What Does Manifesto Reveal About Walmart Shooter? | Andre Bing Case Analysis

[@user-mn3ez2kl3v]

Andre’s coworkers: He was hostile, aggressive, unreasonable, unstable, petty, difficult, mean, paranoid, grumpy, condescending, and a loner… nobody particularly liked Andre and everyone believed that something was wrong with him. Andre did not have good communication skills. When he was communicating, he was antagonistic and made a number of disturbing statements. On occasion others would make fun of Andre… Chesapeake Walmart Upper Management: He’s got supervisor written all over him.

[@luminouscali]

It probably literally came down to he is 1. Punctual 2. Reliable 3. Few outside commitments 4. Willing to work at night. Those 4 qualities are rare.

[@peaceseeker9927]

@@luminouscali - It's one thing to hire someone based on certain traits, but once there is feedback from multiple people that a person seems unstable there needs to be action taken to evaluate the person's mental state. Incompetent management got these people murdered. With the endless mass shootings happening these days, what fool would think they're group could never be a target.

[@betrayedbaeuchiha175]

Ikr!!! Wtf were they thinking 👎🏽

[@Jo0pishere]

Once again do not make fun of others if they are not actively giving it back. Plotting your downfall, this is why I say hey to everybody in the morning or upon first greeting.

[@vysheslavuzumati1269]

I worked for the Walmart distribution center as a temporary worker for a third party and had a supervisor fitting that exact description, that amount of shit I saw him get away with was unbelievable he would literally come in your truck and heckle you and snatch boxes out of your hand.

[@bonez2424]

I work at Home Depot, and I try to show everyone I work with the respect I would want. You never know what an individual is going through and what it would take to push them over the edge. Just be a good person and realize the signs when you see them.

[@juneyshu6197]

Hes a severely mentally ill person. Talking did not work.

[@Jessica-iq6kj]

@@cht2162 great quote!!

[@kimchin7687]

some people pick on those they feel they can target or get away with their condescending and inconsiderate behavior. My life was also spared in a similar incident, but I was taught to always do the right thing and treat people right and never judge a book by its cover, and everyone is equal just some are just a bit more fortunate than others,

[@Mr.IhaveTime]

Facts

[@anonymousstrangeness7348]

@@kimchin7687 Exactly !!

[@lisaalane7694]

Don't think it's just Walmart. I worked 40 years in Healthcare. One of the meanest women I ever dealt with, somehow became their star employee. I'd been a nurse for 30 years when she graced the world by also graduating from nursing school. I'm sure financially she delivers for them, but the cost to people who had to deal with her is to me grevious. Especially, when you are in an industry that is supposed to care for people.

[@lyndahadley2352]

I'm a nurse also, and unfortunately, I know that kind of nurse. Thank you for your comment. I'm glad there are other people who are not fooled.

[@Johnny-sj9sj]

Over here 🇬🇧 we have a nurse on trial for the multiple murder of babies in a postnatal ward. Then we had nurse Beverley Allitt, serving a life sentence for the same thing. There is no faction of the population anywhere in the world that is not capable of the most heinous acts and behaviour, and I find it utterly depressing that the most caring of people: nurses, include such psychotics and psychopaths within their ranks. Such people are often difficult to identify, especially those with Munchhausen's by Proxy syndrome. My heart goes out to you.

[@lisaalane7694]

Let me just say this for you who are nurses and understand the significance of this. She would get up in the middle of reporting off on patients and leave. Because your info on patients was of no interest to her. But her career as someone who has a "passion for great patient care" has skyrocketed. If you hear that phrase "passion for great patient care" with zero interest in doing it yourself, just know this person should never be incharge of anybody.

[@lyndahadley2352]

@@lisaalane7694 Usually that kind of nurse spends a lot of her time sucking up to the DON, and what's really irritating is that so many directors and administrators fall for for this and favor this kind of employee. I've seen it time and time again.

[@terryKessler42719]

I’ve been an RN for over 40 years and have known many of these nurses. They care nothing for the patients and are only interested in furthering themselves. I’ve noticed that many of them wish to work in the off shifts as in afternoons or night shift. They have more of a chance to be supervisors or managers. One particular nurse was “best” friends with the director of nursing and had her pick of her favorite unit and shift. Once I became a nurse practitioner, I left hospital nursing for good. It’s a dog eat dog environment and the new nurses are picked on quickly. I taught classes for the new hires and their stories of disappointment could break your heart. We need good nurses and should treat them like superstars.

[@standupp698]

Don't depend on your company to keep you safe. When you notice signs that a person is dangerous just walk away. The job isn't worth it.

[@fragrancememoir2350]

Absolutely

[@dommyyandfriendss]

1000%

[@crand20033]

"Just walk away" Ha! What if the person won't let you walk away? Fight ensues.

[@NobodiesFan]

Then your employer will have a negative outlook on you lol. All cause you want to be safe.

[@bootsierobicheaux7124]

Don't depend on company or even a crowd to keep you safe just ask Shanquella. Well, you can't.

[@DearestDeaz]

My cousin was a survivor of his attack and had been complaining about this man for the past couple of months. He did in fact have targets. He hunted my cousin down and shot him 3 different times. He was a terror on the night shift and was not of sound mind. A lot of people have speculated that he was a victim of bullying. Andre WAS the bully. If he was a victim at all he was the victim of mental health issues.

[@azulgaia7782]

Thanks for this info. So sorry your cousin was not listened to.

[@zackeryhill3084]

Seems to be a common misconception with mass shooters dating all the way back to Columbine. I think it’s time for people to realize the shooter is the bully himself, more often than not.

[@nikkij4873]

Do you know if the Reddit thread is true, that his phone got hacked exposing the Pokémon porn on his phone and accused him of being a pedof1l3?

[@stuart5811]

The coworkers said he was to be avoided. Could Walmart be liable for not providing a safe work place?

