What EuroBike is REALLY Like

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What EuroBike is REALLY Like

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Vlog of our time at Eurobike 2024.
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@juliapoelstra3624 Ай бұрын

I have second hand exhaustion from watching this. 😂

@ebikescrapper3925 Ай бұрын

Thanks for all the videos you make.

@woodywoodverchecker Ай бұрын

A little side info about the pedals: Germany has some special rules about e-bikes. As long as it has pedals, less than 250 Watt and only accelerates up to 25 km/h, it's a so called "pedelec" and the rules are the same as for bicycles. As soon as it allows you to accelerate without pedaling, it's an e-bike which has various downsides. You need a simplified driver's license (Mofaprüfbescheinigung), a license tag, insurance and you're not allowed to use all bike paths. This is not the same in other countries, but it makes sense for companies to offer vehicles that do fall under these requirements, just so that they are bicycles by law.

@headslash55 Ай бұрын

Isn't the 250watt rule only for the UK?

@DonnieX6 Ай бұрын

@@headslash55 it is EU wide 250W

@woodywoodverchecker Ай бұрын

@@headslash55 It's also the rule in Austria, where I am from. The pedal thing does not matter here though.

@headslash55 Ай бұрын

@@DonnieX6 not in Belgium and the Netherlands Alot of bikes like the ones with the pinion mgu's (600watt) are sold here without any issue or license and plate requirement. Only for models that can go 45kmph or faster. There is no wattage limit.

@DonnieX6 Ай бұрын

@@headslash55 nah, also in Belgium and Netherlands it is 250W to be counted as a normal bikr

@mechanicaldavid4827 Ай бұрын

I went into shock when Russ said "there's too much bike stuff" - that is like an End Times event! It seems _a little ironic_ that there were no bikes to get around such a massive show. On the plus side, this expo facility has excellent safety features and fire exits.

@black.raven.adventures Ай бұрын

After seeing this and recognize how tired you guys where in Frankfurt I really feel I have to apologize that I talked your ear off and did the groupie thing when I bumped into you both at the Stans booth. ;-) It was a pleasure shaking hand in person. Greetings to Girona!

@PathLessPedaledTV Ай бұрын

Ha. No problem.

@Hambini Ай бұрын

My Eurobike was great. I just took selfies with everybody and got to meet some red hot clunge.

@derekhobbs1102 Ай бұрын

The pen is working hard.

@paulvanreesch2493 Ай бұрын

Hey Russ, Im sitting on my couch, getting exhausted just watching this. Looks like all the fun of an international airport.

@PathLessPedaledTV Ай бұрын

That’s a good analogy.

@bikefriday Ай бұрын

So happy to see some mini velos at EuroBike!

@escgoogle3865 Ай бұрын

Looking forward to the maxway, diacomp and microshift interviews.

@b9904 Ай бұрын

Microshift!

@yarly3180 Ай бұрын

00:47 WD-40 Promo Girl looks like she thinks the day will not be SMOOTH sailing lol

@jimogg3912 Ай бұрын

Love your content. Sort of seems like each floor is similar to a district in the Hunger Games.

@KaushikNSanji Ай бұрын

You are moving from one terminal to another. That's how big Eurobike is always!

@BrianWarsing Ай бұрын

Did you find the SPD Crocs?

@barrytantlinger1033 Ай бұрын

I think that in Europe there's legally no such thing as Class II and Class III bikes as we know them in the US. So everything must be pedal-assist, must not have throttles, have a maximum power of 250 watts and a top speed of 15.5mph (25km/h). Anything above that requires licensing as a moped or motorcycle. So all those cargo bikes and bike vans are probably made to meet these regs and must be able to be pedaled.

