What Happened to Golden Sun?

[@PressStartToContinueYT]

Thanks for checking out a video about the long forgotten golden sun today! Do you ever think they’ll reboot the series or is it dead forever? Let me know in the comments below! EDIT: Yes I am aware I said Takahashi worked on Final Fantasy while at ENIX, I understand this was before the Square merger so it was not possible. It was a flub on my part :)

[@OOO-hb3vx]

This game is an ABSOLUTE MASTERPIECE from my childhood

[@OOO-hb3vx]

-although it's rare, i was glad to finally able to see this game from the list of gba games recommendation videos this past year :))

[@ShadowWolfRising]

We in the era of "Fuck it, I'll do it myself!", I can see a revival or spiritual sequel popping up in the future. We are getting a spiritual sequel to friggin Suikoden for craps sake!

[@Chakra1412]

Camelot did say they would work to continue the series if the demand was there and if Nintendo was open to it. So as long as we can continue to show our interest and support. There's always hope for it to return. I would love to see Golden Sun rise again.

[@royshaheer]

Frankly this one at one time was peak interest I only managed to play a portion of the first game via Emulation since I never could afford one and boy was I happy to see this video since Did you know gaming on this one.

[@GamePatter]

The first Golden Sun is actually the reason I met my best friend. I heard him mention it in English class in school back in 2003 and because I was also playing it we struck up a conversation about it. 18 years later we’re still best friends, I’ve been the best man at his wedding and he’s going to be best man at mine. This game has always meant a lot to me because of this.

[@weejoegreen]

😉

[@flewis02]

That's amazing bro, I've always believed that games bring ppl together as it did for me and my cousins, brother and various friends over the years

[@bsus1412]

Almost exact same story for me, except it was one year after yours, hanging out in the library behind the stacks with two other friends (with whom I’ve done my best to maintain the friendships), and it was his engagement party that I flew out to attend.

[@sleepdiesel232]

That's beautiful

[@matthall113]

I met my partner because of this game! Been together for 17 years. Was actually playing this last night too haha

[@elfiebranford9330]

As weird as this may sound, the one thing that was always really a standout to me about Golden Sun was the battle system, mostly just because the camera turned between parties. I dunno, I just always found that super cool to me lol.

[@PressStartToContinueYT]

Me too!

[@iennefaLsh]

It's probably even worth playing just for that. Golden Sun's battle screen really is a one of a kind.

[@dejectedraven5592]

Personally, i never really enjoyed turn-based games but GS was the first time i found one exciting to play

[@MathGeekQ]

Woah you hit the nail on the head! GS was the first RPG i played, and FFIV was the second one. And even though FFIV was on the DS, at times it felt inferior ... And that's why! Most other RPGs on the GBA and even on the DS don't have that dynamic camera during battles. Hell, the attacks don't even make contact with the enemies!

[@dejectedraven5592]

@@MathGeekQ The djinn system was also really dope

[@Dzzy123]

With the success of Xenoblade and Fire Emblem, now is as good a time as any to revive the Golden Sun series.

[@miniandrewmini1]

And hopefully shining force!

[@DEM94]

I don't think so. Considering the disappointing DS game and the today's standards in difficulty and story in this type of games, I'd rather have the first two games as a great memory of this saga than getting another game and be disappointed once more.

[@Dzzy123]

@@DEM94 A remake akin to what we're getting with Advance Wars could be nice.

[@brandonwilliams6119]

Starfox also deserves another chance too without being tied to a gimmicky feature that’s forced.

[@matthall113]

Oh god i hope so!

[@stalhein62]

Stay strong, my friends, the Golden Sun will rise again!

[@yarimuchi7864]

One day, this drought of Golden Sun games will end as Camelot will unseal the game developing lighthouses of Weyard

[@bradleychaves9]

¹

[@avenell6553]

Suikoden....

[@PMTojoHideki]

Probably when Im dead

[@DnVFMVs]

The immortal rock chuckles

[@christianmullen9342]

I found The Lost Age in a closet of a house we moved into, I was very young at the time so I didn't know was it was, only that it looked neat. Some time after that I got my first DS, it wasn't long until I realized there was a place where it could fit, and when I did that I was completely blown away, I played the game a lot, so glad I found it in that closet and hanged on to it lol, what were the chances

[@PressStartToContinueYT]

that's a cool story!

[@AntonarTheRed]

That’s badass

[@somerandomguy4281]

Feel bad for the poor soul that left that masterpiece behind.

[@forestlink6673]

That's destined for u to play it imagine that

[@yeahman6907]

Funnily enough. Dark Dawn was the first game of the series that I bought and played. I saw it in a Gamestop and it seemed interesting. Fell in love with it and a few months after I beat Dark Dawn, I bought the first two games. If only another 700,000 more people had the same experience as me :'(

[@PressStartToContinueYT]

AGREED

[@bunnyrabbitlives]

That's the first game I got too.

[@SHNorria]

Same for me. But in my case i saw a ad for dark dawn on tv and fell in love with the djinn and needed it, went back for the other 2 games years later. golden sun has been one of my fav series since then. TnT

[@joegreen3802]

Dark Dawn was the first for me as well. I loved it and wanted to try the GBA games once I finished it. Sadly with the prices, I had to emulate it at first, but eventually I was able to get physical copies of both.

