What Happened to Godwyn?

[@melomet3789]

Godwyn's rotting corpse creates weird copies of itself when Deathroot is given enough time to bloom. In Summonwater Village, probably where you fight other Tibia Mariners too, there are garlic bulb like growths all around. Looking closely reveals that they have the same dead and glazed over eyes that Godwyn's corpse entangled in the Erdtree roots has.

[@MikaNeow]

Also there are giant crabs that have become infected by Godwyn's corpse and are growing copies of his face on their backs.

[@MrWepx-hy6sn]

There's also another one in Stormveil where you fight an ulcerated tree spirit

[@ExpandDong420]

They're even in Farum Azula somehow

[@jamesstump3602]

@@ExpandDong420 well given that faram azula was once a structure of the mainland, it makes sense. It was only after the dragon king had separated the ruins from the mainland did faram azula become a hovering ruin.

[@ExpandDong420]

@jamesstump3602 but that almost definitely happened before the Erdtree even existed, and absolutely did before Godwyn died.

[@joshbowman9481]

It should be noted Godwyn was also a fuckin gigiachad in life. After giving fortissax the hands and winning, he befriended the dragon and they ended up making the ancient dragon cult. “Ok now that I’m done beating the shit out of you, let’s be friends” Man’s the goat

[@GrievyRZ]

Dread Fortissax was also a pretty big fucking deal. He was said to be the greatest warrior of the war the Greater Will and The Ancient Dragons had. Dual weilding lightning spears. It's like that one Predator handskake meme.

[@darkhobo]

@@GrievyRZ she*

[@GrievyRZ]

@@darkhobo Lansseax is the female.

[@carlmadsen5734]

Gilgamesh and incedu

[@sicksteenwolves5318]

Some goku shit

[@vampyboi438]

Godwyn reminds me a lot of Baldr from norse myth Like Godwyn, Baldr was a golden god of light and love and was beloved by all Baldr's death, in a plot set in motion by Loki, was what began ragnarok. Just as Godwyn's death led to the shattering Interestingly Baldr returns after ragnarok to rule over the new world, I hope that we'll see something of Godwyn return

[@saurovaki]

Damn, never thought about it like that. Good analysis!

[@BlacklistedSoup]

Great correlation, it seems super fitting.

[@toprap88]

Yeah Only Rhadan has interested me as much as Godwyn, Man it sucks I wanna know more about this dude, The endings sucks hard too, It tells us nothing, For all that work we dont even get to see him in the ending or we become death, What a waste fo time

[@theefiestafetus]

@@toprap88 The endings are like that because it's up to you, too imagine

[@darkhobo]

Yes. Definitely influenced by the story of Baldr. Theres a lot of Slavic influence too. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radogost_(mythology)

[@Doomseer]

As Kratos himself puts it, "THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES FOR KILLING A GOD!"

[@MetallicaKing48]

“A cycle must end…”

[@Doomseer]

@@MetallicaKing48 Even when you have to torture and murder your own brother despite the fact he did nothing to deserve it. Seriously out of all of Merika's offspring Godwyn was one of the most honorable and actually showed mercy to an ancient dragon instead of killing him despite the fact he had every reason to do so.. Furthermore he didn't even force him into his service like Ranni did with the dragon she defeated but befriended him as a true equal. So tell me again a cycle must end..

[@MetallicaKing48]

@@Doomseer I think that Miquella comes to a close second compared to Godwyn. Although I do question his motives. He’s trying to rebuild the erd tree with the Haligtree. But he also wants to become a monarch that is in control of everything. Including free will of individuals.

[@Doomseer]

@@MetallicaKing48 Yeah that is honestly one of the most burning questions I have regarding Miquella which is just how much does his inherent powers of persuasion come into play when it comes to the faith he inspires in his subjects. Furthermore it brings to mind an extremely difficult moral dilemma cause even if your intentions are completely pure does that give you the right to brainwash people into having absolute faith in you and as such never questioning your actions or motives.

[@MetallicaKing48]

@@Doomseer And it was Queen Marika herself that wanted to rob everybody from that blind faith.

