What Happens When A Bodybuilder Goes Cycling?

[@gcn]

What other challenges would you like to see us do with Brad?

[@maoufreed1684]

Uphill climb challenge(The steapest) 15%?🤔

[@josephdennisb.dionisio5429]

head to head with a track cyclist

[@alexyamrani5400]

Have Greg Doucette on the show, He's an IFPB pro that does A LOT of cycling, that could be fun!

[@kienngo6252]

Track sprint I reckon Brad has a good chance

[@Lidrrz]

Lets do part2 with bratt, but give him some advice and time, like how to use the cleats and teach him for the proper how to use the shifter due to climb.. hehe how about that?😁

[@No-uw3ry]

This is what we need more of. People from different worlds getting a new appreciation for each other

[@M___X_]

absolutely, and I think more people these days strive to be "hybrid athletes". I myself come from the lifting world but why box oneself in? and who doesn't enjoy a good ride?

[@gcn]

Thanks very much - glad you enjoyed this one🙂

[@petergarnier6161]

@@gcn rower vs cyclist on Belmont hill?

[@chefkocher1]

@@petergarnier6161 yes please!

[@austin7547]

agreed, because every sport is more difficult than anyone realizes until they try it.

[@mattharvey6634]

Respect to Brad. Proper humble guy, up for a laugh and went all in on the challenge. Top bloke.

[@LisaMichele]

He seems like a really chill dude and took to the challenge humbly and gave it a great effort

[@NanashiCAST]

In other words, a chad. he carried his massive heavy competition grade muscles up that hill with his buttcheeks planted firmly on the seat on high gear

[@timothydayton5373]

I really want to look like Brad but still be able to bike up the hill like Ollie. Fat chance, I'll stick with what I do, biking for fun and exercise with a few weight room exercises thrown in. Being almost 70 I am NOT going to impress anybody anyway.

[@kotowka]

@@timothydayton5373 you’ve just impressed me!

[@timothydayton5373]

@@kotowka Sure, but thanks.

[@teemojelicoe1558]

big guy was so humble all throughout the challenge. Big love and respect

[@e2k220]

gc teemo player

[@nlb234]

"it's too light why dont you hop on" 😆

[@denni4070]

The more muscle you put on the more your cardio will go shit, have to train those new muscles for it

[@ПростойЧеловек-к8г]

Yeah he weights almost 2 times more

[@shambler7359]

Yeah, in case if he wasn’t humble, he would’ve easily passed him by..

[@deathmetalsl]

As someone who has been lifting for about a decade and only recently got into cycling I was incredibly humbled the first few days I cycled. Loved this video GCN!

[@better.better]

the thought of being trapped in a gym with nothing to look at but a bunch of sweaty people or even working out in a house staring at the same four walls is vastly unappealing to me. I should still be cross training though, which I don't, that would improve my ability overall. (and help reduce this over-40 paunch that I got going on (well for me it was an "over-45", that was the winter I barely cycled at all, and it hasn't gone away no matter how much I cycle. but I saw a lot of my beer drinking buddies get it in their 30s))

[@MrAttilaabri]

Same here but on flats I’m a monster!

[@MrAttilaabri]

@@CarpeDiem13x I’m brutal on hills regardless of watts.

[@amandabernheisel9557]

It's crazy isn't it?

[@Give_Me_Rent]

Bro same, I used to do marathons but cycling is a completely different beast. My quads have never felt so much lactic acid before

[@nostreamavailable9090]

As a former bodybuilder myself I can vouch for the cardiovascular benefits of cycling for bodybuilders , it was so much better to get out on a real bike instead of grinding away on a stationary in the gym looking at a wall, and also theres huge benefits from cycling for adding detail and separation in the legs, it did wonders for my calves as well tbh. Also bear in mind Tom platz was a keen cyclist

[@droneon5575]

I have been lifting for 4 years and one thing I always make sure to do is run atleast 3 miles before training session. ON weekends I mountain bike for fun. IM big in gym and can bike/run better than anyone I met so far. As long as u do cardiovascular fitness to your good.

[@chazercize1330]

I'm dating myself by admitting this, but I also remember those images of Platz in M&F huffing it out on a skinny.

[@nostreamavailable9090]

@@droneon5575 yes mate The golden eagle himself.

[@reinartthefox1651]

Arnold also is a huge fan of cycling and would do many miles back in his bodybuilding career

[@nostreamavailable9090]

@reinartthefox1651 Yeah l think l recall seeing pictures of him

[@thebird9766]

We need to see a race with Coach Greg

[@richardt.rogers2730]

Would love to see more from Brad! I'm a former bodybuilder myself who has switched over to cycling and it has been so much fun seeing my body adapt. I also love seeing how incredibly well optimized each person's body is to the task they perform respectively

[@gcn]

That's really interesting, Richard! We'll see what we can do!

[@bertrandronge9019]

@@gcn You need to have Greg Doucette for that one. He does a lot of cycling too

[@PBUCKY1969]

@@gcn would be great to see if Brad takes up the challenge!

[@motovx171]

I absolutely loved this. I also came from BBing after I had a grade 3 AC joint separation. I’d love to see more about adaptations and the disciplinary mindset when it comes to training. I’ve lost ~50lbs/~26kg in the last two years. Props to Brad and great humor all around!

[@PangaDayWalker]

Not a bodybuilder myself but I do workout for the last 27 years. It took me a whole year to start cycling sort of well on MTB and not having to drop from bike and actually complete all my rides. Our body is such a cool and adaptive machine.

[@petercrease5527]

Need to get Brad on a velodrome..... I suspect his flying 200 would be insane for a beginner.