[@PMTojoHideki]

GS part 1 is my 1st GS, but in an emulator

[@TheDeathwhish]

The Summon risk vs reward system was my favorite part of Golden Sun. I hope to get at least a collection for the Switch soon.

[@straypaper]

Sadly in all three games summons became just a gimmick. You either use it to summon rush the boss down, or you just attack like normal. I know they were supposed to give battles a sense of fluctuation between massive Djinn unleash phase, summon phase, and then defensive phase until your Djinni are done recovering. But the stat gap between Djinn on and Djinn off is just too great to justify using summon separately and not as a summon rush tactic. The stat gap and the class system is also another reason why summoning is just not a sustainable gimmick. Yes the tri-element classes are powerful, but once you use Granite to survive an attack, you're screwed down to some random low tier class. Of course everyone is going to go mono element because of that. In fact, the Djinn unleash is the more dominant aspect of the gameplay for me. They all have unique effects and you need to distribute them to certain characters based by their speed to minmax your party and enable strategies. If I'm forced to choose between using multi-element classes but locking me out of using Djinn, summoning Judgment but turning my Isaac and Felix into a wimp for the next 3 turns, or using mono-element classes and using Djinni as a toolbox I can unleash and set reliably, guess which tactic I'm going to utilize?

[@aessa8440]

@@straypaper As a child though, it didn't feel like just a gimmick. On the last boss of the second game it took me literally a few tries to understand what I'm trying to do when using my djinn and create duo-element classes to force myself into positions where I can manipulate my characters to both not just die from the last boss's attack sequences, but also do enough damage to kill the thing without having all of my characters die. Nowadays, Plexa and other big speedrunners for the game trivialize the combat, but it was addictingly fun and interesting when first encountered.

[@Rainhands22]

There was no risk to summons, it made the game incredibly easy unless you were fighting a boss.

[@Progeusz]

@@straypaper except mono element classes are among the weakest lol both in PvE and PvP when i was a dumb kid i did stick to mono element classes but as i learned more about game's mechanics it became obvious it's not the way to go, the difference in performance is staggering and i can't go back to playing mono classes You can still use Djinni as other classes, it's just that you have to use your brain while doing it - but quite often you don't even need to because the dual and tri element classes are so much more powerful in both sheer stats and stronger, more varied and available earlier psynergies. Personally i loved dual elemental classes the most which means having most Djinni in the synergistic element while only some of your own - 6+1 or 7+2 - to be precise, it was Brute and Sage lines. Especially in TLA and DD where equipment and weapons were much more powerful.

[@zelestyblizzerii2033]

brooooo you totally get it , that's the reason this game was so amazing imho , you on your bed and then a challenge appeared , but you have that one awesome summon and you dont know if you'l defeat the enemy with that summon , but still alot of you guys just wanted to see the awesome summon cutscene (guilty) mannn when games were fun *sadface*

[@recht_voor_zijn_raap5506]

Golden Sun was easily my favourite GBA game (and I count both titles as 1 game because it was made to be one but split because of memory limitations) Easily one of the best JRPGS of all time. Dark Dawn was awesome too (allthough not as great as the GBA game) and I'm still waiting to the resolution of that cliffhanger ending.

[@Tryagainwithadifferentname123]

As a fan if traditional RPGs I find it kinda sad not a lot of people enjoy them as much anymore.

[@captin3149]

I loved my copy of Golden Sun. Sadly my Gameboy got stolen and the game was in it at the time.

[@michaelclifton9498]

Same, i didn't grow with these older JRPGs but i was still able to enjoy playing though the 1st three dragon quest games(haven't beaten the 3rd one yet) . I hope there'll be either ports or new games for seris like golden sun,breath of fire, and phantasy star. Mainly a new game for phantasy star since you can buy the 1st game for switch in the nintendo E shop and the other 3 are featured in sega genesis classics

[@watchingmysunset]

Once you finish the first game, lookout how to get the passcode to move your character stats and items to the sequel

[@straypaper]

To be fair GS can get pretty monotone if you insist on playing on mono-element class. I'm sure by Doom Dragon every player is going to use Felix with Sol Blade, Isaac with Gaia Blade, Jenna with whatever, and Ivan with whatever. Felix is going to spam unleash Megiddo, Isaac is going to spam Titan Blade or just cast Odyssey, Jenna is going to spam Cool Aura, and Ivan is just there to put High Impact up and then defending. Same thing with Dark Dawn but replace the party with Matthew, Sveta, Karis, and Rief. There's just not many optimal setup unless you're willing to go tri-element and lock yourself out of using Djinn. If only using Djinn doesn't change class mid battle, I'm sure GS would be more variable in party build.

[@typicalswine7779]

@@straypaper I actually preferred Amiti over Rief. I would typically keep Tyrell in my party as a ronin, Matthew as a ninja, Karis as my heal support as a sorceress (whatever the actual title is using Jupiter and mercury djinn) running fresh wind whenever somebody got low, and finally Amiti as a Guru for offensive spell support. There's A lot of variety to play style available, it's just a matter of whether you want to play how you want or just focus on the purely "strongest" team

[@moseslalmuanpuia8988]

Mathew, tyrel and karis are still looking at the large synergy vortex 🤣

[@thaumatomane]

I... I always liked the dialogue... It was like an interactive book! 💖 I sincerely hope that they bring it back.