[@dann1_]

The bloodstain animation is the same one you get when you die to death blight build up

[@GamerGhostNinja]

Was looking for this comment

[@jacobhall4055]

Maybe fia is what did it to rogier

[@gilbot13]

yh i dont know how he didnt get that lol maybe he hasnt experianced its delight yet haha

[@dragonslayerteo5756]

after Storm veil castle Rogier has a blanket over his legs and flies everywhere, and he was certain he was going to die and I couldn't for the life of me figure out why. That bloodstain explains why, and also why he and D must've split ways. In other words, that boy got the death root. Thanks and awesome video!

[@binaryburnout3d]

@@jacobhall4055 Fia pegged him. =3

[@Whispersofchaos28]

Ever notice how Ranni stole a piece of the rune of death and the guard on Maliketh’s sword has a piece missing?

[@lucasfarias8516]

Wow

[@chisompeterson6132]

I thought that she broke off a piece of the blade, because of how rough it looks.

[@soysauce3369]

That’s why maliketh had embedded it into his own hand, so no one could touch the tune but himself again

[@lunchboxsuxatvideos2235]

Godwyn gonna be the next "gwyns firstborn" we'll randomly cross him in elden ring 3 lol

[@Cas-ed9ob]

Nah, we already got his name and came across him. That fool dead

[@jorgezamora3345]

completely dif nameless king was literally hidden in the lore until ds3 and i doubt elden ring will be a trilogy

[@sercravenmohead3631]

He’s the deathroot that you find

[@lunchboxsuxatvideos2235]

Lots of people not getting or willfully ignoring the joke lol

[@carlmadsen5734]

One can only hope

[@TheShyWhiteMage]

I do wonder if Godwyn was chosen to die because he was the favorite of the Golden Order. Ranni's last middle finger to the Golden Order was perhaps to sever her ties and kill their "Golden" boy.

[@papasweed.dispenseria5977]

Ooh boi so i have news for you

[@nutty1582]

@@papasweed.dispenseria5977 what

[@papasweed.dispenseria5977]

@@nutty1582 it's all marikas plan, ranní had a minor part in the whole thing

[@CyrodiilCome]

Probably wanted to weaken the golden order, Godwyn being one of her biggest threats so makes sense to get rid of him

[@theketaminekid1241]

@@papasweed.dispenseria5977 That's an unproven theory.

[@DBush13]

Marika removed the rune of death and gave it to Maliketh before the shattering actually took place. The shattering did not cause people to be reborn through the erd tree, that was happening before the shattering.

[@zadkal8873]

In reality BEFORE Marika entrusted the rune to Maliketh, she previously entrusted it to the Gloam Eyed Queen (who is presumed to be another of her daughters, always Empyrean like Ranni, Malenia and Miquella. Whether she is actually Melina or not, is however debatable), who however, used it to create the Godskins and the deicidal Black Flame, with the apparent intention of building an army of "Godslayers", sparking a rebellion to depose Marika and become the new Goddess of the Lands Between. But she was defeated (and presumably killed) by Maliketh along with his followers, with Marika then making him the new keeper of the Death Rune.

[@oKyuubi-]

Love the idea that Godwyn befriended dragons starting the ancient dragon cult incantations , unlike Gwyn who used his miracles to defeat them

[@Anjiruu]

Ohhh so THAT'S what happened to Roger!! Whenever the Death status bar fill up, that's the animation for it. That's why when you meet him in the round table hold afterwards, he is crippled and there are vines of death root in his legs if you angle the camera just right!!

[@deadmedowns]

Rogier's death animation is what happens when you die from the death affliction.

[@aranthur]

There is also a seal and prayer book of the godskin apostles hidden away in Stormveil. Maybe Godrick studied those in order to skin Godwyn before he fled the capital, hoping to graft the flesh to himself to gain the power of a "trueborn heir" like hes always so obsessed with. The skin was too cursed though and started growing all those thorny vines that are tearing the castle apart, so he just tried to cover it up after that and keep anyone from finding it

[@_ramnik5]

My speculation: You can see signs of death-corruption on the surface at each deathroot/mariner area as well as a particular giant crab at the outer moat in Lyndell. To me they seem like mini husks sprouting out of the ground/forming on the crab's body, especially the fact the eyes have the same soulless look as Godwyns corpse. I find it curious that Godwyn's body is essentially a giant Basilisk.. maybe the corpses naturally take the shape of an outer god of death? Who just so happens to look like Basilisks (who spew death curse)

[@derrick7369]

Wouldn't that be the second time we've seen man into Serpent, just like Prelate? Could it be he intended to follow in Godwyn's footsteps the face has slight similarities I think.

