebrew and the masoteric hebrew, he has the most reasonable translation and all of his speeches are eye opening that s if you dare to understand what the bible really is about.

[@450aday]

the 'God's image' debate is such a contentious issue in the churches today that it has been prophesied that God is going to step in very soon and explain what is meant by the verses describing the creation of man and woman on the first page of the Bible.

[@Isaiah--vj2xu]

Let him come 😂😂

[@StrengthandHonor]

Yes, we (like the angels) were made in GOD's image aka FREE WILL, for we are the only beings in creation (humanity and angels) who have FREE WILL, and that is how we are "like GOD" and made in "GOD's image." Joshua 24:15 John 8:31-32 & 14:6 Psalms 28:7 Strength and Honor!

[@alittle01]

Let US make man in OUR image. That’s like telling my friends, ‘Let’s go get something to eat’ and then I leave them behind and go get something to eat by myself. The logic doesn’t make sense. Which is why theologians have always taken this to mean the Spirit and the Son since all things were created by the Word. I like Michael on many things, but this doesn’t stand.

[@BigYehudah]

Dr. Heiser, where in the Bible do you find that man's will is free in the way you say it does? You are relying on essentially philosophical guessing, which has its roots in a high view of man not present in the Old and New Testaments. The dead sea scrolls are HYPER-predestinarian even more so than the plain meaning of scripture. I completely agree with you on the Divine Council and its unfortunate its deliberately avoided by many because of irrational fears. If you are not trying to imply free will, then I agree with everything you've said fully. The last stand of free will is science, not scripture, and that's only if it pans out with quantum mechanics. it's not okay to infer free will from external sources just because it placates our conscience. Paul's letters are clear and essentially what Arminians have done is dance around the plain meaning of words looking for any hint to over turn them using external sources.

[@tryemc3026]

What a twisted explanation, I cant handle l all this PhD stuff. Keep it simple If you know that your book was originally written I Hebrew, why not read it and learn it in Hebrew. Why put all this burden on you? Anyways, there is no heavily host and nothing of the sort, God is sovereign, he needs no help gen 1 27 clearly says that God created man kind. Gen 1 26, explains what in our image means, " to rule over ... " its objective this will.be the ruler, out of this man, my elected ones, sinless figures, will carry my message to my creation . So, it is evident that this creation has a purpose and it will be a trial, for the free will of this ma , will he and she follow the guidance or not . God already knows the outcome, we dont.

[@JRRodriguez-nu7po]

"Somehow" gets used a lot when the plain simple Truth is being obscured. Let us make followed by Him doing it by Himself is very plain: Him is a plural just as Elohim is a plural. I do agree that the commentaries explanation of how each human is the image of God is wrong. I know the answer because as a physician I know something of neuro anatomy; in particular the results of a no longer used surgery for seizures where the corpus callosum is severed. Each of us has at least 2 distinct persons, right and left hemispheres, which become very apparent in people who have had that surgery. There's much more about human physiology that shatters the myth that a human being is a single person. Each person is a trinity and in that deep cooperation within ourselves which only breaks down in rare instances we are unlike the heavenly host. Commentaries are not written by people who are well versed in modern science so they often fail. BTW I rejected macroevolution as an agnostic more than a year before believing in God. This video's use of "somehow " tries to change the fact that God plural acts as a single being, but is 3 people.

[@joeeoj6187]

I am not a mortal man. I am made in the image of my creator, immortal with power and authority. I am not ready for the next realm, my exodus comes when I learn my real name and am adorned my white garments. Until then I learn and grow spiritually, the seals have began to break, revelation is happening and souls are awakening. The parable of the holy Bible demonstrates this realm, truths mixed with lies to control and confine, 2 gods battle for the souls of man. Know who rules this realm, that ruler is confined to law. Understand the law and you’ll understand yourself. We are gods.

[@supersmart671]

vice regents

[@FBCTrona]

Read the verses again. God says let’s make men in “Our image” and then says created them in the “image of God” not in the image of hosts. This teaching is not faithful to the literal interpretation of Scripture. The Bible can not adequately be interpreted without a belief in the Trinity.