[@DearestDeaz]

@@stuart5811 there are many of his coworkers that are seeking counsel. Walmart will likely settle for a few 100k up to a mil

[@tommylarson7219]

Andre was extremely paranoid…..and he became a ticking time bomb, once he purchased the 9 mil handgun. There’s no doubt he debated making that purchase for several years. We can all do better with people we sense are walking the line of sanity. Andre even stated in his death note that he wished he could start his life over, and making that statement alone, proves he knew all along how his life would end. Andre felt he was a failure and obviously hated his life as he felt no joy, and had nothing to look forward to. There are a million Andre’s out in the world and we all know it doesn’t take a lot to issue a compliment or lend a listening ear. While many spend their time breaking down someones spirit, we would have a much better world, if we built eachother up.

[@jacquelinewilliams5661]

I think that work place bullying is rampant and those co- workers should respect one another. Maybe if people stopped making someone in a work setting then with insight into a worker being isolated these things could be curtailed and the guy getting not only help but support as well. People are so mean but it's a sign of the times we live in

[@cinemathequerouge317]

@@jacquelinewilliams5661 Agreed. For the most part, if people minded their own business, a lot of this could be avoided. I have worked those jobs & the amount of catty behaviour & snitching is out of control. I feel the need to talk to a shrink just THINKING about those jobs.

[@scarletohara6743]

@@cinemathequerouge317 It's not only those jobs, it's all jobs. I worked in a large, prestigious organisation where one colleague, very smart and educated, had a fragile personality. I, along with one other person, went out of my way to talk to her, sit with her at breaks, etc. It wasn't a sacrifice because she had good qualities along with her emotional fragility. I left the organisation and the year after she had a nervous breakdown. I'm pretty sure it's because she lost my advocacy. I would defend her when other employees would make fun of her. That's what you should do when people are dissing someone. Workplaces at all levels are snakepits of meanness that is mostly unchecked. I'd say the strong survive, and they do, but not without some cost to their health and happiness too.

[@scottricci5063]

@@scarletohara6743 nah, we just need more guns in the workplace. If just one of them had been armed, he could of been taken out before he killed so many.

[@whalesong999]

@@scottricci5063 That can be only a supposition. That, too, is a fabrication of what might be options.

[@cierrakat22]

It's so crazy because I worked at Walmart and they always had me watching that active shooting video and he literally had all the traits to warn someone about

[@NobodiesFan]

"always had me watching that active shooting video" What?

[@cierrakat22]

@@NobodiesFan there's an active shooting video at Walmart to prepare incase an active shooting happens.

[@TheBlackAztec3]

@@cierrakat22 yea lmao they just had us watch it the other day too

[@TheBlackAztec3]

@@cierrakat22 They definitely saw the signs, but were probably to caught up with picking on him.

[@cierrakat22]

@@TheBlackAztec3 yep and that's why you have to take that behavior seriously. I will never make fun of someone mental health, idk how they found that funny when he clearly needed help

[@cinemathequerouge317]

The fact this kind of tragedy doesn't happen daily is what truly amazes me. I can never understand how some thoroughly unlikable people rise to management positions. I have worked under such people and they are never very talented either, so the whole thing is perplexing. Working retail should come with free mental health care. The job is stressful & unrewarding. The customers can be rude, condescending & impatient. Management are usually buffoons. Some co-workers can be catty & extremely petty. The few cool people (there almost always are a few) usually never rise in the company & often quit or get fired. Great analysis.

[@simonw1313]

I worked in retail for several years and mean arrogant entitled and manipulative people seemed to be the ones who rose in the hierarchy and had power over other employees. The only people they showed consideration and respect for, at least superficially, were those above them in the hierarchy. The values that are recognised as a managerial or supervisory in retail (and probably other sectors) are not ones that employees in general find attractive. Senior management seem to think that ordinary employees are best managed and "motivated" with a mixture of fear and meanness.

[@katfayegarrett3872]

💯💯

[@imtired6104]

Sadly, some people seem to get promoted to a position where they will do the least damage. Where I work, the few horrible supervisors get moved to project manager after making the people they managed hate them and the job in general. But, there has to be a clear paper trail on the manager's antics before they get sent to supervisor retirement.

[@halomorningstar967]

It's true the bigger stores especially allow and enable terrible management behavior. And then you end up with such a toxic atmosphere that employees end up sick or having mental health crises. It's easy to forget how workplaces like that can feel so HUGE when you're inside of it. The drama and the pressure feels like the size of the whole world. For people with social difficulties, anxiety, and other mental health "variations", what looks like a small situation from the outside can actually be way too much to handle when there is no help from higher ups or HR.

[@juneyshu6197]

Insane persons!

[@Ruby0465]

My opinion is to leave people alone. Stop bullying, you never know what someone is going through. A lot of people have absolutely NOTHING to lose.

[@BetaBuxDelux]

I kind of agree with this. Wish someone could have helped him.

[@chuckrobinson599]

This guy imagined he was being bullied. He was the manager, management can't be bullied, they're the ones with the power. You brainwashed people are going to be the end of liberty

[@Ruby0465]

@@BetaBuxDelux indeed

[@Chill-mm4pn]

I mean it's not hard to just to leave people alone. I generally just say hi and do my job.

[@russmode]

Or ask them if they are ok, say if they ever need to talk you are there. Then make sure any follow up is respectfully confidential, unless detrimental to others.

[@lalalooah]

Lived in Chesapeake for 3 years, was shopping in Greenbrier a week before this happened, across the street from the Walmart. So surreal. You never know when or where you'll encounter someone capable of something like this. Thanks for covering Dr. Grande.

[@St.CrimsonTweets]

I know exactly what you mean, I do lawncare for a few hiuses across the street from his home. For over 2 years I saw this guy nearly every week. You just never know.

[@KeepinItReal632]

I worked with a guy once that was weird and a little off. He started to harass me. Just doing little things to annoy me mostly but it was also scary because he presented a lot like this guy Andre. I said to a coworker, I don’t wanna report him because he seems like the type of guy that would come to work and shoot up the place. This was back in 2001 when we still said “going postal” since postal workers kept coming back and shooting up the post office. My coworker was like you have to report him. So I did. They did nothing and the harassment got worse. So I left. I’m pretty good at reading people and if you make me feel uncomfortable, I’ll just leave. I’ve seen enough of these in my lifetime to know you can never really know what a person will do, until they do it. My motto: Be kind to everyone, don’t ruffle any feathers. Run, Forrest, run when you get the heeby geebies. Praying for the families and may those who passed rest in peace 🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@Mike-gc2hm]

Bro walmart hires anyone and mostly major weirdos and most of the management are LGBTQ and they are really off the deep end

[@carlitosortiz2870]

😂I like your style

[@BetaBuxDelux]

“Be nice to psychos” - note to self. Actually, some kindness in all directions might have gone a long way. Or was he too detached from reality for kindness to have much of a result?