[@pepega8198]

the greatsword grave text near leyndell also says that, during war with dragons, godwyn was strong enough to slay fortisaxx, then became friends with him, leading to the dragon cult

[@shogomakishima7224]

I think Fia is responsible for what happened to Rogier. Rogier bloodstain animation is the same as the one the player have when he dies to the death blight. When Fia kills D his body has those roots coming out of it that also are visible when the player dies to the death blight. Also when we defeat Fia's champions we obtain a spell called Fia's Mist with the following decryption: "Sorcery of Fia, the Deathbed Companion. Creates a deathly mist before the caster, which inflicts Death blight upon those who enter. This sorcery can be cast while in motion. Charging enhances range of the mist. This sorcery was developed to oppose the Roundtable Hold, and is effective only against the Tarnished" There is also some other small stuff suggesting it like some of the Rogier dialogue: "Half my body has been suffused with Death" which refers to the death blight status effect.

[@juniebugbear]

I think it’s more likely he was corrupted and killed by the deathblight from his contact with Godwyn’s corpse underneath storm veil rather then Fia herself being responsible. She is shown to be kind of a friend to Rogier since they are both sympathetic towards those who live in Death. I think it’s natural that the deathbed companion can wield the deathblight as well but that doesn’t necessarily make her responsible for his death.

[@playa1877]

What's extra sad is Rogier becomes one of her champions after he is death blighted.

[@grif419]

She has no reason to know that rogier was investigating godwyns husk. All that we know for sure is that the mere contact with Goldwyn triggered death blight within rogier

[@shogomakishima7224]

@@grif419 I might be. It is just a theory of mine so it isn't anything certain but: - No matter what we as a player do Godwyn corpse doesn't attack us and produces no deathblight. His soul is gone so Godwyn is more of a force of nature then a cautious being. He doesn't do anything... just spreads through the root system and blocks souls from returning to the Eardtree. - Fia would know where Rogier was heading. He confides to her as it is apparent by us fighting his doll when we find Fia in the Deeproot Depths.

[@wilburforce8046]

While watching this video I just figured out why Godwyn looks like a mixture of so many creatures when he’s deformed. He’s been buried under the Erdtree, in the roots of the crucible. The crucible is theorized to be an old tree that was taken over by the alien parasite Elden beast. The crucible is responsible for old life in the world before the greater will. For example, demi-humans are old life that are a mixture of creatures. Look at misbegotten. So Godwyn becomes a deformed fish looking mixture because he’s been placed at the source of the crucible, that being the old tree in Deeproot. You should really cover the Crucible more it really changes things, like how Miquella’s tree looks more like the old tree and somehow attracts demihumans and ants, both creatures from the era before the greater will.

[@edsol335]

You're reading too much into it. Miyazaki was inspired by the dream of a Fisherman's Wife painting. You can see the implied parallel between dead godwyn and fia

[@notbrandon721]

I think his lower half was always fish because the opening cutscenes didn't show his legs and neither did the story trailer.

[@wilburforce8046]

@@edsol335 Godwyn has more going on then just the fish so even if I drop that part, theory still stands. Also the crucible knights have a lot to do with the roots of the old tree it’s not that far fetched to suggest Godwyn might have changed a little due to being buried in that one place that has everything to do with the the crucible lore.

[@ezaf5989]

@@wilburforce8046 no surprise someone with an anime child pfp is this stupid…

[@hellboy6536]

@@notbrandon721 seriously? Why would he have fish legs?

[@theblackbaron4119]

After I found the radagon statue in my first playthrough and used law of regression on it, ever since I have been spamming it on every statue, weird corpse and door in hopes to find a secret. I'm going to add the sword aswell to my systematic search.

[@KayceeDhee]

Loving your lore videos! I noticed the same husk at Rannis true bodies site where you see her flesh. Also, the animation on Rogiers bloodstain is the animation on what happens to your character when affected by death from the npcs in the game

[@codyshoemaker5404]

In the opening cut scene of the night of the black knives. I’ve always thought it looked more like a sacrifice instead of the murder it portrays

[@grif419]

Well it’s both, just like how ancient residents of Mexico like the aztecs forcefully sacrificed people to the gods.