[@krzysztofciuba271]

A self-confused "teacher" try to teach ...the confused as there is no Library with plenty Commentaries like for example New Jeremiah Commentary with the Elite Biblical Scholars, ex.R.E.Brown, J.Fitzmayer,etc. I doubt he has ever learned the basics of (divine) St.Aristotle logic

[@jcr65566]

We don't have a soul. We are an imortal soul and spirit who, for a short while, are in control of a human body. When our body dies, we are still soul and spirit.

[@Los_Servants]

He doesn't believe in evolution? We connected at some point. God didn't create Adam and Eve. When God created us in Genesis it is speaking of attributes. A godly way.

[@lonnierandall7882]

It is much simpler than that. The "us" and "our" in Genesis 1:26 are in these scriptures. Joh 1:1 ¶ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. Heb 1:1 ¶ God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; 3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. 10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: 11 They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; 12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail. Heb 3:4 For every house is builded by some man; but he that built all things is God. Who built or made all things? Joh 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

[@kelslo74]

When you think you got it figured out,you don't. God's ways are not our ways. Consider different things but stick to what works; Gods way.

[@brando3342]

You don't need to believe the "us" in that verse or the "our" or any of those terms mean "the angels" in order to believe we were given free will by God and that is what it means to be "made in his image". I would also add the ability to be rational and logical as part of "his image" in us. Also, true love is only possible through free agents. Therefore, if we did not have free will, we would not be able to have genuine love. I believe those things and also that the "us" and "our" is speaking about the Trinity; Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

[@brenosantana1458]

See the opinion of Jesus about who is God.

[@StevenCroft04]

Nope. God is a singular individual.

[@brando3342]

Breno Santana They worshipped Jesus as God and even called him God. He never denied it or refused worship. The Jews literally wanted him dead for that very claim. Jesus is God. The Father is God and the Holy Spirit is God.

[@brenosantana1458]

@@brando3342 ser the Greek translated as worship

[@JSL-t4j]

God was speaking to Christ n the holy spirit. Angels do not look like God they do not hv his image they are creatures, they are more like animals than us but we are like him. Yes angels can take on the form of a men but they dnt look like men only 1 group of angels hv the face of men the Cherubims

[@GatheringJacob]

Why Michael Heiser with all his intelligence can say we, mankind, are his agents in the earth, and not understand tha Jesus is that ultimate representative as the second Adam and first born from the dead. NOT God the son, but son of God!

[@g.mano.1320]

There is no need to interpret that chapter. Read it as it's originally written. The Elohim were a moltitude of individuals. Period. And they did made human kind in their likeness WITH their image. Sounds like they instilled their image into our ancestor enhancing it in order to develop human kind.

[@ronkebarber6238]

Jesus Christ is the Image of the invisible God. Adam was made in this image, but lost it at the fall and he begat children in his own fallen image as we are now Genesis 5:3. This fallen image will be restored in Christ Jesus as we are changed as we go meet Him in the air. Until then, everyone who is not saved is a walking dead. That is why we must tell all about the gospel of grace that bought them.

[@wmritchey1101]

I see a big bunch of fodder for the fire here. What's your point? God wasn't alone in the beginning? Granted but don't hang your hat on one hook. 2 ir 3 hooks are better if you know what I am saying

[@everygoodthing8506]

I do concur on the existence of a "divine council" but I resist the idea that Gen 1:27 is God addressing the council. That makes zero sense.

[@marshallmajor4971]

God makes it possible for us to love him by allowing us to choose to.

[@happierabroad]

If we are made in God's image doesn't that mean we can become Gods ourselves, since sons can grow up to be fathers? Doesn't that mean the New Agers have a point about Apotheosis? It's basic logic right? Just because it's blasphemy doesn't mean it's not true. Maybe traditional Christian doctrine is wrong?

[@ladosdominik1506]

This is just nonsense. There are a multitude of verses disproving it.

[@lw216316]

Well, the host may do their work in heaven but they are very involved in work on earth also. The Bible is filled with angels doing work for God on earth.