@Machinationstudio Ай бұрын

I want that WD-40 tshirt! 0:46

@Ugrovie Ай бұрын

I fully understand how exhausted you get,, that exhibition centre in Frankfurt is absolutely gigantic. I hope you managed to visit the old part of the city, it is so much nicer

@3mekG Ай бұрын

Many thanks for going to Frankfurt, visiting the show and filming all that. I really enjoy watching your coverage. The pedals on some of those 'bikes' are there just to manage legal requirements (as many people mentioned). You do look disappointed sometimes, but as you said - there is a wide variety of people and they do enjoy their cycling in different ways. They also have different needs - some people use bikes just as a means of transport without any sentiment, others have some limitations - age/health/mobility - and just benefit from extending their range by using electric assistance. Considering this is a trade show and e-bikes are selling well in Europe (already surpassed non-e-bikes in some countries in terms of items sold, in terms of margins it must by way more) - this is what is shown. So don't be disappointed 😊 Next time come to Germany, do some bike touring before - e.g. part of EuroVelo route and while visiting Eurobike just the stands you are interested in - and of course - try some of those e-bikes 😂

@geoffersmaher Ай бұрын

hope you saw met the guys from two tone amsterdam, they are into your kinda stuff. ran by an american. give the radio show on echobox a listen - mechanics of joy. great vid guys

@paulmanago4856 Ай бұрын

I used to attend these kind of shows in Europe though from a different industry. That fair is held every 4 years. The halls are typical in Europe. And yes, they are very tiring. What you're going through is normal for huge exhibitions like this. I feel you guys.

@jorgalbrecht2699 Ай бұрын

Love to see you both enyoing the "Curryworst"😂 have fun

@phililpb Ай бұрын

the sauce is made from ketchup with added curry powder lol

@jorgalbrecht2699 Ай бұрын

@@phililpb i know, i live in Berlin

@BuckleyJonathan-nr1wu Ай бұрын

Just visited my favourite bike shop here in France. Normally it’s full of road bikes and hybrids. This year, more electric bikes than anything. They don’t feel like bikes - more like motorbikes. I know they are only following current trends but I can’t help feeling, this is a move in the wrong direction.

@symon246 Ай бұрын

haha, the Frankfurt Messe is big enough to just live inside as pigeons for generations

@Dan_x-l6h Ай бұрын

To cherry-pick some brands at Eurobike is the best option. To cover the whole area in three days is impossible (and unnecessary). Smaller shows like Cyclingworld in Duesseldorf, Kolektif Berlin and of course Bespoked in Dresden are nice alternatives.

@peterbedford2610 Ай бұрын

Thanks

@camt1818 Ай бұрын

Looks like the bike equivalent of the North American International Auto Show, but even bigger! The engineering job opportunities must be amazing over there. Almost no bike engineering jobs in the US. I don't want to do automotive anymore!

@danzacjones Ай бұрын

Seems like they should invent a technology for easily getting around large venues with wide ample walkways...

@user-jm3wr1ty2j Ай бұрын

Thank you!

@dazielcarlton6857 13 күн бұрын

Good job 👏

@-MacCat- Ай бұрын

@11:18 🤣🤣🤣 and it pretty well conveys what you seemed to think of the whole experience, not just the food.

@outtatrex Ай бұрын

Thanks, I would love to see what the Bike Travelling part of the show looked like. To me, that would be the only interesting part. I was at Eurobike last year, and was really disappointed, way too many electric bikes.

@PathLessPedaledTV Ай бұрын

Bike travel part was really small and nothing really to report on.

@derekhobbs1102 Ай бұрын

I was deliberately watching channels I'm not subscribed to for different Eurobike content. It's good to see different points of view.

@robenglish416 Ай бұрын

Used to be IAA there, the big carshow every other year! Impressive That they managed to fill it with bike stuff!

@Ridemybike123 Ай бұрын

I went to every Interbike, it was always a blast! I even did the crit at Mandalay with Chipo.

@kimkrimson Ай бұрын

The small electric vehicles with pedals are helping cities in Germany a lot. It is a legislation loophole that companies use. The awesome side effect is that they are much slower (safer) and less noisy than delivery trucks

@thomashammack7743 Ай бұрын

You shouldve worn Heely's

@stephenkohler3472 Ай бұрын

It provides a nice glimpse of the future... Roads full of E-pods.

@singletrackmania1 Ай бұрын

Gracias por el esfuerzo!

@billmaidment Ай бұрын

A bike show is my worst nightmare. Bikes everywhere and nothing to for sale.

@roguecode2354 Ай бұрын

It would make more sense to get a vespa then one of those heavy ebikes, but my logic also tells me that I might as well get a proper motorcycle if I am going to be on the road instead of a little scooter

@hippiebits2071 Ай бұрын

I’m curious if you have owned both ? I love and have owned motorcycles but for short trips, a scooter or e-bike is just going to be less of a pain in the neck to deal with on a day to day basis imho and that doesn’t even touch on the issue of expense to own and insure. IDK it could very well be motorcycles are considerably different in Europe?