[@redpandamilk268]

What happens to Rioger looks like what happens when you get death blighted

[@PMAxKOTF]

I didn’t find/start the death quest line until Rogier told me to find Renna. Just seems like there’s a lot of connection between Fia, those who live in death, Renna and Melina. Also Rogier’s death animation from the blood animation happens to the player also when you get the instant death status or death blight

[@poweredbythemakyostar8896]

I think Godwyn would have been the true/The elden lord they needed if he wasn't murdered I feel like his death really changed things Its claimed so many times that everyone loved him😭

[@biggiecheese726]

The running theory is that since Marika’s his mother, and since incest is kind of bad, Marika planned on having the only Empyrean not related to her, Ranni, take over as the vessel of the Elden Ring. Ranni probably learned of this somehow and killed two birds with one stone

[@maxsun13]

@@biggiecheese726 I like this theory dude

[@samnorris6533]

​@@biggiecheese726 underrated as fuck comment, would explain why she was so chill giving up her body too, maybe that part was non-negotiable either way? Interesting

[@Insert_Here]

@@biggiecheese726 Awesome theory! 👍

[@monroerobbins7551]

@@biggiecheese726would explain a lot, especially since Ranni technically has the same goal as Marika: screw over the Greater Will.

[@stumpand]

What's happening for Rogier looks like the Death status effect. When your meter fills all the way up a spikey thing impales you and lifts you off the ground.

[@Sai-bm8hj]

Poor Godwyn. When I first found out his soul died, I wondered if there was any way the elden beast could possibly bring him back ??

[@emanueldargan]

This might be late but miquella was going to bring him back during the eclipse a place where you can revive the dead souls of demi Gods but was halted because general radahn counquered the stars halting the process so he sent malenia to kill radahn but he was captured by Mogh

[@bakedgoods9182]

@@emanueldargan and since we killed Radahn, maybe the dlc will be Miquella trying to find Godwyns soul in the land of shadow

[@emanueldargan]

@@bakedgoods9182 hopefully

[@keroppiix]

2:27 this animation is the animation which plays when a player dies of the status ailment, Death. I’m sure you knew that and I’m sure other people knew it as well, but I wanted to share since my brain makes me share

[@matf6661]

The Rogier death animation is the same one that happens when you die of "Death" status filling up with all the deathroots taking you

[@adamkorzon2972]

His soul is separated from the body,spirit never dies.Fia can speak with him apparently.

[@saeyabor]

Godwyn is effectively a zombie with what D&D calls "Divine Rank." IMO, Ranni chose him to receive the "soul portion" of her Cursemark because he was _such a powerful champion._ She didn't do this as anything so petty as an insult to the Golden Order, but because, as an Empyrean, her goal was always to create her own order _but not simply succeed Marika._ The Golden Order had to be actually defeated for that to happen, which may have been impossible with Godwyn alive.

[@dawnyzero0]

This kinda gives me an idea for a DLC Boss So, because Godwyn is literally just this empty body now, still "Alive" but for all purposes, the being that was Godwyn is dead. So, imagine that regardless of the ending you chose, whether you went with Ranni or took the throne or whatever. The **Greater Will** don't like it, it doesn't like you. Maybe you're a temporary fix as a lord, Or if you went against the Order for whatever ending you've chosen. So, the DLC brings an entirely new area, adding to the map. A *New* Erdtree is plunged into the world to challenge you, carrying new kinds of Star-Beasts, Holy Valkyrie-like warriors that embody pure Order, Fae spirits and stuff. New enemies. You fight to get to the top of the Tree as it pierces the heavens Reaching the top of the new Erdtree, you find a huge arena and another of the weird.. Godwyn-shell root things. As you enter the arena, the shell hangs suspended in the highest branches, Alive. Stars of light and space flow into it. The shell rips free, golden leaves making up its hair as it crawls, long arms dragging its body as the lower half forms into the fish-like tail. The soul of Godwyn may be dead, but the form is more than enough to be a tool for the Greater Will. It's A Last Ditch Plan the Greater Will has, before you reach it. The empty vessel of the Former Demi-God breathes, deathblight flowing as it mindlessly charges you. The Music Starts, The Health bar and its name appears "The Golden Husk"

[@Aldoz]

Godwyn was Balder, but when he died he turned into Nidhogg :D

[@mmandible5470]

Ngl night of the black knives kinda just sounds like every night in london

[@rzbertolli5983]

Godwyn could have easily been a vessel instead of mohg since Godwyn is soulless but im sure miquela was like ew he needs a proper death.