[@skullslace2426]

Yeah, me too. I felt it made the characters so much more interesting. And the shock when Isaac was talking in GS2. My friend beat GS1 before me, as she was the one who introduced me to the game, and I remember us sitting together during lunch break and she would show me the one time in GS1, at the end, where Isaac actually gets a dialogue pop up XD

[@BigBadWolframio]

I liked that it was dialogue heavy. I love reading, after all... But it is true that replaying it as an adult made me realise a lot of the dialogues where a bit silly out redundant... However, that doesn't mean that they couldn't create an awesome, engaging dialogue-heavy new game! 😋 The Pillars of Eternity and Divinity: Original Sin games are full of text, but are also fully dubbed, which can help to those who can't or don't want to read that much!

[@delmarquisclark1590]

Golden Sun needs to come back. Dark Dawn left SO MANY questions especially about the Tuaparang Clan.. who are they?!

[@Seracf]

Some golden sun fans maked golden sun 4 themes and tbey named the golden sun 4 title "The Lunar Nation" .

[@kithkin01]

Dark dawn is dog shit and I refuse to accept it as anything but can fiction

[@TheSmuey]

To me, Golden Sun embodied everything I love in RPG's. Bought it when it originally came out and I spent hours playing it, trying to find all the Djinns and weapons. Could not believe what I saw when a follow up was released, let alone when it was THAT good. Sad to say I never got to play Dark Dawn since I didn't own a DS at that time, but a new installment in the series, man, I'm all for that!

[@Rainhands22]

I was a teenager when the first 2 games came out and loved them. Apart from Pokemon they were the first proper rpg's I'd ever played. Dark Dawn came out years later when I was in college/uni and I didn't even own a DS. In fact I had no idea it was even released at the time. It felt marketed towards a younger audience and I had no interest in playing especially because of the bad reviews. The first 2 will always be legendary.

[@hitkid2456]

Some of the first RPGs I owned! The SP came out a little after this, but I got the original model at the same time I got this. It was an absolute blast. I did later borrow DD from fam, but it just wasn't the same...

[@lefragrance777]

Golden Sun and Valkyrie Profile are two of my all-time favorite RPG franchises, and it breaks my heart that they don't make games for them anymore. I've been a huge fan of these series, and to this day, I still miss them. I find myself playing Fire Emblem a lot now since it's my favorite, but I can't help but dream of the day when Golden Sun and Valkyrie Profile make a comeback. They deserve it, and so do the fans!

[@MathGeekQ]

Now I'm hyped about an open world weyard. Imagine going around making vines grow, evaporating water, or moving objects at a distance with Tales Of type graphics

[@Sohendar]

Don't forget the best of them all: Reading NPC's thoughts Those were interesting and funny at times.

[@MathGeekQ]

@@Sohendar yeah! And animals too, that was hilarious and added a great touch.

[@kochitegaming4013]

Bro, greatest crossover of all time or future failed game? I’d love to see a Golden Sun x Tales Of crossover.

[@flowmmk7675]

Ahh don’t make me excited for things that will never happen 😭

[@tashakoh3157]

I’m happy to see that the Golden Sun fandom is still alive !

[@Leotsune]

Oooooh man the memories, I love Golden Sun and its really nice too see you made a video about this forgotten series. Iif Advanced Wars can get a remake so can Golden Sun!! Nintendo please make it happen!!!

[@PressStartToContinueYT]

We can only wish!

[@Arqit33]

I agree completly with you. Such an amazing series. Hope they bring it to Nintendo Switch one day

[@thatboiijohnny7133]

Shoot if they can remake a Pokémon game three times in 20 years there can be new game or at least a remake of one 😂

[@straightupanarg6226]

Alex does not "blur the lines between good and evil," from the start he's an ambitious psychopath who is only barely able to hide his true personality and motivation from Felix and crew. As a psychopath, he manipulates Felix's party into doing the work for them, and does not help at all. Golden Sun is FULL of situations where you are forced to sympathize with the enemy (the entire premise of the Lost Age is that you ARE the putative villains of the first game and opposed by that game's heroes, but we see that the motivations of Felix & co were good the entire time, and in the end he and Isaac, his nemesis, join forces.) This is NOT the case with Alex: on the contrary, we see Alex's behavior go from aloof and manipulative, to the final revelation of his true motivation at the Golden Sun event at Mt. Aleph that concludes Lost Age. Alex is granted immortality, indestructibility, and ultimate power. Then Mt. Aleph collapse on this psychopathic immortal, burying him under millions of tons of rock. Alex is the only character in the series (which is all about having sympathy for your enemy) who is truly and unambiguously evil, and it couldn't have happened to a nicer person. Its interesting that, Alex being the psychopatgic manipulator that he is, we never actually fight him in Lost Age: he actually appears to win, being "blessed" with power from the Golden Sun Event, only to be given his comeuppance by the Wise One. But to reiterate, Alex does _not_ "blur the lines between good and evil." He is the _only character in the series who is unambiguously evil._

[@SuperQuadocky]

Having played through Dark Dawn, the fact it was so incredibly easy is kind of bizarre given the original games on GBA were relatively challenging.