[@wearelegion1163]

I worked with a dude like Bing & I was nice to him. He told me how much he hated his boss & our department head. When he got fired for lying on his resume (discovered during a promotion review), he was also kicked out of his PhD program for the same reasons. So, next day he sends me an email with threats against our bosses. I took it to the department head & campus security. He knew it was me who told on him & I looked over my shoulder for a long time. A year or so after all this, I read he was arrested for impersonating an attorney & representing people in court.

[@BetaBuxDelux]

@@wearelegion1163 Glad you are okay.

[@nonprogrediestregredi1711]

@@wearelegion1163 Yikes, that's scary. I'm glad you are doing alright.

[@ioanaanaoi8232]

Yes, be nice to psychos. Yet not too close. I've seen lots of tragedies like this one and in lots of them the bullying done by people around a psycho is downplayed or totally ignored. Lots of these tragedies could have been prevented if it wasn't for the bullies to do their self gratifying action and most of them lost their life I feel sorry for the innocent victims that got in the cross-fire

[@8bert9]

I agree. Some co-workers can be very cruel, judgmental, and vindictive themselves. I am not justifying this at all, just stating reality.

[@moonlyteshadow]

Can you talk about Shanquella Robinson case that’s going on? She was left dead in Mexico after being beaten by her own “friends”.

[@T_Time_]

Not enough information known about the possible suspects.

[@kristis4147]

She even paid for her friends to go on that trip. They repaid her by not helping but recorded her get beat to death. They should also be help accountable

[@moonlyteshadow]

@The BootyBandit by your own friends who you went on a trip with? No. There is footage of her friends beating her while she was naked in their hotel room. That’s not your regular “Mexican murder” story

[@tonyquinlan7341]

I think the were jealous of her,and definitely not her friends.

[@MatuzaMortgages]

That was just unbelievable... And they left her!!!!! OMG!!!!!!

[@intuitivelogic5159]

I had a bipolar episode with psychotic symptoms. I also felt like people were behaving similarly to how he describes , more specifically I though people were trying to hypnotize and control me with subtle gestures , like a secret technique to control people . I can image how paranoia can lead to drastic measures, thankfully I am better now !

[@JDBlueprint]

I totally get it. I have bipolar and psychosis too. I'm happy that you're better now 🙂

[@bthomson]

It is an added weight to life suffering with these feelings. I hope both of you have a shoulder to lean on. 💐

[@skipanardoross6805]

@@candyorange266 That is very interesting.

[@mljohnson7192]

I had a psychotic manic episode recently that was actually nothing but wonderful. It was like living in a fantasy

[@sdsurfgirl60]

I relate. After a miscarriage I dealt with postpartum depression and felt like women with newborns were purposely ignoring my pain and showing off that they had a baby. I knew on some level that I was very wrong for thinking that but it didn't stop me from feeling that way.

[@kellysmith8269]

I’ve seen people in the workplace gang up on somebody similar to this. I quit, because the group was so catty and included management.

[@thomasswafford250]

So often management does nothing. I have seen several cases like that.

[@globes179]

As soon as this case came to light, I was shouting "vulnerable narcissist." It's enlightening to hear Dr. Grande explain how that's only a part of it. First hits of psychosis are scary. I hope society finds a way to identify and better take care of people in this position.

[@craeddock]

Vulnerable narcissist personality types are often chosen by HR for those positions through extensive online surveys before hire or in CBTs later. I wouldn't blame the vulnerable narcissist for their exploitation of their maladaptive behaviors.

[@marcjohn9404]

I always feel as though people like Andre are a life changing experience, one that makes them realize that they're wrong about everything, away from breaking through and becoming a viable human being. I feel like I was on a similar path, being super negative at some point in my life and I resented a lot of people for stupid reasons, but somewhere along the line I learned how to take those thoughts, acknowledge them, question them briefly, and then let go. Through this, I realized that I'm wrong a lot, and that a lot of things that I've blamed on other people, are actually just my fault. Some people reject that because it feels like failure, but you have to fail to learn and learn to improve. 🤷‍♂️

[@autumxxleaves4186]

Respect 🫡

[@jesseporter3397]

Dude I know what you mean!!!! Feels like all you need are the right words to show the person how much easier and better life can be if they cut the shit

[@GnomePilledGoblin]

I completely agree and went downcthe same road Mental health is literally everything in this world

[@NikkiiPope]

@t Interesting you chose this comment to respond with a no accountability statement. Maybe you should read it again.

[@NobodiesFan]

It's hard to find the light when yours has been put out. Being a "good" person can be exhausting as hell.

[@everlastinglife5978]

I know people with Schizophrenia. None of them are bad people but they are all hard to deal with. It can be a major source of stress for anyone dealing with them, and I'm guessing it's much more stressful for the people who have the disease.

[@whalesong999]

Deep, deep feelings of inferiority. It colors the whole engagement of the sufferer with the 'world'. I have brushes with it and examining family issues over the years, it appears to be somewhat passed on until someone actually has to deal with it. I'm an octogenarian and feel that the grace of God has provided me with some measure of sanctity to deal with it and not tear down someone else's life for my compensation.

[@dwinthrop1015]

I work with people suffering from this illness. The violent act in this video is the type of horror story that we understand to be rare, but a possible worst outcome.

[@areuarealman7269]

I have something else but mental illness isn't something I would wish on my worst enemy because nobody is understanding of it unless they are affected by it I hear get over it one more time by anyone I just walk away because sometimes it's not worth it I'm crazy fine leave me alone...this whole world is full of sociopaths even those with good parents and don't have any personality disorders are just as bad just treat each other with respect it's not that hard or walk away there are many bad wolves out there hugging your babies trust me .

