What Does It Take To Get Your Instrument Rating | FAA Requirements

[@morganhornung9794]

Perfect timing! Starting my IFR training next month and just started studying for the written!

[@flywiththeguys]

Awesome! Good luck on your training!

[@Ezel21love]

Good luck

[@sami10z]

Me as well. Are you using gleim?

[@morganhornung9794]

Sami no, I'm using sheppard!

[@felixikotun273]

Awesome... all the best

[@reyesben]

good video. A lot of info covered in a short time. It's hard to find aviation videos that are only 5 min. long. most are 20+ minutes which is as long as a sitcom episode. I enjoy short and sweet.

[@flywiththeguys]

Thanks for that. I do have one thats longer, but it needed to be. It's on how to talk to ATC. its about 16 minutes.

[@reyesben]

Fly With The Guys no it’s good to make them as long as they need to be. I just love to find shorter ones when I don’t have time for one that is 20+ minutes. That’s actually why I clicked your video

[@zimmerman630]

Costs for me so far: Private - 17k IR - 13k Commercial - 26k Just started CFI training. Some numbers for your reference, good luck.

[@flywiththeguys]

I appreciate those numbers. I'm digging into the Instrument Rating costs right now. Are you doing this 61 or 141?

[@zimmerman630]

@@flywiththeguys Part 141

[@fobryan961]

my private is 25k :( in a cirrus sr20

[@koz6670]

whats a good online ground school for instrument

[@rcbif101]

Yikes. Gotta love Ohio. I have less than 8k in private glider and ASEL. Granted one is with a club, and the other original C-150's - no fancy glass stuff.

[@davidgrier403]

Just completed 20 hrs of sim time. Next up 18 more hours in the Cherokee or Skyhawk. The sim saved me about $4k.

[@flywiththeguys]

Nice. I'm considering buying a simulator and renting it out.

[@jamesshepard7544]

Yep. Bought sim equipment specifically for this.

[@Renegadeproject]

Thank you for the information

[@matrixnoteboom]

If I use a certified sim to complete 20 hrs of Xc time, do I need to have an instructor with me?

[@19ij]

Thank you very much for this video. I already have B1/B2 visa to USA and this december i hope to start my education as i pilot in USA.

[@sulaimanalmufargi9705]

Be carfull B1 B2 dose not allow you to study flying in US. You need to apply for student visa M1

[@FWTG]

Wow! Great video. Super informative and your backdrop looks nice.

[@flywiththeguys]

Thank you! Just made a more permanent backdrop. We really like it.

[@jorisgroen1196]

Great video! It helps me very much to understand, what instrument reating means! It is a lut of stuf to do, but you have to do't! Otherrwise you dont make't to bé succesed your PPL!

[@bernardanderson7569]

I'm starting to finally finish up on my online Ground school

[@flywiththeguys]

GREAT! Just for my information, are you doing that during training or before?

[@enryunto8087]

@@flywiththeguys Which one is better?

[@ttiparis8205]

I’m on training commercial stage at KDVT as an international student! Nice to see you. :)

[@flywiththeguys]

Awesome! Westwind or AeroGuard?

[@ttiparis8205]

Fly With The Guys Westwind! maybe we might have met in the past. hope you enjoy flying and have a safe flight.

[@JustPlaneSilly]

I clicked for the Grumman in the thumbnail. Now I'm going to get off my butt and go work on my IR.

[@flywiththeguys]

Is that what you were doing when you hit some wake turbulence?

[@Robb-jf7vg]

Even flying night VFR on dark moonless lights over sparsely seattled rural country would REQUIRE the pilot to be able to control the plane entirely by referring to his instrument. And this fact has caused many accidents. I'd recommend about 20 hours of Night-Dual and another 20 hours of Instrument Training before flying at night under such conditions.

[@flywiththeguys]

Dark night flying is about as close to IFR you're going to get if you live in an area like mine.

[@aircraftmaintenancengineer]

Amazing video , keep up the great work 👍

[@The_real_Dr_mysterious]

So a total of 80 hours of flight time including 40 hours of PPL VFR and 40 hours of IFR

[@flywiththeguys]

You need 50 total hours of qualified VFR XC time. Qualified XC time is distances over 50KM. You gain some of this during your private training. THEN you need 40 of hood time. You can use some of your 40 hours of instrument training to make up the 50 hour requirement though. Like go get 40, you'll easily make up the 10.

[@migueldana9561]

The first explanation in KZbin

[@flywiththeguys]

I know right! I love answering the questions no one has yet.