[@PressStartToContinueYT]

Yeah I personally thought it was too easy as well

[@joegreen3802]

Eh, there were a few difficult moments, but overall I didn't find the first two that hard. I actually beat the Doom Dragon on my first try, while I lost to the Chaos Chimera on the first run. (Then again, I was missing quite a bit of Djinn in that file)

[@Xale-yt]

@@joegreen3802 Dullahan in Dark Dawn was laughably easy compared to Lost Age.

[@joegreen3802]

@@Xale-yt Well, in my experience, the were about the same

[@CRT.v]

The thing that stuck out to me the most was how in Dark Dawn, if you had a character set to attack an enemy that a different character downed before their turn, they would attack a different enemy, whereas in the GBA games, that character would simply defend on their turn. It made battles that little bit less frustrating in that you were guaranteed to only defend of you chose to, but it also took out some of the planning of your turn in battle. I liked that I didn't have to essentially waste a character's turn, but it also messed with planning to take out the last enemy with an element it's weak to. Why was that the thing that stuck with me the most about battle differences? I don't know.

[@ValNikaVlogs]

Oh my goodness, I'm the Jenna in that cosplay photo at 11:16! I was so surprised to see our group. Golden Sun represent! The fandom will never die!

[@PressStartToContinueYT]

Yes! I wasn't sure you the cosplayers were because the website I retrieved the image from did not credit you! I will fix that in my video :)

[@cyber4382]

I still hope for GS 4 till today . Loved the video and the light you shed on it. Started a let’s play recently of the first game and loving the nostalgia

[@PressStartToContinueYT]

Thanks a lot, one day we may get our wish!

[@cyber4382]

@@PressStartToContinueYT 🤞🏻🤞🏻

[@mr.fearingtoon3549]

I’ve never played it, but I’ll sure give it a try through emulation!

[@sicurr1]

If you've ever played, and loved the classic Final Fantasy series, but love puzzles, and sneaky hidden things, then you'll love the Golden Sun franchise. I never got to play Dark Dawn, however I'm going to try to play it, but idk how well I'd like it from how some of my friends reviewed it to me. Either way, the first two games are master pieces, and I'm currently replaying the first game for a few hours every weekend. It's useful as my nice quiet time, and then I take a nap afterwards, lol.

[@nickk3077]

It’s very cheap on Wii U! I highly recommend buying it from there instead. The only exception is the DS game, which is a shame.

[@occamsaturn]

after ripping the rom from the copy you legally own, of course!

[@らいどう-c5m]

@@occamsaturn LMAO

[@TheMissingLink2]

You won't be disappointed.

[@TheTraderStan]

I'd much rather have a remake of the first two before they make a 4th. I believe that if that happens, much like what you said, more people may be drawn to the title.

[@Mac_Omegaly]

Absolutely. But more importantly let people play the orginal via Nintendo Switch Online.

[@jhaysonjoanino3779]

Same. A remake of the first. And after that maybe they can improve the 3rd one cause it was so easy

[@Rainhands22]

Agreed, I just pretend the 3rd game doesn't exist.

[@mechicanotv2751]

Golden Sun and Golden Sun 2 were my favorite games as a kid. God I hope for a re-release or a 4th installment of the game!

[@draconk]

I wish they made a full blown remake merging the first two games making you change parties after the Venus lighthouse with intermissions to see what Isaac party was doing while Felix was doing the whole go to Lemuria thing

[@danielsmith5032]

It was hands down my favorite RPG ever. Second favorite game of all time only behind Melee

[@AndySunshine1291]

These were my first ever RPG and I distinctly remember being so schocked by the cliffhanger at the end of the first game and then going to Gamestop and asking about if there was going to be a sequel and they told me it had come out earlier that year and being so excited to play it when I got home. So much nostalgia and joy associated with this series. And I won't spoil it but goddamn the shocking twist they folded into the final act of that original narrative is still some of the best storytelling in gaming that I've ever experienced. I really enjoyed Dark Dawn and I'm so sad because I could tell that the next one was going to be the one with the mega-twist at the end and I was excited to see how it played out and what it was going to be.

[@greatestever6952]

The music in golden sun was amazing

[@Rainhands22]

Lemuria is one of my favourite songs but they are all pretty good. They made it sound amazing considering it was designed for the gameboy advance.

[@Killjoy.Z]

The OST alone makes the game a solidified classic.

[@whatevs8572]

100% agreed. I fall asleep to the overworld 2 theme sometimes.

[@whatevs8572]

100% agreed. I fall asleep to the overworld 2 theme sometimes.

[@whatevs8572]

100% agreed. I fall asleep to the overworld 2 theme sometimes.

[@enchantyyy]

I'm currently playing Golden Sun again. It's so much nostalgia and one of the best game ever made.