[@jacobsmith1105]

I got schizophrenia and it’s ironic I’m a ex night stocker just lovely that us schizos are a target now all eyes on us I’ve been to 4 psych wards just wait till they involuntarily lock us up with out consent

[@yakuzajoe]

Thinking his co-workers were speaking in code and hacking his phone is textbook psychotic paranoia.

[@dspbx718]

Not it’s not

[@yakuzajoe]

@@dspbx718 yes it is. It’s called apophonia. The belief that random things have a hidden or sinister meaning. Happens to anyone but it’s extreme in schizophrenia. It’s like seeing a leaf fall from a tree and thinking “That means my girl is cheating on me.”

[@user-xg3uy6hq9g]

@@dspbx718 what is it then?

[@yakuzajoe]

@Dusty Rodes they didn’t.

[@yakuzajoe]

@Dusty Rodes You believe in gangstalking? This conversation is over. Take your meds.

[@andreasrau2161]

Good morning, Dr. Grande. Thank you for sharing your analysis about Andre Bing with us. As a layman, I would probably refer to Bing as a paranoid schizophrenic, complete with hearing voices. While he seems to have been anti-social prior to the incident and the people around him didn't like him or his attitude, and there are lots of anti-social people out there who don't commit murder, that didn't act as a warning to those around him. That, I think, is what makes this situation so dangerous because people cannot really differentiate between an obnoxious nuisance and a psychotic moving towards a murderous explosion against those around him. It is telling that Walmart did not consider his behavior bad enough to merit firing him, although employees come and go at Walmart so he might actually have been considered competent by the managers in that company. That his efforts were concentrated solely on those with whom he worked might be regarded as a small mercy.

[@ValiantMichael]

His brother said Andre has paranoid schizophrenia in 2027. I kept telling my wife her two brothers have this. That is why I stay away from them. It gets dangerous when this doesn't get treated.

[@mranonymous7771]

I believe his perception of being harassed and ostracized. People just don’t snap for no reason. Some people just want to do their job and go home. They don’t like the gossip and drama of cliques. Unfortunately, we have people in the world who dislike people who they feel aren’t “on their level” and will target those individuals for abuse and if malignant enough will revel in their misfortune of losing their job, car, house etc.

[@heisensaul5538]

Something like this scares me. I work at a big box store, and this scenario is always in the back of my mind and I want to be ready for it, and I hope it never happens.

[@kymfjohnson1]

Sometimes I think this could happen while I'm shopping at these places too!😢

[@russmode]

Concealed carry.

[@blockinglowtier]

Just be nice to everyone and maybe they'll let you live

[@heisensaul5538]

@@blockinglowtier hopefully that would be the case

[@CSAccetura]

Then I would suggest if you are legally allowed to do so purchase you a firearm and train with that mofo daily. There is a segment of society that will hurt or kill you to get what they want and on the very slim chance you run into that segment I would want you to be prepared.. the little signs on the doors that says do not carry your firearm inside are not laws they are merely recommendations and store policy. I'm going to carry my firearm everywhere I go no matter where that is.. if you can't see it who's to say I have it anyway

[@iyalove9383]

I've been hoping you'd cover this tragedy. Thank you Dr. Grande.

[@drferry]

I don't care how desperate an organization is to fill a difficult position, a supervisor has the responsibility to ensure that a competent, empathetic person is in a position of authority, otherwise the workplace environment is toxic and counterproductive. This guy should have never been given this job, but once someone made the mistake of assigning him to it, honest performance reviews should have determined that he was totally unfit for it.

[@sal2975]

The shooting still would've happened. He would have just been a regular associate.

[@CMB-fd5kz]

I dont think manual jobs have that there

[@tkenglander6226]

A lot of companies do NOT want someone in management to have empathy b/c empathy can be manipulated; these companies prefer to have a competent, authoritarian and by-the-books manager in place - empathy be damned.

[@dawn1913]

i would say a significant reason not to fire him is his threat that if he were ever fired "people would remember his name". how do you handle such a threat? he's dangerous to keep on but perhaps even more dangerous if let go. this predicament reminds me of something close to home, being threatened if you leave the (abusive, unpredictable) marriage you will never see your kids again. i am so sorry for the victims of this senseless loss.

[@h0rriphic]

Oh snap. The way Dr G pronounced _Norfolk_ almost has me convinced he’s from the Hampton rds area himself; he dropped that r’ like he’s a local. 😅

[@tosanesoko726]

Please be nice to everyone people! You never know what they're going through internally.

[@terryKessler42719]

Not as easy as you think. Some paranoid people think you’re “out to get them” if you’re nice to them. I worked with someone like that. You’re walking a tightrope when you’re around them.

[@cyndigooch1162]

Tosan Esoko Unfortunately, it doesn't make any difference whatsoever with some extremely troubled individuals, or can even make it worse, due to their hatred and paranoia. I clearly remember one psychopathic person stating that he hates EVERYONE equally, so there you go. I'm thinking that the man who committed this horrendous, not to mention unnecessary, crime killed people who were kind to him as well. I've found that it's best to avoid dangerous individuals, IF possible, and it's easy to pick them after personal experience and/or education. 🙁

[@cyndigooch1162]

@@terryKessler42719 That's exactly right and I'm WAY too familiar with the walking on eggshells feeling! 🙁

[@tamitatangoto5134]

You did miss something I noticed. And that's that he didn't just tell her to "go home" he called her by name. She had only worked there like 5 days. I've seen her interview it is very tragic, if you haven't seen it you should watch it. It will touch your heart. Anyway; I think her name is Jesse. And she said that she had spoken to him since she had started working there and had told him that she had a young child of a specific age, and that his response to her was that "that was a delightful age of a child." Something to that effect,.. BUT Jesse is a sweet girl and you can tell it just by her interview. A lot of the reason I'm sure she was spared.😓

[@dalepointer9414]

THIS HAS been going on for years. The case of Howard Unruh is similar. World War 11 veteran who killed 13 people in 12 minutes in 1949 was found insane and died in a mental hospital many decades later. At that time it seemed "crazy" but today it is a two day story until the next emotionally challenged male with a gun is anxious to leash his anger out in his small repressed world. Some shout "death penalty"! The question: how do you punish a murderer who kills themself?

[@onetimeiateanindonesianguy6183]

You don’t. God does.