[@silenthill4]

Surprised nobody has commented about the giant that fell and got stuck between the mountains near the fire giant

[@46Q_7]

Shadow of the Erdtree will bring upon an eclipse, with the coming of the eclipse brings the resurrection of Godwyn the Golden. Sleep, Death, and Rot will all be important factors in the DLC. Idk just a theory

[@peterconigliaro200]

Never noticed the bloodstain. It all adds up, though. Rogiere did say he was searching for something he believed to be in the castle, and the next time you see him, you're pit against him as you cut down Fia's champions. Never knew how he wound up there, so thanks for clearing that up

[@caffeinechaos1334]

In the opening cinematic, Godwyn is shown getting killed. He is not brutally murdered in a battle. He was held and stabbed once in the back ceremoniously. I think he gave himself to the cause but I don't think he planned on becoming a living curse of the Lands Between.

[@grif419]

Of all the demigods, Godwyn is one of them who has the least valid reason to ever betray the golden order.

[@jackour8167]

​@@grif419Which only makes him more of an ass, considering the inhumanities that the Golden Order encourages.

[@TheAerogost]

a year later and the thumbnail is still misspelled, keep doing god work

[@monroerobbins7551]

Actually, I think Godwyn’s spirit is still in his body; when you attack Fía when she’s with Godwyn, she actually says “Godwyn, is that you?” I don’t think she’s delusional, nor do I think she’s taking advantage. I think she just wants what’s best for those living in death, like Godwyn, and is therefore using her powers as a deathbed companion to restore his strength.

[@trevorv7868]

When I stopped by the church of pilgrimage there is a statue of godwyn and the ghost says the soulless demigod, marikas unwanted son. Damn man poor godwyn.

[@jiketagg4251]

There’s a second husk directly to the left of his body on the roots of the Erdtree

[@chungbung2022]

when i saw rogiers bloodstain, my first thought was that he got stabbed, and then lifted with the blade, i thought that was why he was in the wheelchair bcuz stabbed thru the back

[@Agentlefox]

So looking at the ancient Elden Ring Rune in Farum Azula and comparing it to the complete rune of death, my hypothesis is that the roots or tendrils coming from the ancient rune are actually the "legs" of the centipedes that make up destined death. I think its the same number of tendrils, and honestly, it would make sense as it was built into the order before Marika decided she didn't want it. It would also add extra context to the roots of deathblight and Godwyn extending throughout the Lands Between in its corruption instead of being the base of all things. Tangentially, I also think that the reason that the crucible is the embodiment of that previous order is because of ties to evolution. A sort of primordial drive for the new to replace the old with more fantastical and beastly enhancements to compete with the wilds of an "untamed" world. Without death as a base to return to both spiritually and materially, that can't happen. Resources dwindle, power grows stagnant, and the world starts to decay without death, Or you know, rot. Now, with the complete rune of death extending outwardly instead of down, it would infect everything else and force the consumption of those that came before and a much more insidious evolution would instead ensue. One in which death is the time and place for one to evolve and grow more powerful. An order where death is ever present, even in life itself.

[@OliverRehn]

I really do hope future DLC explain more about both Miquella and Godwyn, as they are probably the two most mysterious characters in the games lore and thus some of the most interesting to me!

[@mitrimind1027]

The way Roger is dying is the same as what happens when you get afflicted with deathblight and that appears to be what he is suffering from when you meet him at the round table.

[@idlehour]

I found 3 eyes where fias quest ends. To the left of the body if you stand a bit away you can see there are 3 eyes with a spiral design. Its not too hsrd to find if you see it its on the elevated level to left of him.

[@vagelismihalis7426]

Godwyn became a monstrous mermaid,very interesting

[@eddiejin9211]

You can find his face grown on Crabs right above his resting place above ground

[@mrsmartypants4541]

Huh, using Goldmasks rune removes gods, does it go against the fingers too I wonder. Greater will is just an outer god, would it make it so the world is free from outside influence? Is Goldmasks rune the answer to what Ranni tried to achieve? Sever the connection between herself and the Greater will? I need to look into this stuff.

[@Vini-zv3lr]

The Virgin ''kill you brother and yourself and destory the world order to make a new one'' Ranni vs Chad ''set the universe back on track with the sheer power of meditation' Goldmask

[@TheSmolPrince]

Goldmask's rune doesn't remove the gods, it simply puts forth the Tarnished as the sole power in the lands Between, and patches up the flaws in the Golden Order and the Erdtree. The Mending Rune of Order was "rediscovered," by Goldmask, he didn't create it, which means that it likely gives power back to the Greater Will.