[@mrbrutal6614]

I think most beginner cyclists with the same amount of steroids in their veins would be achieving as good figures too.

[@senfnacken]

@@mrbrutal6614 well you think wrong

[@karolvrchovsky4426]

Doing cardio while texting on a phone is enough for him.

[@karolvrchovsky4426]

@@mrbrutal6614 what "unbelievable" figures? I can do over 2000W and I am clean as virgin piss.

[@davidburgess741]

He looks a bit like Sir Chris!

[@adohmnail6445]

Outstanding! Great effort from the big man. It is always awesome to see top-level athletes learning what each other goes through.

[@r.davies2702]

There's a stigma that goes along with most blokes of this size, all walking around giving it "Billy big balls". Having said that, I take my hat off to Brad. Firstly for accepting the challenge to take on the beast that is Ollie and secondly, for going into it most likely knowing he'd come second. We're all different and can't all be good at everything, fair play Brad 👍

[@gcn]

Absolutely, we're so pleased Brad got involved and helped up with this vid! More of Brad in the future? 🤔

[@TheWebstaff]

@@gcn yeah I might even sub if you bring him back for more bike challenges. I'd love to see him over on the GMBN and EMBN channels. Be interesting to see him on an ebike where the motor can so some of the cardio for him.

[@FabioSpelta]

He didn't came second, he came LAST! 😀

[@matthewpaull7362]

Fair play to Brad!

[@morosis82]

@@gcn for sure. Would be interesting to see how he goes after a bit of training, especially on a flat course. As a fairly big guy myself I'm never going to be the mountain goat some of you guys are but my big legs have a bit of power on the flat.

[@jeffeversole291]

Thanks to Brad for dishing it out AND taking it while handling himself like a pro. Thoroughly enjoyed the video

[@leah5280_]

PLEASE HAVE ONE OF YOUR CYCLISTS COMPETE IN A SHORT SPRINT RACE (1-2 mins) WITH GREG DOUCETTE! It would be so awesome to see, given that he does already cycle.

[@aasiossilanoja-mansikkavuo1580]

yes!

[@dantesobrero8702]

Yess we wanna see Greg here

[@Eee00123]

Yes we need coach Greg

[@tttv3687]

Hell yeah, definitely want to see that big FTP roaring

[@EnigmaticAnomaly]

I fear that attempting that would only lead to a destroyed bicycle. With that much weight and power, there is no way the drivetrain will withstand the torque of a sprint. It might even crack the frame.

[@andrewmcalister3462]

Brad is a great sport, and clearly an anaerobic monster. GCN, you should definitely have Brad try some velodrome sprints.

[@footflaps]

Yep, full marks for being a good sport!

[@ambientblue-eyedmonkey8849]

clearly doesn't have quick twitch muscles, so would be useless there as well.

[@jeffk464]

I would say weight lifters which I was one now 49 years old, need cardio(aka cycling) to balance out their fitness. But no all that extra upper body weight doesn't help you much when you hit a steep hill. Weight lifting if your not careful can also be bad for your joint health. Really you are better off building a moderate physique in the gym, rather than trying to look like Arnold. Moderate builds your joints, excess can tear them down, in my opinion.

[@sln9360]

@@jeffk464 At 55 and an avid cyclist now I wish I hadn't done the heavy lifting in my younger days. The upside at (an in-shape weight of) 230 # (104kg) a 105 groupset is all I need; spending the extra dollars for Ultegra or DA to save 1 kg doesn't make any sense, nor would it improve my time, so there's that LOL.

[@Jamess92]

Yeah he should have done a sprint instead of a climb

[@mattsouth831]

The human body is crazy. Well done to brad, a lot of people hate cycling uphills even veteran cyclists so to say brad who's a bodybuilder did that is very impressive.

[@MrTripleXXX]

I actually like riding up hills, it feels like a good leg workout. But my legs are fairly strong cus of weight lifting. I mean unless the hill is stupidly big and steep...

[@bryanwhitton1784]

@@MrTripleXXX I have a hill near me that is about 1.3 miles long and varies from 7% to 12%. First time I tried to climb it I had to stop and walk for a bit. But I kept trying again and again. After 1.5 years of doing it 2/3 times a month I found myself passing the newbies and motoring up cleanly. It was a great feeling. Just had both knees replaced this year and they say I can start riding again in November. I cant' wait. I will probably have to spend the next 1.5 years just getting to the hill let alone getting over it. Can anyone say e-bike. 🙂

[@getcattoed9291]

@@bryanwhitton1784 can you share with us the cause of your knee replacement? Is it because of cycling? Just curious as I like cycling myself and this thought might be in my head for a while so need to know for sure ^^

[@bryanwhitton1784]

@@getcattoed9291 Sure, not directly related to cycling. The right knee my ACL was torn from both ends back about 40 years ago. It was predicted I would need replacement as I got older. The left knee was a bit of a surprise. But it went bad in the 3 months following the first one. The only connection to bicycles is that they were weak to start with and riding 50 miles a day likely accelerated the degradation. As a result I have not been riding for a couple of years and my Trek has been hanging in the garage. My concern is that I don't want to wear out the new knees. I have heard anecdotal evidence that the legs never fully recover. I am seriously looking at the the Specialized Turbo Vado SL. A small battery and motor that gives a little assist not an electric motorcycle. But the Trek gets used first. So, no not a direct connection to bikes.