[@scootergirl3662]

I can’t say I am the least bit surprised, and it is frustrating because I had an incident at a Walmart where I overheard an employee talk about shooting a kid. I told the manager about it but I don’t know what happened after that. I hope the least that comes out of this is that the hammer starts coming down on companies to deal with the employees that are problems. When I worked retail, I dealt with so many employees with emotional and behavioral issues that it became normal. I get working retail sucks, but it is dangerous and it is also unfair to the people just trying to do their job and pay their bills to have to deal with such sociopaths. At some point we need to hold companies responsible for being able to do something and doing nothing

[@jinchuriki7022]

You never know who you hire

[@captainnemo5379]

A guy chased another out of the store by me, and shot him. We never leave our house without a gun now days.

[@nancyzehr3679]

Sometimes its not solely the employees, but the company culture.

[@laureljade3476]

I've had a coworker threaten to kill me.

[@hostronic]

Did you ever think the way companies and customers treat the employees may be the reason why retail employees have mental health issues? Retail employees are having to deal with working longer hours, with twice the workload, and no raise in pay. On top of that customers are getting even more abusive than in the past. But sure blame all retail employees based on your singular and limited personal experience. Because it definitely makes sense to extrapolate from your own experience and stereotype millions of people based on that. I think you may be the one with the problem.

[@lnc-to4ku]

What a powerful video you put together, Dr. Grande! I still can't believe the amount of information you manage to pack into them all! ♡♡

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[@allaboutmedicationaides]

Yes! Thank you so much for this thoughtful analysis, Dr. Grande! Workplace violence is tragic. I express my deepest condolences to the families of the victims of this incident.

[@kristaw2686]

This is terribly sad. I feel that you can be equally disgusted and angry at someone and also sad and mourn that they didn't get the help they needed, for whatever reason.

[@cyndigooch1162]

Krista W I totally agree with you and mental health issues are mainly caused by unhealed childhood trauma issues, which is extremely common! I've known people like Andre Bing, who probably would've shot people, if guns were more readily available where I live, or if they didn't fear going to jail so much. Of course, there are other factors involved nowadays as well and social media, not to mention violent video games and pornography, are contributing. 😥

[@onetimeiateanindonesianguy6183]

@@cyndigooch1162notice how it’s all rooted in sin? Someone commits a sin against a child and that haunts the child until they grow up and either rise above it while still bearing the weight or succumb to the pressure and sin against someone else? It’s funny how it works like that. I grew up an atheist and have recently reverted to Islam.

[@aniolive]

A few years ago I briefly worked at a Walmart in the pharmacy not far from Chesapeake, but soon realized the culture there was not supportive. I reported bullying behavior from 2 co workers but nothing was done. Walmart values productive employees even if they have bad behavior. However, I am not saying Andre couldn't have been treated badly by his coworkers and subordinates too. I have heard some disturbing things from a former coworker regarding racism being at play at Walmart. I absolutely think it's possible Andre was both a perpetrator and a victim.

[@zebradun7407]

One thing most people miss is, he could have been telling the truth and people were pushing and harassing him in reality but everyone made it look like he was crazy.

[@kimchin7687]

Concur, People deal with things differently, so the rule is just to be nice, thinking on both sides, imagine someone's last day alive and you were the last person they encountered that make them smile or made them cry!

[@renegade2325]

This is exactly what bullies do. They are the aggressors and then they play the victim.

[@MettleHurlant]

There are some people who just have issues and there isn’t much we can do about it if they don’t cross certain boundaries. You can’t turn someone in just for being awkward or antisocial. They need to say or do something specific to be fired or get police involved. I wish they would teach kids how to be more resilient and deal with social situations in a healthy way. Too many young people struggle with mental illness and need to have tools to help them cope.

[@michaelciccone2194]

Night shift is difficult. Medical doctors have concluded about the negative effects of night shift. Mr.Bing's mental health was worsened by lack of proper sleep and a normal lifestyle. Very sad but true....some nasty things have happened on nite shift : ExxonMobil disaster and Chernobyl nuclear disaster.

[@antoniobranch]

I totally agree. When you work the night shift, and its a dead job or position. You'll feel like you have absolutely no life. You're just living to work.

[@yoshi9706]

@@antoniobranch i work at walmart and my coworkers from night shift literally dont mind overnight

[@babagandu]

Lack of vitamin D and fresh, nutritious organic foods

[@cinemathequerouge317]

@@yoshi9706 It really depends. If you have a group of people who are introverts & mind their own business, night shift can be great. Just go in, put your headphones on & get the work done.

[@JoshuaCastillo6309]

Solid point. I work the 12 hour night shift as a Monitor Tech in a hospital. I have to go home and get my hours of sleep over with so that I have an actual day to enjoy. Otherwise I’d probably become disoriented and confused.

[@mario-qi3yw]

Thank you Dr Grande for reviewing this case. I think it’s really sad that Andre felt this was his only recourse. That so many people feel this way.

[@gabrielle.9298]

Thank you for covering this case, Dr. Grande. Hearing the age range of the victims is particularly devastating - think of how much the 16 year old would’ve accomplished throughout his life, and how much the 70 year old had learned & experienced.

[@grindingdeviance1864]

That section of the video at about :50 where all of the guy's negative traits were summed up was funny in a sick humor kind of way. I can almost imagine the guy in question saying, after all was said, "Ok, but other than THOSE traits, I'm a pretty good guy, right ??"

[@WishAtElevenEleven]

Thank you for consistently making good quality, well researched videos Dr. Grande. I had to stop watching for a while after losing my brother in a violent crime, but I have always appreciated your content. 🖤

[@shamusfarmer]

I agree that betrayal is the worst feeling next to regret.

[@mrtymrtt5061]

guilt

[@acev9175]

Jesus christ please don't shoot up a walmart now, jeez

[@shamusfarmer]

@@acev9175 lol, see now, that would lead to regret, a worse feeling. Therefore it's best to just push those feelings down deep, deep inside and hope that they go away. That's how that works, right?

[@Martin-gf1hh]

I worked at Walmart for 23 years it can be a horrible place Especially with groups of associates/ management grouping up on a employee and badger them until they Quit so they don’t have to pay Unemployment if they fire them.

[@yoshi9706]

The worker should just sue walmart at that point?