[@ellonysman]

What does it take? LOL, $$$$$. Youll need to rob Walter Whites storage locker lol

[@flywiththeguys]

Yea. Just to qualify to get your instrument costs quite a bit. Still obtainable though. Going to do a video on how to fund it soon.

[@FLEXCopMNPD]

You need the 50hrs cross country if you train under part 61. If you fly under part 141 that 50 hr requirement is not there. There are other differences between part 61 and part 141. Great video but you should have started out about the two different standards depending on what training track you go down. Keep up the great work.

[@coolhari2000]

Flying with Murph Exactly what I was thinking.

[@flywiththeguys]

Thanks for explaining the difference. You're right though, I could have made that a bit more clear. But, that's why I called out the requirements in 61.65 in the beginning, to make sure people knew these were the requirements under part 61. Thanks for the comment and I'll add something to the description to clear that up.

[@FLEXCopMNPD]

Fly With The Guys yes, but better to assume people don’t know there is a difference between or even that there are two “parts”, 61 and 141 they can choose. Love your content. :)

[@OzyOzySM]

And that's ALoooot ! No thanks

[@rickthemagicguy6075]

I enjoy you videos. You have great energy, thorough and keep it brief.

[@flywiththeguys]

That’s our goal! Thanks for watching.

[@michelleoceguera1472]

Just got my PPL yesterday, onto the next 🤘🏻

[@flywiththeguys]

Well CONGRADULATIONS! Where's your first flight going to be to?

[@atxpilot]

Do those 50 PIC XC hours NEED to be under IFR conditions?

[@flywiththeguys]

No. Just over 50NM XC to count towards the rating.

[@bernardanderson7569]

Thanks for the heads up

[@prity777]

His stare oO ....

[@flywiththeguys]

Yea.... this video was really early on. We're a lot more comfortable on the camera now. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZK4pneabd2Slck

[@jonvalor7633]

The check list... where is the checklist? 😬My DPE loved your checklist along with my tabbed logbook for my PPL yesterday.

[@flywiththeguys]

Which checklist?! I have the PPL one and a Checklist for the Checkride. How’d the checkride go BTW?

[@GabeRave]

The English is a real requirement! I know a private pilot who failed their IR checkride because of this.

[@flywiththeguys]

I trained in a area dominated by international students. The language barrier is a real thing. A lot of them were unable to go off script. I even heard one order a food truck after landing. I get it though, and it's tough. I would hate to be learning a language that's required for my profession WHILE I'M IN TRANING for that profession.

[@ismailch2553]

Hello sir I’m inspired by you Can you please tell Is instrumental training is included during commercial pilot training program Or instrumental trainings has to be done individually by other cost ? Please reply Thank you

[@flywiththeguys]

The second one. It’s it’s own rating and cost.

[@JuliusG73]

I've not known anyone who needed anywhere near 40 hours of dual instruction time. The maximum I've seen is about 23.

[@jimbiller9682]

Julius Goth well, I am one that needs lots more, sitting at about 25hrs and no where near heck ride ready.

[@chrisc161]

Thanks starting next week.

[@flywiththeguys]

Awesome! Good luck!

[@Dana_Bellamy]

Great video! Very informative. Thank you!

[@flywiththeguys]

Glad it was helpful!

[@mikeabc5355]

It takes money lots of money. :)

[@flywiththeguys]

Money is the real reason planes fly....

[@mikeabc5355]

@@flywiththeguys Yes but in 1970 I rented C150 for $14 wet check the price today.

[@ForestxWalker06]

How do you get PIC hours ? I’ve read the rules for it and it was clear as mud.

[@flywiththeguys]

This will hopefully help - www.aopa.org/training-and-safety/learn-to-fly/old-pages/legacy-pages/aviation-subject-report-logging-pilot-in-command-pic-time

[@adidasgamer5534]

Thank you very much indeed i have all understood as I'm preparing my CPL current. Keep uploading more to help for the next generations

[@flywiththeguys]

Thank you, I will for sure.

[@thegods2622]

Keep up the good work. Hope you enjoyed that rain we got what Wednesday

[@flywiththeguys]

We'll keep moving on things. We love making these. The rain was nice! The thunderstorm was fun too!

[@thegods2622]

@@flywiththeguys yes I live out in laveen out in south Phoenix and it down poured woke me up for abit.

[@nikostavros2722]

Are there any night time requirements for your instrument training?

[@flywiththeguys]

Not that I'm aware of.