[@getcattoed9291]

@@bryanwhitton1784 thanks for sharing :) Hope you recover okay and hit the road this month. Start slow and there's no shame in E-bikes. The hardcore cycling community is unnecessarily toxic to them :/ See you around ^^

[@francismarion-swampfox9452]

I've been lifting 5 times a week for 12 years. I just started biking 20-30 miles every third day. Humbling, motivating & addicting!

[@pyrofful]

Are you worried about muscle overuse? Do you notice inflammation in the joints or anything?

[@victormagtangol8627]

nahh @@pyrofful

[@joby602]

Would be very interesting to load up Ollie's bike with enough weight to match Brad, and see how that affects his time. Great video, and props to Brad for taking part.

[@Maverick5588]

That's a great idea, would be very interesting to see that

[@jebise1126]

we dont know how much watts brad was doing. olie said he is keeping above 400. so from there its easy to calculate just needs brads watts

[@JanKowalski-pe9lo]

Its not even about Watts lol... Ollie would win easily anyway as you can only imagine how much muscle mass needs to be fueled by Brad compared to Ollie where i believe Ollie have even bigger left heart chamber as well. Different world for body builder.

[@rickhammond2473]

Everyone always has an answer bottom line he got smoked.

[@mattellis4176]

For the first time riding a road bike, and given the disadvantages, that is an epic effort from Brad. Chapeau mate!

[@seangray933]

Coach Greg!!! Want to see a body builder who also trains in cycling vs your cyclist. You could probably win up a hill, but I think he would win on a flat course.

[@sabrinaelkhamissi9440]

We need to go back in a series

[@aegisgfx]

The body builder would win in a very short sprint on a flat surface, any other type of long haul or uphill cycling they would lose since they are so much heavier.

[@Reflec999]

​@@aegisgfx true

[@kalvinsantero8122]

Nah.. The cyclist are actually warming up into he very start but when it comes to sprint.. He's way faster

[@quikesteve]

Cool video, as a big guy myself I'm 1.92 and 110kg I know how Brad feels since I felt it when I started cycling, I have explosive power but the climbs are a killer. Video suggestion, 1 or 2 month training the cyclist in the gym and the bodybuilder in the bike, record the progress and results for both at the end. That could be great!!! Awesome video guys!!!

[@johnpombrio]

All you would do is make the cyclist's lean build even leaner. Good-sized calves tho.

[@danielrose6418]

i love that idea

[@ma894]

It would be interesting to see Ollie throw on a weight vest to bring him closer to Brad's bodyweight

[@onepunchbud1472]

In the end for a well-rounded cyclist it's all about power/weight ratio. Of course in the flats we normies do ok on the bike. When you realize how much faster the good cyclists are on the climb and how much better their ratio is, the more respect you have for them.

[@CanalCarenagem]

That would be awesome

[@theincrediblesulk5543]

Fair play to Brad, first time on a bike in 6years carrying all that oxygen sucking mass and managed to finish the climb. Love to see a mass wattage test over different times

[@peteevans8150]

Would be cool to see 6 or 12 months from now with steady cycling training.

[@tbrowniscool]

@@peteevans8150 Yeah and a correct saddle height and clipless shoes!

[@leonbostick5562]

@@tbrowniscool they didn't set him up clipless by design. He would have fallen off the bike on those steep sections.

[@tbrowniscool]

@@leonbostick556220 mins of practicing and he would be fine.

[@radiocontrolled9181]

@@tbrowniscool not after 6 years of not touching a bike. Forget clipless.

[@pal9037]

I have been wondering about almost this scenario (ie weightlifter instead of a bodybuilder) since I was 17. It was a pleasant suprise to see both doing relatively well - good sportsmanship, humor and pride got me.

[@WhenPaulaSparks]

Brad was a great sport and put down such an impressive performance! And cheers to Hank in the gym and Ollie’s amazing climb! Loved this content celebrating everyone’s strengths - one of my favorite videos yet.

[@Holloweve]

Of course he did, he’s juiced

[@goffe2282]

Why wasn't Hank climbing?

[@christianmaurer5978]

The winner of both contests was humility. I Loved seeing them share their strengths and weaknesses.

[@JHKNVY02]

Different body types, different strengths (literally). Wonderful video highlighting an appreciation and respect for each others sport.

[@jemster7196]

Being a recreational lifter myself and an avid cycling enthusiast. Can totally relate to this content. There is alot of back and forth within the 2 communities that one cannot successfully do both. Which is definitely true, but it's definitely possible to be good at both, just not the best.

[@shellderp]

both are fun and rewarding, all I care about

[@dextercuizon6118]

Ollie was on the big ring the whole climb. Wow. Kudos to Brad for taking the challenge, after 6 yrs being out of the bike. Amazing strength in the gym.

[@alexanderg2313]

Who's here after coach Greg's video? BTW I am a cyclist and an advanced bodybuilder too, which is why I completely agree with him.

[@aasiossilanoja-mansikkavuo1580]

me

[@adammarshall8070]

Me. Think it would be a good collaboration

[@thanhcongTDT]

up

[@rahmeddintawfi5170]

me

[@gregdoucette]

Thanks

[@villiano1]

props to brad for doing this "competition". there's no way anyone who doesn't bike regularly would ever be able to come close to those GCN dudes. Those guys probably put in 200+ miles a week.

[@frozenbean]

well... SOME of them do. Dan might do 200 by the end of the year!

[@Kimberly_Sparkles]

@@frozenbean On an e-bike.

[@imneveruploadinghere7180]

@@Kimberly_Sparkles with a throttle

[@Kimberly_Sparkles]

@@imneveruploadinghere7180 Unrestricted.

[@WendsH]

@@Kimberly_Sparkles Freshly charged.