[@xminusone1]

WoW that's exactly why I never go to wallmart. I know they're awful with their staff

[@a.jlondon9039]

A survivor of the shooting had reported this guy to HR months before. She is now suing Walmart for $50 million.

[@RB01.10]

Good, if the upper management was made aware of his disturbing behavior it should’ve been addressed

[@mikemeza1975]

I pray she wins. Walmart has become a greed factory just like sears and roe buck before they folded.

[@tadonplane8265]

I’d like to think she’ll clean their clock but they’ll settle out of court for an undisclosed amount after she signs a nondisclosure agreement. $50 million is pocket change to Walmart corporate. Walmart needs to pay their employees enough to get them off of food stamps. Until us taxpayers can stop subsidizing the world’s hugest richest corporation we should all stop shopping there.

[@milohigh3368]

Companies executives need to take serious (safety) measures to stop work place bullying. The workplace has become so toxic because people (employees) are not being held accountable to professional and respectful conduct. Today, if unprofessional conduct is reported, often it's the person reporting the offense that faces losing their job or toxicity from the offender or offenders in the workplace. Executives need to be held accountable for not implementing zero tolerance reprimands for workplace toxicity. It's gotten out of hand in so many companies because of the company leaders.

[@ShyLeonheart]

Seriously. Every time I started a new job, they'd all tout the same, bullshit "Zero tolerance harassment in the workplace" policy, and yet, I've had toxic co-workers on every job. The one time I spoke up, the offenders got to keep their jobs, and people started anonymously harassing me in my neighborhood.

[@honey-feeney9800]

It’s too difficult to hear this story. Andre was a very troubled man . I’m so sorry this happened .

[@aaboo1212]

This one hits so close to home I live a City over from Chesapeake and I've been to that Walmart a bunch of times. It's scary to think people living on the edge contemplating their life and yours can work and live right next to you

[@user-cs1un6sp1wRennata]

Thank you for your coverage of this sad event and your detailed description and analysis, Dr. Grande! 🖤

[@honeybeewood8968]

I worked in a store when someone seemed to be having mental illness problems we were told it was our problem and learn to get along and work around them which always led to everyone quitting. It was usually the supervisors or store managers. I could never understand why when hiring supervisors or managers they don't take their mental health seriously.

[@peaceseeker9927]

Managers in a lot of stores are not the brightest of society, they are hard dependable workers who understand their trade. In today's environment, a manager is showing incompetence by ignoring potentially threatening mental health issues that are witnessed in their work environment.

[@kiskakuznetsova503]

@@peaceseeker9927 But, who suffers when these things happen? Walmart doesn't really. The community does but so what, Walmart doesn't care about the community as long as they have enough money to buy their products. The people who were slaughtered and their families are affected. It's no big deal to companies as huge as Walmart. It's a given, to them, that these high-pressure jobs with low-skilled staff (I'm not putting them down, I am one myself) who have stressful lives will break and do this.

[@troycleek7394]

He displayed the same qualities of the heads of corporations and even world leaders. It wasn't worth it to him just being a supervisor at Walmart so he brought things to an end.

[@MrGuggisberg]

People with mental health issues need jobs too, or should they be sent to the gulag?

[@troycleek7394]

@MrGuggisberg I agree. I could use some quality time in a good mental hospital but there is only prisons. As much as we pay in taxes and there is no relief.

[@VideoSaySo]

A sad, horrible thing to happen. However, I'm starting to think the only reason many of these people need is that the whole world is going bonkers and when people get fed up now, they can't just walk away...they act violently. Face it, we're ALL fed up to a certain degree and the only difference between him and potentially any one of us is self control.

[@LukeSumIpsePatremTe]

Get help

[@tomscerbo1588]

Well said! Very true statement!👍

[@VideoSaySo]

@@LukeSumIpsePatremTe Why? For being aware of the true nature of human beings?

[@lonemaus562]

@@LukeSumIpsePatremTeget off your high horse dork

[@babagandu]

Lack of family and worship

[@annelawrence9127]

Thank you Dr. Grande - I live in Va Beach and Chesapeake is right up the street- have friends who shop there all the time. Excellent analysis.

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[@huffysheraton]

Hostile, mean, aggressive, unreasonable, unstable, petty, difficult, mean, paranoid, grumpy, condescending. In other words, a perfect fit for Walmart. Surprised they didn't make him store manager!

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[@akiramatoi4158]

LOL i read this perfectly on time as he was listing them.. like EXACTLY on time HAHAHA

[@h.b.theminimalist489]

You know what, I bet his coworkers WERE talking in code about him because coworkers literally suck so much sometimes. I would honestly not be surprised at all if they were doing that. Not supporting the actions he took though.

[@CSAccetura]

The way they describe him and to think that they're not talking about him behind his back is just ridiculous

[@peaceofmind.367]

Your assessment of this case is 100% spot on Dr Grande. There is an enormous need globally for better understanding and recognition of the prodromal phase. Unless something is done to address the issue of early intervention, lives will continue to be lost and very little progress will be made.

[@antonydrossos5719]

I always thought Psychosis and Schizophrenia always went hand-in-hand. I’m always learning something new! R.I.P to the victims

[@areuarealman7269]

They don't but I'm not an educated fool but am sick of labels just more labels stickers for people that aren't conditioned idiots ...they must have a mental illness blah blah blah .

[@LondonBroilSandwiches]

I wonder if Andres overnight shift contributed to the onset of his psychosis . There is a strong link between overnight shift work and the disruption of sleep regulation and the subsequent development of mental health issues including psychosis even in people with non preexisting mental health problems.

[@coderjd]

this analysis seems completely on point, thank you Dr. Grande for helping many make sense of it all 🙏

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[@tauresattauresa7137]

How horrible that this man was a manager. Poor staff, putting up with a crazy person like him. Walmart should be sued by the staff who were under him.

[@eatmanyzoos]

its literally designed to work that way. breaking down peoples humanity. its basically slavery. im sure they used to get slaves to manage other slaves in the 1800s

[@infinitejest441]

How could they know he would turn homicidal?

[@RB01.10]

@@infinitejest441 Not really that, but his behavior seemed to raise many red flags that should have been taken seriously and addressed

[@ramonaringer]

Par for the course at Walmart.