[@dll-p1x]

I will never lose hope. This game has always been part of me since I was a kid

[@kyleefaren3075]

Still play GS or Lost Age once a year. I'm 27

[@Fjado]

As a kid I was the only person I knew who knew anything about these games as if they only existed in my world, so it is never not exciting to watch people talk about it with the same level of passion and nostalgia that I do

[@PressStartToContinueYT]

same, I felt like I was the only one who knew GS existed back then!

[@SagaciousSilence]

Camelot also made Mario Tennis GBA, which oddly enough was an amazing RPG and one of the best Mario Tennis games of all time. People don’t realize how unique Mario Tennis GBA was but it was a phenomenal RPG.

[@handheldnintendofan]

Mario Golf on GBA too that was really good

[@OrlandoAponte]

I replayed Golden Sun 1 & 2 last year, at the ripe old age of 31. I was afraid that they wouldn't have aged well, but instead I was proven that these games are even greater than I remembered. Honestly, the Golden Sun lore/universe are probably my all-time favorites of any game. There's something about the game world that strikes a perfect balance between natural and magical.

[@KevinTheTimeGeek86]

I've been a "Golden Sun" fan from the beginning, and I feel like the series has a chance to thrive nowadays. Plus, tradition isn't always a bad thing. "Dragon Quest XI" (especially the Definitive Edition) has sold really well, and the battles are still pretty standard turn-based fare, as they had been since the series began. Honestly, whatever happens with Golden Sun, whether it's a remake of the first 2 or a brand new adventure, I'll be there. And I'm definitely one of those lobbying for more Golden Sun stuff in Smash Bros. :D

[@Arksimon2k]

Yesss, we need more Golden Sun. 1 week until the anniversary!

[@kodyskwarchuk7421]

I remember when I was like 7 years old and one of my moms coworkers was driving to Edmonton with her kids and they were able too take me. The other kid had Golden Sun and a GBA, I only had a GBC and I was so completely blown away. I bugged my parents so much for GBA and Golden Sun once I got to Edmonton, and they wound up getting it for me, then the next summer I saved up my allowance to get TLA. So many memories. ❤️

[@PressStartToContinueYT]

Awesome story!

[@jakobtehwookiee9564]

Thanks for making this video! I just found your channel and I loved your video! I love Golden Sun and I'm still holding out for a new Golden Sun game.

[@PressStartToContinueYT]

Thanks a lot for the kind words!

[@mehlover]

Was super glad I bought this game on the Wii play store years ago. It was nice and relaxing to play an old RPG turn based game, especially one with challenges. It was amazing to see how much was achieved on the GBA at that time. It would be awesome if we could get a remake, or just bundle all 3 games and have it playable on the Switch store

[@CoranceLChandler]

Golden sun, Shining Force two of my favorites. Been waiting for golden sun to come out with a sequel for ages and I'm here to find out what the heck happened

[@heike-zm7ze]

I'd be all for it. I never had a Gameboy Advance, but the only title I was really conscious of missing out on was Golden Sun. But I would be more excited to see Shining Force come back for real.

[@obeserob5027]

Wasn't the lost age originally made as a part of golden sun 1 but they couldn't fit it so they made it a full blown sequel? Could've sworn I heard that somewhere

[@PressStartToContinueYT]

I’ve also heard that, though it’s never been confirmed!

[@squallthegriever]

Yes that is true. Both games are basically the same game, just disk one and disk two.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@PressStartToContinueYT Golden sun was made because there wasn't that much rpgs like dragon Quest on GBA. Not the case now a days.

[@GodsPetHuman]

Yeah, I hear that's the case as well

[@Rainhands22]

@@PressStartToContinueYT I'm pretty sure it's been confirmed if you look up previous interviews.

[@TheMissingLink2]

The Sun will rise again. If we as a community fight for it, it will come back.... Make videos, make fan art, talk about it in forums, get people to play it AND most important, SHOW Nintendo we want this series to return. Golden Sun is a fantastic series that deserves so much more attention and respect than what it gets.

[@ogregret3368]

Gonna take some big KZbinrs for that bud were still a small community sadly even with smash having Isaac as a trophy

[@hannibalcase1100]

As a kid, I really liked JRPG's, but the TV I had to play games on was a blurry POS that made it nearly impossible to make details out on the prerendered backgrounds these games generally used. The cleanliness of GS' art style was a godsend to me.

[@PressStartToContinueYT]

That's a good point that isn't talked about enough. It was a really "clean" RPG at its core

[@hannibalcase1100]

@@PressStartToContinueYT The tile-based graphics would also have made consistent puzzle mechanics a lot easier to communicate, too, come to think of it.

[@Oudyne]

I’m sad I found the Golden Sun franchise with Dark Dawn. I loved the game only to have it be in this situation. I know my wife would also absolutely love a new game. I started watching this video and she instantly knew the music and grabbed the little clay djinns she made back when we first met.

[@butzmn7190]

I love Golden Sun. Whenever I take long flights or train rides I power up my gameboy and play it

[@Dallasrocker124]

I remember my cousins got this game when I was a kid and I really wanted to check it out but years passed and never got to, you've piqued my interest to finally give them a shot again

[@russellgale]

Golden Sun 1 and 2 are two of my all-time favorite games. It would be cool to have another installment in the series. Great video!