[@_ldm_3501]

My brother was a body builder and about the same size as Brad. He transition in to doing Ironman and it was amazing to see his transformation. Still is incredibly strong but is now highly functional. His speed, strength and endurance gains were awesome to witness over the years.

[@karldalton1953]

Need Coach Gregg on this

[@кточто-м1о]

абоба

[@joecifelli1253]

All that upper body mass is a hindrance for Brad when cycling. It's great to see guys join together and respect what each other has achieved. Great job Brad and Ollie.

[@aegisgfx]

body mass in general, the lighter a guy is the faster he will go uphill, nothing shocking about that

[@Seppster58]

Great video guys. Ollie crushed the climb. Great respect for Brad and that Lycra jersey. Great way to start my day with a smile. Also, kudos to Hank for attempting that gym gear.

[@MonteStudios]

This was WAY more fun to watch than I expected... Props to Brad for participating and making this a pleasure to watch.

[@alicehughes2304]

Good content GCN - this shows a good comparison of muscle strength vs endurance and the benefits to both. You should definitely have Brad back for more challenges and discuss more of the transferable benefits of strength training to the bike and also the different energy systems used by each discipline!

[@21istheone55]

Well the cyclist has more strength, proportionally at least

[@dovmeisels6810]

GCN needs to showcase a bodybuilder who is also a cyclist. We need Coach Greg!

[@intensity4843]

About right! Let's have coach greg here!

[@Iceman_HSV]

Pedalling faster than last time!

[@robo3781]

An EXPERIENCED cycling bodybuilder would be a different story. Get Greg Doucette in there for part 2!

[@michaelstratton5223]

How about a cyclist who is also a bodybuilder? So basically André Greipel.

[@nasstak3440]

Or he may be a cyclist whose a bodybuilder….?

[@leob8196]

Fair play to Brad. To be put on an expensive road bike with very little cycling experience definitely isn’t easy.

[@aubreywhitley6889]

GCN should have at least give him a test loop to understand how to shift gears.

[@goku445]

@@aubreywhitley6889 come on. Shifting gears is easy. It was not his first bike ride.

[@joaoreis2715]

@@goku445 correct but one unfair point is the shoes part. It does an incredible difference to have the road mechanism (where basically you can apply strength with both feet going up and down) or the normal one (where you basically just apply pressure down on the pedals). PS: Sorry if the vocabulary is not clear, I am not a native and I am not sure the technical words are those 😂

[@vivek_v]

@@joaoreis2715 The power created on the upstroke is negligible (though noticeable in a sprint when the muscles aren't fatigued) since the muscles used with pulling up the leg are much smaller and fatigue much faster compared to the quadriceps (numerous studies back this up). However, clipless does provide a much stiffer interface between the shoe and the pedal as well as making it easier to unweight the pedal on the upstroke. Overall, technique can be compensated to adjust for either flat or clipless pedals, so even if Brad had clipless pedals, his pedaling technique probably wouldn't have taken much advantage of it.

[@r.davies2702]

@@aubreywhitley6889 If you believe that GCN would hand over one of their bikes without first assessing whether or not the person can or cannot ride I think you're very much mistaken. He'd have hit that hill a few times, at the very least, a spin round the block, before the final cut.

[@2wheelz3504]

As a cyclist, I think Brad was outstanding. First time riding like that and doing that well was a real feat. He did far better than I thought he would. The training for the two sports is totally different.

[@2011hwalker]

He did stop....he got totally obliterated (11 minutes versus 3 mins!!) but he was a good sport about it, although his fast start suggested he didnt understand pacing at all.

[@mattellis4176]

@@2011hwalker Yes, but there was also the pressure of the camera to create some drama and put on a good show. Props to the dude.

[@thehandofdevon3505]

Would love to see Greg Doucette face off against Ollie, since he already cycles

[@maximilianklein2062]

I really like videos like that. I've been to the gym for ages, done some road cycling - mostly into running now (at least until I finish this marathon by the end of this month in Berlin) and I've enjoyed all of it. I couldn't imagine a life without sports and I have the utmost respect for every sportsperson out there. However what I always hated about the sports I'd been doing were the people who kept disrespecting others for the sports they were doing as if that made their their life decissions better. In reality however it is pretty impressive if you can squat 250kg but it is also very impressive if you can do what Olie did. In both cases you have to put in work - and they both did.

[@1977JJT]

Loved it! Respectful of other sporting specialities and really highlighting how pure strength isn't the most important aspect of riding on the road!

[@gcn]

Thanks - glad you enjoyed it 🙌

[@alexbelevski3396]

Invite Greg Doucette for this challenge, a bodybuilding cyclist. Would love to see how he fares :)

[@sSavageGainSs]

agree. Greg should be invited here

[@gregdoucette]

Would be great

[@sSavageGainSs]

@@gregdoucette Good to see you here! Thanks for all the videos and the knowledge. It's been hugely helpful for my shredding process and keep it for the long term!!

[@daviddaimary7734]

@@gregdoucette What cycle you getting on before getting on a cycle?

[@cvspvr]

@@gregdoucette buy my cookbook!

[@robertharvilla4881]

Mad respect for Brad to actually give it a go up that hill. No way I would want to punish myself so badly on that hill from being so unused to such efforts. I wish they would have told us their weights, because you can't be too skinny to climb, but you definitely can be too heavy.

[@mourlyvold64]

Agreed, that guy's a great sport showing real character.