[@goldilox369]

@@ramonaringer that's the truth! It doesn't matter how awful you are to coworkers. If you show up for your shifts, and don't complain about the pay, you can usually be promoted pretty quickly. Actually, being mean to your coworkers is usually seen as promotion material.

[@littleeva]

The man who runs the KZbin channel, "Soft White Underbelly" interviews a lot of people on skid row in L.A. He always asks them the same question, "Where did you grow up? Did you grow up with both parents? What was your childhood like?" I see a lot of disconnection and isolation today. No community. People stay in a job, or in an area for a few years and then move on. I think this might contribute to social anxiety and awkwardness.

[@kerrymarshall2071]

Thanks again Dr Grande you explained exactly how the fuse got ignited that lead to this horrendous outcome. The majority of these situations begin with similar subject profiles making it intently challenging to catch on too before tragedy occurs.

[@eileensalimbene4264]

Mt husband Tony has followed you since the beginning. He is a forensic psych honors major from CUNY, but finished school as an investigator, not clinical. He/we appreciate your explanations as correct- not catch words (crazy) and hope you continue eEducating us on this very sad topic of mental health.

[@jonasosa5126]

From how he describes himself to what other described him as, he really had no idea how he looked to others and didn’t care

[@imaginempress3408]

Every workplace has the potential for this outcome. I keep thinking of the poor woman he told to go home. She will be tortured by that for the rest of her life. I hope the other survivors heal and seek mental health support. My condolences to the friends and families and coworkers of those lost.

[@rikkifitnessmama]

This is the perfect example of how Walmart makes just anyone a manager. The low prices are the the only thing good about this company.

[@DarkFilmDirector]

Burnout from high workload due to excess inventory from overordering from overseas last year, the ongoing effects of a demanding and hyper entitled consumer customer base in post covid shortages, and a rigid adherence to process standards leads to exceptionally high turnover for good people in management roles.

[@jackbrown5184]

Dude wasn’t a manager lmao. Anyone who works at grocery store for 5 years or more can become a team lead… it’s like a $15/h job. I had this same role in high school 😂

[@cathyosullivan718]

People work so hard to make ends meet at these jobs and now they have to worry about getting murdered. How could Walmart keep a manager like this?

[@northerngirl1637]

...or hire him in the first place.

[@mikemeza1975]

To make money and ride herd on the workers.

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

Thank you for helping us making sense of this tragic case. Much appreciated.❤

[@Blissfulnessence]

It's interesting how the analysis changed once the manifesto was introduced. Makes one wonder how many of our perceptions would change about other events if others left manifestos/journaling. Thanks Dr. Grandé for the intriguing analysis

[@HollieBlack]

Can you cover the recent Established Titles scam allegations?

[@ToyInsanity]

I'm pretty sure he shills for them.

[@donalynette]

We are often admonished, & encouraged, to care more deeply for people. Here is a good reason why. Love, is still the answer.

[@mjanny6330]

Do you love incels?

[@chuckrobinson599]

Love yourself first, and avoid these sort of people. First though, you need to watch the video again, and listen to the description of Andre.

[@helpyourcattodrive]

It’s Grande time. Here we go. Yet another unbelievable story. Thanks a lot for all the great videos and your expert analysis. Much appreciation.

[@Jo0pishere]

Andre definitely had issues, I pray everybody finds someone that they can confide in before they make any decision that affects their lives and others. 😢 Hug your loved ones (or greet everyone with love and grace) and especially the socially awkward.

[@sal2975]

He had issues dude. To anyone reading this, if you have issues too you should seek help.

[@davef.5131]

@@sal2975 you also have issues.

[@Heaux722]

Love this new set up Dr grande! Love watching your Chanel grow! Started this at like 70k subs now over a million- love watching my fav KZbinrs grow!

[@lital.5222]

I am not convinced it was targeted, as I believe one employee was on his very first night and one was a sixteen year old. Bottom line the employees had complained about him and nothing was done. This is a Walmart issue.

[@donaldvonglitchenberger4108]

If they complained and fired him what would that have done? He’ d still walk in and shoot people. Whether they complained or not

[@Hurricoaster]

Completely and totally preventable I feel. That compounds with the fact this is already such a tragedy. I wish we had better mental health outlets in the US. It also just helps having a friend to talk to. I'm grateful in my life that I've had the support network that I've had... But it's easy to forget that not everyone does. I feel like all it takes is just one person to turn someone's life around for the better.

[@mikekimanzi]

Big companies should consider investing in the mental health of employees. He was a seriously disturbed person who endangered lives of his coworkers.

[@kjen1516]

I know a person that heard banging from the apt upstairs. The upstairs neighbors did make noise sometimes but not what they described. They recorded the “noise” but no one heard banging as described. Then they said the neighbors hacked their phone and removed the sound. This person is also a hard worker also. Unfortunately we believed the noises were real for sometime so we unknowingly supported their hallucinations. Psychosis is quite scary to be around. What a cloud of darkness folks suffering from delusions must feel. I wish the signs and symptoms were clearer. This person has symptoms of communal narcissism- bouts of depression - substance issues (at the onset). They also created a financial catastrophe bc of overspending they may be bipolar as well. Idk but it’s certainly is difficult to seek help for ppl like this.

[@elizabethwarman9028]

Good afternoon Dr Grande. Really enjoyed your analysis. First off why didn't anyone see to get Andre mental health care? I am tired of religious people blaming everything on Satan! My pastor at the First Baptist church of Downey use to say "Satan has better things to do with his time, then be bothered with you!" Psychotic breaks from reality is beyond frightening. I suffered from a psychotic break in the summer of 2014. I thought my sister and I had six dogs. Three Blond Cocker Spaniels, and three Doyle ( Dashshund Beagle mix). My sister kept telling we only had two dogs. Finally, I returned to my senses. I actually thought the month was still June. I literally lost three months of my life. Andre was deeply disturbing. I need to know why there is no law requiring people who want to buy guns, being required to take a psychological test? I feel deeply for the families who lost love ones. And those who were injured. Keep up the great work. Happy first Tuesday of Advent!

[@Mayoninja]

Keep it up Dr. G! Thanks for all of the interesting content you put out!