[@PressStartToContinueYT]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@guruthosamarthruin4459]

I like Golden Sun, but my #1 dream in the gaming space is a true revival of Shining Force, lead by Camelot. Chances of it happening are approximately 0.00001%, but nothing in gaming would get me more excited. I expect that Camelot will do nothing but Mario Sports games (which I don't care about, at all) for the remainder of their existence.

[@JoeMama-hf4xh]

Unpopular opinion: I thought the amount of text was just fine

[@isaac3000]

Hope will never die

[@markjefferies2544]

Crazy this showed up for me. This was my first big game I completed. It frustrated me, scared me, and taught me how to play these type of games. Loved it.

[@auraleedivinus]

A remake/remaster of the three GS games would be a good way to introduce them to the new generation of gamers today. Doing a 4th one would confuse newbies alike since those three games rely on each other for the lore and terms these games used. But then again, I'm all up for a 4th one. 😂

[@joegreen3802]

I'd go for ether or. A remake of the original would be great for newcomers, but I would love to see where the story would go after the cliffhanger in Dark Dawn.

[@lysander9957]

I remember when Dark Dawn was announced and my brother and I lost our freaking minds. We were so excited that our favorite rpg was coming back. So sad at the current state of the series.

[@pythonxz]

When Reggie announced it at E3, I actually started crying. When I heard the main theme, it broke me. This series has gotten me through some of the worst moments in my life.

[@MultiWouf]

Ngl, I started with Dark Dawn, and I'm still very sad there's no continuation in sight

[@typicalswine7779]

Duuude I just played dark sun again last week!! The main struggle I have with it that they would need to fix is permanently missable djinn. Totally messed me up when I found out there were some I couldn't get that were easily missed world map encounters so I couldn't take my run to 100% completion without restarting and using a guide :/ outside of that, incredible series!

[@lindendrache8998]

So true, I just bought a copy of Dark Dawn a few weeks ago, to finally play the 3rd part of the series (never had a DS back when it came out) - I absolutely played the hell out of part 1 and 2, they were amazing. I also like part 3, it has the same feeling and mechanics I like. But those permanently missable things like djinns and summons are crap. And the worldmap is crap - why are there no marks for visited locations?? It is so easy to miss stuff and get lost. The worldmap in the first two games could be zoomed, etc. and locations were marked - great feature!

[@Progeusz]

It's one of many disappointing aspects of Dark Dawn - lots of "Points of no Return" with permanently missable Djinni and other things. Meanwhile it was pretty much a trademark of previous two titles that you could come back to old areas later, had a lot of freedom in terms of where to go, you were actually incentivized to do so and some sub plots only happened when you checked out old areas with new psynergies.

[@e_puffin]

Golden Sun is that one game series that I won't get tired of playing over and over again. Thank you for making this video

[@PressStartToContinueYT]

No problem!

[@clockhanded]

There was something really pure, earnest, and solid about Golden Sun compared to other RPGs. Some games feel like they combine a good story with traditional RPG gameplay in an attempt checks all the boxes of RPGs before it. Golden Sun feels like its RPG gameplay takes a responsibility to be enjoyable.

[@shakengandulf]

I put over 500hrs into No.1, had every weapon, everything. Is probably my top 3 best RPG games.

[@ScootsLounge]

I love the Golden Sun series ever since my mom got me into it so many years ago. Though it took me a while to actually complete all of them, they still remained a favorite of mine for a very long time. And while I do still love them, I have to admit that the series has a lot of glaring problems. The story is honestly not that compelling in the long run. Sure, when you start out you have this grand sense of wonder and you really want to know what happens next, but at the end of every Golden Sun you're just left wanting more. And I don't mean in the good way. I'll excuse GS1 because they intended a sequel when it was released, but Lost Ages really left a hollow feeling for me. Yay, I lit the lighthouses and brought peace to the world, but the real bad guy is still out there and I'm not the one who gets the final confrontation with him. And Dark Dawn literally ends on a cliff hanger, though I assume that was going to be resolved in a sequel. It especially hurts for Lost Ages because, even though I enjoyed playing the game I know that it wont resolve in a satisfying manner so I just dont feel up to playing it. To end on a high note though, I absolutely love the world building in this game. I love how it's based on medieval concepts like alchemy and even have a flat world where you can see the edges of the world. I think that is super cool and it'd be awesome to explore those concepts more. I also thought the battle system and Djinns were really fun to mess around with, and the puzzles were top notch.

[@PressStartToContinueYT]

That's a cool story that your mom introduced you to the game. I tried for years to get my parents into video games, but I gave up!

[@joegreen3802]

There is a lot of potential for this series to grow like Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy did. But I do agree that the story is pretty meh. If they ever did a remake of the first two, I would heavily recommend doing a bit more with the stories and especially the characters. They aren't bad, but could be better.

[@pancakeslapp]

Tbh I feel like the story is fairly good for the most part, it's when you get to the ending of TLA (which you touch on) that it feels like there are missing plot points, or rather points that come up that are never resolved really. Like Alex at the end of TLA is hardly touched on at the beginning of Dark Dawn, much less TLA itself. Even now I'm left wondering, "what became of that?"