[@dreadsanddirt5966]

Enjoyed this one! I'm not a road guy (MTB and former bmx guy all the way) but I do watch GCN from time to time. As a former bodybuilder myself I know the particular challenges of lugging 200+LBS up a hill. Even when I go down to 190lbs it was still so much work on anything but short, punchy climbs. The extra weight and oxygen consumption is blatantly real.

[@tesmith47]

yep same here 225lbs and old but not fat

[@aliasgharkhoyee9501]

I'm somewhat thin so don't know how this works, but wouldn't the extra muscle and lung capacity help?

[@Joe-md7uc]

@@aliasgharkhoyee9501 Yes that is true that muscles help you but muscles weigh way more than fat and consume more oxygen.

[@tdgdbs1]

@@aliasgharkhoyee9501 Not at all, larger muscle strands consume more oxygen and the lungs can't keep up. Same applies for marathoners and sprinters.

[@jazzypizzle]

It's also a case of type 2 muscle fibres (fast twitch/ power) being far less efficient than type 1 (slow twitch/ endurance). Power athletes tend to build a physique around delivering maximal power at the cost of endurance.

[@regweaver1402]

Proud of Brad for trying something WAY out of his training and comfort zone. Brad demonstrates the respect he has for athletes in other, very different sports. And in turn, he gets huge respect for his humility and willingness to risk. This is really fun!

[@AlexMBateau]

I really liked this video. In terms of more content with Brad, I’d love to see a deep dive into the role that strength training plays in cycling vs the role that cardio plays in bodybuilding.

[@Kimberly_Sparkles]

I like that as much as we joke about the lack of arm muscles in cyclists, it really displays that athletes actually develop in different ways that support their sport and might be a hindrance to them in another.

[@marcdaniels9079]

Dylan Johnson’s channel covers this very effectively with all the science explained.

[@frankchan5547]

Just shows how specific fitness is. Fitness is combinations of strength, flexibility, speed, stamina, flexibility and balance. Body builders only use cardio to warm up and stay lean, focussing on strength, low reps and fast twitch muscles, like sprinters. Cyclists are endurance, aerobic, slow twitch focused. Average pro cyclist is about 72 kgs, which is light or lean for a body builder.

[@r.massattack4052]

Great Video. I'm no where close to Brad's build but recently took 2 weeks off to rest my shoulders. This is how I found the great GCN team. I picked a different GCN session for 21 days straight, dropped 20 pounds doing so. I now train on my indoor trainer 6 days a week for an hour or more but I'm back to working out doing HIIT training with power blocks weights 3 times a week. Like Brad said the cardio is toffee than expected so I've stuck with it. I have noticed a difference in my muscular build. I'm hooked on the GCN training. I recommend it to everyone

[@lexusenthusiast6414]

Oh wow man that sounds amazing I should try that to make sure I hit my weight loss targets. Cheers.

[@r.massattack4052]

@@lexusenthusiast6414 Give it a shot, you will only benefit from it greatly. As I was new to the workouts I started with 15-20 minute workouts, gradually worked my way up to the hour long sessions and at times I've felt really good, I doubled up and did back to back videos. I took a note book and logged my calories, distance, odometer, etc. Best of luck to you. Let me know how you do?

[@Flameb0]

im also nowhere close to brads build

[@lexusenthusiast6414]

@@r.massattack4052 could you post a link to where you found the resource? I don't know what duration is best, I ride my mtb 8-10 hours a week rn but no planned goals and training, I'll let you know how it goes.

[@zanderradley97]

Greg Douchette should've been the cast representing the bodybuilders in this cycling race. Please do another video Bodybuilder vs Cyclist in Cycling. Do it with Coach Greg Douchette. He has almost 2mil subs on KZbin And he'll give you boys a run for your money

[@petewillmot]

Brilliant one again! Bravo to all involved! After a bit of training/readjusting to bike (including clipless pedals etc) it would be great to see a TT battle at the track! Rippling muscles vs Aero Gains?

[@Relevant_Irrelevance]

I used to be a track and field sprinter and do weights before I got into cycling. The power certainly helps in sprinting on the bike, even if the form is bad, but I really feel the drag on the climbs.

[@ninosantana2214]

We need to see coach Greg in a video with one of these elite cyclists!!!!! Let’s make it happen

[@fernandoleite3915]

I just love how creative you guys are. Always a lot of entertainment and content in the channel. Congrats for all the creativity with good fun!

[@gcn]

Thanks Fernando, glad you're enjoying our videos!

[@cccycling5835]

I can tell you right now, as a fellow big guy and weight lifter, that mountain and hill riding is absolutely much more difficult even with gigantic leg muscles. There's just so much more mass on me vs. someone with 50lbs less weight. I catch up when it comes to downhill and flat sprints. As a matter of fact the weight is becomes negligible and becomes kind of an advantage. Brad should absolutely try out a track bike (where I started personally) on a velodrome. All that power through the legs becomes a boon.

[@gcn]

Thanks - we'll see what we can do!

[@Idk-c6o4i]

We would really love to see coach Greg Doucette!!!!!!

[@chrisridesbicycles]

What I found most interesting is when they talked about the amount of calories under full steam. This was in the range of a big day in the mountains and seems to be a natural limit of how much energy you can put through your body. Would be interesting to compare Brad in the gym vs. Ollie in the mountains vs. Mark Beaumont riding steady for 24h

[@trepidati0n533]

Body builders have a really tight understanding of their caloric/macro needs; almost annoyingly so. If they are too light they don't get the gains they want. If they are too heavy then they have to cut fat even harder nearing competition.