[@gigiwills7851]

It is my understanding that schizophrenia patients, although burdened with disordered thinking, are not usually violent, despite movies to the contrary. Police, in particular seen unable to differentiate between pyschotic episodes and aggression. The most horrifying news story I heard was of a schizophrenic young man approached by several policemen in NM was shot dead when he was unable to follow their commands. So it is distressing to me that this mass workplace episode was speculated to be a first episode of psychosis. To me, that seems highly unlikely and contributing to the fear mongering that goes on about mental illness. JS

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[@halomorningstar967]

Dr Grande, your analyses are always enjoyable and thought-provoking, even though our views on the world occasionally differ. (I will say they are more the same than different.) I generally don't comment, just hit the like button and look forward to the next one. This one showed a level of professionalism and insight that I think showed us how good a doctor you are in practice. You always do a good job of balancing seriousness and levity, which isn't always the easiest needle to thread in this weird new era. You did a good job with this one, and I appreciate your approach. I also learned a few things about how psychosis works that has given me new insight into what may have been going on inside of two loved ones in the past who took their own lives. It's hard to understand how people you think you know suddenly have a whole new reality, yet are still canny enough to manage planning to carry out actions in reality. Your description of being caught in between psychosis and reality made so much sense. Thanks again.

[@dougstubbs9637]

Going Walmart is the new Going Postal.

[@cantorofleng7837]

I think it's worth pondering that out of so many loner-shooters, why did none of them end their lives first, especially if they regret their choice to commit homicide? Is it because their manifestos are insincere, or is it something else peculiar to mass shooters?

[@diannt9583]

I suspect some DID end their own lives first. Thus, those ones are not those lone shooters that got out into the public. (Would that all the lone shooters who mean to commit suicide would do that second action first!)

[@azulgaia7782]

Dr G said it was revenge.

[@Tanesha835]

Although it wasn’t mentioned in his death note, I do wonder if his mother’s death somehow pushed him over the edge.

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[@ggarcia3237]

Not likely

[@wandae1854]

I was thinking the same thing 😮

[@WeekendsOutsideFL]

I have been socially outcast over many years of my life, and I suffer from a schizophrenic-similar condition. I get angry sometimes but my coping mechanism is all of the small blessings life has to offer… like all the cool plants and animals, good healthcare, and my family. These blessings have always kept me feeling happy to be alive and they allow me not to get too worked up about my difficulties.

[@nicoleholley7049]

My old manager would talk down on me. She laughed at my mistakes. I cried never thought about doing anything like that. She held my phone calls fron me for up to a year, didn't take messages from them either. I made it through by prayers.

[@jackiegrice714]

This case was sad on many levels. I’m sad for both the victims and the perpetrator. He may never have been violent without the push of psychosis. Dr Grande, your videos are so information packed that I’m on the edge of my seat watching them. Im afraid I’ll miss something if my attention drifts. Thanks for exploring this case with us.

[@johnfroelich8554]

Two weeks ago this Walmart manager was virtually unknown. Today, Dr Grande is analyzing him. Wow

[@mjanny6330]

Just like he wanted.

[@billhildebrand5053]

Thankyou Dr. Grande - very well done. Many factors I have not considered, would have preferred he had had one or two closer friends who could affirm him.

[@JeffreyWillis800]

What if Andre just needed a few friends in his life, people that truly cared about him and loved him? Maybe he would have taken a different path?

[@goresettt]

Cover the Colorado shooting

[@Griselda_Puppy]

Society very much stigmatizes as well as continually fails to provide young black men (all black men, really) with decent options to help with their mental health. This is a prime example, and it's very sad.

[@brostelio]

To me, this may be doctor Grande's most thought-provoking video so far.

[@SavPowers]

I’m curious to hear about his employee record to know if there were complaints about his behavior.

[@thomasdoubting]

Make health care a priority! 🧠

[@victorhugoraga4896]

These happened just some miles from where I live, everyone now is pretty uneasy about every coworker they have that might be socially awkward because of fear they might come to work shooting everyone one day.

[@kimchin7687]

This is sad all around, those who could of help turn a blind eye, these things happen. unfortunately, when someone feels mistreated or taken advantage off, it can lead to the straw that broke the camel back as in case of the supervisor, it is always wise to treat people the way you want to be treated and by doing the right thing for simply it's the right thing to-do. Seems like Gaslighting going all around., and perhaps he had unresolve issues and higher up fail him. Seems others had a beef with him, he had a home and a position perhaps some jealousy somewhere. Truly heartbreaking on both sides.

[@kimchin7687]

just wondering if this is actual words or was it altered? sometimes it is sad when the victims and predator is not around to defend themself, it is always a good idea that some should never talk about anyone when they are not around to defend themselves

[@BigZebraCom]

Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating about what could be happening when even the biggest horses's assess have a manifesto these days.

[@Duk3Silv3r]

I work in the post office and what I've learned from "work bullies" is that you have to stand your ground and don't back down to em. They're (work bullies) miserable people who (depending on their position) get a minimum level of respect at work but probably get disrespected at home. Much like prison and high school, the work force is the same, imo. I encountered two of my work bullies and I confronted them on sight. Just like I thought, they were picking on people who don't or won't defend themselves due to fear of being fired. Keep a record of everytime you are harassed. Bullies only push you as far as you let them. I stood up to these assholes and made it my mission to come to work everyday just to piss them off. One of my bullies decided to come at me only to end up getting caught and suspended for 3 weeks. The other bully I constantly taunt for being a rapist because he raped 2 women at work. Everyone knows it but because the two women left and never pursued it, I make sure to remind him everytime. Now, he makes it his business to avoid me at all cost.

[@_audacity2722]

Imagine if one of those guys came back and shot up the place..... Andre Bing was also reported twice for sexual harassment

[@icturner23]

Writing down in advance that something one’s going to do isn’t planned is a funny way of not planning it.

[@vice2versa]

yeah

[@tshiruh5]

I was waiting for ur analysis on this one

[@crittercrossing2913]

Psychosis is out of control! And so little treatment available for those who are vulnerable and anti social. I am sure he showed many signs that were ignored for one reason or another. Worked for Walmart once, once is enough!