[@angrytomasz]

Cool. I'm gonna go fly MSFS2020 now cause you can't ALT+F4 if something goes wrong irl.

[@flywiththeguys]

So true. And I'm so glad it still works in FS2020.

[@angrytomasz]

@@flywiththeguys I mean honestly it's great for the most part but it has some really big glaring issues. I can't fly for real cause I'm legally blind so having a simulator is really nice. I could probably still Landon a320 or a 737 if I needed to lol. I watched your video because I wanted to see what it would take.

[@dsanchez8]

So basically 40 hrs with another person … instructor or friend with a pilot license? And 50 hrs solo? Or are those 50 hrs also with someone….total 90 hrs?

[@flywiththeguys]

No, it's 40 hours total hood time that needs to include those items. You only need the instructor for a portion of it, but most students end up needed their instructor for the full 40. BUT, you need 50 hours CX to qualify as well. Those usually come naturally over time or you build time to get them. Some 141 flight schools can help you get it in less.

[@dsanchez8]

@@flywiththeguys got it…thanks

[@Ali-iq4bb]

Any suggestions for flight simulators I can use at home?

[@flywiththeguys]

XPlane 11 is fairly good for Instrument stuff. It's what I'm working with right now.

[@taylorleblanc7406]

Thanks, great Video. Looking forward to starting towards my IFR rating.

[@flywiththeguys]

Best of luck! I hear its a hard one. I haven't done it myself yet. Maybe next year.

[@bryang3205]

Great video Carl!

[@flywiththeguys]

Thank you Bryan. It was a fun one to make. And now, I know what to expect....ish.

[@FreedomFlight1]

Nice job.

[@flywiththeguys]

Thanks!

[@makkavalley9144]

Thank you

[@flywiththeguys]

You're welcome

[@michaelz5633]

may I ask does the cross country time in previous PPL and CPL training count ?

[@flywiththeguys]

My understanding is XC time accumulated at any time counts, as long as the destination airport is over 50NM away. Anything shorter is not valid towards the 50 Hour requirement.

[@michaelz5633]

@@flywiththeguys is 50NM XC ? my flight school document says XC must be over 150NM

[@flywiththeguys]

@@michaelz5633 For the Instrument rating, anything over 50NM qualifies. I'm not sure where they get the 150 from, unless they are talking about the 150 total NM solo XC for the Private Pilot Certificate.

[@Ezel21love]

Really helpful.

[@flywiththeguys]

Thank you!

[@stealhty1]

And about $8000 on hand

[@flywiththeguys]

We've got that video in the works....

[@bodhisilberling8763]

Great vid!

[@flywiththeguys]

Thank you!

[@deepilot3743]

3000.00 dollars?

[@flywiththeguys]

More. =( But I'll be making that video in the future!

[@JoeCnNd]

I wish sport pilots could get it.

[@flywiththeguys]

Would be nice... but i'm not sure light sport aircraft can fly IFR. Would need to check that out.

[@JoeCnNd]

@@flywiththeguys nah sport pilots can't get an instrumental is what I mean.

[@flywiththeguys]

@@JoeCnNd AH. Thats what I thought. Honestly, I've been considering a light sport for a personal airplane. Not being able to do IFR in one makes sense though.

[@sting1111]

Ok so why is there a pilot shortage. I I completed my private at $10,000. Now you need 50hrs cross country for IFR rating on top of instructor etc. The cost is too damn high.

[@flywiththeguys]

It really depends on your goals. If you jump from rating to rating, you're going to blow through money. If you work through things slow and steady, it'll lesson the blow. I fly for recreational so....

[@rickhess8996]

Seems to me, if you wanted to fly for an airline going part 141 and treating it like a high school graduate off to college is the way to go. They drop $100 grand on a Bachelor degree and then live in moms basement. At least with a $100K of flight school you know you can get a job.

[@PARTner91]

IFR rating is my next adventure. Great timing! I’d love to see more IFR content from you. I live and fly out of 18AZ, hope to bump into ya someday.

[@flywiththeguys]

Hi Steve! Believe it or not, I've landed at 18AZ. Do you live on the airport, or just fly out of there?

[@PARTner91]

As of next week, I’ll live there 👍🏻

[@flywiththeguys]

Awesome! We'll have to meet up! This isn't a selfish plug to land at 18AZ again.... Maybe. LOL

[@koz6670]

whats a good online ground school for instrument?

[@flywiththeguys]

Mumph... Thats a hard question for me to answer. You're going to have to research that one on your own.