[@bluepower1177]

Been really enjoying these lore videos. Subscribed last week keep ‘em comin my man 🤙🏼

[@alexanderthegreat1519]

Also that " cape " you can see where that fish tail is , it is the exact one godwin has when he dies in the trailer

[@AugustoXRock]

I think Godwyn died because the other demigods available were Ranni's siblings, we have to remember that Morgott and Mohg were still imprisioned below the capital, so officially, Godwyn was the ONLY son of Marika and Godfrey. This could tell us a little bit about Ranni's character, if anything.

[@Thefunnycustodian]

I find the whole thing about Goldwyn to be very interesting cuss even tho we know what happened to him with him being killed by the black knifes we still don't really know what's up with him and I like that

[@theplaguepimp8721]

Okay I have a theory. So we have a outer god of rot and blood so what if there's an outer god of death and using a finished needle of Miquella we can revert Godwyn back into his old state of luscious locks and muscly body in a future DLC.

[@benjaminbierbaum8959]

I wonder if Godrick the grafted attempted to graft Godwyn

[@hylianchriss]

Rogier gets attacked by the tentacles. If you talk to him at the Roundtable Hold right after this, he says something along the lines of "You found it too, huh? [...] I can now finally confirm my theories [...] I got mortally wounded by it. I guess you shouldn't disturb its tentacles". That thing sure seems like a lifeless husk when we are there. But it most definitely was in some stage of "alive" when Rogier was there, whether conscious or just "muscle spasms", one of those tentacles stabbed our boy good.

[@DallyLama93]

Isn't the Death ending technically good? Because before that nobody could actually die, but with the rune of death added back into the ring now people can die again.

[@BabyKrogan]

IMO the face under the castle is the skin that has been removed from the skull which is attached to the rest of the body in the roots.

[@giancarlos1798]

Godwyn would be that type of fellow to comfort you at the tavern after achieving no maidens

[@boio_thedudeman1925]

Title: What happened to Godwyn Me: He died. (Roll credits while the full house intro plays)

[@njb982]

I love this channel already, can’t wait to watch all these lore videos

[@CamkinNexus]

I just want to know why Ranni didn't just do what Sellen did. Why did she have to start the night of black knives? Is there a reason she couldn't just have someone transfer her spirit like Sellen did, or did she want Godwyn dead? If the latter, Why?

[@lambdaweaponscache5394]

Just visually alone Godwyns fate is so fascinating in conjunction with the wider Elden Ring lore, his body not trying dying and growing into a huge, megamycetic monstrosity.

[@SandyCheeks1896]

Heard a theory that the black knife’s target was Marika, but when they arrived to kill her Marika was away acting as Radagon. It would have been perfect for Ranni to leave Marika’s body alive as a husk that would make usurping the golden order wash, and it would provide her with a soul to offer in conjunction with her own body as a sacrifice to death as to free herself from the greater will. Not only that, Marika’s body wild immediately be available for Ranni to perhaps occupy, but that is my own on the spot speculation. However, the black knives discovered Marika was absent, but still needed to kill Godwyn because the plan was already in motion and Ranni was burning her own body in that very moment. Ranni’s plan was meant to bring her into power immediately, not leave her stranded in a doll.

[@bjarnivalur6330]

If you check out Godwyns body, he kinda looks like a giant basilisk but with a blighted head. Don't know if this has any lore relevance, just cool to notice.

[@PatrickGillen-d7u]

Ayeeee I saw those eyes, what up my fellow lord of frenzied flame brotha😂

[@handgun559]

God dang Rogier's death is intense. Looks like when you get death blighted.

[@tcdtboc8551]

I think rani should have offed godrick instead she offed godwyn basically nameless king. Anyone who likes dragons is cool in my book dang frost witch.

[@klaimhoper]

Godrick was probably still in his mothers womb when she did that.

[@derrick7369]

@@klaimhoper Grafted womb?

[@tcdtboc8551]

@@klaimhoper I'm not sure though because even though its stated he is a distant descendant. Its stated godwyn was the first of the (demigods) to die, meaning there were others to choose from. To be fair though her entire necessacity of killing another demigod at the same time is horribly skewed. It's never really stated why when two die simultaneously that one's body dies while another's soul dies.