[@joshuamora5753]

This question is based on a presumption a presumption that seems to be wrong want to read Genesis 5:3 you would know Adam and Eve were created in the likeness and image of God but after the fall it states that Seth was born in the image of man from this point on we are all born in the image of man it isn't until we are saved sealed with the holy Spirit that we have the image of God return to us living in US showing us the truth in the way so to assume that you were made in the image of God is to assume rather highly of oneself we are in a fallen state and then this fallen state there is no one created in the image of God when you correct you're view of scripture you will begin to understand the condition of man and why we need a savior

[@brittanycrow7185]

We are spirits and children of God the spirit and soul are diffrent both spiritual brings we are not animals

[@beppiek]

MY EYES ARE OLD SO DONT BE OFFENDED BY MY CAPS JUST GOING BY THE TITLE GOD GAVE ME AN ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT IT IS IM GOING TO LAY IT OUT RIGHT NOW BEFORE I WATCH THIS VIDEO TONIGHT I WANT TO TEST THE VERY THING THAT DIED IN EDEN THE VERY THING CREATED IN THEIR IMAGE AND IN THEIR LIKENESS IS THE SPIRIT GOD IS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN AWAKEN IT AND WHEN HE DOES YOU WILL BE DRAWN TO HIS SON JESUS FOR FORGIVENESS (JN6:44)

[@YahushasDisciple]

Sure wish these were longer. I’d pay for it too!

[@FelonyVideos]

Allow me to propose this musing: God created us in his image. This does not mean that he has 10 fingers and 10 toes. What it perhaps means is that those traits that all humans share are his traits. No fingers. No toes. No arms. No legs. Not smart. Not dumb. Go on to list all the manifold things that every single human being does not share. Not man. Not woman. No free will. All free will. Not white. Not black. Not weak. Not powerful. What you are left with is still amazing. Clearly God is infinitely powerful by our standards and measures, but by his own measure, perhaps he has flaws? He loves. He hates. He judges. He forgives. He creates imperfect beings, in his image. Just a thought. Perhaps you can expand on this idea/concept.

[@qwerty-so6ml]

Genesis 1 is ELOHIM (Lucifer and the fallen angels). They made this realm. They made man in their image. Man is an idol, a trap to hunt angels. Genesis 2:7 the Lord God forms His representative in their system. One Gospel: Gospel (GOOD ANGEL) of Reconciliation. Jesus Christ came into THEIR kingdom to reconcile fallen angels unto Himself. We are the fallen angels (ELOHIM) kept in DNA chains of darkness. If you do not confess being a fallen angel in Lucifer's kingdom, then you are an unbeliever. Unbeliever = those that claim to be made in the image of ELOHIM(gods). REPENT FALLEN ANGELS.

[@Yehshlynn]

What it means if u was created in God image. it means your a God and the Son of God. anybody that is your seed is call the sons of God.

[@themusicman669]

It cannot be referring to the divine counsel, due to the fact that humans were not created in the image of the Divine Council.

[@joerivera6011]

Fantastic teaching, you can't find this in traditional church why?🤔 Mr. Heiser, the mega church preachers having millions of dollars a year with mansions, private jets isn't this in a way prohibited in the Bible to what Jesus taught? I mean money to live on I understand but $40 mil a year and all that material stuff what are your thoughts on this? Thank you! Enjoy your teachings it's opened a whole new way of understanding the scriptures. 🙏🏼😃

[@mes147]

The word of God say that the love of money is the root of all evil, and it is nearly impossible to enter the Kingdom of God , also as you may know Bro Joe, that with God all things are possible , even for a camel to walk through the eye of a needle! In other words Bro, a rich mad can be saved, I just hope that his saving( faith) of Salvation is not in his riches and his # 1 true love is Jesus Christ. Other wise his faith is in vain. Think well and be well, you and yours, in Jesus wonderful name. Lord Bless. B.I.C.

[@Watchingtheparadegoby]

Dont blame the TV Evangelists, their greed is only realized through the greedy efforts of people like you and I. They get rich playing on the ignorance and presumption of people who actually want the same things for themselves. They got their monies worth.