[@Lisekplhehe]

@@trepidati0n533 Well, that's everybody. If you're in caloric deficit you're not building muscle and if you are over the maintenance calories you do, but if you overdo it you're going to get more fat than muscle. To optimize the process you usually cycle between deficit (cutting), surplus (bulking) and maintenance (usually for recovery period during deload weeks both during cutting and bulking phases.).

[@marcdaniels9079]

Remember that a big day in the mountains is perhaps 5 or 6 hours of exercise at maybe 300-400 watts consuming mainly highly calorie dense and easily digested carbs. Body builders train maybe 90 mins in the gym on a bulking phase with perhaps a bit of light cardio and consume a totally different protein-centric diet, and to look like Brad some exogenous substances. As far as a natural limit to how many calories you can put through your body, cross channel swimmers expend 900-1000 calories per hour for around 11-14 hours and some people do double crossings so no 7000 is not the limit.

[@nikgracanin6180]

7000 calories is not your daily limit, however most research suggest that you can't burn 4500 calories daily on a regular basis. Human body can burn much more calories in a day though, just not consecutively every day.

[@volvo245]

Wanna hear a blackpill? You lifespan barring trauma and disease isn't measured in years, days or seconds. No its best measured in caloric throughput. There is a reason why top athletes rarely live past 75, eating and exercising like an athlete, about 2 or 3 times more than normal person for 10 to 20 years during your active career means that you burn up your longevity in roughly the equal amount. At the other side of the spectrum there are people who live over 100 years and they almost always report the same thing: they unknowingly have throughout their lives lived on a intermittent fasting diet at what many would consider near starvation.Their fire burned dimmer but longer.

[@chefcwmr7362]

as two dedicated sportsmen it would be incredibly interesting to have both brad and ollie train in each others disciplines for a month or even 3 to see what changes take place. in cycling but also physique and power output etc.

[@philthewriter]

Not sure Ollie would appreciate gaining weight, considering love of hill climbs 😂

[@brunokrause]

Training a guy like Brad in cycling would probably be detrimental do his bodybuilding goals. But it would be really interesting indeed.

[@cristibaluta]

I think in one month you'll not see any physical change in any, but Brad will get used to the effort and will ride much better even with his weight.

[@wexxexbest]

I’m actually thinking of buying a bike after this 🙈

[@philthewriter]

@@wexxexbest Get it done! Must be one heck of a competitive element to getting to that size, few months of riding and bet you'd surprise quite a few of us skinny folk.

[@sarahjoseph962]

@Brad Parker you did awesome!! When you said "there's no more gears left" on the hill....I felt that!!!

[@mikeghanley]

As others have said fair play to Brad, seems a really nice guy and a good sport, also natural in front of the camera. More Brad videos please! Let’s see him transition into a track monster.

[@jochenkirn9468]

Such a wholesome video, I like genuine athletes comparing their strengths! Kudos to all for the great demonstration.

[@Mr.JeffreyEchala]

Bring out @CoachGreg to compete with your cyclists!💪

[@Parabellum198]

Absolutly no Luck for Coach Greg. Cycle need mental power and you need to be Light to climb.

[@scotthale7857]

​@@Parabellum198you need power to climb not weight

[@Parabellum198]

@@scotthale7857 Look at all best climber in the World. Light. Very light. No body top muscle

[@scotthale7857]

@@Parabellum198 yep being light weight gives a point uphill but if you're heavy you have the upper hand downhill. The bigger you are the more muscle power you need to insert.

[@Parabellum198]

@@scotthale7857 Clear.. Sad for me..

[@nathanlawson2523]

More of this type of content for sure. Very interesting to compare the two disciplines in such a manner.

[@gcn]

Thanks very much - what would shall we do next? 🤔

[@Flameb0]

@@gcn how about runner vs cyclist? that would be much more competitive

[@matthewmontgomerie7302]

"There aren't any more gears!" We've all been there Brad :)

[@yeahbuddy4712]

The next gear is pushing!

[@wexxexbest]

😅

[@TikeMyson69]

It's a rather disappointing situation to be in. Cycling or body building.

[@fidru]

anyone else still trying to shift into a smaller gear even though you did it already three times on the climb? a bit like "maybe this time there is another gear" 💁‍♂️

[@yeahbuddy4712]

@@TikeMyson69 ha see what you did there..

[@Asce8888]

Only real test would be with Coach Greg @Greg Doucette!!

[@Asce8888]

Get the friggin cookbook!!!

[@pauljakeman]

Hank you did amazing, not exactly a small guy yourself, and Brad and Ollie absolutely awesome work too. Great video guys.

[@Logan-ro6ud]

Why to go brad! Very inspirational to see someone doing something out of their comfort zone.

[@dmitryesthetic]

We need Coach Greg 🔥

[@aasiossilanoja-mansikkavuo1580]

yes!

[@jevonyethman8045]

FOR REAL

[@andymckenzie5484]

You guys need to bring this this guy back for a few more videos. Actually it would be good to see you have more people with different body types riding and progressing. I can relate to Brad as a 130kg Clydesdale rider with loads of power of power on the flats but climbing is a challenge. It is funny watching to see how many of the smaller riders fight for my wheel on the flats.

[@SoundSpeeding]

You're great for drafting behind! I'm a bit lean (well, maybe "medium") but at 1.9m / 6'3" then I'm a great target for others to draft behind as well!

[@xbane0814]

Get Coach Greg here

[@danieldunstone6128]

@gregdoucette

[@Ja_ist_gut]

He rides a lot

[@Re1ikGaming]

Being a ex-bodybuilder and now a cyclist, I knew exactly what was going ro happen! LEG PUMP! His quads were on fire, and felt like they were going to explode! Good stuff!