[@jatwood9648]

Rogier's death animation is the same as when the player is hit by death blight. Interesting because there are no death blight clouds in the area. So, what did he do to trigger this, and can the player trigger this on themselves?

[@Cyrus-rodn45]

Nobody has testes that

[@Kn1ghtborne]

I think we can Rogier urges us not to disturb the corpse more than necessary Which insinuates there's a way to trigger it to do something

[@grif419]

It’s implied that him merely inspecting the husk of Godwyn caused his death blight.

[@alexkaen1701]

Of all the creatures in Elden Ring, Godwyn is starting to resemble the tangled squids. Is it possible that, through death of the spirits, the tangled squids are created? They definitely resemble the thorns draped from Godwyn's husk beneath Stormveil

[@166plastik]

If you play with camera in roundtable hold in room where Rogier resides you can see his legs pierced by black roots and hear flies buzzing...

[@betamax1828]

I think marika was somehow also involved with the night of black knives and helped orchestrate godwyns death. The mausoleums seem to be tied to him with headless spirit knights guarding them, the power to restore remembrances, the fact they are tombs to the dead and the talking spirit next to the weeping peninsula mausoleum talks about an unwanted son

[@notjosh334]

the blood stain animation is the same as when you are afflicted with the death status effect

[@SirSerious111]

Dang you went from 3000 to 35,000 in a month Congrats bro🔥

[@alessandrocejwokkkk]

I think that body is the one from the bloodstain guy. Godwyn infects the erdtree, this infection spreads and when the person dies it becomes like Godwyn

[@Rylus571]

Between godwyn and the scarlet rott perhaps the frenzy flame is a mercy killing, a way to wipe the slate clean and have destined death pave that way by removing you from the picture.

[@kuuhakukeisukekazuyuki1854]

the bloodstain of rogier!!! the action is when you are blighted by death

[@Pie_Smacker]

I assume Marika and Ranni decided to kill him because it was necessary. While I would like to think Marika was a normal mother who would do everything for her children, we have to keep in mind that she doubts the GW above all. She willingly sent her first husband and his armies away to die and later resurrect as a tool to aid her cause, her own assassins (which still guard her chambers and places of importance) were used to assassinate her own kid, she was conveniently missing during the Night of the Black Knives, willingly let her Omen children be shackled beneath the capital (including allowing all other Omen and Crucible creatures be imprisoned and lowered to 2nd class citizens, at best), and she willingly unearthed the Rune of Death solely to her benefit and no one else's. I like to believe that Godwyn was her beloved child in the beginning, especially during the war given how much he had won for her, but as she begins to uncover more secrets of the GW, has Ranni (who convenes with the moon and understands the stars far better than anyone else) in her council after Radagon joins her as consort, etc, she had to have given the go ahead to kill Godwyn. Shattering the Elden Ring is a pretty extreme thing to do just because her child dies, wouldn't it make more sense to hunt down the killers? Why go into the place where she knows the Elden Beast will retaliate, where she knows Radagon will be sealed away with her, and shatter the one thing that will inevitably lead to total war and chaos? Even if she didn't want to, her own personal Numen were involved in the killing of her son and still stay by her bedchambers and other important sites, so I can easily see his death being a necessary sin.

[@Lightsaber_boi]

Roger got beaten by a worm face, he mentions how he lost grace due to whatever happened to him. Based on the animation and what is known about worm faces it’s reasonable that that bloodstain is his encounter with a worm face

[@maxhilton325]

in case you didn't already know by now - The description fo the Mending Rune of Perfect Order refers to literally the Outer Gods, not the demigods. Goldmask realized that the Outer Gods' struggle for power over the lands between was the root of everything: Marika, the Shattering, the Elden Ring, Destined Death, the Frenzied Flame, the Erdtree, etc.

[@DS_Sword]

We don't really know what it means to have no soul in elden ring. It is possible godwyn still maintains a will but does not communicate in traditional manner. He can still dream after all.

[@zviyeri9117]

Rogier was Death Blighted, it's the same animation

[@jortharob3406]

I dont think Fia is taking advantage of him its more like she trying to birth him a new body without it being mangled and D dosent want that as it goes against the Golden order. Only the Erdtree can give new life

[@dough254]

Omg I never knew. I always thought Godwyn was just a throwaway character and didn’t have as much lore . I used to wonder what he did before the he died. This is crazy cool how he is them husks

[@Focus716]

First 👀 love da lore vids and speculation mane!