@roguecode2354 Ай бұрын

@hippiebits2071 I guess my perspective is more from a safety pov, I haven't owned either because in the US it is like a death sentence to ride a motorcycle. I just figure it is better to have the power to escape a dangerous situation on a real motorcycle than a scooter.

@hippiebits2071 Ай бұрын

@@roguecode2354 Yes, I have no clue what motorcycling in Europe is actually like either. What I do know is that the learning curve for riding proficiency on a motorcycle is far greater than e-bikes or a scooter. There is clutch operated shifting required (almost every motorcycle) along with precision throttle control. Handling at very low speeds is also going to be far less awkward on a scooter or e-bike. I guess it really depends on the primary use on which is better but motorcycles are far more dangerous in inexperienced hands than either of the other two.

@escgoogle3865 Ай бұрын

I've owned a motercycle and a big engine scooter. The problem was , the 50mph rural roads I used became 65+ during the 00's and 10's. I don't enjoy keeping up with cars at those speeds.

@AiraBai Ай бұрын

Same on the velo berlin this year: Mostly cargo bikes that are only usable with their motors and e-bikes/s-pedelecs mostly in the form of the "eSUV" category (see Canyon SUV category). There was even a booth for small electric cars for leasing... Was really disappointing.

@marcelliu3422 Ай бұрын

😂 l know exactly what you two are feeling talking about!!! I've been going years ago for years to the Friedrichshafen one. You needed for sure a weekend to 4 days to see it all, and than there was so / to much of the same same... I'm not going anymore, not even to bike motion the Dutch (to me to conservative to roady...) To much and to much of the same stuff. The last years l went, l just did one day to see my partners or new possible partners (as testrider & bike coach) appointment. I think for your interest have a look the bike show in VeloBerlin and Bespoke in Manchester.

@pjkarsijns Ай бұрын

Sounds more like EuroWalk to me. If only there was a way to cover these distances easily by some sort of human powered vehicle…

@Drew-nv1op Ай бұрын

Riese & Müller designed the Birdy, and now it’s manufactured by Pacific Cycles in Taiwan.

@gregorybraithhunter Ай бұрын

Great insights on the work of making the vids we love! I did, for a second or two, wonder if it was some kind of super-duper dry humor about being grumpy about what you do. Hmm. Also, how does it compare to the overwhelming feeling of the Sea Otter expo? Peace!

@michaelhotten752 Ай бұрын

Doing interviews really can be a time suck. When I go to Sea Otter to do podcast interviews, I walk away with enough to fill two shows. But I go wall to wall for two days to get it done. Show and tell ... works just as good.

@anitaried115 Ай бұрын

I don’t know if this is funny or sad. Is the idea that the bike needed to improve enough to become a motorcycle. Feels like part of the industry is revenue driven no doubt but improvements are steering away from the essence of what it is to ride a bike. Maybe I’m old fashioned.

@j.schaefer5622 Ай бұрын

Totally agree…for me a bike should be simple. No electronics, no motor.

@kaffeemitcola6506 Ай бұрын

@@anitaried115 You are completely right. Eurobike has not much left of its heart, a nature loving cyclist who loves pedaling and sweating. It is only a mirror of the industie that wants to sell vehicles. Fahrrad/Bicykle is defined as something with 2 wheels and pedals as far as I undestood it, the multiwheel Cargovehicles e.g. ...? Starting with Mountainbikes many years ago now more or less Mopeds/Motorbikes in focus. It is a different approach and needs a different name. New mobility or something like that.

@luandoduy416 Ай бұрын

I think it does have a place in the world. In most South East Asia countries, people use regular gas motorcycles to commute. If we can replace 1/3 of it with pedal assist bicycles, there will be some more talk of building bicycle infrastructure here, which is non-existent unless you're in Singapore. I like the normal bicycle too, but one day i'll be too old, getting bad knees and back while still have to haul like 5kg+ of stuff in my backpack. So i'll be getting an e-bike rather than a motorcycle

@kaffeemitcola6506 Ай бұрын

@@luandoduy416 You're right, there is a justification for such vehicles. But that's a different topic. Here the topic of "bicycles" has been hijacked and turned into motorcycles. All of these vehicles belong at trade fairs for motorcycles and transport vehicles, but they are not welcome there because the old established manufacturers of motorized vehicles do not want to give up market share to "bicycle manufacturers + motors". The hope that cycling infrastructure will be built because there are more bikes is a dream. It has to be politically desired and while, for example, more and more people are cycling here in Germany, at the same time less is being spent on cycling infrastructure, you can clearly see what can be expected from a country.