[@broski1990]

Race Coach Greg next

[@MrScrumpy7]

You can convert quite quickly from muscle man to cyclist. My son was a power lifter and rugby player weighing around 97 kilos back in 2019. He took up Triathlon and achieved a sub ten and a half hour time in the 2022 Hamburg Ironman. He is still built like cage fighter, but has gained incredible endurance through cycling and running

[@ivanmatveyev13]

His knees will be done by the age of 38, its sad but true.

[@rusuionut2]

@@ivanmatveyev13why is that ?

[@ivanmatveyev13]

@@rusuionut2 you cant run if you are over 75, facts

[@andrevanderwalt69]

​@@ivanmatveyev13Nonsense, latest science says the opposite, knees improve with running

[@ivanmatveyev13]

@@andrevanderwalt69 hahahaha

[@thanhcongTDT]

Who is here to spam for Coach Greg to race with GCN ???

[@aasiossilanoja-mansikkavuo1580]

me

[@danieldunstone6128]

He deadset give them a run for there money thay big guys fast

[@Johnny-Utah-91]

Every time I see a massive guy at the gym I think "you can't beat me on a 5K or a mile run" Kudos to Brad for putting on the uniform and going for it. I'm sure he can appreciate the cardio side and apply it more to his bodybuilding.

[@smartnothard2400]

How amazing is humans are! One can’t open the jar and gets up the hill in three minutes and another can open jars by just looking at them but needs 11 minutes to climb the same hill!! Nature is so beautiful however training is the key lesson here as both cyclist and bodybuilder smashed it in their own field.

[@xeonome1]

We want to see Coach Gregg in a video with your cyclist, we want to see if Coach Gregg can you beat you all, not in a long mountain climb, but on a flat surface sprint!

[@bryanthorne3474]

If Brad is up for it, I'd love to see him train bike for 3 months with guidance from you guys, and come back to the same hill and see how much time he shaved off. Would be cool to see how adaptable the human body is.

[@millermark445]

With the right training, Brad would cut his time. But would he like the idea of dropping body weight? With bodybuilders, it's all about getting as massive as possible.

[@binarycolors1738]

​@@millermark445yo

[@95Geli]

Ollie has the perfect cycling physic with his aero arms!

[@JamesMartland65]

Love this! Respect is the word. Its how I feel towards the guys and obvious they have it for each other. Both, out of their niche, would develop insanely fast in the new discipline because they've got the mindset to win, learn and focus. Maybe that would be a good mini series? Watching them develop into a new sport over a few months, maybe even see how it affected their performance in their primary sport. Thanks all!

[@adolfosoto803]

We want to see Coach Greg Doucette in a video with your cyclist 🚴‍♀️💪

[@kevinuploadingwhatever]

Please do this against COACH GREG DOUCETTE. He is an ifbb pro bodybuilder and a dedicated cyclist. I think featuring Coach Greg would show a better result, as well as leave less misconceptions about bodybuilding and muscles in regards to cardiovascular health.

[@joshuapierre4820]

You should’ve chose COACH GREG!!!

[@ralphhaliburton-chaplin2920]

We want to see gcn vs coach Greg Doucette

[@loki4231]

Do a all-round cycling test, downhill, uphill and sprint against that guy will be fun... A track and field 400meters to 800meters runners would be a great challenge to 👌🏼

[@jirivrana3623]

Track field test dont really show how bodybuilding and cycling is different. Bodybuilder can made huge power output and can mope floor with any cyclist on short track and even longer dont really show different since he can just keep his output for while and aerodynamics dont really slow him ennogh. But hill is ultimate test its test how power and weight work agains other and how thingly cyclist with low weight can beet much more weighty oponent with bigger power output.

[@loki4231]

@@jirivrana3623 I don't want to see track and field to show how cycling and bodybuilding is different... we know it's different o want to see track and field athletes.. I know who hoogland and lavresein are to... I want to see it because it should be fun watching the great and funny personalitys of the gcn guys doing this challenge... This is entertainment not science to me at least

[@weaklight]

Support for Coach Greg

[@chrishey6891]

Would be interesting to see the power and weight differences between Brad and Ollie. So what w/kg they did. Also what power Brad needed to put out at his weight to match Ollie's w/kg.

[@joepiedepoepie1234]

He'd probably need a lot more w/kg as Pogacar when he went up the Planche de Belle Filles in 2020 :D

[@markm0000]

I’d bet Ollie is better since Brad has a ton of muscle mass that he is not using to put power down on the bike. Ollie is like a machine designed to do one thing.

[@m4yd0g]

A few years back, I switched from being a dedicated cyclist training 15 hours a week to cycling about 5 hours a week and intense strength training. Over a few years, I added 35 pounds of in season mass while keeping my FTP about the same. Regardless I am a lot slower and more uncomfortable on the bike, upper body muscle does very little for cycling, but I can fill out a jersey nicely.

[@dba1222]

"Fill out a jersey nicely" lmao gave me a good chuckle. Good for you man

[@Klunker1]

The only people that look good in a bike jersey are the ones that look like they good use a good meal.

[@colbyhillis447]

Yeah but the ladies are always looking at how we fill out our kits

[@dba1222]

@@colbyhillis447 I hear you bro

[@Klunker1]

Could use

[@ahmadalnaim490]

Coach Greg is challenging you💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

[@teufelhund53]

When i built up my legs quite a bit with old school leg exercises and barbell squats over a couple years i noticed during my long distance / high elevation gain cycling rides I started getting terrible quad cramps much sooner and easier. I think there was a correlation there. Bigger muscle mass in legs = more fuel / water / electrolytes / carbs / calories needed to sustain the "engine" in the quads. Most painful cramps of my life!