[@this_is_japes7409]

0:52 see that thank you is way more effective than trying to guilt trip your audience into subscribing because of percentages.

[@Anubis82]

I think the bloodstain that shows Rogier - same animation as when you get blight at max and die. Rogier however appears at the roundtable with his lower body being full of blight as opposed to seeing him the first time standing on his two feet in stormveil castle. So approaching the husk in stormveil castle got him 'blighted'? but only his lower half. Maybe thats why he says exercise caution if you approach it when you ask him in roundtable hold about the husk? Cool video man

[@noahcostalez7979]

Rodgers death is the deathblight animation. Looks like he was impaled by the thorns by the deathblight.

[@shogomakishima7224]

This Destined Death is connected to the Godskin Apostles: "The apostles, one said to serve Destined Death, are wielders of the god-slaying black flame. But after their defeat by Maliketh, the Black Blade, the source of their power was sealed away." "The black flame could once slay gods. But when Maliketh sealed Destined Death, the true power of the black flame was lost." Noticed how Maliketh sealed the "Destined Death" while the Mending Rune of the Death-Prince mentions that : "The Golden Order was created by confining Destined Death" There are also the descriptions of the Queen that led the apostles: "The Gloam-Eyed Queen led the apostles. It is said that she was an Empyrean chosen by the Fingers." "The Gloam-Eyed Queen cradles newborn apostles swaddled in this cloth. Soon they will grow to become the death of the gods." "Sacred sword of the Dusk-Eyed Queen who controlled the Godskin Apostles before her defeat at the hands of Maliketh. The black flames wielded by the apostles are channeled from this sword." Tbh I am not sure what to think of it.

[@24Samash]

The wizard died because of deathblight, that is why after getting to the roundtable hold he is rooting from inside. And about the thing found entangled in the roots of the deeproots I think its related to the essence of the primeval tree getting through the empty (not dead) body of Godwyn and it is proliferating somehow. It has basilisk like hands, fish tail, a clamp as a head, and that disturbing face shaped thing like it is depicting that the essence of life is manifestating through the vessel of a demigod's empty body. Godwyn as Ranni, isn't dead and I think that is key to this, as well as the crucible knight around the place. There are few weird questions like the following wich I consider that need to be responded. Why Godwyn's corpse would lie there and not in the royal capital? When he was brandished with the name of Prince of Death, was it before or after his murder?

[@tingliestlasagna2495]

that isn't godwyn's corpse, his is the giant distorted body in the deeproot depths, this is just one of the many imitation faces that form from the deathroot corruption.

[@togan6569]

If you attack fia death skulls get sent out and she says "Godwyn is that you"

[@seanfritz6151]

The one below the castle looks to be just his flesh . The one at the roots looks like its been flayed.

[@haroonqureshi3978]

I disagree, i think that the tree fia is lying under is of course godwyns body but the body under stormveil is one of the world serpents from dark souls, who guide all of dark souls events and lore (fraampt or kaathe). now the deathblight or root (forgot exact name) is on a sword in game and only affects tarnished and blooms exactly how rogier was affected. What that means maybe is that the status effect came from the body of the world serpent although in farum azula at the edges u meet those weird serpent like enemies who have the same ability. It might once again be the Manus bloodline and its cursed power that began marikas plan when she realized a way to defeat the greater will by relying on destined death (which could be a remnant of the abyss power of Manus). Lastly Fia ending talks about age of dusk born and the Princess related to Manus was called Dusk of Oolacile.

[@PotaroAK47]

Man that radahn video kill me. I love it. Please keep doing this.

[@Ollywood9604]

The bloodstain animation looks like the backstab animation from the dark night assasins

[@TheMATEMAGICIAN]

why did he turn into a merman? l can't seem to find lore videos discussing the reason his body adopted that particular form

[@DrGuyPHD]

Godywns lore, as the prince of death, is one of the most interesting lore bits in Elden ring.

[@KenobiStark1]

Honestly doing Godwyn like that is just perfect, I mean I’ve tried to think on the details of one living in death, does he feel pain? The pain of not being able to breath or eat or drink. His body rotting and becoming stagnant. I would like to see as many details about him as possible.

[@serkusventus]

2:21 that the deathblight dying animation