@jybuys Ай бұрын

I've been to Eurobike twice in the nineties. Travelled from Amsterdam by train. Eurobike is huge, I was exhausted. Too much for one day.

@2cats4tea79 Ай бұрын

Whoa, you do look tired and I appreciate the behind-the-scenes look at how hard you had to work to cover Eurobike in a meaningful way. People who want to start a channel need to understand the work that goes into one, as do viewers, who tend to forget all that goes into creating excellent content. I hope Laura didn't hurt her arm; or does she wear the sun sleeve to keep from being bruised by the camera strap/tripod?

@woodywoodverchecker Ай бұрын

Ah, half an hour of PLP goodiness, the evening is saved.

@DoomOfConviction Ай бұрын

It’s rain season in Western Europe I’ll guess. Can’t cycle a week without getting soaked.

@felixjackson2670 Ай бұрын

Well done..reflection of where our global,corporate bike industry is at. makes me think of my one and only visit to IKEA…on steroids.

@kaffeemitcola6506 Ай бұрын

"Kind of interesting" is the new "scheiße" . Eurobike does what our small Radreisemesse here in Braunschweig did 10years ago. It turned into shit, converting travelling by bike, that meant riding across countries human powered into pedelecgarbage, a journey to find the next Steckdose.

@donhuber9131 Ай бұрын

Perfect! Thank you!

@kaffeemitcola6506 Ай бұрын

@@donhuber9131 It is frustrating to write this way about one chapter of cycling, especially this part that demands to represent cycling. It got harder and harder the last years to find a space where slow and experience/nature focused biketravellers can find a place of interest and to meet. I do not mean ideas to perpetually buy new bikes or so, because if there was no crash there is no necessity of buying new gear. But seeing options and getting inspiration these days is hard and rare in real life.

@donhuber9131 Ай бұрын

@@kaffeemitcola6506 Again, spot on!

@aihionvalinta9540 Ай бұрын

Well, the two major trends in the Eurobike next year will be friction shifting and rim brakes! "Reality is for people who can't face drugs", Tom Waits.

@DDeden Ай бұрын

Bicycle (HPV) vs Motorcycle (ebike).

@AlanPina-nn5sz Ай бұрын

Would be nice they clearly divide human powered and engine powered products. I kind of get the idea of e-bikes, target group, and functionality... but seems like they went already too far apart from what a human powered bicycle to be shown just as "this is the new cycling"

@oatmonster Ай бұрын

How do you think Eurobike would be to visit as someone not in the industry who just enjoys bikes? The only similar experience I've had would probably be Sea Otter

@PathLessPedaledTV Ай бұрын

It depends on your definition of bikes. It would be overwhelming regardless. It makes Sea Otter look like a sunday picnic.

@SIGNALacquired Ай бұрын

maybe next time use a kick-scooter to move around. 😁

@b9904 Ай бұрын

Ebikes are pedal assist bikes but still muscle powered. Else, it is a motorized bike.

@anthonykoleszar1779 Ай бұрын

It appears the bike market is moving towards needing more cargo movers as the “eco-friendly “ way to move goods & services. Coupled with a huge participation rate of aging bicyclists wanting motor assistance, the “ invisible hand” of the market waves again. ✌️

@jcmuellner Ай бұрын

What a great motorcycle show!

@levinpugsley9256 17 күн бұрын

I guess if electric bikes get car folks to get out on two wheels, it’s a positive move forward toward better communities, but the simplicity of a human powered drivetrain can’t be under appreciated

@jimk6862 Ай бұрын

you may not want to look at another bike or biking-related product for another 6 months following this

@mechatakoyakisan Ай бұрын

WD40 girl looks pretty tired

@sandrochiavaro7831 Ай бұрын

One would think that at Euro Bike show you would transport from one area to another via test rental bikes or something close to it Russ&Laura. Don’t they know that cyclists hate walking lol??