[@sepg5084]

Competitive cyclists do weight training on their legs too. Just weight training, not body building.

[@captnmaico6776]

Basic weight training is always good though!

[@gianibc]

same here. especially after I have increased the weight on my v-squat exercises the next cycle ride, which granted was mildly long but involved quite decent climbing, my quads experienced the worst cramps I ever experienced so far.

[@automotive474]

Isn't there a couple videos out there stating that training your slow twitch fibers and your fast twitch fibers without proper interval between the different sessions is counter productive? I don't know why but it seems the recovery of one type of fiber interferes with the other. Would be cool if a kind soul with spare time would find one of those videos for us.

[@wertyuiopasd6281]

​@@sepg5084Weight training is bodybuilding.

[@theodoros1126]

Ι αm a bodybuiler myself at 220lbs and started cycling 1 year ago . Im not brads size but not far off . I remember myself struggling like Brad but after 12.000klm and almost 90.000m elavation gain life is getting easier . I have achieved and FTP of 300 and a max sprint of 1815 . I know I will never catch my 60-65 kilo feather mates up the mountain BUT I have fallen in love with cycling . WHAT A SPORT ... and bear in mind I am 42 and have been weight training since 17 years old . Oh well ...

[@jaws8817]

I started cycling in May and went from 242 to 228 and I'm hooked. I'm also a distance runner (38 halfs, 13 full marathons) and nothing compares to cycling. My first century is next month and I can't wait. I'm still lifting but cycling is the breakthrough that I couldn't get anywhere else. And I'll be 45 in two weeks!

[@theodoros1126]

@@jaws8817 by century I assume you mean 100 miles or 160klm . I did my first brevet of 200 klm a few months ago . 2200m elevation in 8 hours . Now that was an adventure on its own

[@ToblerX]

Mad respect to Brad for putting himself out there. Climbing is difficult for anyone, let alone someone carrying so much mass.

[@zigahancman]

Get Coach Greg on this

[@jr688]

Get Coach Greg on! That's a more fair challenge with a body builder!!!

[@adityasantosh1382]

Coach Greg 😈😈😈😈

[@joebedingfield]

Just what I needed to cheer me up after finding a crack in my gravel bike frame this morning😭. Thanks GCN. Love this content. 😂

[@chbrosz]

Aww bummer hope it can be repaired 🤞🏼

[@chbrosz]

Aww bummer hope it can be repaired 🤞🏼

[@pauljakeman]

Hope it can be fixed buddy

[@emike5789]

If it is aluminium weld it as soon as possible. If is carbon , sorry man that 😞

[@100koochy100]

Greg Doucette has thrown down the gauntlet, he wants a race.

[@nichts_als_die_Wahrheit]

We want to see Coach Gregg in a video with your cyclist, we want to see if Coach Gregg can you beat you all, not in a long mountain climb, but perhaps for one minute!

[@tajulislam1522]

This is great content GCN, completey thinking outside the box. Well done James too, good entertainment and you genuinely have a great sense of humour just being you which sadly isn't shown when you do the clinical/orchestrated stuff.

[@Schuler789]

Why not choose COACH GREG?? He's a bodybuilder who actually cycles!!

[@stephankock2667]

Imagine he would smoke them

[@Mavors1099]

Because the idea is to put an average bodybuilder on test, the average bodybuilder does not cycle.

[@powerup9035]

@@Mavors1099 in what world is that average bodybuilder?

[@gmoddude12]

@@powerup9035 i think the point is just to take a body builder that is not known for regularily engage in cycling and see how he does on the excercise

[@OrionEJ]

Call out Coach Greg to the hill

[@speedpower2740]

As someone who's interested in both (my physique looks much closer to a cyclist to be fair 😂), I loved this video, would be great to see more on the topic of weightlifting and how to combine it with cycling

[@mouadtaha]

I think those muscles require so much oxygen very quickly, honestly I used to wonder why runners look like they're starving lol but I changed my mind after seeing how much they can achieve. As to having way bigger muscles I just don't like it, never saw the point, unless maybe you want to be a bodyguard...

[@tahmids4082]

@@mouadtaha well it's just addictive to say the least. Once you hit the gym and start seeing your muscles grow, it's hard to go back. And that's how you end up lifting for decades and get huge. But I get what you're trying to say tho

[@albr4]

if you start doing leg exercises your max power will increase almost within days. I started doing it myself. I gained around 100w and only did one 10 minute weightlifting workout per week at most, and I've been lifting 15kg less than my bodyweight, most people lift the same as their body weight at least.

[@better.better]

that's definitely part of it you could hear him wheezing almost instantly meanwhile Olle's breathing barely changed. the wattage output on the stationary though was pretty impressive. you could also see how much trouble he was having balancing on the bike and I think that inefficiency played a lot into it as well. I think he could improve a lot by increasing his VO2 max and control on the bike. still I think the sheer muscle mass will always keep him from being good at it like you say it just takes too much oxygen to keep all that going, Plus in terms of efficiency on a bike the only muscles you really use is your back and legs, and even that, I used to hike a lot as a teenager but as an adult I've done a lot more cycling, and if I have to walk to work because of a mechanical issue of the bike, it's very obvious that I haven't been hiking enough. you use those muscles in completely different ways and it becomes very specialized. I would have thought that my hiking wouldn't have been so out of shape considering I spend the day at work walking, but clearly it's not the same somehow.

[@malayneum]

@@albr4 tell us your routine.