[@BigBadWolframio]

I LOVE the first two Golden Sun games. They remain as two of my favourite games up to this day, but I also think that if a fourth instruments was to happen, it would need to change and adapt to the new times. That could either be great or bad: it could push what we already love from the game and transform it into something innovative, better and even more fascinating, or it could lose its spirit in the impossible try to create a fans + stockholders pleaser. No matter what happens, GS 1 and 2 will still be in my heart and nothing can change that!

[@BloodyFox13]

Being my most favourite RPG, I really hope for a reboot on the Switch as well as for a nice sequel...for me Dark Dawn felt like the first part felt in comparison to the lost age: something is missing storywise. So I hope Nintendo and Camelot get to fill that gap and bring the story to an end :)

[@PressStartToContinueYT]

I know, my heart yearns for it!

[@simondg42]

Man I miss this game so much.... I played this game more than every other game in my life ❤️ This Music, the Battle System and of course the story is such a masterpiece!! Every year I hope that they release Golden Sun 3...

[@KalaamNozalys]

To compare with sale numbers, even with 700k units, Dark Dawn sold more than any Fire Emblem game before Awakening.

[@hydrogenina]

That’s true, but their last chance was Awakening and it lead to a new era for the Fire Emblem franchise. I don’t think Nintendo would give even their last chance to Golden Sun

[@KalaamNozalys]

Well, they gave a lot of chances to FE, given all the commercial "failures" before. I think they'll give GS a chance, given the trademark situation and the good relationship camelot has, and the fact that they litteraly have nothing else to work on right now

[@baliyesterday]

I'm always super happy seeing people talking about my favourite game series of all time!

[@ShuriBear]

The last year I've seen the love for Golden Sun only go up! Perhaps it has to do with their 20th anniversary this year. But by only knowing that the Golden Sun Speedrunning community has tripled over the last year means that I still have hope.

[@PressStartToContinueYT]

its exposure at SDGQ this year helped as well!

[@ShuriBear]

​@@PressStartToContinueYT That most definitely helped as well!

[@freddyvidz]

IT'S BEEN 20 YEARS SINCE THE RELEASE?!?

[@JGarrison51285]

My experience with Golden Sun was through the visual boy advance emulator back when I was a junior in highschool, I spent DAYS and weeks sitting at the computer playing this game with the help of a walkthrough to 100% completion. Same for the 2nd game. Loved them ever since.

[@jonetgames]

There's some error in your video... I could find no record of Takahashi working on any Final Fantasy games. He only worked for Enix and left the company before the Square merger.

[@PressStartToContinueYT]

Yup, that was an error on my part.

[@Elementrius]

I love this game series, it made me fascinated by old world lore like alchemy, Atlantis, flat worlds, etc. I would like to reference things from Golden Sun in a game of my own, someday.

[@novustalks7525]

Considering metroid dread is coming out 15 years after it was originally announced and cancelled I'd say that raises the chances for other franchises. Golden sun 4 will hopefully come sooner rather than later

[@PressStartToContinueYT]

that's what I'm hoping for as well!

[@Rokabur]

I heard that it ended up they wouldn't be able to fit all of Golden Sun on a GBA cartridge so they had to split it in half (considering the first game, while superb, ends like halfway through the entire adventure), not that they decided to create a "follow up/sequel".

[@badoink5470]

As proven with the save transfer system it offers guess. Writing down that long password was a pain, but worth every seconds.

[@joeshantz8281]

Literally the best turn based rpg I played when I was young. Easy story to follow when young and stuck with me the most. I hope they realize it is "Gold", pun intended of course.

[@PressStartToContinueYT]

lololol

[@HybridAngelZero]

Actually, I think the time, and market are just right for a new Golden Sun, be it a fresh game or remake along the lines of the upcoming Advance Wars. There's been a huge resurgence in popularity for traditional RPGs since around 2017, and turn-based games like Persona 5, Octopath Traveler and Bravely Default 2 have continued to outperform sales projections. Add on to that the fact that people who are likely nostalgic for Golden Sun are reaching their mid-late 20s and early 30s, and you have a recipe for a big comeback. If Fire Emblem can come back from the brink and be a smash success, I think Isaac and the gang can, too

[@Pupppeteer]

I always wanted to get into this game on the Gameboy advance but always stopped for some reason. I love art style and idea of the brilliant story/lore but I think when a game wasn't Zelda I just couldn't commit but along with another game you speak about mother 3 I would love to give some of these classics a proper shot.

[@PressStartToContinueYT]

I can understand that, but there’s TONS of other games on the gba!

[@Kaden970]

Golden Sun is still my all time favorite game series that I replay every year or so

[@jaynemesis3055]

Golden sun the lost age is my favorite in the series

[@redduck6483]

Golden Sun 1 and 2 are being rereleased for the Switch Online . Lets F***ING GO!!!!!!

[@obeserob5027]

With the closure of the Wii U eShop in 2022 I've been highly considering wether or not to get both golden suns on virtual console but can you still connect the two?

[@PressStartToContinueYT]

I don’t believe so

[@obeserob5027]

@@PressStartToContinueYT that sucks. Some Wii U virtual console games have interesting features like super Mario advanced 4 having the e-reader exclusive levels so I was really hoping there. Hunting for the gba cartridges it is then. I already got lost ages so that's one done.

[@saltysaltmaker3848]

It's dead forever, but the games still hold a place in my heart.

[@spacedoyster7686]

As old fashioned as it's claimed to be, Golden Sun has always had one advantage over every other rpg ever in the history of ever, as far as I know; shopkeepers offer to buy old equipment when you get a new piece of gear from them. I have literally never seen that in any other game, despite what a huge convenience it is! More seriously, I'm hopeful for a new Golden Sun eventually. The problems with Dark Dawn had little to do with its gameplay. The class system is still fantastic and has yet to be matched, as far as I'm concerned. As for the genre being dead, I'm not buying that. Good single player rpgs are always nice.

[@Cool-Vest]

At least Golden Sun gets some representation in Smash. Startropics has had an even worse fate even though it was made exclusively by Nintendo.

[@ArtFenixAsordis]

Damn, I want a new Golden Sun so bad! Lost Age was my first JRPG and it's still one of my most favourite JRPGs and games in general. It's a huge shame Nintendo doesn't do anything with the series. All flaws of Dark Dawn are clear and easy to address, there's literally nothing stopping them from making a superior new entry. I will always hope they make a new Golden Sun or at the very least remake the first two/three.

[@eqx7168]

Weyard has so much lore potential

[@Blue-fg8vt]

All I can say is the sun will rise again one day. We just don't know when. And hopefully when it does shine, it will shine brighter than ever before. Even just one last time like a candle about too burn out will be enough for me.

[@Skarpo89]

It was such a surprise when I started playing it and it turned out to be so epic, and omg the sequel, it exceeded my expectations in so many ways. I wasn't prepared for such a good game

[@RoseofBattle]

Oh neat, I was the Ivan cosplayer in the Golden sun cosplayer selfie around 11:16! We ended up doing a great group shoot even with a friend as Alex later on and had a great time. I have such great memories of this series.

[@GOxHAM]

Def one of my favorite GBA titles of all time. Easily a top tier RPG, especially the second one. The third one wasn't very memorable, but I remember buying a DS just to play it, and shortly selling it after. I'd love for them to release a more difficult Golden Sun-esque RPG. Add in some gore and high risk decisions, like xcom. Now you have something more modern. I agree traditional RPGs are a dying genre. Lots of gamers I've talked to hate turn based fighting. I do too when it is not challenging and therefore doesn't require much strategy/timing. Thanks for this video, I think I'll do a Golden Sun playthrough this year.

[@Arcboltkonrad13]

It's a great series and I think the first step to bringing it back may actually be to get a "Trilogy Compilation" up onto the Switch to gauge interest.

[@ais4185]

Huh, I never knew the DS game had a mixed reception But I can tell that it's definitely a game with lots of love poured into it

[@ralone8314]

Unlike other RPG games using all MP or summon the strongest attack, in Golden Sun you can't just use all djinn and summon mindlessly. It's all about balance and tactic That's why i like Golden Sun battle mechanic

[@Grangolus]

No, you uh, definitely can do that. Let's not pretend the game requires you to use the depth it posesses.

[@MakuroX]

I loved golden sun and how it was very similar to shining the holy ark. The switch is a very popular console so I can either see a remake or remaster for the series.

[@yupifoo]

Thank you for making this video in 2021! I love the series and played and replayed the games as kid and still think about how Dark Dawn ended on a cliffhanger. Golden Sun and Lost Age were definitely better than DD in my opinion, but would still love to see the series continue. I was wondering if anyone else out there was still thinking of the series and posting content about it so it was cool so see something so recent.

[@Diamond-oe7of]

I've played both of the first two Golden Sun games like 8-10 times each; by far my favorite turn-based RPG ever, and my 2nd favorite and 3rd favorite games behind Xenoblade Chronicles 2 I'm BEGGING for the day we hopefully get a new GS game or remakes along the lines of the Octopath Traveler style or in new beautiful 3D graphics

[@paulerlingheuser8453]

You ever play ff4 or ff6 or chrono trigger or breath of fires. Better then those you think?

[@edwinrubio1681]

I bought all three games .. but the lost age was a MASTERPIECE especially when you reach the lighthouses and then get both teams I was BLOWN AWAY .. let’s not forget when you find pierce and then wolf town fighting the pirate Briggs ! man so much well made gameplay

[@Saylor28]

I always thought this franchise would have made a strong MMO. Behind the lore and all of the different areas to explore and all of the different classes you could make, to me it sounded like an MMORPGs dream.

[@davidmatthews2983]

My first born son was called Isaac. This was such a big part of my early teenage years. When I was 14 or so I thought. “If I get a son, I’ll call him issac one day. I’m 34 now, and I stand by my choice. Every male RPG from now On, I call Isaac. I hope They bring out another one. I need to find a copy of the third game, I haven’t played the one that was release on DS

[@PressStartToContinueYT]

That's awesome!

[@drdizastargames1337]

i really wish the community would come together and petition an remake or new golden sun title

[@sarim9574]

There is so much potential with this game! Like Ivan's sister backstory, backstory of the Lumerian people, and the battle system for it's time was super epic!

[@spaghety]

Golden sun remake with new links awakening graphics on switch would be incredible